If you are manic it is because you have allowed mania to overcome your being, dark forces can make subtle influences thjat you should follow egotistical thinking till your perception of reality is extremely narrow and well egocentric, mania onsets as one gives into the manic emotions out of selfish desire to experience them, or another way of saying it is people have tough lives here on earth emotionally, negative forces like to pray on that and mess up that and put more pressue on them to give in to fear and egocentrcicity than they can handle, thus mania and depression.

Now if they do this to feed, then then the depressive face of bioplar could be due to and expendature of lifeforce, it could also be a time when higher forces try to communicate with you, to help resolve what's happening.

Kundalini is lifeforce so you are correct, life force is sexual, emotional and lfie energy, the gift of emotions and subjective consciousness is what separates the living from dead, life force also known as Orgone, chi, ki, prana etc...

Neuroleptics, can be effective at controlling manic bipolar, it supresses lifeforce release, but it also damaged the etheric body which conveys and transfers emotional energy through the physical body. They can permanently keeep your lifeforce depleted with all associated effects, ill-health etc...

Damage to the etheric in this way can also separate on with vast amounts of self comunicative ability and ability to to operate spiritually.

I do deeply feel though, that the mis-firing of the kundalini creates manic-depression.   It someting I realized 15 years ago. And really felt that this what occured to my Father.  Anyhow, he experience this condition unfortunately in the late '50s. (in his early 30s.)

So here's the book that may shed some light on this man's personal experience regarding the kundalini:

[size=16]Gopi Krishna's         Kundalini: The Evolutionary Energy in Man, Shambhala: 1971[/size]

We asked my DAD what is was like to get 'high' (manic).  His reply was that
it's like having a few beers (you get that high) and then eventually we would want to go to sleep, but he said that in his case, he keeps on getting higher, and higher, and higher and never wanted to go to bed when it was time...Dad did not drink alcohol nor took drugs.

Because those that are 'manic' (high) don't want to go bed and rest, they can die because the PHYSICAL  BODY gets exhausted.  No rest. No sleep.  They just want to keep on going.

Myself, I believe it's the mis-firing of one's kundalini (sexual energy).  A few years ago, I came across of biography who suffered from this (manic depression) and  explained of the mis-firing of the kundalini.  He was from India.  His wife took care of him for many years, until he was able to resolve his 'dark side' and forgive.  In other words, in previous lives we were murderers, killers, etc.  This is recorded in the bilogoical cell tissu of our physical body.  When the Kundalini is ignited, the rememberance of past behaviours is consciously awakened within us.  Obviously this seldom happens with most of us.  The author did not take medications, but he was 'suffering' from this for many, many years.  He would be 'depressed' for weeks on end, and then high.  His wife is the one who truly allowed him to recover.  He also had a friend who was his spiritual advisor.  Note:  INDIA is a very spiritual nation.  Western civilization would have a great difficulty in accepting this.

I trylu apologized for not knowing the author (GOPI?) but when I go into the big city of Victoria I'll try to find the book. (and I haven't been there in 2 months, so be patient.

It's also important to note, that one cannot get low (normal) in this condition.  If you are capable of becoming normal without medication, I suspect you are not manic-depression.  Maybe Bi-Polar, but not Manic!

BeWell in Movement,
Monique

Thanks Lyra!

Oh by the way Lyra, I do like your blunt views, I'd rather someone tell me bluntly than to pussy foot around to cushion things, so to speak. I also wanted to mention that I don't think I could 'lift' the restraining order for the kids without lifting it from my niece also. My feeling is that it would be like telling my niece, "hey, I've lifted the order, so now you've won and can attack me when ever you want" yada yada yada. Grrrrrrrrr I do need her out of my life, because it is affecting ME and my health!

Thanks all:)

Well, cool.    Lately in reading obnoxious Dear Abby letters I've come to realize I have a more male mindset and way of dealing with things.  I was just reading some article on the 'net regarding the way females deal with "frenemies" - friend enemies - and in reading it I was just shaking my head.  It's not anything I would ever tolerate.  Towards the end of the article it talks about males having a low threshold of tolerance for the complications that women go through with their friendships.  (and you could probably insert family relationships in there as well, as I've read or witnessed many a female who tolerated obnoxious crap from family members or spouses for years.)  I just have no tolerance for things, when people have shown what they're about, that's it, they're out of there, and I'm done.  Buh bye.  Moving on with my life, I have no patience.  I have things to do, and I'm not going to allow people to get in the way of that, being some annoying energy draining distraction.  So yeah, my advise is always coming from that mindset, probably unfortunately for the people who receive it and don't have that mindset and can't relate.  haha

Thanks all:)

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In my case, while continuing to grow spiritually, I also learned how to take better care of my body and mind. Some things are really basic, like eating & sleeping & exercising sufficiently. I don't need any medications -- extreme highs & lows are not my problem anymore (and I doubt brain chemistry was ever a root cause.) But everyone's unique, and I don't presume to know what someone else might need. Did some condition get cured, or did I just "grow up"?

I have been labeled with this affliction.  I don't believe I ever threatened anyone bodily harm but there were a few cases where I was pretty far gone.  Luckily I was able to get back, and in time figure out how not to go to those placed again.  Damn are they hard to get back from!  I think among a dozen or more other factors, I was tuned in in an off way to serious time period factors like the 2000 election debacle, good ol' 9 / 1 1 , and the unparalleled psychological torture environment of the buildup to the Iraq war in the U.S.

I'm fine enough now and I don't take any meds with any regularity.  The only ones I take are only to help me sleep, and I was lucky enough to have them prescribed by a shrink who was cool enough to say just take them as needed.  I rarely do.  They had me on regular stuff for a while and did blood tests to make sure I was taking it, I'm pretty sure.  The whole thing was obscenely political and I thankfully don't want to go into it here.

globug, with regards to your niece, I would lay off and give her some space if that's an option.  If you think she might fall under the old classic cliché of "a danger to herself or others" then get someone to talk to her whom you think is sympathetic, and one of you try and get an idea of the terms on which she can be reasoned with.  I always wish more people had tried harder to talk me down, but to be fair it is an awful lot to expect from any individual.

I hope she's able to recover and adjust as well as necessary to this f@#ked-up society and that a minimal amount of psychiatric or other type of authority is necessary to be involved.  Remember that any loved-one who is able to talk to her on reasonable terms is keeping an "agent" type from possibly doing the same but not as sympathetically if things were to get out of hand.  There is little or no doubt in my mind that this ""'disorder'"" is frequently used to single out and ostracize troublemakers, those who make the good kind of trouble of course

you can't force your love on people, and you got two kids to think about

That, in a nutshell is the bottom line I suppose.
My gut feeling is she won't be open to the shaman route, but it won't hurt to try.

Good luck.

Would it be beneficial for her to see a shaman or something of that affect? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, thankyou.

Hi Globug,

Based on much reading I have done into REAL shamans, I would most definately say yes. Whether your niece would be open to this I don't know. If you were going to explore this, I would do as much homework as you can on the individual, but then that applies to all healing I suppose.

Do take the time to watch these video's, they're fantastic :

http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=munay+ki

also, here's an interview with Dawn Paul. I am currently discussing a plan of action for me with her. She works remotely from anywhere in the world, so maybe you should check out her wesite too :

http://www.liberate-online.co.uk/assets … 481871.mp3

http://www.liberate-online.co.uk/

I have been on the recieving end of extreme mental illness myself. You have my sincerest sympathies.

Lots of love,

Tim.

My advise is probably not what you want to hear - it never is for most people.  But here it is in a nutshell, since you posed this question to the forum:

1.  "! But I also know that all she want's is to be loved, but she will not let me love her."

      -  How do you know that this what she wants?  Has she told you this?  (if she did, you didn't mention it.) Or are you filling in the blanks, seeing what you want to see based on how you are as a person, and what you know of how others are?   

      -  We can't force our love on other people.  And we can't justify forcing it on them by saying "I know that deep down this is what they really want, even though they won't admit it and don't show it and continue to abuse me and act in a mentally unstable manner."   Sometimes "love" is walking away.   I know, because this is coming from somebody who had a crazy mom that would swing back and forth between being calm and normal, and then full of anger and rage, venting her bitter frustrations out on her two kids with emotional, verbal and physical abuse and all around craziness.  She was famous for her "push and pull."  One minute she hated you and was doing everything in her power to push you away - then she was crying and had to have you back.  I hate you, I love you, I hate you, I love you.  The woman was mental, and there's nothing that I could do to change that.   I recognized that as a kid and parted ways with her in life permanently by 19.  She was off her rocker and needed help.  She didn't need a shaman.  She didn't need my insistence of forced love.  She needed something far more powerful than that.  And in the meantime, I had my sanity to protect and my own life to live, so I was atta there, see ya.

2.  "When she has these outbursts I can not tell if she is seriuos or not, and I do not want to take the chance to find out if she's serious and would carry through with the threats. I have two children to raise of my own. I can not 'fix' her life for her, she has to take responsibility for her actions. I do love her, but I am not going to live in fear!"

      - You didn't mention whether she lives with you or not.  Maybe you mentioned it in other threads, but I don't remember.  But if she lives with you, then she needs to get out, NOW, especially if you have two kids.  She's 30 years old, she's an adult, not 5 or 6, so out she goes.  Don't think twice, don't look back.  Out she goes, and before you do it make sure you have assistance on hand to make sure you're protected when she's escorted out and doesn't try to attack you and go down in flames.  Now, if she lives with somebody else and you're seeing her by visiting her, then the visits needs to stop, NOW, since you have two kids and like you said, you can't be sure if she really means it when she says she's going to kill you.  Need motivation to stop the visits?  Envision the faces of your two kids.  That should do it.  But to either kick her out or cease your visitation requires understanding the points made in #1.

So if you're not going to live in fear, as you keep saying............then don't.  Walk away from this situation.

Like I said, my advise is always blunt and to the point, so it's probably not what you want to hear - you want advise about shamans, translation = more options - and you want validation from others that it's the right course of action to keep forcing your love on her, when I'm going to tell you to get the hell away from her, she's old enough to know better, you can't force your love on people, and you have two kids to think about, so snap out of it!     Yes, it's a full moon, what can I say.  But we can't force others to change, and from what you've described in this thread and others, it doesn't sound like she's open to change.....hence my blunt advise that centers around your safety and your children's, versus patient attempts at rehabilitating somebody who doesn't sound, from what you described, to be capable of it, and which would in the meantime only be jeopardizing your safety.