Noble Realms — Thoughts on US GI's refusing mission

Re: Thoughts on US GI's refusing mission

null@example.com (Auendove) — Thu, 28 Oct 2004 23:30:38 +0000

Tom Paine,

You're welcome!

Yeah, this story did catch my eye. I first saw it on the news on the 18th.

Re: Thoughts on US GI's refusing mission

null@example.com (Tom Paine) — Thu, 28 Oct 2004 23:13:22 +0000

Forgot my manners.
Thank you Auendove for the links!
You must've been following this story
quite closely. They're already spinning
this into obfuscation to where the
average OP will just shrug and go
watch the game on TV.

Re: Thoughts on US GI's refusing mission

null@example.com (Tom Paine) — Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:20:58 +0000

Shades of Vietnam.
I wouldn't be surprised if some of these
gung-ho lifer officers and nco's get
'fragged' by an 'enemy' grenade.
But of course that doesn't stop the
war machine. Now that the US has
managed to alienate the entire world
(except for our corrupt cronies) we
can pretty much expect the same.
Why the hell did I ever volunteer to
play in the mud again this lifetime.
(rhetorical question)

Re: Thoughts on US GI's refusing mission

null@example.com (Auendove) — Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:30:44 +0000

Here's some info about what happened.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl? … 18/1438232

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/ … 9727.shtml

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/10/22/invest … milies.ap/

This next site has a number of stories, you only need to scroll down a bit to find them between 10/18-10/21

http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=7337

From http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/102204B.shtml --

The recent refusal of at least 18 soldiers in the 343rd Quartermaster Company to go on a perilous mission in Iraq has created a torrent of competing allegations of mutiny and military incompetence. With an election approaching, the Bush administration is now desperately seeking to defuse the controversy....
Bush officials are now trying to defuse the controversy by emphasizing in interviews such phrases as a "confused situation" and "temporary breakdown." What was a technical mutiny may be downgraded in the interest of politics to a misunderstanding. As in many past mutinies, we seem to be moving toward a symbolic gesture of discipline.

One report says two of the 18 might be selected for punishment to satisfy appearances. It is a result that Crassus would love; two out of 18 is just about right for a good old-fashioned Roman decimation.

Re: Thoughts on US GI's refusing mission

null@example.com (SednaSphere) — Thu, 28 Oct 2004 06:55:54 +0000

That's bizarre. It's a wonder that never ceases, the stange circumlocutions taken in this war by TPTB. It has me scratching my head, but no doubt they had, as you say, their reasons, and some of them must have to do with manipulations of timelines and events. That must get complicated for them, and take alot of negative "chaos magic."

Thoughts on US GI's refusing mission

null@example.com (Tom Paine) — Thu, 28 Oct 2004 03:13:25 +0000

There was a story in the last few days about some
US GI's refusing to go on a dangerous mission
in Iraq. Seems they were to deliver fuel in unarmored
vehicles. Their Commanding Officer was relieved of
duty. Isn't that curious? Maybe these women were
supposed to be sacrificial lambs and get blown up
with their fuel vehicles or maybe even kidnapped.
But their Commanding Officer listened to reason and
realized that he/she couldn't in good conscience
send them out there unarmored. Can't have soldiers
THINKING now can we? Can't have a Commanding
Officer who won't force soldiers to follow orders, can we?

I haven't been able to follow up on this story to see
what the final resolution was, but it's always interesting
if not maddening to see how TPTB put their own
spin on things.