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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>S.E.E.D. wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>According to the above discription of humorless, uncreative, heartless/soulless individuals my mother was a portal, i was married to one (whose mother was also one), and now i&#039;m wondering about my daughter who&#039;s 6.<br />I have a son by a previous relationship and his mother i also accused of being an alien many times, but this was almost 20 years ago.<br />I&#039;m wondering if i should just cut my losses and focus on the human wife and child i have now in my new life.</p><p>Anyone ideas about child portals?</p></blockquote></div><p>Search&nbsp; &quot;OP or non-souled children&quot; on NR.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[nexus]]></name>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>nexus wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hi Alexwierdlife,</p><p>You might think that worldly people know &quot;exactly what&#039;s going on in their reality&quot; because their reality is so mundane.&nbsp; But no matter how hard they try to box reality into familiar, secure parameters they also are filled with interior doubts, fears and insecurities.&nbsp; No matter what most people attain of worldly value, something is missing and they know it.&nbsp; &nbsp;So don&#039;t be so sure that the self assurance of others is solid or superior to you in any way.&nbsp; It is often wafer thin.&nbsp; If you discover your own center you may even see the &#039;self assurance&#039; of others breakdown in amusing ways.&nbsp; It leaks through and can&#039;t be easily hidden from a keen eye.&nbsp; God knows our own breaks down often enough.&nbsp; Our job is to heal those fractures from within our spiritual center rather than cover everything up with materialistic bandaids as most people do.&nbsp; There&#039;s always a new layer of ego to see through and the universe knows how to present it to our conscious awareness.&nbsp; A sense of humour will help to navigate a way through ourselves and others.</p><p>There are also times when we feel off balance or too shocked by our own wounds to believe we could ever succeed spiritually.&nbsp; But whatever your spiritual stature is now, keep putting one foot in front of the other and keep on keeping on.&nbsp; Assume you have a higher self.&nbsp; I found a good approach is talking to your higher self and being willing to see what your HS would show you in yourself and in signs and symols around you.&nbsp; Maybe you already have your own way to the HS.&nbsp; Don&#039;t give up till you see the whites of His eyes.&nbsp; And don&#039;t shoot.</p></blockquote></div><p>I like this post neXus!</p><p>We are vulnerable and insecure creatures in the flesh.&nbsp; Those with the perfect outer image want to convince themselves that they are stronger via illusion.&nbsp; This is far from their reality. As a handyman I can see the other side of people(the shadow) easier than when they anticipate me as a fine craftsman. I let others see me as they would from their own ideals and expectations.&nbsp; I try NOT to sell an image, although, this is exactly what I do unconsciously.&nbsp; I attempt to listen to their needs so I can serve them best; in return I get income and freedom.&nbsp; Most of the image oriented people I have worked for want security and self-love; the best way to give them what they need is to listen to them and allow them to feel that you desire what they have.&nbsp; In reality I do not want what they have.&nbsp; What they hire me to do is separate from what they unconsciously need.&nbsp; It took me years to learn that my freedom and self respect was foreign to them; a rare few hinted to me over the years how rich they thought I was, but I too, was caught up in the pretense that personal success has exterior indicators.&nbsp; I thought that successful people had reached their level of status and financial well-being because they had established themselves in a secure and rewarding system designed to propagate the values for which they appeared to preach: honesty; integrity; effort; optimism; justice; merit; education; loyalty; vision; appreciation. I accepted my vulnerabilities, insecurities, and imperfections, and saw them as personal strengths; these people feared facing their own, for in their world I later found, these traits are looked at as weaknesses.&nbsp; Their outward strengths are illusions built on the forces which deny their own humanity. I would not want to succeed in their world; I would NOT want what they have become, although I can accept that they would not want what I have become, either. My goals were to become a loving father, husband, friend, and a serving worker. I have succeeded without having to be someone important to the culture beyond that. I will die in financial poverty, but this does not dissuade me from remaining on a simple path, for in the US we are all rich relative to the least of us worldwide.&nbsp; I cannot expect to be rewarded by those who would reject what values I stand for. These values define us relative to the context for which we maintain an identity. In then end, I suppose, love is the final quality.</p><p>I thank those who hinted to me that I was a success, for they were honest with themselves and with me.&nbsp; Not everyone who wears the facade of security and confidence is of the same cloth: some do; some don&#039;t; some will; some won&#039;t.&nbsp; I am comforted to know that I can be a handyman or fine craftsman in this world and neither causes me to support a system that robs me of my humanity; for those who reject me, or decline to be honest with me, cannot destroy my spirit-- I simply serve them for different reasons than those who would choose authenticity and love over security and self-importance. The beauty of the path I find myself on is that I can succeed with my values and yet serve those who live within a system that rejects them systematically. We all eat cake!</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2008-02-20T22:39:34Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: how can i be sure that i am not a portal or an agent?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>According to the above discription of humorless, uncreative, heartless/soulless individuals my mother was a portal, i was married to one (whose mother was also one), and now i&#039;m wondering about my daughter who&#039;s 6.<br />I have a son by a previous relationship and his mother i also accused of being an alien many times, but this was almost 20 years ago.<br />I&#039;m wondering if i should just cut my losses and focus on the human wife and child i have now in my new life.</p><p>Anyone ideas about child portals?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2008-02-20T08:15:02Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alexwierdlife,</p><p>You might think that worldly people know &quot;exactly what&#039;s going on in their reality&quot; because their reality is so mundane.&nbsp; But no matter how hard they try to box reality into familiar, secure parameters they also are filled with interior doubts, fears and insecurities.&nbsp; No matter what most people attain of worldly value, something is missing and they know it.&nbsp; &nbsp;So don&#039;t be so sure that the self assurance of others is solid or superior to you in any way.&nbsp; It is often wafer thin.&nbsp; If you discover your own center you may even see the &#039;self assurance&#039; of others breakdown in amusing ways.&nbsp; It leaks through and can&#039;t be easily hidden from a keen eye.&nbsp; God knows our own breaks down often enough.&nbsp; Our job is to heal those fractures from within our spiritual center rather than cover everything up with materialistic bandaids as most people do.&nbsp; There&#039;s always a new layer of ego to see through and the universe knows how to present it to our conscious awareness.&nbsp; A sense of humour will help to navigate a way through ourselves and others.</p><p>There are also times when we feel off balance or too shocked by our own wounds to believe we could ever succeed spiritually.&nbsp; But whatever your spiritual stature is now, keep putting one foot in front of the other and keep on keeping on.&nbsp; Assume you have a higher self.&nbsp; I found a good approach is talking to your higher self and being willing to see what your HS would show you in yourself and in signs and symols around you.&nbsp; Maybe you already have your own way to the HS.&nbsp; Don&#039;t give up till you see the whites of His eyes.&nbsp; And don&#039;t shoot.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-12-16T06:38:27Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>1) someone who truly lacks higher chakras (crown, heart, third eye) -- but might have these <em>emulated</em> through a If you are worried that you are an organic portal, what part of you is doing the worrying? If you were all ego and no soul, would you really be undermining your precious self-image with this kind of doubt? And furthermore, if you are aware of this possibility, then regardless of what the case may be you now have the freewill to become what you prefer to be. </p><p>what if there is no free will, what if that died?&nbsp; sad thought but i think the truth of reality might hurt us all, what if your impulse and instinct is merely a trap for you to fall for? i noticed that peoples first instincts toward me are MOSTLY negative im a confused kid, dont really know whats going on, whenever i think i do, something pops up and is like, &quot;you dont know shit&quot;, its tough, and then i go out in the world and most people know <em>exactly</em> whats going on in their realities, which is nothing abnormal, and then here comes me, all lost and confused like i believe we all should be... considering infinity,&nbsp; and people dont know how to react, so i wonder if peoples first instincts towards me are not their own, but rather a default reaction to something they dont understand.. this might be over everyones head i dont know if im even describing what ive been feeling lately but, i dunno...its probly as confusing as time travel, infinity, nothing, everything, love...life, etc</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-12-16T04:30:32Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>wow, i didnt expect to get so many responses.&nbsp; thanks they were ALL very helpful, too bad i cant respond to them individually, itd be easier to discuss and get a feel for what ur saying, thanks anyway i like the idea of laughing to break any negativity i&#039;m gonna try it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[alexsweirdlife]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-12-16T04:16:57Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Okay, to do this correctly you have to figure out the difference between:</p><p>1) someone who truly lacks higher chakras (crown, heart, third eye) -- but might have these <em>emulated</em> through a mirroring of other people&#039;s energies and behaviors</p><p>2) someone who has real higher chakras, though ones that are dormant, under-developed, cutoff, ignored --&nbsp; but might have occasional flashes of activity coming through from those chakras</p><p>...between: </p><p>1) someone lacking a spiritual core who is just a humanimal with an ego in the driver&#039;s seat</p><p>2) someone who is spiritual at the core, but that core is gagged and bound in the back seat while ego drives</p><p>...between:</p><p>1) someone who is not individually souled</p><p>2) someone who is individually souled but asleep and naive, stupid, or ignorant</p><p>...between:</p><p>1) someone whose soul maturity is <em>embryonic</em> in that they haven&#039;t even been birthed as a reincarnating individual yet</p><p>2) someone whose soul maturity is <em>infantile</em> in that they are new to the reincarnative cycle as a perpetual core of consciousness</p><p>...between:</p><p>1) someone who harms and manipulates others because their sole purpose of existence is to feed off the energy and be used as a tool</p><p>2) someone who harms and manipulates others because their capacity for empathy has been suppressed through trauma and abuse, they are starving for attention because they lack self-esteem, and they have given into impulses from internal and external negative forces</p><p>---------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p>If you are worried that you are an organic portal, what part of you is doing the worrying? If you were all ego and no soul, would you really be undermining your precious self-image with this kind of doubt? And furthermore, if you are aware of this possibility, then regardless of what the case may be you now have the freewill to become what you prefer to be. </p><p>And if one is merely referring to people who are invested in the matrix, in the mainstream, non-creative, imitative, sarcastic, materialistic way of living, then &quot;pod person&quot; would be more appropriate since that is descriptive of behavior and lifestyle without saying anything about whether the person is individually souled or not.</p><p>Even if you are fully individually souled, during moments of absent-mindedness or foolishness, or moments of emotional aggravation, you too can be used temporarily as a tool. But there is a difference between people who are permanent tools because no one&#039;s home, and people who are occasional tools when they lose their mindfulness during a critical moment.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-12-15T20:42:58Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>fromthatshow wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I think that a portal would not spend the time pondering whether or not they were a portal.</p></blockquote></div><p>That is incorrect from my perspective. I have a manikin buddy that found out that he&#039;s an Organic Portal. He&#039;s been pondering day after day about it and having frequent glitches. </p><p>How do I know he is organic portal?</p><p>1.) He does not wonder about ego.<br />2.) He lacks creativity, instead, he mimics<br />3.) He usually gets bored a lot<br />4.) He has a facebook<br />5.) He asks lots of questions<br />6.) He likes to stress other people by dumb mind games<br />7.) He has a horrible sense of humor (There&#039;s nothing wrong with that though!)</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-12-15T20:24:47Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Everyone I think may be an Organic Portal or an Agent sometime within their lifetime(s). Awareness and knowledge there of, should allow you to change this if this is the desired goal.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-12-15T19:38:09Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Nyarlathotep wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Yes, it is funny that the most effective form of banishing is laughter. Ive heard a few stories of people doing a magickal operation and&nbsp; when a &quot;demon&quot; or something starts to mess with them and they simply start laughing at them. Not like a fake laugh or fake smile, but true geniune laughter. All the negative energy dissolves really fast. I like that story Robert Anton Wilson illustrated about getting these little astral critters away from his magickal circle. You know what he did? He imagined a plate of cocktail shrimp, his favorite appetizer, and fed them! At first he was terrified like &quot;oh shit, what do I do about this....&quot; Then it hit him what to do. HAHA, worked like a charm.</p></blockquote></div><p>Wonderful story. RAW was one of the great Cosmic Comics.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-12-15T18:25:41Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I think that a portal would not spend the time pondering whether or not they were a portal.&nbsp; The fact that you asked the question should help you to realize that you are more than that.&nbsp; <br />I also think the biggest factor in determining a portal or agent is sincerity.&nbsp; It&#039;s fairly easy to determine whether someone is doing something with sincerity or not.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-12-15T17:35:41Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it is funny that the most effective form of banishing is laughter. Ive heard a few stories of people doing a magickal operation and&nbsp; when a &quot;demon&quot; or something starts to mess with them and they simply start laughing at them. Not like a fake laugh or fake smile, but true geniune laughter. All the negative energy dissolves really fast. I like that story Robert Anton Wilson illustrated about getting these little astral critters away from his magickal circle. You know what he did? He imagined a plate of cocktail shrimp, his favorite appetizer, and fed them! At first he was terrified like &quot;oh shit, what do I do about this....&quot; Then it hit him what to do. HAHA, worked like a charm.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-12-15T17:14:46Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I distrust those people without a sense of humor. There seems to be an increasing number of people that neither laugh or smile. It&#039;s very unsettling. I don&#039;t mean a sadistic way of smiling or laughing either. The most selfless people I have met, who really care about others, always sincerely smile and laugh in my experience. I don&#039;t know about OPs or agents. Perhaps people are just really unhappy and armored to the extreme. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-12-15T16:57:01Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Alex, you have to focus on yourself and you own developement as a first priority. The more you educate yourself for yourself and the more you become aligned with your true core self the more all those other irrantional worries and things will just fall away and dissolve. And, it is funny how just being aware in itself will bring the right people and situations into your life at just the right moment. So, dont give up or get too anxious about the people around you being &quot;agents&quot;. It is great to be aware of it though. Im aware of it too but the more you turn your attention away from them and more toward your own SELF, and to your OWN personal development the better.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Nyarlathotep]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-12-15T16:43:46Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>OP, oppresive person, is a scientology term. Are you a scientologist?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-12-15T16:29:07Z</updated>
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