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			<title><![CDATA[Re: MatrixV Val Valerian]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>There are two more books after The Quest of the Spirit-The Ultimate<br />Frontier. The Graduation Key and the third in the series is The Journey<br />which is available in September.</p><p>I read the first book and thought it was ok except for the rants on women.<br />My opinion is... if you are a more advanced spirit, physical sex or what<br />gender you are is not important, it&#039;s more about understanding<br />the Higher Self and your reason for being here in 3d. You then look at others and think...that&#039;s me but in a different time frequency...I was like that once. You become more and more STO and see STS for what it is. You <br />end up a blend of both STO and STS.<br />Hey...it&#039;s all food for thought... matching experience with<br />what you have read and what rings true for you.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=7104#p7104</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>well i guess one of the major differences is frequency, one from a higher density or higher frequency must down step ones energy and matter to a lower vibration to withold a physical state.<br />In David Ickes work I think it is discussed that they need to consume human blood and perform rituals that give them the 3d energy that is required to shapeshift.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: MatrixV Val Valerian]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=7097#p7097</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Neomatrix wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><a href="http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/valerian.htm">http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/valerian.htm</a></p></blockquote></div><p>(F) They can shape-shift, but only for a limited period of time. <br />(L) Because it takes 3rd density energy to do that.</p><p>Could someone who is familiar help me with this? My question is what, specifically, would be the difference between 3rd density energy and that of other densities? Concentration? Location?</p><p>I&#039;ve read interpretations of the dimensions and densities, but many vary by a degree ranging from subtle to substantial.</p><p>New thread is located here -</p><p><a href="http://montalk.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=7095#7095">http://montalk.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=7095#7095</a></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Xenopope)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=7093#p7093</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>well, firstly anyone who anonymously writes books while hiding behind a psuedonym should be closely scrutinized.</p><p>sorry, never read any of these volumes but they just dont sound right to me at all.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Xenopope wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Maybe _someone_ found out how injurious the Matrix volumes were to to the control system and decided to _replace_ Valerian with a reptoid or other clearly different being.&nbsp; Maybe _they_ completely infiltrated LEIRG and turned its focus towards another adjenda. That would explain the difference in content between previous Matrix volumes and the fifth installation.</p></blockquote></div><p>Nah, the Matrix volumes are merely a part of the control system, but operating at a higher level. People often think that just because someone is talking about higher levels of consciousness, and how the governments of the world are corrupt and screwing us over, and about aliens on Earth, etc, etc, that they are obviously to be trusted and that they are on &quot;our side&quot;. Not so. The MCS works at MANY levels, especially within the New Age and related movements. Misdirection and obfuscation are the order of the day.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Neomatrix)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 01:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>11:11matrix wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If you dont mind me asking what did these people who knew the author say?</p></blockquote></div><p>That the author&#039;s name is Glen and that he lives in New Jersey.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 01:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Maybe _someone_ found out how injurious the Matrix volumes were to to the control system and decided to _replace_ Valerian with a reptoid or other clearly different being.&nbsp; Maybe _they_ completely infiltrated LEIRG and turned its focus towards another adjenda. That would explain the difference in content between previous Matrix volumes and the fifth installation.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>[quote=And as for Val being the Author, I am pretty sure that this is not the case due to having previous communications with people who know who the Author is</p><br /><p>If you dont mind me asking what did these people who knew the author say?<br />Its funny because i have wrote to Val befor on various subjects and recieved the same sarcastic harsh replys, but did recieve a reply once where he said I was more advanced than he previously stated..........I valuble information within everything the unverse puts infront of me as for Val you must ignor his impatient personality and take what usefull information you can. It was accually reading Val&#039;s Matrix IV&nbsp; when i was 12 that got me jump started into finding what the truth to reality is................and eventually who we really are<br />thank you and Aloha</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I&#039;m glad I never shelled out $60 for Matrix V when I was considering it a few months back. Thanks for posting this Neo. Valerian seems to have some seriously negative intent, whether it&#039;s misinformation or outright disinformation. I can&#039;t believe someone who talks about suspending notions of the body would have such a huge ego, which tells me he has trouble practicing what he preaches.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Okay, here&#039;s something else for you all. A brief email conversation between myself and Duncan Roads, the editor of NEXUS magazine. They had done a review on Matrix V.</p><p>_________________________________________________________________ </p><p>Hello, </p><p>I believe that in an earlier issue of your NEXUS magazine you reviewed&nbsp; the Matrix V Gold Edition material, published by Val Valerian&#039;s Leading&nbsp; Edge Research. I had not been familiar with your magazine until now,&nbsp; and I was interested in what your conclusions were about this material?&nbsp; I have tried on numerous occasions in the past to e-mail the anonymous&nbsp; author of this material with questions I had about some paradoxical&nbsp; statements that they made. For example, whilst apparently advocating&nbsp; that the body and its gender are both material illusions that we need&nbsp; to move beyond in order to evolve spiritually, they also state&nbsp; elsewhere on their website that heterosexual sex is spiritually&nbsp; abhorent. The author is also very dismissive of women, frequently&nbsp; referring to them as &quot;bitches&quot; and &quot;cunts&quot;. After receiving some very&nbsp; hostile and judgemental responses to my simple questions, my e-mail&nbsp; accounts were blocked from further communication. Finally, after our&nbsp; latest exchange, the Post Publication Segments and Q&amp;A sections on the&nbsp; M5G website have been closed off to non-M5G owners. I had been&nbsp; reviewing the material on the website in order to decide whether it&nbsp; would be worth ponying up the $60+ to buy this book; obviously the&nbsp; author doesn&#039;t understand that calling people who are interested in purchasing your material a &quot;Whore-Ass&quot; isn&#039;t good salesmanship! On the&nbsp; new gateway page for access to the post publication segments, the&nbsp; following statement now appears: &quot;Observing over time, we have noticed&nbsp; a few frustrated detractors out there, but without exception, every one&nbsp; of them has not actually read the book - they react to material they do&nbsp; not comprehend and come up with ludicrous conclusions. Just like the&nbsp; bimbo at Nexus magazine. Dumb as a bag of hammers.&quot; This is what led me&nbsp; to your magazine, and why I would be interested in what your&nbsp; conclusions were. </p><p>Thanks, Jason</p><p>_________________________________________________________________ </p><br /><p>Dear Jason, <br />Your email made me smile.&nbsp; I knew that somewhere out there, there had&nbsp; to be intelligent life <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> </p><p>I have a policy of NOT reviewing books I don&#039;t like.&nbsp; I would rather&nbsp; not waste space with a negative on someone&#039;s work, but would rather&nbsp; publish a positive on someone else&#039;s. <br />But with Val&#039;s case I made an exception, purely because I promised I&nbsp; would publish a review if he sent me a free copy (which he did). <br />The reviewer, Ruth Parnell, and I both were disappointed with the book.&nbsp; &nbsp;His previous research compilations were interesting, and left one able&nbsp; to draw many conclusions.&nbsp; But this one - I think he has gone over the&nbsp; top with his personal issues etc. </p><p>Below is a copy of the review, which appeared in NEXUS, volume 8,&nbsp; number 5 (Aug-Sept 2001).&nbsp; We were pretty light on him considering, but&nbsp; he hit the roof.&nbsp; Only a couple of weeks ago he sent me a 30+ page of&nbsp; positive responses (mostly from men I notice) with the intent of&nbsp; rubbing my nose in the majority of public opinion. </p><p>Anyway, I find I share most of your observations about the book, as&nbsp; should any reasonable person. </p><p>best wishes </p><p>Duncan </p><p>_________________________________________________________________ </p><br /><p>MATRIX V:&nbsp; Quest of the Spirit – The Ultimate Frontier <br />by Val Valerian <br />Leading Edge Research Group, USA, 2001 <br />ISBN n/a (550pp velo-bound) <br />Price:&nbsp; US$59.99 postpaid in USA; US$74.95 postpaid to Canada, Mexico;&nbsp; US$89.95 postpaid elsewhere <br />Distributor:&nbsp; USA–Leading Edge International Research Group, PO Box&nbsp; 2370, Yelm, WA 98597, email val_@&nbsp; &nbsp; trufax.org, website <a href="http://www.trufax.org">www.trufax.org</a> <br />Frontier researcher Val Valerian suggested I allocate two weeks to&nbsp; review this latest volume in the Leading Edge Matrix series, but I&#039;m&nbsp; lucky if I&#039;ve got two hours to take in and describe the expanse of&nbsp; content in Matrix V:&nbsp; Quest of the Spirit – the Ultimate Frontier.&nbsp; He&nbsp; also suggested I suspend all notions of &quot;body and gender identification&nbsp; beliefs&quot; while I read it.&nbsp; That&#039;s easier said than done, even for&nbsp; someone of a paradigm-busting mentality, as some of the material on&nbsp; sexuality seems to smack of &quot;spiritual sexism&quot;, to coin a new term.&nbsp; By&nbsp; the reasoning of the author (and I&#039;m not sure if it is Valerian), few&nbsp; women can consider themselves on their &quot;final incarnation&quot; in&nbsp; third-density reality because they do not have the &quot;unlimited creative&nbsp; ability&quot; of men! <br />This book (it&#039;s velo-bound, so it&#039;s more a collection of papers) is&nbsp; meant to guide us towards the ultimate frontier, accessible via the&nbsp; Higher Self.&nbsp; However, the author seems to see some overriding ancient&nbsp; Orion agenda inhibiting women&#039;s ability to connect properly with their&nbsp; Higher Self.&nbsp; Thinking readers who have ever contemplated and&nbsp; actualised their higher spiritual nature will be somewhat aghast at&nbsp; some of these stances. <br />While acknowledging a debt to out-of-body pioneer Robert Monroe, Matrix&nbsp; V claims to present material to take us to territory beyond what Monroe&nbsp; even dared to describe.&nbsp; On principle, I&#039;m wary of a book introduced as&nbsp; &quot;the only book that exists on the planet right now that has this high&nbsp; level of information&quot;, but I&#039;ll leave readers to judge for themselves.&nbsp; &nbsp;No doubt fans of this series will want to continue the journey started&nbsp; with the first Matrix in 1988 and bury themselves in this one for weeks&nbsp; on end; they&#039;ll also welcome the reprint of the complete Handbook for&nbsp; the New Paradigm. </p><p>_________________________________________________________________ </p><br /><p>Duncan M. Roads,&nbsp; Editor, NEXUS Magazine <br />PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia. <br />Tel:&nbsp; 07 5442 9280;&nbsp; Fax:&nbsp; 07 5442 9381 <br /><a href="http://www.nexusmagazine.com">http://www.nexusmagazine.com</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Xenopope wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Yes I have read the book. At the time I think I understood the meaning behind what he was saying about heterosexuality being &#039;abhorrent&#039;. I thought the point was that harmonius existence in physical bodies was tainted by the division of the sexes. He may have also cited the way heterosexuality was initially recieved in the community (comparable to the way homosexuality is recieved in ours).</p></blockquote></div><p>Well, think about it for a moment. Don&#039;t you find it just a little bit BIZARRE that they sell this book to you with the party line of &quot;If you identity with your physical body or your gender you are not ready for this material,&quot; then turn around and say that heterosexuality is spiritually abhorent? Ummmn, okay. But, isn&#039;t that body/gender ID?</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Xenopope wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>In any event there is something awry about the author especially after hearing about the way he responded to both you and montalk.</p></blockquote></div><p>When I asked the Author about this whole heterosexuality being &quot;bad&quot; deal, he responded to say that I was merely not ready for the Matrix V materials and that I was obviously an &quot;incarnational wannabe&quot; and to stick with material at my own &quot;level&quot;. I replied to ask him how he could even pretend to make such an arrogant assumption about me. He replied to call me a &quot;Whore-ass&quot; and told me that I was now blocked from further communication. Go figure.</p><p>I was also running a Matrix V discussion forum on Yahoo! groups, but after Valerian and his stooges had it shut down three times I gave up. Makes you wonder what they are so afraid of?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome 11:11. Your user name is my street address without the colon.</p><p>Yes I have read the book. At the time I think I understood the meaning behind what he was saying about heterosexuality being &#039;abhorrent&#039;. I thought the point was that harmonius existence in physical bodies was tainted by the division of the sexes. He may have also cited the way heterosexuality was initially recieved in the community (comparable to the way homosexuality is recieved in ours).</p><p>In any event there is something awry about the author especially after hearing about the way he responded to both you and montalk.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Neomatrix wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>He and John Lear admittedly fabricated the KRLL story, about an alien living on Earth. I don&#039;t know about his connections to LKJ, but she&#039;s another link in the disinformation chain as far as I am concerned.</p></blockquote></div><p>KRLL story? LKJ? please specify. ahh. I see KRLL referenced in the C link.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, the Matrix V material is a mixture of useful information ripped off from other sources (David Icke, Robert Monroe) along with an unhealthy dose of disinformation crappola. I have attempted to communicate with the Author to question him about some of his more extreme statements (i.e. &quot;heterosexuality is spirituality abhorent&quot;) but he responded with only rudeness and colorful insults. After a little digging around on the Internet, it seems that Valdemar Valerian is really a guy named John Grace who was a captain in the US Airforce, specifically the Intelligence (hah!) Division, and may have connections to the CIA and--perhaps--MJ12. He and John Lear admittedly fabricated the KRLL story, about an alien living on Earth. I don&#039;t know about his connections to LKJ, but she&#039;s another link in the disinformation chain as far as I am concerned. And as for Val being the Author, I am pretty sure that this is not the case due to having previous communications with people who know who the Author is. If you choose to read the information contained in any of the books produced by LEIRG, be sure to have your bullshit detectors on full alert: you&#039;ll need them.</p><p>EDIT: <a href="http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/valerian.htm">http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/valerian.htm</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Aloha everyone! I am a new member but have been around these topics for a while........anyways just wanted to ask if anyone here has read Matrix V by Val Valerian? After reading the book and then getting deep into the C&#039;s I found a bunch of similarities w/ the material presented by &quot;The Auther&quot; in Matrix V and the material transcribed from the C&#039;s. I know there was a connection and slight relationship between Val and Laura but never found out what really went on between them? I have a good feeling Val is &quot;the Auther&quot; and he may have borrowed some material from Laura.........not sure if anyone here knows a little on what may have went on with them or not and ask for anyone to feel free to share there comments on Matrix V and whatever...... Aloha</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 22:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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