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			<title><![CDATA[Re: A few questions about Pope Pius XIIs WW2 involvement]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Moralman wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Yet apparently the same Roman Catholic Church helped some Nazi&#039;s to escape after WW2............Contradiction yet again.</p></blockquote></div><p>Not really, considering that both the Nazi Party and the Roman Catholic Church are both creations of the Illuminati. The perceived division is simply a fabricated illusion.</p>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: A few questions about Pope Pius XIIs WW2 involvement]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Dear Neo<br />kind regards<br />Thank you for your comments.<br />My interpretation is that Pope Pius XII was in a difficult position.<br />Obviously he had to protect the interests of the Roman Catholic Church however I question the integrity of congratulating Hitler on his invasions and Francesco Franco during his Spanish civil war victories.<br />I can on the other hand compliment the quick thinking of the Pope for saving the lives of those who were being hunted by the Nazi&#039;s.<br />Yet apparently the same Roman Catholic Church helped some Nazi&#039;s to escape after WW2............Contradiction yet again.<br />Although Hitler himself proclaimed to be a Christian most of the Nazi&#039;s like Himmler, Goebbels and Bormann were not Christian.<br />Heinreich Himmler was very much into Paganism and practised it in a religious sense.<br />I have a very link about Hitlers affiliation(on a smaller or bigger level) with Christianity and the Roman Catholic Church.<br /><a href="http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm">http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm</a><br />It is a good link containing much information and goes into much depth on the subject on Hitlers and the other Nazi&#039;s views on Christendom.<br />yours thankfully<br />John</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: A few questions about Pope Pius XIIs WW2 involvement]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>From Wikipedia.com:</p><p>Pius XII&#039;s role during World War II has been a source of major controversy. What is universally agreed is that Pope Pius XII followed a policy of public neutrality during the Second World War mirroring that of Pope Benedict XV during the First World War. Pius&#039;s main argument for that policy was twofold. That public condemnation of Hitler and Nazism would have achieved little of practical benefit, given that his condemnation could effectively be censored and so unknown to German Catholics (who in any case had been told as early as the early 1930s by the German Roman Catholic hierarchy that Nazism and Catholicism were incompatible). Secondly, Pius argued that had he condemned Nazism more aggressively, the result would have been repression of Roman Catholicism within Nazi Germany, making low level work against Nazi policies at parish and diocese level difficult, in turn cutting off secret escape routes which were used by many Jews, Gypsies and homosexuals to escape deportation to Nazi extermination camps. Historians differ in their acceptance of these justification for Pope Pius XII&#039;s policies.</p><p>Adolf Hitler made the observation that &quot;[Pius] is the only human being who has always contradicted me and who has never obeyed me.&quot; Historians in general differ as to whether or not Pope Pius XII did enough to prevent the Holocaust and save lives, and indeed whether any intervention by him would have any impact on the number of deaths caused by Nazi policies.</p><p>Joseph Goebbels was clear about the Reich&#039;s attitudes toward the Roman Catholic Church. His 26 March 1942 entry into his diary reads, &quot;It&#039;s a dirty, low thing to do for the Catholic Church to continue its subversive activity in every way possible and now even to extend its propaganda to Protestant children evacuated from the regions threatened by air raids. Next to the Jews these politico-divines are about the most loathsome riffraff that we are still sheltering in the Reich. The time will come after the war for an over-all solution of this problem.&quot;</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2004 05:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[A few questions about Pope Pius XIIs WW2 involvement]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Dear Friends<br />kind regards<br />Pope Pius XII is the controversial wartime Pope of WW2 who reigned as a Pope from 1939 to 1958.<br />Here is a link about his career as the Pope.<br /><a href="http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/pope0260.htm">http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/pope0260.htm</a><br />However conflicting statements are made about him.<br />Some people say that he harboured jews and allowed them to escape from the Nazi persecuters and some sources say that he backed the Nazi&#039;s congratulating Hitler when he had conquered certain territories and countries.<br />Furthermore apparently Pope XII loathed soviet Russia and thus he would rather support what he might have consider the lesser evil of fascism.<br />I was once told be a friend of mine who is a WW2 researcher that Von Paupen asked Hitler if the Roman Catholic Church could be allowed into Russia.<br />The downfall of the Communist government in Russia could have been a triumph for the Roman Catholic Church as they could have won many converts.<br />I have a few questions.<br />1. Did Pope Pius XII support Nazi Germany and where is your evidence and proof?<br />2. What would have Pope Pius XII gained if he actually did back Hitler and the Nazi&#039;s won WW2?<br />3. Why didn&#039;t Pope XII excommunicate Hitler from the Roman Catholic Church?<br />Catholic priests in Nazi Germany did take a stand against Euthanasia and some of them were imprisoned as a result.<br />If you could kindly take time out of your busy schedules to answer these questions I&#039;d be so grateful.<br />yours thankfully<br />John</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2004 12:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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