If it is a trapping falsehood for you, it is only because you trapped yourself.  STS/STO is not meant to be absolutely polar.  There are obviously shades in between and infact nothing is purely STS/STO.  However it is necessary to have terms such as STS, STO, ORANGE, YELLOW to describe certain concepts.  Why is it you cant grasp this concept?  How can you ever talk to anyone without descriptors? 

How will you describe this particular shade of purple?  Will you say its two clicks right of red and three clicks left of blue?  If so, what's red and whats blue?  Geeeesh.

I agree with this part of what you said.

The new age like other bands of reality also runs largely on heresay which is used to shape false perceptions about reality. True believers are led along the garden path. Whenever a meme turns into a new age catch word and people start snapping to it, watch out. I have said this about the STS-STO notion which is a corrupted memetic and a trapping falsehood at best. Somewhere within some of the confines of language there is a way towards pure principle but the road is with curves.
The game is to create yet another dimensional trap that extends onto another timeline.
Fall back to the inner voice of " No I don't think so  " when in doubt.

You may as well save your breath...

NWD: In Breaking Open the Head you describe a DMT experience in which you meet a non-human, alien-like entity. DMT researcher Dr. Rick Strassman has stated that there are many overlaps and similarities between the DMT and alien abduction experiences. Any thoughts about the UFO and alien abduction phenomenons?

DP: DP: I don't think UFOs or the "grey aliens" who like to pop out of them are literal space travelers from another physical planet. I think the Greys are closer to goblins - infraterrestrial or subterrestrial entities, Ahrimanic, to use Steiner's term. Apparently in the Islamic tradition, they talk about "soulless entities" that are pre-Adamic, pre-human, and the "Greys" seem to fall into that category. Clearly, they have some function to perform - perhaps they are workers or mechanics who help to hold together quantum reality. In many of the abduction accounts, humans are brought to play with the alien or "hybrid human alien" children, who don't speak and are quite lethargic. Like our children, the Grey children use toys or blocks - but where our blocks show different words and colors when turned, the Greys' blocks emit different emotions when they are turned. The Greys are telepathic so they do not have to convey concepts to each other, but they are trying - pathetically and rather desperately - to learn how to feel, and they cannot manage this. It seems that they need the emotions - especially fear - emitted by the human energy body in order to sustain themselves. They recognize their lack of souls, and they suffer for it - if you can accept the paradox of an entity without emotion suffering. I see the Greys as a kind of bacteriological agent operating on the level of consciousness. Their purpose may be to filter out denser levels of consciousness that cannot make it through the transition.

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Here is the whole interview:
http://www.newworlddisorder.ca/issuethr … hbeck.html

Bolded sentences and words my own emphasis.

Go Stuie, go Stuie, go Stuie....!  Bangle power!    haha

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UFO Update

Stuart Wilde

December 23rd, 2005
 
   

To tell the UFO update I have to back track to 2001 and pick up the story from there.

In August 2001, I got into a fight with a group of UFOs over a small Spanish town in the north called Tudella. The Morph phenomena lit up the UFOs in the sky so I could see them easily. Some were brown blobs and others looked like flying oil barrels and then there were five or six that were the classic saucer shape. At that time, I had been given two etheric wrist bangles about four inches wide. They came out of the Morph in some way I will never know. They shone with a celestial light and I found that if I dropped my hands to my side they went through a double beat, like a silent clunk, clunk, and they loaded.

Then if I flicked my wrist, the bangle would fly off toward the UFOs in a curved trajectory, across the sky as if guided. It looked like a flying triangle while in motion. Now I know it might sound nuts but trust me, I would never tell you any fibs.

UFOs are etheric beings that can shape-shift–they are not solid. When the silver bangle hit them they shuddered and fell to a lower trajectory. There they wobbled like Jell-O on a plate and then they fell to an even lower altitude.   Only the bangle on my left hand moved; the other one stayed stationary all the time. The bangles never missed. After a few UFOs had fallen from the sky, they figured out what was happening and they fled at high speed only to return a week later gang-handed over a French town near Cannes, called La Napoule.

There were a hundred or more in the battle over La Napoule. The skirmish lasted eight hours. The bangle went off fifty times at least, but there were too many in the sky to get them all, and the brown-blob UFOs fly very much faster than the saucer-shaped ones. The UFOs can fire a pulse that really hurts and so when you are in open ground, bangle or not, you have to be bloody careful. After several hours I was hungry so I called out to them (they can hear your mind) something like, “Rule 33B, no fighting in the lunch hour.”  I then withdrew to a charming little café for a bite to eat. UFOs are completely stupid, anal. Rule 33B would have thrown them into utter confusion. After lunch the fight lasted for several more hours until about four o'clock. Coincidentally that night, the town of La Napoule had a firework display celebrating something or other, and so I told the UFOs it was the humans celebrating the fact the UFOs lost the battle. It's funny what you can get away with in the heat of the moment.

In 2003 I was in Denver for a week waiting to go to Mexico. I wanted to take on the UFOs over mount Popocatepetl just south of Mexico City. While in Denver, I got a strong feeling to stay in my room so I didn't go out all week but on the last night I decided to go for a walk, and as I came out of the hotel from under the portico, I saw a UFO in the distance about five hundred yards away. When it saw me it instantly started to fly in my direction. So I dropped my hands to load the bangles and absolutely nothing happened, blank-nada-nuffin' . I spooked and I ducked back into the hotel double-quick. And I never did find the UFOs at Popopcatepetl; they were hiding.

Naturally I wondered what happened to the bangles and this year I was watching the Morph one day and I asked about them and I was shown three silver bangles around the northern hemisphere.  The first was quite high up not far down from the North Pole, the next one was about the latitude of northern Europe and the third one was only half way round the earth and it was on a latitude of Washington say. I realized the UFOs were being beaten out of the northern part of the world and that they would have to move south, which is why there has been a spate of UFO flotillas sighted in Central and South America. But in the end, they will get beaten out of the southern hemisphere as well but for some reason the process began in the north. So we don't need the bangles, they are all around us, in the north anyway.

The UFOs talk to people's minds and drive them toward the demonic. They capture people by enticing them into the mystery, which is why the UFOs fly in a peek-a-boo way, you see them then you don't.  It's all to do with selling you the idea of technologically advanced space civilizations. Advanced? Not exactly, the UFOs couldn't organize a piss up in brewery! But they are lethal as they control a vast swathe of the human mind, and they drive humans toward war and mayhem.

Once they start to entrap you, the buggy-eyed Grays will show up in your bedroom and then they will take you etherically and make you theirs, especially if you are a power trip person that likes the idea of being aligned to a supposedly superior force.   We have no technology for rescuing people from abduction.  But we do know one thing and that is if you take a DMT substance like yopo or ayahuasca say, the UFOs lose you for the length of time that you are on the DMT journey. It drives them nuts because it represents a loss of control to them. We have been shown that but we have not learned how to rescue a person while they are out from under the UFOs surveillance.   It could well be that once the silver bangles form all the way around the earth, maybe in the next year or two, then all those humans that have been mentally or etherically abducted that were carried away, will be released and set free. 

To stay safe you need just to ignore them and ridicule them and keep yourself away. Once they know you are not interested or influenced, they float off to find others instead.    Many UFO researchers die young of mysterious diseases that come on very fast that are not curable. Most of the UFOs are fairly hopeless but there are ones that have a pulse that they fire that is rather deadly.
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I love it.      Thank you Stuie for contradicting all that New Age mumbo jumbo about our "enlightened space breathren who are here to save the planet and rescue us from ourselves!  Love n light!  Love n light!  The Grays are us in the future!!!!"   

Just turn your backs on them and reject it, is what we need to be doing.

visavis wrote:

They - the negative ones - don't really have a power over us if we really don't let them.

Visavis,

I think you hit upon an essential truth there.

They [negative ones] don't really have power over us if we really don't let them.

Doesn't that also apply to the aliens everyone's discussing in this thread? Or are certain aliens somehow above/beyond or exempt from this?

As I mentioned earlier, I don't know from aliens. Still, I'm not following the logic.

Confused,

We 3D dwellers have knowledge and logic we can rely on, and these cannot be violated by anyone regardless of density.  (I guess that's why in the Old Testament we read of people demanding things of God and getting their way.)  We can rely on the truth we observe, because truth is truth and there's nothing a lizard or a gray can do about it.  A cheesy used-car salesman is a cheesy used-car salesman, even if its clunkers were manufactured in 4D.

... i even read once, what u can say and what ur supposed to do when in contact.  i have also read that reptilian aliens can't make a shhhissss hissing sound and that's what u can use to discern.  that's very interesting...a reptilian that can't hiss, no snake sounds can be produced.  wow.  it's a test i have read.  there used to be a neat reptilian forum that john somebody created for awile but it went off line i think.  montalk probably can rmemeber.  was it john coates or similar?  disinfo?  if there's a question of trust--It's NO GOOD IMHO.   z

A shibboleth, eh?  The same story is in the Old Testament.

Light!   Liiiight!!  LIIIIIIIIIIIIGHHHHHHHHHHT!

Don't forget the loooovvvee!  If only I could love enough I would appreciate probes being stuck in tight places. . .

Light and love. . love and light. .

lyra wrote:

I don't participate in any sort of organized groups, period.

Lyra are you suggesting that Noble Realms is an unorganised group?

ha!  You got me!     I meant in the sense of like, religion and what not.   Anything with the word "church" or "center" attached to it.

But a forum is a group, and it is kind of organized when you think about it.  Guess it's the exception! 

I don't participate in any sort of organized groups, period.

Lyra are you suggesting that Noble Realms is an unorganised group?

a place (metaphysical church in the OC--u probably know of it lyra, the Learning Light Center)

Actually, I don't.  I wasn't into going to New Agey Metaphysical centers, churches, and such.  I don't participate in any sort of organized groups, period.  I'm a lone bird in life.    At best, there was a shop I went to called Awakenings, in Laguna Hills.  I'd go there, but even then, I didn't participate in their groups and activities and such that took place in the adjacent suite next to the shop.  New Age groups scare me, to be honest.   In thinking about what specifically "scares me", or turns me off about them, it's several things.   When they dress the part, wearing flowing robe outfits and such;  When they adopt new age names, like Morgana Dream Weaver, or Ashawaynana Thunder Crystal, or Aragon of the Violet Flame of Saint Germaine, or whatever they call themselves;  the way that every other word out of their mouth, or in written form is "light."    Light!   Liiiight!!  LIIIIIIIIIIIIGHHHHHHHHHHT!

It's scary man.  I run the other way!   And it all seems so contrived.  Like they're playing a role, a character.  It's an identity to latch onto.  It's not real.

Humans do not have the ability to control what can and can't come through an "open door."    So until we can............keep that door closed.   And don't make any apologies for it.   And don't feel guilty.  Trust me, the real "good guys" understand.

To me the above sentences summarize my attitude towards any kind of aliens.  I rather resist and fight than submit and obey to later find myself on somebody's plate or leash.  If I am wrong I will apologize later!  Every so often I stop, re-evaluate my position, take what I consider a learning experience and discard the rest.  It may be the long road in terms of learning & interacting with aliens but to me it seems to be the safer route.  Others may approach it differently and I respect their choice even though I may consider it naive.