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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Transcix wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hmmm. I don&#039;t know. Are you thinking too much?</p><p>and i mean that helpfully lol</p></blockquote></div><p>Not at all.&nbsp; Personally speaking, the core will hold.&nbsp; I&#039;ve prepared myself.&nbsp; I know balance.&nbsp; I have chosen my path and know the vector.</p><p>Now, with time on my hands I seek out other perspectives.&nbsp; Look through others&#039; eyes.&nbsp; Take on other belief structures.&nbsp; Explore different levels.&nbsp; Go where I have not gone.&nbsp; Seek the balance of multiple other perspectives internally.&nbsp; Expand beyond what I know to be me.&nbsp; Become that which I&#039;m not.&nbsp; Combine the discordant.&nbsp; Straddle the paradoxes.</p><p>I will not have thought too much until I have filled the infinity within me.&nbsp; I will stop at the end of eternity.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[z3n3rg]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-11-06T01:57:11Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Silicon based..?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Soul Talk in this Talk by Dr. Mitchell Gibson:</p><p><a href="http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/mgibson.htm">http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/me … gibson.htm</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[DanB]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-11-06T00:55:17Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hmm... Here&#039;s what I thought about recently..</p><p>I will have to accept everyone&#039;s personal expression and relationship with existence then. I&#039;m glad everyone is different in opinions because think of the STS going on if everyone would just agree on everything. It&#039;ll be like a pleasure nightmare. </p><p>Though I&#039;m not going to let anyone here who&#039;s going to mislead me to my personal goal. To me, I think there is no separation, just realization. </p><p>I know it&#039;s <em>not</em> going to feel &#039;good&#039; to me, but everyone else would. Yup, to become STO and march onto the higher awareness in my lives. I have met people who were very like STO... They were very flexible, they didn&#039;t care about how they felt, they made me glad as they shared the kindness. I wish I was more spiritually mature back then, because all I cared about was how I felt. </p><p>But now, those people I had met - A real, good example if I ever want to understand how to be so...</p><p>I don&#039;t see them anymore, I&#039;m here and the spiritual journey of mine started.</p><br /><p>So, I accept you whoever you are different or not, but I will let my heart to be my own compass.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Spi]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-11-06T00:34:14Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm. I don&#039;t know. Are you thinking too much?</p><p>and i mean that helpfully lol</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Transcix]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-11-06T00:12:59Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Silicon based..?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I may be wrong, but it seems to me that there has been push to confuse the terms used for speaking about the different levels.&nbsp; Just look at Montalk&#039;s list and as he says &quot;... and many more&quot;.&nbsp; Then you have newcomers on the scene like &quot;Destini&quot; that speak of the soul as a throw away part used for enslavement.&nbsp; That really reinforced for me the notion that there&#039;s a definite push to not recognize any level above the next.&nbsp; Which makes sense if those currently enslaving humanity wish to do so on the next level.</p><p>No, I wasn&#039;t upset.&nbsp; I was genuinely thinking that yea I should&#039;ve asked because it seems like every other new-age text uses the terms in a different way.&nbsp; I personally think referring to density levels is much easier for cross-communication of ideas but there&#039;s not many texts that use &quot;density&quot;.&nbsp; Most new-age texts use &quot;dimension&quot;.</p><p>I wasn&#039;t even referencing your remark &quot;there&#039;s no such thing as soul&quot; because I&#039;ve come to know your viewpoint to some extent and recognized that phrase in the context of what you have previously written.</p><p>Beyond the enormous fact that we don&#039;t have first hand <em>conscious</em> memory of the structure of this universe, the lack of a core naming convention makes it increasingly difficult to communicate since everyone comes with their own definitions and biases.&nbsp; And it doesn&#039;t appear that it&#039;s going to get any better going forward.&nbsp; In a very real sense it does appear that it&#039;s going to come down to the individual and their own personal expression and relationship with existence.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[z3n3rg]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-11-05T23:48:31Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Silicon based..?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Oh haha I just thought you were upset with my tone or something, like you &quot;should have asked&quot;, so I then tried to make sure I wasn&#039;t being misunderstood. I thought you thought I was picking at semantics.</p><p>It&#039;s never easy.. it&#039;s true.. there are many ways to say it.. it&#039;s a subtle difference.. but I have to ask myself, within the confines of language, which way of saying it is most efficient, most productive to express Truth.. ironically if people didn&#039;t use the term &quot;soul&quot; so haphazardly then I would not really object to its use! In a way I *was* just objecting to semantics.. less for this discussion in particular than for the precedent that it sets.. and what readers take away from the notions of &quot;soul&quot;... personally I feel that much Eastern spirituality practitioners abstain from getting to heavily into such &quot;picky&quot; debates about semantics and Maya.. but from my perspective that is a shortcoming because it&#039;s important to express Truth to the West and you can&#039;t turn a blind eye as if you are &#039;above&#039; the fight.... I saw the Dali Llama on Sunday Night edition of CBC Newsworld yesterday and it was amazing how adapt he was to Western media type interviewing with all the between the lines political speak.. he really impressed the anchors and made some very important statements without actually &quot;saying&quot; them, if you know what I mean about all the &#039;double talk&#039; in the news.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Transcix]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-11-05T22:20:43Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yea see, that&#039;s why I get confused.</p><p>I was using the C&#039;s naming convention (and others I&#039;ve read)...</p><p><em>A: But it is the soul that matters, not the body. The body dies not the soul. <br />A: You are energy. There is an energy that comes from the soul and body connection; later the body is used for parts.</em></p><br /><p>Transcix, I was just attempting to answer at the same level the question was asked, not set up a question to leave an opening for a dissertation on how I view the nature of consciousness.&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-11-05T15:15:13Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Silicon based..?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hmm... I think the Orion STS are humans that had dominant Grey DNA, but they have mouths and nose.</p><p>Also, Transcix, what about those 7th density beings that exists in pure spirit?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-11-05T10:55:23Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Silicon based..?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Lol z3n3rg it&#039;s not like that, all I mean is that we *are* the soul and who is the ego is the only question, right? That&#039;s what changes, the ego... and so what is this &quot;soul&quot; that we are, it is the Spirit that Montalk refers to here, I prefer to call it consciousness, and myself an individual agent of consciousness. So I mean &quot;what is the soul?&quot; is like saying what part of ME is fundamental that allows me to live in this physical body? The question is who is the ego because the soul knows very well who it is... indeed we must ever move towards our doubts, insecurities, anxieties, unknowns, and fears.. this is the only way to evolve.. you see what I&#039;m saying?.. the only thing to ask who we are is the opportunity and/or potential of what we can become.. so I&#039;m saying that the soul doesn&#039;t exist.. right I&#039;m saying that it&#039;s not like we are going in a line and a line is only ever a series of dots so now we are a dot and now and now and now and now and each time it&#039;s a new dot to infinitely minute extents... rather we CHANGE constantly.. and as all is interconnected even the smallest change or a change to one of our parts changes our WHOLE.. but still the change is a small one and it is the same whole.. so really I&#039;m talking about change of PATTERNS... the soul is a pattern, you are a pattern of consciousness, one with much knowledge I should say. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>Anyways I&#039;ve gotten off track but perhaps this does help to elaborate as to what is the &quot;soul&quot;... basically we all have infinite abundance of energy to work with.. no shortage of battery power in terms of our eternal/immortal existences as universal beings, individual agents of consciousness.. but the thing is that it is not a matter of how much power one may GET but rather of how much power one may HANDLE.. our energy source.. I like to call it spark.. that which is in the vein of simultaneous oneness and difference a piece of Spirit or as I call it Nothing (just like infinity plus or minus anything is still infinity).. our spark.. it is not only energy but consciousness, but completely impersonal consciousness except in terms of considering it as a whole (where the whole is greater than the sum of its parts) then all sparks across eternity and then (a lot of) some = God.. which is perfectly logical since god is non-local and timeless as so are our sparks in essence so even if all sparks are spread across through eternity, still God can exist in individuality not spread across all molecules if you see what I mean... but OK so the spark is consciousness, and unconscious consciousness.. it is like a vector of our individual evolution.. when it breaks from Spirit it is given some desire to work with, that is, infantile consciousness, this is you, desire.. in the human form desire can go up through the chakras and through practice and experience the lessons of love wisdom and power may be learnt (mastered) from the human experience.. and desire rises through the chakras and into greater things, and produces an individual agent of consciousness.. and what is consciousness if not pure vector.. as I am the change I wish to see in the world, so too in a universal sense as an individual agent of consciousness am I the change I wish to see in the universe.. only ever always, whether I like it or not! lol...</p><p>But so the spark is infinitely efficient, structured, as it applies to consciousness since it is so, in enlightened fashion... hence we are all innately enlightened.. what else but the infinitely amazing (I don&#039;t even know what word, this is something for science to one day investigate when they can lol) enlightenment can Spirit/Nothing be?.. so not only do you have infinite abundance of energy from this spark of Nothing and it is a matter of how much you can HANDLE.. so too in the same vein is the angle that you need to focus on in terms of evolution of your individual agency of consciousness one of enlightenment, for to be able to handle pure divine/enlightened spark.. let&#039;s just say that if you&#039;re evil it blinds you and if you&#039;re really evil it just burns you off, and if you&#039;re good then it empowers you and you become the light and proceed towards the darkness for your natural thing is indeed to SHINE.. you don&#039;t look at it otherwise, oppositely, stuck in the riddle of duality, in other words, once you &quot;get&quot; it, once you realize your HigherSelf.. then you can say that you *ARE* Nothing.. for you have realized an identity of personality to wrap around your spark that is maintainable truly eternally!.. and to explain more on this point, the universe must be benevolent like all this by nature, things must be mutually helpful (complimenting) if not carefully balanced, ever evolving as opposed to stagnating where change is the only constant.. so this is why more evil and egocentric things to not jive with the spark.. because simply this is against universal modality of operation.. if all where vectored as such.. if Nothing/Spirit were as such, then we would not exist at all in the first place, it would not be a sustainable system of universal procession at all. This is why you must go with the flow with your immortality, your spark is indeed a matter of knowledge, power, and responsibility. Over incarnations which is sometimes the time it takes you to, you finally develop watermarks or like soul(spark) habits/tendencies that function well, but the bad stuff you don&#039;t keep.. sometimes you can do it in one incarnation and not need to reincarnate again.. or sometimes you may choose to reincarnate with knowledge of who you are.. but if it is your CHOICE, which is the point, then it is because you have devised a fractal pattern of sovereign conscious individuality of personality for yourSelf. Because it works with your spark, so it&#039;s allowed.</p><p>I like to look at it as life is art and art is ANYTHING</p><br /><p>.</p><br /><p>.</p><br /><p>.</p><br /><p>.</p><br /><p>.</p><br /><p>.</p><br /><p>.</p><br /><p>...that you can get away with!:D</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Transcix]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-11-05T03:18:13Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Silicon based..?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s just a matter of convention. Many different conventions:</p><p>Soul&nbsp; &nbsp;|&nbsp; &nbsp;Body<br />Spirit&nbsp; |&nbsp; Soul&nbsp; |&nbsp; Body<br />Mind&nbsp; | Body | Spirit<br />Physical | Etheric | Astral | Spirit<br />Physical | Etheric | Astral | Mental | Causal </p><p>... and many more</p><p>Pick what works for you. I pick the one that has the fewest number of necessary divisions.&nbsp; For me, that would be:</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; body&nbsp; |&nbsp; soul = etheric + astral | spirit</p><p>Body is physical,&nbsp; etheric and astral are nonphysical husks of the spirit that serve as an interface between it and the body (and are discarded after death) and spirit is the core of individualized consciousness that reincarnates. </p><p>The etheric and astral bodies can pass through solid walls. If they were made of something like silicon, it wouldn&#039;t be regular silicon. Even if you vaporized silicon, it wouldn&#039;t able to pass through the walls of a bottle, same if you turned it into a plasma. So if that is true, it might be some higher vibrational form of matter. The only reference I can remember off hand that might tie into this, would be the Cassiopaean&#039;s claiming that certain higher density beings (Orion STS) eat quartz pellets by demolecularizing them inside their mouths. Quartz = silicon dioxide.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Q: What do the Orions eat? <br />A: Crystalline tablets, which are aspirated through oral <br />demolecularization. <br />Q: Are these crystalline tablets like rocks, like our idea of crystals? <br />A: Picture a sparkling polished oval bead. <br />Q: What is the chemical composition? <br />A: Quartz at the 3rd power compared to Terran samples.</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[montalk]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-11-05T01:37:51Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Silicon based..?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>From montalk&#039;s site.. Soul is etheric and astral.</p><p>* the developed human individual is composed of physical body, soul (etheric and astral body) and spirit (volitional and mental body)</p><p>They aren&#039;t two different separate bodies, just together to make up as the so-called &#039;soul&#039;.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-11-05T01:15:59Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Oh yea, thanks Transcix.&nbsp; I forgot the recent push to associate &quot;soul&quot; with the astral and/or 4d energy bodies.&nbsp; I should&#039;ve asked.</p><p>The next question would be what do you, Spi, consider the difference between &quot;etheric&quot; and &quot;astral&quot;?</p><p>Not that my answers would be any better or nearer the truth but at least we&#039;ll be on the same page.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[z3n3rg]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-11-05T00:43:53Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Etheric body and Astral body.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Spi]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-11-04T23:38:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Silicon based..?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>There is no such thing as a soul! <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> (yes I enjoy imagining people&#039;s reactions to this teehee)</p><p>Could you make your question a bit more specific?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Transcix]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-11-04T22:59:43Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Silicon based..?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Can&#039;t say I know with any certainty but from everything I&#039;ve read the soul vibrates at too high a frequency to be considered a material element.</p><p>Most of the sources I&#039;ve read state that the soul is light but not the same light we know of here in the material realm.</p><p>It&#039;s stated that the soul is 2 realms above matter.&nbsp; Material Realm - Energy Realm - Soul Realm.&nbsp; Maybe we could use the equation {S=ec²} or Soul equals energy times the speed of light squared.</p><p>My own thoughts are that soul is a manifested complex thought form of the infinite unmanifested field sometimes called The Void.&nbsp; It resides outside space-time and is not subject to any of the known Fundamental Forces.&nbsp; By use of space/time-suits called human bodies the soul can interact within the space-time bubble.&nbsp; And by the soul&#039;s interaction with the material realm an energy body is created that becomes a time/space-suit for interaction in the energy realm.</p><p>But I really don&#039;t know.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[z3n3rg]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-11-03T17:38:03Z</updated>
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