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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Something on how mentality is used]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>What we have to understand is that mentality is also energy; mental energy.&nbsp; Of which the predominant mentality seem to be one that is deadening the physical body.&nbsp; Deadening us as whole instrumental/creative beings.&nbsp; <br />The current state that makes up the matrix is self fulfilling and self serving in order to keep itself running to the benefit of a few powerful holders of what we are made to think is reality by means of rules, regulations and laws.&nbsp; <br />The current mental imprisonment is amplified through the abuse of power.&nbsp; A lot of makebelieve and scam, infiltration and undermining.&nbsp; Words spoken that means something else (in reverse sometimes).&nbsp; You try to break free, or ignore the lower 4D&#039;s for example, and then you have them there again saying something like: &#039;you thought you were free, didn&#039;t you?&#039; in a gleeful malicious manner.</p><p>Beyond that is reality.&nbsp; A sonorous magnificent vastness of opportunities.&nbsp; In reaching and incorporating that perhaps we can show them there are better and more truthful ways to happiness than what they think has to be taken from others.</p><p>H</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[freebird]]></name>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Something on how mentality is used]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>THIS POST EDITED A FEW TIMES ... so reread if necessary! <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>Is it just me or is Aaronfirebrand going through here deleting all his previous posts?&nbsp; </p><br /><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>freebird wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> Even at convincing people that what is for instance written&nbsp; comes from them.&nbsp; An ability to take or fake mental superiority.&nbsp; Demonstrating authority by use of the unsaid.&nbsp; Leaving people with a bad undefined feeling with a you-know-what-I-mean attitude.&nbsp; They then have a general unconsciousness to prey on.&nbsp; The unknown, the unsaid , the unspoken... The representatives or OP&#039;s may&nbsp; come across as a friend and helper; someone who is calming things down.&nbsp; It strikes me that some of the&nbsp; most powerful representatives have a very compelling power and will even come across as pleasant.&nbsp; -To a degree of sluggishness in some cases in fact.&nbsp; Apparently they possess the knowledge on how to trigger people and when.&nbsp; This may be presented as human knowledge and/or popular psychology. <br />The whole mentality is perpetuated by a culture of secrecy that in actual fact is protective of the forces behind.</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;ve detected this myself very strongly and this statement (your entire post) resonates with me in the strongest way possible.&nbsp; It&#039;s an unnerving feeling sometimes and I&#039;m convinced it&#039;s some kind of occult control technique.&nbsp; I bet it probably has to do more with the concept of etheric vampirism than psychology.&nbsp; Have you ever been around, or even better, alone, with someone who you notice doing this, and you somehow feel yourself as being on an unequal footing for no apparent reason?&nbsp; Where they are able to control the conversation due to some kind of power that you can&#039;t quite match?&nbsp; I have.&nbsp; I think the mental sluggishness you mention is INDUCED as a part of this control.&nbsp; Whatever it is it&#039;s a dark power and as far as I can tell is NOT to the benefit of the person whom it is being used against.&nbsp; And the outward &quot;faking mental superority&quot; is almost like an arrogant attitude they get as a result of successfully using this technique.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>SednaSphere wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>. It&#039;s certainly something to consider that the types of technology used by the controllers can explain a good part and parcel of the puzzling effects of their manipulations. As long as it involves technology they are masters of it and can use it in very uncanny ways. Whereas most people are still fumbling with technological advances in one form or another as they constantly advance.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yes, exactly what I was thinking, Sedna.&nbsp; Arthur C. Clarke said &quot;a sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.&quot;&nbsp; Now, I&#039;ve mentioned elsewhere on NR some of my little stories which have convinced me that there is almost certainly SOMETHING going on beyond this 3D realm we inhabit -- whether it involves 4th Density, other dimensions, alien visitors, or whatever I don&#039;t know, but something more is going on.&nbsp; However, even within the context of regular 3D reality, we know that advanced technologies are held by those in positions of power, and that alone can probably account for some of the strangeness we hear of.&nbsp; Ie, strange lights in the sky could be scalar-wave related phenomena rather than UFOs.&nbsp; People acting strangely towards us could really share information brain-to-brain, maybe not psychically but by these implants and so forth.&nbsp; &nbsp;And who knows what other cool toys they have?&nbsp; I suspect that spacecraft immune to gravity have been in human hands for decades and may very well account for many UFO sightings as well as play an important part in the USA&#039;s ability to maintain military dominance in the world despite running (so far) on an all-volunteer basis.&nbsp; Pure speculation, of course.&nbsp; </p><p>Another cool story you might not be aware of (Montalk commented briefly on it once) is a self-taught physicist up in Canada named John Hutchison.&nbsp; The guy was experimenting with Tesla-related ideas and has been able to defy gravity, and pass solid objects into each other using what is apparently a real-life phase shifting effect.&nbsp; This was 10 years ago.&nbsp; I have a few video clips on the computer which I&#039;ll have to dig up and make available.&nbsp; Amazing stuff.&nbsp; After seeing that some one fellow can do this, it really makes you wonder just how far along the different nations of the world must be technologically.&nbsp; It&#039;s probably beyond anything we can dream.</p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>aaronfirebrand wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>So what are &quot;we&quot; going to do about it? I mean, really. How exactly do you plan on battling TPTB? Talking about things, sharing info, etc.--that&#039;s not &quot;battle&quot;. You use the terms of warfare, but it seems like you&#039;re actually speaking of some naive hope that if we &quot;just believe it will change, it will&quot;.<br />Ideas are worthless without implementation.<br />I&#039;d love to hear someone explain how we create our own reality while he&#039;s standing on the tracks with a speeding locomotive bearing down on him.</p></blockquote></div><p>I think that the only things we CAN do are to 1) work on our own personal freedom to as great a degree as possible and 2) educate those willing to listen.&nbsp; This second is very powerful.&nbsp; In times like these where deception is one of the primary weapons directed at the masses, education is the armor to withstand the attack.&nbsp; Governments and corporations spend BIG $$$ hiring and training professional people in the fields of advertising, public relations, psychological warfare and so on.&nbsp; They do that because it has very real, tangible results.&nbsp; &nbsp;So, aaron, I say you are making a mistake by trying to associate education with the fradulent &quot;you create your own reality&quot; concept.&nbsp; Again, knowledge is power, and probably one of the only powers we have.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2004-09-23T08:00:25Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Something on how mentality is used]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>morningsun:</p><p>I remember seeing this thing about a guy who has a sailboat rigged to his brain, and by thinking &quot;move forward&quot; he could move it forward, etc. Really, if this is possible then the hidden communication devices seem almost easy in comparison.<br />So you&#039;re on to something there, and perhaps this is used all the time in situations like the ones freebird mentions. It&#039;s certainly something to consider that the types of technology used by the controllers can explain a good part and parcel of the puzzling effects of their manipulations. As long as it involves technology they are masters of it and can use it in very uncanny ways. Whereas most people are still fumbling with technological advances in one form or another as they constantly advance.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2004-09-23T05:24:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Something on how mentality is used]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>(this comment was made in response to a comment apparently since deleted by the author)</p><p>Hehe agreed on the older music, and no offense intended.&nbsp; I need to watch my wording.&nbsp; &nbsp;I&#039;m not sure how to distinguish &quot;focusing&quot; from &quot;analyzing&quot; as you seem to be suggesting.&nbsp; &nbsp;As far as I&#039;m concerned your attention (focus) is a prerequisite to think about -- or analyze -- anything at all.</p><p>Otherwise&nbsp; I _think_ I understand what you are saying, ie, you don&#039;t want to focus on things in life that distract you from your life and progress, like toxic friends or coworkers, other peoples&#039; dramas and so forth.&nbsp; Those you can afford to ignore. Agreed.</p><p>But people, groups, nations that are actively working against you in some manner deserve your focus and attention if you intend to combat them.&nbsp; Of course, you have the option of ignoring them too, but you&#039;ll live to regret it.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2004-09-23T02:19:54Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>aaronfirebrand wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Do you know when Henley wrote Inside Job?&nbsp; I&#039;m surprised at his courage to record it and still expect to keep his career. Was it a major label release?</p></blockquote></div><p>Amazon says the release date was 5/23/2000 which sounds right.&nbsp; Yeah, it was a major release, his first one in over a decade actually.&nbsp; &nbsp;and probably his best effort to date.&nbsp; I don&#039;t think this type of thing could have any negative impact on an artist like Henley&#039;s career at all.&nbsp; He can say what he likes and it&#039;s not like he&#039;s pointing fingers at anyone in particular.&nbsp; If you&#039;re an entry-level clerk in some government or large-corporation, screaming about corruption might not be the best career move, though.&nbsp; &nbsp;Who you are determines what you can say. </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>aaronfirebrand wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Finally, a general question I feel is relevant here: How can we develop strength to resist evil by focusing on it, thereby empowering it?</p></blockquote></div><p>Personally I think this question is self-contradictory and contains an all-too-common mistake.&nbsp; The issue has even been talked about here on NR sometime in the past week or so: &quot;focusing on evil&quot; does NOT empower it.&nbsp; That is without a doubt nothing more than fluffy new-age nonsense.&nbsp; &nbsp; If you want to stand a chance in ANY conflict, you make it your primary mission to know EVERYTHING YOU POSSIBLY CAN about your foe.&nbsp; Knowledge is power.&nbsp; &nbsp;And life on Earth, like it or not, IS a battle with the highest stakes of all: your freedom as an individual, and the title to your soul if there is such a thing.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2004-09-22T20:34:29Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Something on how mentality is used]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Very well put Sednasphere as usual, and others too.&nbsp; I basically practize those things too as I have learned to look after myself; even mentally.&nbsp; On the other hand; those I adress in the post do things to crave attention as well.&nbsp; Hungry&nbsp; for more sort of, or dominans.&nbsp; Believe that has to be&nbsp; dragged into the light as long as it just goes on and on.&nbsp; Getting to know and understanding the tactics.<br />Have read through &quot;The Art of Hyperdimensional War&quot;&nbsp; Will do again and let the points there become second nature more and more.<br />H</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2004-09-22T09:08:02Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Something on how mentality is used]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Funny, I&#039;ve often suspected a &#039;hive mind&quot; principle in operation in some particular people I&#039;ve known.&nbsp; I won&#039;t get into details on how or why, but this is based on observable data and not some vague idea or theory.&nbsp; Anyone see the movie &quot;They Live&quot;?&nbsp; &nbsp; Aliens disguised as humans taking over the world, with the aid of the humans who joined up with them in a &quot;power alliance&quot; in exchange for money, power, and the opportunity to travel the universe.&nbsp; They all communicated via wristwatches which also served to teleport the wearer to the subterrainian alien base under the city.&nbsp; It&#039;s a low-budget B-movie from the 80s starring &quot;Rowdy&quot; Roddy Piper and I&#039;ve always thought it probably described reality pretty closely, all things considered. </p><p>I just read in the news the other day that there&#039;s a new cellphone in Japan that has a special speaker-replacement device built in that allows you to hold the phone up against your jaw, and it sends the sound signal directly into your eardrum, bypassing your ear canal.&nbsp; It&#039;s out now.&nbsp; In addition, there is another sort of technology already working, though not out for any practical public application yet, where specific thought patterns can be differentiated from one another, and so simple machines can be controlled by thought alone when a subject is wired up to a special monitor.&nbsp; </p><p>If this kind of technology is out there in public, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a stretch to suspect that groups having access to advanced technology may already be using incredibly small implanted communication devices of one sort or another and no one would ever know.&nbsp; </p><p>On the topic, check out the lyrics to &quot;Inside Job&quot; by Don Henley.&nbsp; Great song and album.<br /><a href="http://www.lyricscafe.com/h/henley_don/007.htm">http://www.lyricscafe.com/h/henley_don/007.htm</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[morningsun76]]></name>
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			<updated>2004-09-22T06:01:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Something on how mentality is used]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I thought a bit more about the matter of insinuation you brought up, freebird, and other feelings and phenomena you mentioned. I mentioned some of these things to Montalk awhile back about a similar set of circumstances. Or rather, as I was unsure about the situation, I decided to ask for help. He suggested that I not read<br />the posts of anyone who seems to push my buttons in such a fashion that it may at least be distraction, if not something more such as the organic portal phemomenon.<br />Orchestrated misunderstanding, if you will, or even outright dislike, or contempt,etc.<br />The overwheming feeling of it, vs. mere annoyance. </p><p>So now I no longer read certain posts, and this allows me to better stay away from any mental proximity, which would only provide a way for myself to either upset myself, or to get attacked in some fashion of a strong enough nature as to be personally damaging according to my own guage and estimation. Doing the best I can in this! Seems strange at first, and it may make me appear redundant or to lose somewhat the thread of discussion; so this is perhaps something to be aware of for me as well in making posts.</p><p>In personal situations, avoiding bodily proximity to a person, within a mile radius, may also help. When the hive mentality is in effect ( I&#039;ve experienced the types of things you mention) then this doesn&#039;t do any good because &quot;the word gets around&quot; instantly. So you&#039;re dealing with multiple entities sharing one body of knowledge<br />about you and working together to ensure we stay within a range they can use to attack.</p><p>As there are multiple phenomena working against knowledge, awareness etc, and among them using multiple techniques, so you no doubt are able to handle it with a multiple pronged approach as well.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2004-09-22T03:39:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Something on how mentality is used]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I see what you are saying. I thought that might be the case. I do not wish to get into their subjects either, for that&#039;s part of the trap! Reason I asked was to suss out more of the situation to get a better sense of it, without wasting time on plentiful &quot;he said, she said&quot; debates over trivialities which are worthless to dwell upon anyway.</p><p>Fake Zen koans deserve a real kick in the butt. There is one Alan Watts tape I have listened to and it was the clearest and most basic explanation of Zen I&#039;ve yet heard.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[SednaSphere]]></name>
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			<updated>2004-09-21T22:52:31Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Something on how mentality is used]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>[/quote=SednaSphere]</p><p>Would it be possible to &quot;drag&quot; some more details and specifics into the light? This might at least put a monkeywrench in the works. We&#039;ve had posters here who were would be sabatuers of the whole operation and concept; the best psychopaths are never caught, and always appear to be &quot;nice.&quot;<br />They always blend in. </p><p>A fair enough suggestion but the answer lie in the manipulation itself, and my answer to it is: I am not interested in taking on their issues. Thinking of it or dealing with it.&nbsp; Which is what their intentions are behind the ongoing malicious rumours, insinuations and speculations.&nbsp; Replacement through manipulation. It comes across as hints or insinuations.&nbsp; A tilt on the head perhaps that says; &#039;like that, that one, you know what I&#039;m talking about&#039;..&nbsp; For many people there is a need for someone to take the role as a scapegoat to express the unexpressed in them.&nbsp; The conditioning which runs through the overall mentality.&nbsp; Tension thus created that generates a mental force field there is made use of.&nbsp; Because of the humiliation underlying it, it often comes across as a cocky we-are-the-best , we-know-better, or we-are-fixing-it mentality.&nbsp; &nbsp;Or patronizing false representation.&nbsp; To the detriment of individuality.&nbsp; A repressive hive-mentality.&nbsp; A sometimes hurried rat-race, relay race mentality that doesn&#039;t allow you to rest and reflect.&nbsp; Be in life.&nbsp; If you ground yourself and see the world with your own eyes, you are perceived as very provocative.&nbsp; It&#039;s always after you some way or another.&nbsp; <br />Worth mentioning is also that there may be treaths directed towards individual people that is putting them and perhaps even their families at risk.&nbsp; Keeping us from getting to the bottom of things so to speak.&nbsp; Or an inherent loyalty&nbsp; to the mentality.<br />Since we&#039;re talking about lower 4D powers there might be a question of very scary stuff that doesn&#039;t want to come to light.&nbsp; Wanting to hide behind what in me for instance has seemed like a convenient person(human).&nbsp; What it does is producing a feeling of unsettledness and eeriness.&nbsp; Shocking, upsetting and recognizable.&nbsp; The stories also tend to shapeshift to suit the agenda.&nbsp; The surroundings are accordingly worked on or prepared if you like.<br />H</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[freebird]]></name>
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			<updated>2004-09-21T11:25:24Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Questions can be used to confound you. Fake Zen koans that only serve to make you feel ashamed for having made an honest inquiry. Brick walls rather than doorways or railway track switches. A true Zen koan points to a <em>larger</em> truth (or shocks you into one), but a fake Zen koan says your curiosity is naive and that you should just give up. (And not the &quot;giving up&quot; of illusions that is called Satori, but the giving up of energy, enthusiasm, curiosity.) A fake Zen koan question in response to a legitimate inquiry can be used to make you feel lowly and stupid compared to the questioner, who likes to give you the impression they have &quot;tread this ground before&quot;. And a question <em>implies</em> the possibility of an answer, which the fake Zen questioner can have his audience assume he holds, but is not revealing because he wants you to walk on your own through the (nonexistent) door. The mentailty of being humble is the one exploited here. The fake Zen teacher pretends to be so humble that he would not presume to feed you an answer. Your own natural humbleness in the face of a &quot;teacher&quot; causes you not to question the worthlessness or true intent of his words.</p><p>It used to confuse me when I&#039;d encounter someone who would present me with fake Zen koan type responses to my inquiries, because I couldn&#039;t understand why they&#039;d do such a thing. Aren&#039;t we all here to help each other? But it turns out &quot;we&quot; aren&#039;t all here to help each other, in fact some of &quot;us&quot; are only here to confound.</p><p>(Note: Alan Watts is a good guy to listen to for some real Zen koans.)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[czyx]]></name>
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			<updated>2004-09-20T22:08:04Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Something on how mentality is used]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the problem with words is that they can be used to clarify or confuse. They can match the mental mode of a person, or be in direct opposition to it. Words say one thing, something innocuous, while the person could be mentally elswhere, bombarding you with hypnotic waves or sucking you of loosh if they post something that pushes your buttons, as explored in Emotional Management. Generally the parameters and limitatations of the setting dictate an initial assumption that people mean what they say and &quot;it is what it is.&quot;</p><p>Sometimes it is what it isn&#039;t , or it isn&#039;t what it appears to be, that is. So all this is going on all the time and the constant bombardment may wear you down. If ambushes are occuring whenever you rarely post, then you are being targeted.You&#039;ve got something to say, and they want to make sure you don&#039;t say it.<br />Hence ridicule, calling you paranoid when really you&#039;re just correctly assessing the situation, negating your intuition, etc. are just some of the tactics in their arsenal.</p><p>It&#039;s easy to present yourself as anything, or anyone, on the internet. Easy for several people to use one i.d. Easy for a predator to make him or herself look like the most clued-in, nice, easy going person in the world. But they are not.</p><p>They want to steal our energy. They want to control us. The more nuanced we are, the more knowledge and wisdom we have, the subtler and more insinuating must their methods be. But the biggest boondoggle is that they would like you to ignore it <br />instead of handle it directly. They would like you to believe you are negative, or confused, and that they are superior and &quot;beyond all this.&quot; But we know that that&#039;s deception. Jim Jones told his followers they would be &quot;beyond all this&quot; if they drank poison punch, because we are all really spirit, etc.</p><p>I bet they wish they hadn&#039;t done that.<br />H</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[SednaSphere]]></name>
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			<updated>2004-09-20T18:01:05Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thank&#039;s for the great post (reply) SednaSphere.&nbsp; Got almost too emotional to write or read the subsequent post now.&nbsp; It&#039;s cool or even amazing that there is some sort of synchronisity between us.&nbsp; I&#039;ll read through (again) your other posts.&nbsp; Often there is almost too much stuff to go through and too little time.&nbsp; <br />You really put down some appropriate words adressing the issue.&nbsp; I feel it is often like a mental battle.&nbsp; Often having to deal with people who do the dirty job for the lower 4D guys in control, influencing the rest who don&#039;t have a shadow of an inkling of what is going on.<br />And yes, there are &quot;agents&quot; (or whatever you might like to call it) who try to&nbsp; push you into the background when you like with this touch the real issues; the secrets.<br />H</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[freebird]]></name>
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			<updated>2004-09-20T10:17:16Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Something on how mentality is used]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Oh, thank you for those refreshing lyrics that speak the truth. It makes me feel good to see that someone&#039;s paying attention. O&#039;Connor is brilliant.<br />Your careful point by point analysis is helpful. I saw that episode of the Apprentice too, by the way, and I thought the exact same thing: bingo! now there&#039;s an example of what not to do, and I&#039;d made a similar though much smaller mistake!OUCH. Did I learn brotha.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[SednaSphere]]></name>
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			<updated>2004-09-20T04:46:02Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Something on how mentality is used]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#039;re both right on the money and that this is a very important topic.&nbsp; &nbsp;I see it as &quot;Dealing with skilled manipulation&quot; regardless of its source.&nbsp; This is relevant in the corporate world as well as others that may be associated with dark forces of any variety.</p><p>I&#039;ve found that by following a few ground rules one can come out a lot better off when in these situations.&nbsp; </p><p>1) USE THE POWER THAT YOU DO HAVE.&nbsp; Chances are, when you&#039;re dealing with manipulating forces, they will be in a more powerful position then you are.&nbsp; This does not mean that you are completely powerless, however.&nbsp; If you have certain knowledge, information, skills or resources that can be of benefit to them, make sure it&#039;s on your terms.&nbsp; Don&#039;t ever give up the power that you do have to make a point or to prove your intentions.&nbsp; The other side would never do this and will not respect you for it but rather see it simply as weakness and an extra opportunity for attack.&nbsp; &nbsp;(side note: the contestant Bradford on the new &quot;Apprentice&quot; television series just learned this last point the hard way.)</p><p>2) BE HONEST, REASONABLE AND STRONG.&nbsp; They will try to spin the story, twist your perceptions and keep going over and over the issue to wear you down until you finally give in, not because they&#039;re right but because you&#039;re exhausted.&nbsp; Be aware of this tactic and don&#039;t give in.&nbsp; Argue your position with logic and reason in good faith, but if it becomes clear that they have no intention of a two-way dialogue, politely end the conversation and &quot;agree to disagree.&quot;&nbsp; </p><p>3) RESPECT THE POWER OF DARKNESS.&nbsp; If all else seems to be failing, and you are aware of the methods of and reasons for the manipulations, there is no doubt you could prevail by openly stating those facts: after all, light vanquishes darkness.&nbsp; However, you may make yourself a target for later, and possibly far more devastating attacks, by doing so.&nbsp; So choose your battles.&nbsp; &nbsp;You can usually accomplish your objective with a more subtle approach.&nbsp; Light a candle first, and you may find the critters run away at the first sign of light and there&#039;s no need to burn them with a million candlepower spotlight.&nbsp; Even though they would not do the same for you, set an example of compassion and integrity, so that others may see and possibly choose to join your side.</p><p>From &quot;The Emperor&#039;s New Clothes&quot; by Sinead O&#039;Connor:</p><p>Everyone can see what&#039;s going on<br />They laugh `cause they know they&#039;re untouchable<br />Not because what I said was wrong<br />Whatever it may bring<br />I will live by my own policies<br />I will sleep with a clear conscience<br />I will sleep in peace<br />Maybe it sounds mean<br />But I really don&#039;t think so<br />You asked for the truth and I told you<br />Through their own words<br />They will be exposed<br />They&#039;ve got a severe case of<br />The emperor&#039;s new clothes</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[morningsun76]]></name>
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			<updated>2004-09-20T01:22:16Z</updated>
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