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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: 2012 Y2K Bust or Something More]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Daisy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I personally believe that there WILL be changes around that date - it&#039;s just that they&#039;ll be subtle, and perceptible only to sensitive types.</p></blockquote></div><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>.... version of the idea that Jesus[christ] will return one day</p></blockquote></div><p>&quot;The world has changed; not everyone has been informed&quot;<br />~~carefulcarpenter</p>]]></content>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: 2012 Y2K Bust or Something More]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>[center]<span class="postimg"><img src="http://forum.noblerealms.org/pics/555_fleuryel.jpg" alt="http://forum.noblerealms.org/pics/555_fleuryel.jpg" /></span>[/center]</p><br /><br /><p><strong>From:</strong></p><p><a href="http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=4598">http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=4598</a>&nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>#7</strong></p><br /><br /><p>[center]<strong><span style="color: blue">[size=16]<br />2012 isn’t a ‘date’</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue">IT’s a Concept</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue">And That Concept Has Everything To Do With:</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: blue">The Ingression Of Novelty [/size]</span></strong>[/center]</p><br /><br /><p>[center]<strong><span style="color: green">[size=16]The Ingression Of Novelty</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: green">The Ingression Of Change</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: green">And That CHANGE Doesn&#039;t Discriminate</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: green">WHO Or WHAT</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: green">YOU Are.......</span></strong></p><br /><p><strong><span style="color: green">The Noocytes Of Freedom</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: green">Were Coded Pre-Birth</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: green">And YOU Brought That Influx</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: green">To This Zone</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: green">With INTENT[/size]</span></strong>[/center]</p><br /><br /><p>[center]<span class="postimg"><img src="http://forum.noblerealms.org/pics/555_mwsnap252.jpg" alt="http://forum.noblerealms.org/pics/555_mwsnap252.jpg" /></span>[/center]</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-11-16T08:44:06Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I &quot;just&quot; see it as an opportunity to expand one&#039;s awareness and realizing their place within Creation. More polarization, more awareness, more movement. The energetic forces are making themselves more apparent, both in global weather patterns and within the human mind, particularly during dreams where the conscious filter is bypassed. <br /> David Wilcock has said that those not ready for 4th-density harvest will probably continue life on 3D in some fashion and there&#039;s two (maybe 3 although the third is similar to the second)&nbsp; theories regarding this:</p><p> 1) Probably the most popular, is the idea of those &quot;left-behind&quot; will continue to exist on Earth but under ever-degrading circumstances. Possibly within underground structures, ultimately allowing them to send out a &quot;beacon-call&quot; using hyper-dimensional technology, allowing them contact with 4th Density Orion entities, with the Orion&#039;s taking them to their world. Far out eh? But it sounds like a good plot. I&#039;d pay to see a movie regarding this <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /><br /> 2) Those not harvestable will &quot;re-load&quot;, from their collective memories, an exact replica of their current state and place on Earth. In effect, nothing will happen, no Earth changes, no doomsday scenarios, nothing...everything will appear to be the same as governed by the collective timeline. Wilcock has suggested this (I completely forget the exact article, but look this topic up if you&#039;re interested in pursuing it further), but it raises several questions about: Would you still perceive of your friend in this &quot;reality&quot; even if he/she had advanced to 4D? If so, this would suggest that multiple &quot;versions&quot; of ourselves are existing simultaneously... you&#039;re still a rock, a tree, a wolf, a human, a 4th Density human, 5th density semi-human/semi-social memory complex, 6th density...right now! And each state has a simultaneous existence completely unaware of each &quot;other&quot;? Talk about mindblowing!<br /> 3) They&#039;ll go to another 3D planet.</p><p> And for those that are &quot;ready&quot;? A rapid change of awareness and perception to put it simply, but the complexities and timing is for the most part beyond our conscious faculties, and they will and do vary from individual. Some will use it to polarize in either direction, yet it may appear that nothing is happening based on their current placement on the &quot;timetable of awareness&quot;&nbsp; as set up by your Higher-Self. But things change, pathways are created, bridges are burned. New probabilities always arise, but our job is to navigate this sea of potential and by doing so, locate our own spiritual compass. <br /> 2012 I think will be a self-fulfilling prophecy, but what prophecy/event occurs without consciousness (&quot;Self&quot; or &quot;I&quot; however universal or individuated) tied at either end? Think about this statement-question. Yet there&#039;s also a large body of evidence to suggest that this &quot;Wave&quot; also carries with it tangible pieces of physical evidence to suggest that we&#039;re indeed entering into a region of higher energetic density, so the idea of 2012 is not entirely related to subjective social constructs.<br /> It will get harder in the coming years to see that nothing dramatic is in the works. <br /> But as always, work on the heart and let the heart work through you. Keep it real, always.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-11-15T22:58:46Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>that up there got me on a roll.&nbsp; i agree totally with all said.&nbsp; i have been planning my life around it for something to do though.&nbsp; most of us are transforming all the time and its been way more fun having a marker, or a benchmark &quot;time&quot; slot, if u will, for a linear buoy so to speak, since swimming in the sea of life.&nbsp; i noticed too i have frequently transposed 12/12/12 instead of 12/21/12 several times.&nbsp; which may jive with sensitive timespans as nexus said.&nbsp; that may be the period of most sensitivity for some of us &quot;types.&quot;&nbsp; even if its only a few days.&nbsp; whats sure (as in a sure thing) is that something is happening.&nbsp; yet as stated, oh so subtle.&nbsp; i know im gonna be disappointed tho, as to dates and happenstances and u can bet ill be on the net those nites desperately and fervently up all night, trying to discern whatever.&nbsp; just think of the possibilities and the accoutrements one might need/gather to be on hand.&nbsp; nothing like the nite of 12/31, 1999, which was kinda fun, yet stupid, as nothing grand or cosmic even happened.&nbsp; it was mundane as much of the deal is.&nbsp; i wasnt expecting meteor showers in the frontyard but i woulda really liked it.&nbsp; im so tired of the mundane.&nbsp; that whole Y2K gig was really even more mundane, in and of itself.&nbsp; my computer and all or any of that kinda stuff never made any mention technically of it.&nbsp; nothing happened.&nbsp; im preparing myself for nothing happening.&nbsp; like the thoughtful parent babysitting the feelings of its anticipating child.&nbsp; one doesnt want the poor baby to be too sad and dejected.&nbsp; self-soothing the soul, promising grand feats sooner or later.&nbsp; ah yes.&nbsp; meanwhile, self keeps changing and learning.&nbsp; thats all there is.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-11-15T19:45:51Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>nexus wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I honestly believe 21 DEC 2012 will pass like any other day.</p></blockquote></div><p>It probably will. And then, when people see that the dramatic predictions of the end of the world or other obvious physical changes have not come to pass, they might be tempted to think that the whole 2012 thing was bs all along, thus &quot;out there&quot; ideas lose even more credibility. But I personally believe that there WILL be changes around that date - it&#039;s just that they&#039;ll be subtle, and perceptible only to sensitive types.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>But i believe it&#039;s the false hierarchy who created the doctrine of a &#039;shift&#039; that will sweep up the faithfull into a new dimension and &#039;timeline&#039;.</p></blockquote></div><p>I thought the same thing. It&#039;s just a repackaged version of the idea that Jesus will return one day and automatically save all Christians while damning everyone else to hell, or that an alien spaceship will come and whisk away certain people and leave others behind. It encourages inertia and complacency. Any true transformation will come about when people transform themselves, in my humble opinion.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Daisy]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-11-15T13:24:53Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: 2012 Y2K Bust or Something More]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>We are always at some stage in some cycle.&nbsp; Some cycles are greater than others but all cycles happen within yet greater cycles.&nbsp; Seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, years, decades, centuries, millenia, ages, &#039;great cycles&#039;, yugas and who knows what greater and smaller.&nbsp; &nbsp;There&#039;s a point where they become in- finite where our consciousness can transcend the cycles of time and space altogether.&nbsp; Within the cycles of time and space, there are very significant cycles of opportunity given to incarnate souls to transcend those finite cycles.&nbsp; Specifically, &#039;ages&#039; are significant [aprox 2150 years in each of the astrological signs] as are &#039;great cycles&#039; which comprise a time cycle of twice around each of the zodiacal signs comprising ~25800 years.&nbsp; &nbsp;It is a time of special opportunity.</p><p>OPPORTUNITY =&nbsp; the OPEN PORT TO UNITY&nbsp; &nbsp;[port = door]</p><p>This cyclical opportunity for spiritual transcendence makes 2012 a standout date because the opportunity co- incides with the &#039;great cycle&#039; aforementioned.&nbsp; For a &#039;while&#039; before and a &#039;while&#039; after 2012 the opportunity climaxes.&nbsp; During this cusp of &#039;great cycles&#039; the spiritual hierarchy represent themselves in new and appealing ways to sensitive souls who are ready to&nbsp; transcend finite cycles and re- unite with spirit.&nbsp; Because there are dark, controlling forces in the physical and astral planes all of the polar opposites appear as do all the imposters of the light who try to obscure truth regarding this special time and the true nature of the opportunity it presents.&nbsp; They are desperate to prevent their favourite meals from transcending the material plane.</p><p>I honestly believe 21 DEC 2012 will pass like any other day.&nbsp; The real opportunity spans a greater time period than a day.[either side of that date]&nbsp; Also i honestly believe that transcendence does not happen TO any person at A particular time but happens through spiritual growth which takes time and application.&nbsp; &nbsp;As a selfless expression of their love, the true spiritual hierarchy are releasing more spiritual light into the earth at this time.&nbsp; &nbsp;But i believe it&#039;s the false hierarchy who created the doctrine of a &#039;shift&#039; that will sweep up the faithfull into a new dimension and &#039;timeline&#039;.&nbsp; They spread the idea that a certain day and date will impose such overwhelming change as to render the individual and the earth unrecognisable.&nbsp; This is a pie in the sky and i believe it can only lead to &quot;disappointment.&quot;&nbsp; The promised &quot;appointment&quot; with 21 DEC 2012 will not be met in the way it&#039;s heralds predict. </p><p>The opportunity is a wave of the holy spirit that for a time moves through the material planes and ourselves [in a more than usual way] and then moves on.&nbsp; While it waxes, we have the opportunity to surrender our souls to it and thereby be spiritually transformed.&nbsp; It&#039;s not easy to surrender the karmic patterns of the lower self.&nbsp; It&#039;s taken more than a day to create and will take more than a day to transmute.&nbsp; But it can be done in &#039;short&#039; order during times like this. [even in one incarnation].</p><p>The bible records somewhere :&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&quot;The days [of karmic toil]<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;shall be shortened <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;for the sake of the elect.&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp;[those who elect to raise the vibratory rate <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;of the electrons which compose the karmic bodies<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;by integrating with a new wave of the holy spirit]</p><p>And :&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &quot;Though their sins be as scarlet<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I will make them white as snow&quot; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; ie. </p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; [Though their auras be discolored by &#039;sin&#039;<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I [the inner spirit, will release the light for the transmutation of consciousness.]<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I [will restore thereby the true vibration of the 7 rainbow rays of the chakras]<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I [will blend these pure rays of consciousness into the white light]<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I [will restore the emanation of the soul with it&#039;s original garment of light]<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I [have called it the &#039;wedding garment&#039; and by the purity of that etheric body<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; the soul will unite with the christ- self and ascend to the Father (the I AM Presence) ]<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </p><p>These prophecies relate to the coming of the greater light at the end of an &#039;age&#039; and the end of a &#039;great cycle.&#039;&nbsp; It is dispensed to our higher- Self and released to our souls through the path of initiation.&nbsp; Personal realisation of the holy spirit can accelerate our soul vibration and shorten our sojourn in the material plane by the transmutation of the lower- self.&nbsp; As the alchemists changed lead into gold we can do the same with our consciousness through immersion in this wave of the holy spirit.&nbsp; We must <em>become</em> it on it&#039;s way through, be resurrected by it,&nbsp; and move on with it into the infinite cycles of God consciousness.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[nexus]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-11-15T10:59:41Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: 2012 Y2K Bust or Something More]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Tinker, I think we all wonder the same thing.&nbsp; Some teachers say that it will just be another day.&nbsp; &nbsp;I don&#039;t know how much research you&#039;ve done on the subject but&nbsp; the difference this time is the verified astronomical alignment of our solar system with the galactic center of the Milky Way which occurs only every 26,000 years on the winter solstice at 11:11 universal time on 12/21/ 2012; which is the well hyped end of the cyclical Mayan Calendar; also the end of the Hindu Kali Yuga cycle, and I think there is the Tibetan calendar too.&nbsp; &nbsp;And there are other rare astronomical occurrences happening also at this time that my beloved better educated members can chime in on here cause I can&#039;t remember.</p><p>There is so much info out there Tinker&nbsp; but the bottom line is, nobody really knows exactly what will happen.&nbsp; But the teachers all say the same thing - stay grounded to yourself and have no fear.&nbsp; Be as the light.&nbsp; And remember love no matter what.</p><p>Also, another fascinating element of the whole 2012 issue which is my personal favorite is the late great Terence McKenna and his Timewave Zero theory.&nbsp; Are you familiar with that?&nbsp; He was a man before his time.&nbsp; Back in the 1970&#039;s, in the infancy of computers, he had a vision of the 64 hexagrams of the I Ching which he translated that into that Theory.&nbsp; He felt compelled to analyze the I Ching and came up with Timewave Zero.&nbsp; You have to go on Youtube or Google and find it.</p><p>It tells of accelerating time and its consequences.&nbsp; It&#039;s just a chart with up and down zig zags with historical events pointed out that correspond to his theory.&nbsp; I&#039;m sorry, I can&#039;t explain it any better than that.&nbsp; But his chart ends right around 12/21 2012.</p><br /><p>****and Dr. McKenna at the time had no knowledge of the Mayan calendar****</p><br /><p>Love,&nbsp; Ellen</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[fivecatz]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-11-15T03:21:40Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Is all the hype about 2012 passively going to pass by as did Y2K or is there more?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-11-15T02:13:22Z</updated>
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