I've also studied Joseph Campbell as well, in a college course.

As I said before, whenever we're all ready to go...

This indeed it will accomplish. The other discussions on Feminism are as well important, but this coming conversing will serve to hone in on what women's native nature is all about, that being everything we were born to be, before we were told what we should be.

Personally, I really like being a "wild thing" much better than being domesticated , I have much more of a respect for myself as a wild one.

I came across this book about a decade ago and it resonated with me very much. I liked the work of Joseph Cambell at the time nd then I discovered Clarissa. Unfortunately in my enthusiasm to share the book, I lent it to a friend, and that was the last I saw of it.

So I'll have to go get another copy soon, but it'll have to wait till payday as my budget is ultra tight, and I have an aversion to using credit cards at the moment.

Thanks for kick-starting the subject Auendove. I think it will give us a much broader perspective on women and the feminine then the discussion on Feminism could. At least I hope so, as the references are so archetypal and universal.

mimi

Great!, but please don't rush to get a copy like your hair's on fire just because of me. I'm just coming into the last 100 pgs. of S. King's Dreamcatcher (ye gads! what a "story"), and there is another book a friend just snail-mailed to me that I need to return, but that'll take me no time to gobble up... heeheehee, I can hardly wait to get through Dreamcatcher just so I can read the one my friend sent me.

After that, in a few days or so, I'm good to go, and I'm very much looking forward to the meaningful conversing that will surely ensue.

Let me know when youse guys are good to go too.

Nope, haven't heard of it.

Here's the synopsis on the back cover of the book--

I was also considering that some may spend long periods of time in their cars commuting, and as well may not have the time to read a book, but maybe there's time to listen to the text? The book is available on disc and tape--

Book--

http://www.booksamillion.com/ncom/books … 0345409876

Compact disc--

http://www.booksamillion.com/ncom/books … 1564558452

Audio cassette--

http://www.booksamillion.com/ncom/books … 1564550826

I don't ever recall bringing up the book to the zen master. I was reading alot of books back then! We read a book called "The Kin of Atta Are Waiting For You" first, then a bunch of others. Ever heard of it? Just curious!

...well thank you for introducing me to this writer, and I when I am out tomorrow I will be purchasing her book. its amazing, how I feel as if there is an anergy of souls, and that I have connected with where I should be connected...if that makes any sense..:-)

You are welcome, but it's my pleasure to know yet another person is turned onto Clarissa Pinkola Estes. Tell us what you think about her work while you're reading it, okay? Women Who Run With the Wolves is one of those volumes that has real life applications from an "etheric psychology" (archetypal energy) viewpoint, and yet there isn't a whiff one of New Age preachiness without substance to preach from. As you can tell from her above message, she's REAL and enriching!

And ms. mermaidlinn?... it makes perfect sense to me. Welcome to the forum mer.

BTW--your reference to "woodsy mountains, ca" makes me long to visit Hatches Woods, an ancient Redwood forest off the PCH between Half Moon Bay and Pescadero. I wouldn't call too many places "magical", but Hatches Woods I will.

I still have my copy, we could read along with mermaidlinn and have ourselves a discussion about the material. Do you have the time?

If you had discussed Estes' book with a zen master I would've liked to have been a fly on that wall! Talk about a "class in session" conversation.

I've seen and felt more and more of it more strongly the past few months, especially the past few weeks... I find great comfort in this, especially given there may come a time when we don't have modalities like the internet and telephones to communicate. We may loose these modalities as they are outside our person's, but what we've "hot-wired" otherwise is ours to keep!

Tah-dah!

EDIT--Well, actually not so "tah-dah", the tah-dah moment will come when a group of people, being invested in one another, can experience sycnh-connectivity at will, and not willy-nilly. With you, as well as others (NR members and not), we are now being shown how great the possiblity is through alike freqencies to connect with one another with meaning.

Really, I think this is quite the boon for energy workers to see this manifesting. I think it's an awesome indicator that we are growing as we've hoped we would... we?, it's okay to include y'all in my knowing?

Then you post this, by Clarissa Estes.   I've also had a pronounced ear ringing 10 minutes ago, while you were probably typing this and some other synchs over the past few days.  Strange!

Message: 6
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:06:36 -0500
From: "Planet Waves Moderator" <moderator@planetwaves.net>
Subject: calm in the storm...

Inspiration
by Clarissa Pinkola Estes
http://www.veteransforpeace.org/We_are_ … 041503.htm

My friends, do not lose heart. We were made for these times. I have
heard from so many recently who are deeply and properly bewildered. They
are concerned about the state of affairs in our world right now.

Ours is a time of almost daily astonishment and often righteous rage
over the latest degradations of what matters most to civilized,
visionary people.

You are right in your assessments. The lustre and hubris some have
aspired to while endorsing acts so heinous against children, elders,
everyday people, the poor, the unguarded, the helpless, is breathtaking.
Yet, I urge you, ask you, gentle you, to please not spend your spirit
dry by bewailing these difficult times. Especially do not lose hope.
Most particularly because, the fact is that we were made for these
times.

Yes. For years, we have been learning, practicing, been in training
for and just waiting to meet on this exact plain of engagement...

I grew up on the Great Lakes and recognize a seaworthy vessel when I see
one. Regarding awakened souls, there have never been more able vessels
in the waters than there are right now across the world. And they are
fully provisioned and able to signal one another as never before in the
history of humankind... Look out over the prow; there are millions of
boats of righteous souls on the waters with you. Even though your
veneers may shiver from every wave in this stormy world, I assure you
that the long timbers composing your prow and rudder come from a greater
forest. That long-grained lumber is known to withstand storms, to hold
together, to hold its own, and to advance, regardless.

In any dark time, there is a tendency to veer toward fainting over how
much is wrong or unmended in the world. Do not focus on that. There is a
tendency too to fall into being weakened by dwelling on what is outside
your reach, by what cannot yet be. Do not focus there. That is spending
the wind without raising the sails. We are needed, that is all we can
know. And though we meet resistance, we more so will meet great souls
who will hail us, love us and guide us, and we will know them when they
appear. Didn't you say you were a believer? Didn't you say you pledged
to listen to a voice greater? Didn't you ask for grace? Don't you
remember that to be in grace means to submit to the voice greater?...

Ours is not the task of fixing the entire world all at once,
but of stretching out to mend the part of the world that is within our
reach.

Any small, calm thing that one soul can do to help another soul, to
assist some portion of this poor suffering world, will help immensely.
It is not given to us to know which acts or by whom, will cause the
critical mass to tip toward an enduring good. What is needed for
dramatic change is an accumulation of acts, adding, adding to, adding
more, continuing.

We know that it does not take "everyone on Earth" to bring justice and
peace, but only a small, determined group who will not give up during
the first, second, or hundredth gale.

One of the most calming and powerful actions you can do to intervene in
a stormy world is to stand up and show your soul. Soul on deck shines
like gold in dark times. The light of the soul throws sparks, can send
up flares, builds signal fires, causes proper matters to catch fire. To
display the lantern of soul in shadowy times like these - to be fierce
and to show mercy toward others, both, are acts of immense bravery and
greatest necessity.

Struggling souls catch light from other souls who are fully lit and
willing to show it. If you would help to calm the tumult, this is one of
the strongest things you can do.

There will always be times when you feel discouraged. I too have felt
despair many times in my life, but I do not keep a chair for it; I will
not entertain it. It is not allowed to eat from my plate. The reason is
this: In my uttermost bones I know something, as do you. It is that
there can be no despair when you remember why you came to Earth, who you
serve, and who sent you here. The good words we say and the good deeds
we do are not ours: They are the words and deeds of the One who brought
us here. In that spirit, I hope you will write this on your wall:

When a great ship is in harbor and moored, it is safe, there can be no
doubt. But that is not what great ships are built for.

This comes with much love and a prayer that you remember who you came
from, and why you came to this beautiful, needful Earth.

Clarissa Pinkola Estes, Ph.D
Author of the best seller Women Who Run with the Wolves ++

It is not enough to be compassionate; you must act.
-- The Dalai Lama

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