Noble Realms — Cell phone radiation

Re: Cell phone radiation

null@example.com (ape-x) — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:32:54 +0000

That was a mini rant wasn't it?
I think I was more pissed about the hypocrisy in omitting various items in recycling programs. And not being a cellphone owner, I tend to think of it as "everyone else's problem" that could become mine.

I'm not about to find solutions to every thing that irks me, but I could certainly do more.

I will definetely pass on that info to many people, thanks for the links lyra.

Re: Cell phone radiation

null@example.com (lyra) — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:24:27 +0000

ape-x wrote:

This is only semi-related, but I came across an incredible number today.
426,000.
That's the number of cell phones discarded in the US... per DAY.
300 per minute, and roughly 150 million per year. We're talking about some of the most hazardous 'household' waste there is.
Are there any guidelines for disposal? Nope.
Electronics recycling centers? Very few.
Will the Garbage Gestapo make your life hell for improperly recycling anything and everything else? Oh yes.
Plastic, for instance, doesn't biodegrade. But neither does it leach lead, lithium, cadmium, mercury, and a plethora of other significantly more toxic compounds.
Once again, this proves that municipal recycling regulations are only about the money. And yes, they WILL go through your trash. I've recently seen this is magnitudes more extreme in the UK. They'll stop at nothing to create revenue from fines.
"Can I interest you in a decently paid career in dumpster diving?"
"Oh yeah!
I can overlook that it's a total biohazard!
I get to go through people's shit?
Sweet! Sign me up."
Anyway, this goes far beyond cellphones, there's all kinds of E-waste, and no good way to get rid of any of it. But give us the nonstop guilt trip about mixing up paper and metal in the bins, and please go ahead and fine us to death....
J

We can complain about all the problems in the world til the cows come home, or we can do something about them. I don't know about you, but complaining about stuff and then ending on a flat note with no solutions being offered doesn't work for me.

Do a Google on "cell phone recycling." There are programs set up where people will take your used cell phones. Start promoting this out in the world. Don't know of any where you live? Then start one yourself. !! You know that famous saying...Be the change that you want to see. When I did a Google search one of the first companies that came up was this one:

http://www.eco-cell.org/index.asp

From what I've skimmed so far, it seems that it works like this: They provide the downloadable promotional materials, flyers, brochures, etc. for you to use to advertise your cause, you go out there and set up the collections in your community, gather up people's old cell phones that they give to you, then mail the cell phones to Eco Cell - using the pre-paid labels that they provide, so, they're apparently paying YOU to mail the stuff to them, it won't come out of your pocket - and once a month they send out a check to everybody who's got more than $10 worth of electronics materials turned in to them.

Sounds like a great program to me, I'm going to look into this, make sure there aren't any catches or details I may have missed. (I'm at work now and didn't get the chance to fully read every section, plan to do so when I get home later.) But from what I did see, they admit that 90% of the money they make goes towards paying out people who turn in cell phones to them via community collections, but they apparently don't care. It's about getting this dangerous stuff out of the environment, from what I read.

Anyway, let's start looking for solutions people, do our small part to start rectifying the problems and "being that change that we want to see."

(btw, didn't stress earlier when I first posted this at work that eco-cell works via fundraisers and non-profits, as you'll see. here on this end I do volunteer work for a local non-profit, so it can be a neat situation of recycling cell phones and then the money you get paid goes towards the non-profit/group/cause/organization you're raising money for, everybody wins. I'm doing google searches to see what people's experiences are with eco-cell. I did see that the lowest amount they pay out for phones is .45, which is low. Say you only managed to get 10 or 20 phones total at .45 a phone, worst case scenario, you're not going to raise very much money. But they claim to go as high as $15...so I'm trying to figure out if they really do actually pay that kind of money. Other than that, everything else looks good. Free downloadable materials and collection bins, free shipping/pick up of the phones, etc. It's not going to save the entire planet, but it's at least doing what we can, doing our small part. And that's all anybody can do. Just do what you can, and pass on the word so others do what they can too.)

Re: Cell phone radiation

null@example.com (ape-x) — Thu, 18 Oct 2007 23:21:21 +0000

This is only semi-related, but I came across an incredible number today.

426,000.

That's the number of cell phones discarded in the US... per DAY.

300 per minute, and roughly 150 million per year. We're talking about some of the most hazardous 'household' waste there is.

Are there any guidelines for disposal? Nope.

Electronics recycling centers? Very few.

Will the Garbage Gestapo make your life hell for improperly recycling anything and everything else? Oh yes.

Plastic, for instance, doesn't biodegrade. But neither does it leach lead, lithium, cadmium, mercury, and a plethora of other significantly more toxic compounds.

Once again, this proves that municipal recycling regulations are only about the money. And yes, they WILL go through your trash. I've recently seen this is magnitudes more extreme in the UK. They'll stop at nothing to create revenue from fines.

"Can I interest you in a decently paid career in dumpster diving?"

"Oh yeah!
I can overlook that it's a total biohazard!
I get to go through people's shit?
Sweet! Sign me up."

Anyway, this goes far beyond cellphones, there's all kinds of E-waste, and no good way to get rid of any of it. But give us the nonstop guilt trip about mixing up paper and metal in the bins, and please go ahead and fine us to death....

Re: Cell phone radiation

null@example.com (visavis) — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 16:16:54 +0000

This is interesting & well written, thanks for posting it. I've highlighted some stuff below. Signs of a societal madness I'd say...!

Understanding what happened at Likely Mountain is critical to understanding the public health threat posed by RF/microwave radiation in the United States. The families of Garcia and Jasso, plus previous lookout workers and multitudes of tourists who visited Likely Mountain for camping and sightseeing, were beamed by the same kind of high frequency radiation that blasts from tens of thousands of neighborhood cell towers and rooftop antennas erected across America for wireless communications. The city of San Francisco, with an area of only seven square miles, has over 2,500 licensed cell phone antennas positioned at 530 locations throughout the city. In practical terms, this city, like thousands of others, is being wave-nuked 24 hours a day.

The FCC's disastrous authority is calcified by the Telecommunications Act (TCA) of 1996. The telecom industry is infamous for lavish "donations" which keep legislators on its leash. Anticipating a national radiation health crisis and the public backlash that would follow, the telecom lobby blatantly bought itself a provision in the law that prohibits state and local governments from considering environmental (health) effects when siting personal wireless service facilities so long as "...such facilities comply with the FCC's regulations concerning such emissions." Many say the TCA insures that America's war on cancer will never be won, while protecting gross polluters from liability.
On our own
After passage of the TCA, a group of scientists and engineers, backed by the Communications Workers of America, filed suit in federal court. They hoped the Supreme Court would review both the FCC's outdated exposure guidelines and the legality of a federal law that severely impedes state and local authority in the siting of hazardous transmitters. In 2001, the Supreme Court refused to hear the case. The group's subsequent petition to the FCC asking the agency to bring its exposure guidelines current with the latest scientific data was denied.18

Sweden was one of the first nations to go wireless. Swedish neuroscientist, Dr. Olle Johansson, with hundreds of published papers to his credit, says that a national epidemic of illness and disability was unleashed by the wireless revolution. Long periods of sick leave, attempted suicides and industrial accidents all increased simultaneously with introduction of mobile phone radiation. Ninety-nine percent of the Swedish population is now under duress of powerful third generation masts. Johansson reports that people are plagued with sleep disorders, chronic fatigue that does not respond to rest, difficulties with cognitive function and serious blood problems. Recurrent headaches and migraines are a "substantial public health problem," he says.32

Meters and resources
The Electrosmog Detector allows you to HEAR the intensity of RF/microwave pollution in your environment. Developed by British radiation expert Alasdair Phillips, this battery-operated device will quickly allow you to identify dangerous RF/microwave hotspots, even where transmitters are concealed, and take action to protect yourself. This meter is $99 (price includes shipping) and can be obtained from HEARING IS BELIEVING, Box 64 Hayden, Idaho 83835. E-mail: gzz@icehouse.net.
The Trifield Meter ($145), produced by Alpha Lab, is used mainly to measure the milligauss of electromagnetic fields coming from 60 hertz sources. Use this digital meter to make sure your living and working spaces are under 2 milligauss. Alpha Lab's Microwave Power Density Meter ($320) is a more sensitive digital microwave meter that will help you assess the kilohertz, megahertz and gigahertz radiation in our wireless environment. This easy-read meter measures microwave radiation in microwatts per cm2, allowing comparison of your readings to the power density used by the Russians to make our embassy staff sick. Remember, people inside the embassy reportedly received only about .01 microwatts per cm2. For more information, contact Alpha Lab Inc., 1280 South 300 West, Salt Lake City, Utah 84101; (800) 658-7030; www.trifield.com
Alan Broadband produces radiation detection devices with models ranging in price from $159 to $2,800. The $159 model, while not giving detailed readings, is an extremely sensitive and sturdy instrument that gives an accurate dial read on whether or not radiation is present and its relative intensity. It lets you know when you are being irradiated and serves as an excellent tool to illustrate exposure levels to others. For more information, contact Alan Broadband 93 Arch St., Redwood City, California 94062; (888) 369-9627; www.zapchecker.com

Cell phone radiation

null@example.com (ape-x) — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:29:41 +0000

'nuclear bombs on poles'

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?cont … p;aid=7025