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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Senator Craig?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>lyra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>haha I&#039;m with you on that one. I&#039;ve thought that many times myself.&nbsp; You can totally see into stalls when you walk past them when the cracks are over an inch wide.&nbsp; Ridiculous.&nbsp; I&#039;ve also been in bathrooms where the stalls were completely enclosed rooms, with doors that had doorknobs.&nbsp; Like dressing rooms.&nbsp; Nice.&nbsp; That&#039;s how they should all be.</p></blockquote></div><p>The only time I&#039;ve seen completely enclosed stalls with doorknobs was when I&#039;ve visited Canada....it was nice, civilized, you know.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Vajra]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-09-01T18:20:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Senator Craig?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>David Wilcock DOES repeatedly make the point that all those false leaders are going to have all their deeds brought before the public in the years to come.&nbsp; I had read that statement about a day before seeing this story break, and I thought, &quot;Wow, he&#039;s right.&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>Then again, the entrapment thing bothers me, too.&nbsp; If two grown, consenting men whom I don&#039;t know want to do the nasty in a bacteria-filled bathroom--without subjecting others to seeing it--why is that my business?&nbsp; This story is only of interest because of the hypocrisy issue.&nbsp; If it were some random Joe and Steve, I&#039;d grimace and say, &quot;Go on with your bad selves.&quot;</p><p>But one more thing-- I thought (naively, of course) that in order for someone to be arrested for solicitation, they had to come out and say what they wanted, and/or pass money (in the case of prostitution).&nbsp; I wasn&#039;t aware that foot-tapping, hand signals, and overly-long-crack-looking would stand up in court.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Lono]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-09-01T12:18:52Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m with you lyra.&nbsp; It does seem that many of the uptight, thin lipped,<br />morally righteous anti gay repuglicans and televangelistas are getting<br />caught with their morals down lately...<br />Divine cumuppance?<br />Ha.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Tom Paine]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-09-01T10:25:09Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Senator Craig?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Vajra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>And pet rant here, but why the hell are there such big cracks in public restroom stalls anyway?&nbsp; &nbsp;Would it kill them to design the stalls better?</p></blockquote></div><p>haha I&#039;m with you on that one. I&#039;ve thought that many times myself.&nbsp; You can totally see into stalls when you walk past them when the cracks are over an inch wide.&nbsp; Ridiculous.&nbsp; I&#039;ve also been in bathrooms where the stalls were completely enclosed rooms, with doors that had doorknobs.&nbsp; Like dressing rooms.&nbsp; Nice.&nbsp; That&#039;s how they should all be.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lyra]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-09-01T07:54:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Senator Craig?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yes, looking through the crack in the bathroom stall door is creepy, it&#039;s happened to me, and yes I&#039;d like to get those people arrested but as far as I know that alone is not enough to get someone arrested.&nbsp; &nbsp;And pet rant here, but why the hell are there such big cracks in public restroom stalls anyway?&nbsp; &nbsp;Would it kill them to design the stalls better?</p><p>Okay here is the reenactment based on the police report that I saw...pretty funny too <a href="http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?g=6a07f2bc-d5a6-4299-a94c-7b448c37e6fe&amp;f=00&amp;fg=copy">http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?g=6 … mp;fg=copy</a>&nbsp; &nbsp;See what you think.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Vajra]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-09-01T07:16:48Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Senator Craig?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Vajra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>What crime did he actually commit?&nbsp; &nbsp;He tapped his foot.&nbsp; That&#039;s it.</p></blockquote></div><p>That&#039;s not what I read.&nbsp; I read that the primary issue was the fact that he was looking through the crack of the bathroom stall door for a prolonged amount of time;&nbsp; he also slid his foot under the stall and tapped the other guy, as well as doing something with his bag or briefcase.&nbsp; He later defended his foot touching the other guy by saying his legs have a &quot;wide berth&quot; when he&#039;s sitting on the toilet.&nbsp; Uh, okay.&nbsp; !&nbsp; </p><p>Who knows if he&#039;s innocent, but again, it&#039;s just funny that it&#039;s always these tightly wound conservatives that get busted for deviancy.&nbsp; Like they&#039;re all repressed and have to let the steam out somehow, then go to gay call boys and try to have bathroom trysts and what not, then feel guilty and get back on their church pulpit or political soapbox moralizing to the public about gays and morals and all that.</p><p>It&#039;s all side track diversion though.&nbsp; Dish up a juicy &quot;did he or didn&#039;t he?&quot; sex scandal and watch the public go at it for weeks, meanwhile as other stuff slips by under the radar.............</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lyra]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-09-01T04:26:02Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Senator Craig?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>This event has really bothered me - it screams of entrapment.&nbsp; Now I&#039;ll be the first to say given all that&#039;s known about Craig that this is karmically just.&nbsp; But from the point of view of laws and civil liberties it is very disturbing.&nbsp; &nbsp;What crime did he actually commit?&nbsp; &nbsp;He tapped his foot.&nbsp; That&#039;s it.&nbsp; &nbsp;If the officer hadn&#039;t encouraged him with the correct codes back nothing would have happened, he would have just been a man who tapped his foot.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;A person not interested in this bizarre gay sex in bathroom scene would not have known what the foot tapping meant and not have encouraged him by giving the right signals back.&nbsp; &nbsp; So what if he wanted/intended to commit a lewd act - he did not do it - if he did it, fine arrest him.&nbsp; &nbsp;Have we reached the level of <em>thoughtcrime</em> in this country?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Vajra]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-09-01T04:16:55Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Senator Craig?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s funny that these sex scandals always seem to happen to these thin lipped, mean eyed, crusty old white Republicans and/or religious conservatives that claim to be so morally upstanding and anti-gay. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" />&nbsp; </p><p>Then again it&#039;s a weird coincidence that he pulled this on a cop of all people.&nbsp; Strange bad luck and bad timing there.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lyra]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-09-01T03:59:58Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Senator Craig?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if this is another &#039;set up&#039; or if he is guilty of such kinkiness?&nbsp; I&#039;m tired of all<br />this sex crap ...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[SHUSAFLYIN]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-09-01T02:14:13Z</updated>
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