Bhang - I'm not holding my breath on this disclosure thing as I don't think a real discosure will come out of the US or any western nation anytime soon other than a carefully staged set up to justify the space weapons programs (as you said) and set up any hollywood style productions that they might have in the pipeline and need to use. Most likely I think (similar to what  Montalk said) to set up defence against any good entities out there that might be planning the real contact. They need to stop that at all cost.
We are being set up as usual (with the familiar smell of a rat - or is that a grey?) and time is fast running out for them. Too much is at stake for the elite and the real truth is so much more than just - okidoki folks guess what,  aliens do exist. What about all those missing adults and children and the fiddling and terrorising. Let's see the spin on that one. Maybe they will try and blame the good aliens for all these acts and portray the greys as our brotherly watchers.

The type of announcement that most of us are waiting for might come out of some other unexpected area of the world or I think that ultimately something will happen that will be impossible to deny or cover up and the carpet will be royally whipped out from under the elites hooves. This is all too much like a low budget alien tv drama and no doubt they won't go quietly - there will be plenty of kicking and screaming before we get to the next stage which is soon I hope.

All the more reason to laugh, have humor, and not take their supposed pissed off concern so seriously.    It's all a game (gone awry).  Nothing more.

I would like to view life as a game, except I think I may have already lost my marbles.   Of course, people that know me might suggest that I never had any to start with. 

Let's keep aiming for that.  I know that I've been getting a huge amount of paranormal / E.T. type of interference in the things I've been involved with lately.   That tells me "they" are really pissed and really concerned, which means that we are doing some damage.   All the more reason to stay focused and redouble our efforts.

All the more reason to laugh, have humor, and not take their supposed pissed off concern so seriously.    It's all a game (gone awry).  Nothing more.

I have a feeling that the scenario is not yet fully decided, and that public reaction and leakage of information damaging to the agenda is continuously analyzed to adjust the end game. Maybe if enough awareness spreads, chances of success drop so low that they would have to call off the whole thing and go home.

Let's keep aiming for that.  I know that I've been getting a huge amount of paranormal / E.T. type of interference in the things I've been involved with lately.   That tells me "they" are really pissed and really concerned, which means that we are doing some damage.   All the more reason to stay focused and redouble our efforts.

Why would the US build up weapons to defend against aliens, if those aliens are supposed to be our protectors?

Maybe some aliens will be 'enemies' and others will be 'saviors.' I use quotes, but maybe that's the way it will really be.

That is one likely scenario, for the military to have some staged skirmishes against hostile aliens (played by reptilians) to create the common enemy prophesied by Ronald Reagan, then to push planetary alliance with "good" aliens as our only means of beating the reptilian threat.

Another possibility is that the development of military space weapons is just a ruse to support the image of a paranoid Cabal of human-supremacists using the military-industrial complex to keep earth from contact with "good" aliens who are trying to lead mankind into the golden age. Another spin on the same deception is the idea that hostile reptilians have made secret negotiations with a Cabal and given them the technology to develop a space defense system against the "good" aliens.

At least, these are the scenarios presented in various alien disinfo publications I have come across. There is too much awareness out there of negative aliens existing, so the alien agenda would have to deflect this by devising a scapegoat to take all the blame and leave the rest of the alien deceivers with a clean image.

I have a feeling that the scenario is not yet fully decided, and that public reaction and leakage of information damaging to the agenda is continuously analyzed to adjust the end game. Maybe if enough awareness spreads, chances of success drop so low that they would have to call off the whole thing and go home. Or maybe someone can just upload a virus to their mothership

This is a mega issue

I agree that the alien/alien disclosure issue is indeed a mega issue.  I think that is is likely that when the existence of aliens is officially introduced to the public on a broad scale through the news media, there will likely be a major slant of deception.

I personally feel that such a broad official disclosure will be much more likely to happen after a major economic collapse.  That way the population will be much more open for "programming".

Of course, unofficial disclosure is already happening in a big way on a daily basis through the entertainment media.

This is a mega issue that is being spun for the military so they can build their space weapons, space bases and to legitimize new weapons that will be used against people, not aliens.

Keep an eye out for more information because this story is so quite that there must be a lot more to it.

If this is true, then wouldn't that preclude the whole "the aliens are your friends, let them eat your children" scheme some of us have been predicting? Why would the US build up weapons to defend against aliens, if those aliens are supposed to be our protectors?

Maybe some aliens will be 'enemies' and others will be 'saviors.' I use quotes, but maybe that's the way it will really be. For me, the key to discernment is the technology they use. I think the 'good' ETs would use tech that spins and seems somehow natural and cosmic, whereas the negs will use tech more like your own. I have no idea why I say this, other than it just feels right to me.

But, anyway, for God's sake, lets see some friggin' aliens! Then I can say to all my alien-denier friends, "see, I'm not so crazy!"

People had to go through the Freedom of Information Act to access all this information!

Also see this link for another PDF entitled: "Release on press conference"

http://www.freedomofinfo.org/media/PRESS_ADVISORY.pdf

Keep an eye out for more information because this story is so quite that there must be a lot more to it.

The more I try to influence others the more I realise how uninfluential I am. I am happy now to be another nobody focusing inward on the connection to the All. To me the outward is just the illusion or the projection of the inner - therefore not the easiest thing to influence by that type of direct approach.

Back to the original thread - my original intent: I am putting money on Larry King going live very soon and dramatically reaching behind his head and unzipping himself from head to toe and a giant angry dragon stepping out and then pouncing on Shirley Maclaine. He begins eating her on live television to the horror of the cameraman while Shirley manages to let out a choked scream of 'Wait I'm one of you, you knucklehead' whereapon she slaps him in his scaly face with her reptilian tail that was under the desk all the time.
I hope I don't lose my money I have rather a lot riding on this.

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They're in a total mess from our 3rd density perspective; they apparently are content with this mess that they are in. I.e. Being STS.

I cant help but wonder if showing them another path is a violation of free-will?

If they didn't necessarily "ask" for it are we supposed to show them another path?

I would think that would also be of STS orientation. This is just my understanding of free-will and I cant say for sure if "this is how it is, so believe me!"

Not to side track this thread onto an STO/STS discussion, since that's already been covered in a bunch of threads over the years, but just wanted to say this:

While I for one get where you're coming from, and agree with the C's quote in the context of those who, for instance, like to "love bomb" unsuspecting targets, projecting love energy at their enemies in hopes of converting them, or continually forcing one's presense and "good deeds" on another "out of love" when the other party clearly didn't ask for it and probably doesn't want it, I do think there is one clarification that should be mentioned.  And this doesn't go for the lizzies per se, speaking more along the lines of people. But hey, maybe it'll go for the lizzies too, you never know.

But say you're an STS take-take-take type of person who's self absorbed and likes to horde your stuff and not share, and doesn't give of themselves to others, and/or you're judgmental and critical and harsh with others, with a penchant for tossing out derogatory names at people you disagree with to trash them and drag them down, or even worse, you go out of your way to trash others because deep down you get off on hurting people, etc. and the myriad of other STS traits people can display in this reality.   Then, through your every day life dealings, you cross path with a coworker, a neighbor, somebody who behaves the opposite of that.  They're the sort that would give you the clothes off their back and not worry about it.   You make a mistake and are expecting them to berate you for it the way you would berate and judge and harshly condemn others for making mistakes....but they don't.  They're easy going and understanding and instead try to make you feel better and to not worry about it.   You're having a bad day and are in a cranky, low energy mood....and where everybody else gets annoyed at you for being annoyed, they instead just look at you with an amused, knowing look.  They don't take it personally or tell you to f*ck off and walk away and make things worse.

Just by being themselves, and being who they naturally are, STO inclined, it's showing you another way, without violating any freewill.  Whether you choose to see it and be taken in by it is up to you.   Some will.  Most probably won't.  But for those who will, they'll be taken in by how that person made them feel good with their opposite way of being.....you know, it sure was a lot nicer to make a mistake around them then it was with others.....they didn't cuss you out and call you every name in the book......in fact, they were empathetic and understanding......and there you were at work and discovered that you left your wallet at home and had no money for lunch....and they gave you 5 bucks and said don't worry about it.....and you might start to think, hey, you know.....I don't know....maybe I'd like to be more like them.  Be that way with others the way they were with me....it's a lot nicer and life seems a lot easier!   

Some truly hardcore STS'ers won't be taken in by it, and if anything, will try to take advantage of it.  But for those who are on the fence, those who've had upbringings that drained all their energy and caused them to not develop well, but who are still good people at the core, they very well may see it and be taken in by it, and find themselves trying to be more like them and emulating that way of being instead.  But no freewill violations took place.  It was all still a choice, just by watching somebody else in action, being who they are.

Or, as somebody I know was saying recently - STS is the default in this reality.  STO is a choice. 

Which means, something has to cause beings to want to make that choice - but it should ultimately be a choice, not a freewill violation.  With lizzies, they seem to be lacking their higher centers, from what I understand, so they're probably completely incapable of feeling empathy or understanding that pain is not a good thing for the victim, or understanding the idea of comraderie, and helping others just because you want to and because it makes you feel good.  They're concerned with self preservation and are wired to feed on fear and terror and pain.  So I would think that a being who doesn't have an activated heart chakra would be kind of screwed in terms of being able to make a choice to be STO.   STO seems to stem from having higher centers.  Which is why many humans probably can't become that way either, if they too are "spiritually stunted."

Anyway, that's my 2 cents.

Good observation Lyra. 

I guess in the grand scheme of things if an Individual were to act naturally from their heart chakra, or higher centers, or be more inclined toward an STO awareness then that would not be a violation.  But more so showing others different paths that exist without having the agenda to "convert" one another. But if left up to free-will and choice, the STS inclined individual may begin to see things in a different light.

Thanks for your input!

They're in a total mess from our 3rd density perspective; they apparently are content with this mess that they are in. I.e. Being STS.

I cant help but wonder if showing them another path is a violation of free-will?

If they didn't necessarily "ask" for it are we supposed to show them another path?

I would think that would also be of STS orientation. This is just my understanding of free-will and I cant say for sure if "this is how it is, so believe me!"

Not to side track this thread onto an STO/STS discussion, since that's already been covered in a bunch of threads over the years, but just wanted to say this:

While I for one get where you're coming from, and agree with the C's quote in the context of those who, for instance, like to "love bomb" unsuspecting targets, projecting love energy at their enemies in hopes of converting them, or continually forcing one's presense and "good deeds" on another "out of love" when the other party clearly didn't ask for it and probably doesn't want it, I do think there is one clarification that should be mentioned.  And this doesn't go for the lizzies per se, speaking more along the lines of people. But hey, maybe it'll go for the lizzies too, you never know.

But say you're an STS take-take-take type of person who's self absorbed and likes to horde your stuff and not share, and doesn't give of themselves to others, and/or you're judgmental and critical and harsh with others, with a penchant for tossing out derogatory names at people you disagree with to trash them and drag them down, or even worse, you go out of your way to trash others because deep down you get off on hurting people, etc. and the myriad of other STS traits people can display in this reality.   Then, through your every day life dealings, you cross path with a coworker, a neighbor, somebody who behaves the opposite of that.  They're the sort that would give you the clothes off their back and not worry about it.   You make a mistake and are expecting them to berate you for it the way you would berate and judge and harshly condemn others for making mistakes....but they don't.  They're easy going and understanding and instead try to make you feel better and to not worry about it.   You're having a bad day and are in a cranky, low energy mood....and where everybody else gets annoyed at you for being annoyed, they instead just look at you with an amused, knowing look.  They don't take it personally or tell you to f*ck off and walk away and make things worse.

Just by being themselves, and being who they naturally are, STO inclined, it's showing you another way, without violating any freewill.  Whether you choose to see it and be taken in by it is up to you.   Some will.  Most probably won't.  But for those who will, they'll be taken in by how that person made them feel good with their opposite way of being.....you know, it sure was a lot nicer to make a mistake around them then it was with others.....they didn't cuss you out and call you every name in the book......in fact, they were empathetic and understanding......and there you were at work and discovered that you left your wallet at home and had no money for lunch....and they gave you 5 bucks and said don't worry about it.....and you might start to think, hey, you know.....I don't know....maybe I'd like to be more like them.  Be that way with others the way they were with me....it's a lot nicer and life seems a lot easier!   

Some truly hardcore STS'ers won't be taken in by it, and if anything, will try to take advantage of it.  But for those who are on the fence, those who've had upbringings that drained all their energy and caused them to not develop well, but who are still good people at the core, they very well may see it and be taken in by it, and find themselves trying to be more like them and emulating that way of being instead.  But no freewill violations took place.  It was all still a choice, just by watching somebody else in action, being who they are.

Or, as somebody I know was saying recently - STS is the default in this reality.  STO is a choice. 

Which means, something has to cause beings to want to make that choice - but it should ultimately be a choice, not a freewill violation.  With lizzies, they seem to be lacking their higher centers, from what I understand, so they're probably completely incapable of feeling empathy or understanding that pain is not a good thing for the victim, or understanding the idea of comraderie, and helping others just because you want to and because it makes you feel good.  They're concerned with self preservation and are wired to feed on fear and terror and pain.  So I would think that a being who doesn't have an activated heart chakra would be kind of screwed in terms of being able to make a choice to be STO.   STO seems to stem from having higher centers.  Which is why many humans probably can't become that way either, if they too are "spiritually stunted."

Anyway, that's my 2 cents.

Outerspace

So, we leave the Reptilians and the Lizzies a lone.  They'll have to figure this out on their own, I guess if we showed them the door, all they would be rather focusing is the room they're in. Sounds like expectation though, but they do have less freewill than STO..

The blog said that being in positivity (4d STO candidate) would attract the ones who are in negativity, because they don't understand you.. Which they will mock you and laugh at you, but really deep down, they want to be healed - They don't want to be themselves.

But I guess this doesn't mean exactly the same thing for STS or STO, but rather a way more different way - that would show a greater difference in a higher awareness. I guess they can't be helped, rather they think they are helped themselves.

What stands out the most for me here is this part: A: Because an STS vehicle does not learn to be an STO candidate by determining the needs of another.

This is the point.