What an odd coincidence that you've posted to this thread and you've been thru the same experiences.  It makes me wonder...Even as crappy as this reality is turning out to be, I'm still somehow being helped along the way. So thank goodness, there must be someone looking out for me!

Definitely.  I'm sure you have more help on the other side than you realize, even though I know it doesn't always seem like it.

If you have some NET done by an experienced practitioner, in addition to helping you to resolve a vanishing twin loss (assuming that's what happened,) they will probably be able to help you release any negative emotions that were imprinted in your energy field at your conception. 

Please keep us posted on your progress. 

Blessings! 

Ha!   Another co-inky-dink!  That's just too weird.  I have muscle tested, though, that the name Althea was perceived incorrectly, or something like that. But still....

Again, thank you so much for the links to those other sites. I've printed out many articles already. I'd like to take Althea's questionnaire, but unfortunately, my mom doesn't consciously remember too much about her pregnancy with me. It was a very traumatic time for her. I am the child of either a wife-cheating a**, or a 'rapist'.  I use quotes because I suspect that mom wasn't really fighting back.  When she found out about her boyfriend being married, she proceeded to get plastered at the bar she worked at and got taken advantage of by a customer (or so she says).  Actually, I can't get much else out of her. She is not ready to face her past, and unfortunately for me, I need her to do this now.  Oh well, I guess I'll just keep doing it alone. 

Thankfully, I have this forum with such cool people who are able to provide missing puzzle pieces.
It has been a 'god'-send. 

Peace...

That does sound like you had a vanishing twin!

I could see that wording not being precise enough to get a yes from your subconscious.  Try testing by asking or stating that the 2nd soul that you have in your energy field was connected with your physical twin that died in the womb. (Or that would have ensouled your twin had it been born.)

I held onto some of the energy of my vanished twin for many years until I finally released it.  I was holding onto her because of all the grief I still needed to release, and other conflict like fear.  I also got that it would be better for us both for me to let her go, but it was still extremely emotional and difficult.

I don't know about that.  {Oppress - a feeling of being heavily weighed down in mind or body.}   Carrying around your twin's soul in your energy field would likely oppress your energy in some way.  It doesn't make that soul negative or malevolent.

I think it's very common for people who have a vanished twin to carry part of that twin with them energetically, at least until they have resolved all the emotional issues involved.

Mid-back - that makes me think of subconscious heartache that hasn't been resolved.  Or that could be where you contracted around her soul energy, if that is what actually happened.

Actually, when I discovered my vanished twin through NET, that was where the practitioner tapped in order to release the block and bring up all the associated memories. (And a deluge of emotion.)

Yeah.  I would definitely look into that possibility.  That would explain why you were able to let go of the other ones but not this one.  Because you aren't ready to let her go - totally understandable.

If you did lose your twin, there is probably a ton of emotional stuff to process and release.  Maybe hypnotherapy will help you to do that, if you find someone who is experienced with working with womb twin survivors.

N.E.T. (Neuro Emotional Technique,) which I mentioned in a post above, is the only technique I know that specifically tests for vanishing twins and works to release the related emotional trauma:

http://www.vanishingtwin.com/

http://www.netmindbody.com/patients/index.asp

Maybe you can find an experienced, local practitioner:
http://www.netmindbody.com/patients/fin … _start.asp

Caryl Dennis wrote a book about Vanishing Twins called The Millennium Children.  In it, she also looked at a possible connection between ET abductions and at least some vanished twins:

http://www.rainbowsunlimited.com/VanishingTwins.htm

She also has a Yahoo group for Vanishing Twins that you may find helpful.  There are a lot of stories from womb twin survivors in the archives, so you can see if you resonate with any of it:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vanishingtwins/

You also may want to check out this site by a woman named Althea (weird coincidence with the name, huh?):

http://www.altheahayton.com/wombtwin/index.html

She also wrote a book on VTP, but I haven't read it. 

I hope this helps you find some answers! 

Take care.

MG wrote:

Interesting.  Would you mind sharing what state that healer is in?

Ummm, well, it was a midwest state. That's all I feel comfortable with divulging.

In the second post, I included 'transcripts' from recent muscle testing. Maybe you didn't get that far. This is a long thread, so I understand.  But here are some parts of it that is applicable in this discussion (the key to my answers is in post #2):

After I did m.t. the first time last year, that's when I got the attachments. I went to AZ to see someone who said he could help. He's the one that told me I had so many to begin with.  By the time I left, he said there was still a 'piggybacker' left that he would have to work on through my family lineage lines. There was a falling through (I didn't trust him after I came home and started learning lots of stuff by joining this forum), so I don't believe that he attempted to get rid of this last "piggy".  That was in Oct. '06.

Then in June, I went to see another seer. This one was a woman shaman healer and she was much more suited to my situation.  She saw this "piggybacker" as my twin. She said that it's name was Althea, and that she's been with me since birth.  So if this is true, then the whole vanishing twin phenomenon might be what is happening to me.  At this point, I am still unsure. But as you can see from above, apparently I am not ready for this soul to leave, unless that is a trick. 

As far as I can tell, I am free from regular spirit attachments. I have been told that by a few people lately.  But there is something that's here with me. I'm still trying to figure it out.  My mom has no recollection of any bleeding during her pregnancy with me. So I can't say for sure whether it was a physical twin in the womb or if it's just an extra soul placed in my body to ensure....whatever.  The statement I made about oppression makes me think that maybe it's not a 'twin'. 

I have many unanswered questions.  I don't know what the next step should be.  I'm thinking that my last resort would be hypnotherapy, since my consciousness obviously doesn't know what's going on in me.

Thank you so much, MG, for the links to that other forum. Hopefully, I'll find some answers there.  Thanks for being a good sport and hanging out on my thread, trying to help.  It is very much appreciated.

...But I had planned on seeing an old healer up in an Amish community. I had received a reply to my letter with an appointment date, but when I got there a month later, I found out that he was ill and not there to help.  But there was someone who could see me. I only know that she is a holistic healer. She used the muscle testing the way you described it, I think.  We sat facing each other and I put my hands on my knees. She put her left hand on my right hand and did the m.t. with her right hand.  She stayed in that position and then moved her left hand to various parts of my body.  She said, "You're very tired" and I said "honey, you ain't kidding!" Then after a minute, she told me that I was running on hyperspeed, and that 'no wonder you're tired!' She was going from one location to another, all the while doing that snapping type thing with her right hand, and flipping through this big binder full of information.  We talked a little while she did this. Not too much though. She told me I didn't need the hysterectomy that I had in '04.  She said that my post-hysterectomy bleeding stems from my thyroid problem. 

So, she's going about her business (this whole appt. takes less than 10 minutes) and then she tells me I'm good to go. I kind of blinked.  I asked her if I should take kelp or iodine and she said I could if I wanted to and if my body swayed towards it, but that it wasn't necessary. I asked her what I needed to take and she said nothing.  I said "okay, well, what did you just do?"  She told me that she had cleared the blockages causing the thyroid problems.  She also told me I had mono in my liver.  I was wondering why my liver had been so pained for so long.  I just stood there with my mouth open. I asked if she was sure, and she said yes.

Interesting.  Would you mind sharing what state that healer is in?

I must have misunderstood your other posts.  I thought you had all the attachments removed, and were just looking for advice to avoid getting additional ones or connecting with them when muscle testing rather than your own HS.  Are you sure you are carrying around another soul?

Another possibility: one in eight people begin life with a twin which then  'vanishes' in the first several months of gestation. (It's reabsorbed by the mother and/or the other fetus.)  Sometimes the person ends up joining with the soul that would have been their twin if the twin had survived.  Do twins run in your family?

I've only had extremely limited experience with the whole entity attachment thing.   I did find a couple threads on another board I visit that addresses the cause of attachments.  I thought this post by Gary Bonnell was very interesting:

There are two people who post on that thread that do spirit releasement work.  Perhaps you could PM them for some advice.  (NRgetic Healer in Atlanta, and Mark A. in Canada.)

Here's another related thread with a post by Gary Bonnell:

And here are a couple related threads:

http://www.garybonnell.com/forums/viewt … rit+guides

http://www.garybonnell.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=204

I understand.
 

I'm sorry you're going through such a rough time.  I wish I had more help to offer.  I hope you find the answers you are seeking.

Mystical Girl wrote:

Wow!  I can't believe how expensive it was and that they didn't give you a refund when you had a bad reaction!

Well, the whole deal was just messed up anyways.  It was an ex-doctor of mine that offered the service. His daughter was the technician.  At the time of the treatments, I felt really crappy the whole day afterwards. Really light-headed and stuff.  The two that I had were separated by a month or more, because your hair grows in different stages. Not all the hair follicles are filled at the same time.  It wasn't until after the second appointment that I started having my spells. It was probably no more than a month after the last one. Well, I went to that doctor when the spells started and he said that they were seizures and referred me back to my neurologist. I had seen one a year or so before for some neuro symptoms that were not diagnosed, and eventually subsided.  Neither he (the 1st doc) nor I made any connection to the IPL treatments. I didn't think about it at the time, and obviously he didn't think about it either (or maybe he did and just didn't say anything). I don't know. This guy had a huge chip on his shoulder.  He flat out told me one day that people who smoke should expect to get cancer, and that it's our own fault. But then he told me I was too young to have cancer (33 at the time)!  So yeah, I just quit going to see him after that day (after a check up a few months later, after seeing neuro).  I never told them what I finally suspected and I never called to ask for my money back. 

Hee, hee... Yeah, I didn't think it was you, but many strange things have been happening to me lately!  It wouldn't have surprised me.  

I actually can't answer your question. The whole set-up was weird.  Very long story there. But I had planned on seeing an old healer up in an Amish community. I had received a reply to my letter with an appointment date, but when I got there a month later, I found out that he was ill and not there to help.  But there was someone who could see me. I only know that she is a holistic healer. She used the muscle testing the way you described it, I think.  We sat facing each other and I put my hands on my knees. She put her left hand on my right hand and did the m.t. with her right hand.  She stayed in that position and then moved her left hand to various parts of my body.  She said, "You're very tired" and I said "honey, you ain't kidding!" Then after a minute, she told me that I was running on hyperspeed, and that 'no wonder you're tired!' She was going from one location to another, all the while doing that snapping type thing with her right hand, and flipping through this big binder full of information.  We talked a little while she did this. Not too much though. She told me I didn't need the hysterectomy that I had in '04.  She said that my post-hysterectomy bleeding stems from my thyroid problem. 

So, she's going about her business (this whole appt. takes less than 10 minutes) and then she tells me I'm good to go. I kind of blinked.  I asked her if I should take kelp or iodine and she said I could if I wanted to and if my body swayed towards it, but that it wasn't necessary. I asked her what I needed to take and she said nothing.  I said "okay, well, what did you just do?"  She told me that she had cleared the blockages causing the thyroid problems.  She also told me I had mono in my liver.  I was wondering why my liver had been so pained for so long.  I just stood there with my mouth open. I asked if she was sure, and she said yes. 

So I'm not sure what kind of work she was doing, exactly.  And to be honest, I don't know if it's working. That was on July 17, and I haven't had any change.  There is a possibility that I will not be able to be healed, due to perhaps subconscious programming or beliefs.  I learned from that Odyssey of the Soul website, that if you have any blocks, then no healer will be able to heal you.  I have a lot of problems, and obviously one of the biggest ones is the extra soul this body is carrying around.  I think it's causing a lot of my health problems, but I'm not sure.  It can't be helping..... And likely, it's the reason why I am not fully connected to my higher self. 

I'd like to write more, but it's coming slowly for me today.  My mind is somewhere else.  It's thinking about the really deep stuff. It's hard to come back to the surface sometimes. 

One thing I did want to mention is the jesus thing.  Again, no offense meant to anyone, but I am not comfortable with calling for him either.  There are just too many unknowns in my book.  I actually had a break-down yesterday because I don't know who can help me. I have nobody to call for help. I don't know what's real anymore. Who are these spirits and guides and angels? Ya know? I mean, really, who are we? Why are we here? 

See, this is the reason why I feel so very alone. I know the spirit world is real, I just don't know if it's a trap or not.  My gut tells me that this is all just a set-up.  Maybe I've read too much.  I keep asking for the truth, and information keeps popping up in front of me every time. Some of this truth is very hard to swallow, and I've found it difficult to keep my sanity on some days. But I'm only getting what I asked for!!

There's too much involved for me to write about here.  And so confusing for most people....I am very lost down this rabbit hole. I forgot the way out months ago, so I keep going forward...

Yeah, forget about permanent hair removal. It's a crock. I paid $1000 for three treatments, and only had 2 done because I started having those seizures/fainting episodes. (No, I didn't get a refund.)  It is too bad that new technology is tested out on us guinea pigs.

Wow!  I can't believe how expensive it was and that they didn't give you a refund when you had a bad reaction!

According to an uncited entry in wikipedia, IPL is not technically a laser.

Haha!  That would be funny.  No, that wasn't me.  What type of practitioner was she?

You should definitely check out the thread I started in the Health section on Iodine deficiency.  It's rampant in the US.

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=5601

That doesn't offend me in the least.  I don't know a lot about it, but I've read enough to make me suspicious.   I don't call on anybody by name, but I have in the past asked my HS to arrange for me to have extra guardian angels.   Or if I'm doing a healing meditation or something where you're supposed to call on a specific entity, I never do.  I just ask my HS to do whatever is best and positive for me.

I'm not the slightest bit religious, but if you want to ask for help from an extremely evolved benevolent spirit, you probably can't go wrong with calling on Jesus the Christ.  Some people will use that name to invoke protection too.

I had a lot of negative religious baggage from being raised Catholic and after observing too many 'Christians' who distorted what he really represented, that name became like a bad word for me for quite a while. -- It took me a long time to get past the negative stuff and to be able to appreciate the Christ and the true liberation he demonstrated.

You are always connected with your HS to some degree.  You may want to ask your HS to increase that connection and also your level of consciousness so that you are more aware of it, and to heal and protect your energy field (removing and preventing all negative interference.)

Remember, you are never really alone, and know that you are, in reality, a powerful, eternal being who can't really be harmed.   Radiate love and joy as much as possible - it will repel negative energies.

Ask also that your fear and other conflict and negativity be transmuted into Divine Light or Divine Joy.  Fear is a very low vibration and will usually attract other low vibrational energies.

As to why you went through what you did... I believe that situations we may judge as negative usually contain the greatest opportunity for growth and learning.   From your HS's perspective, it is all good and serving the Higher Purpose of your eventual, full Awakening.

Blessings on your journey!

Lyra wrote:

Okay...I was merely posting a link to a related thread in case people were curious to read more about pendulum divination specifically, since there was a lot of good material in that thread that people may find interesting.  As a supplement.   So there's no need to explain or defend yourself.

Actually, I did feel the need to explain why I didn't just add onto your thread. It was the only one that I had found in my search for pendulums, and I didn't feel that it was right for me to post onto that one, since I would have been out of step with the general mood, and because it was an older thread.  Besides, I didn't want to muddy it up with my crappola. 

Sorry if there's been a misunderstanding. And thank you for posting the link for your thread over here. I do think people should read it. I found it interesting, myself.  If I was really on it, I would have linked to your thread to begin with.

None of this is coming out right. No offense meant. And I'm sure you didn't take any. You've said that you don't get upset about stuff like that, so I take your word for it.

Namaste

Lyra wrote:

Well, if anybody's curious about the pendulum dowsing subject, here's an oldie but goody thread about pendulum divination:

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=1955

Yes, I actually read that thread several months ago.  I didn't want to revitalize that one, though, because I felt that it was just a fun thread. This one is meant to be more cautious.  I believe that Bruce's statement about being careful was totally ignored, so I didn't think that thread was the place for me to be spouting off about how important it is to know who/what you're communicating with and using statements instead of questions, etc.

Okay...I was merely posting a link to a related thread in case people were curious to read more about pendulum divination specifically, since there was a lot of good material in that thread that people may find interesting.  As a supplement.   So there's no need to explain or defend yourself.

Lyra wrote:

Well, if anybody's curious about the pendulum dowsing subject, here's an oldie but goody thread about pendulum divination:

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=1955

Yes, I actually read that thread several months ago.  I didn't want to revitalize that one, though, because I felt that it was just a fun thread. This one is meant to be more cautious.  I believe that Bruce's statement about being careful was totally ignored, so I didn't think that thread was the place for me to be spouting off about how important it is to know who/what you're communicating with and using statements instead of questions, etc.

This is very interesting to me.  Personally, I know that when my cat is freaking out like that, it's not normally a good thing.  I've had times in the past few months when she has been doing that and it wasn't because she was happy!  I think your cat is trying to tell you something...   Actually, I've read your book and articles and you have already said that your cat does those things when you have unwanted visitors.

I don't know.  In my own opinion (which is mine only and not necessarily right), I think you're taking chances on your dowsing, considering you're a self-admitted MILAB experiment.  If you haven't gone through the trouble of finding out exactly what is making your pendulum move, you may be getting yourself into more stuff than you realize.  Of course, you're a very intelligent person, so I don't presume to know better than you.  It's just that I sense a kind of indifference on your part.  I'm referring to one of your comments in your thread about how you just figured it was yourself making the pendulum move. Of course, I'm paraphrasing here. 

Oh well. No big deal.  I wanted to start this thread for people who would like to learn more about self-testing of any kind, and the downfalls that can go with these things.  Just trying to raise awareness!  Goodness knows that so far I've just been a leach, learning all these cool things from this forum without having much to input because of lack of experience.    And finally, I have something I can give advice on!  Woohoo, right?

Okay, I'll crawl back in my hole now.... Fire away!!!

MG wrote:

Hey Seeking!  I had read your post on the other thread before posting last night, but I hadn't realize that your illness began as a result of IPL.  I have heard of people being scarred by laser hair removal but not a more involved illness.  Is IPL a type of laser 'treatment'?   Not having to shave one's legs any more would be very appealing if the process were safe.  It's unfortunate that most people who have it done are unaware of the risks.  I considered having it done before I found about the possibility of permanent scarring.  I guess I'll stick to shaving.

LOL!!  Yeah, forget about permanent hair removal. It's a crock. I paid $1000 for three treatments, and only had 2 done because I started having those seizures/fainting episodes. (No, I didn't get a refund.)  It is too bad that new technology is tested out on us guinea pigs. 

I don't think IPL is laser treatment per se, but rather an intense pulsated light therapy. Is there a difference? I just know that it got insanely hot (the machine) and it really really hurt. To do both legs with just that small head took about 150 to 200 zaps!  And then she did my underarms, too!  And dammit, it didn't work!! I didn't even hear about the scarring bit.  I don't think I scarred from the treatments, but I have had a lot of skin irritations since then.

You mentioned doing m.t. on others with one hand. Ya know, I just visited someone who used this on me but I didn't know she was m.t.  I thought she might be, but I'd never seen it done like that before.  Your name isn't Kat or Cat, is it?? No, surely you're not the one I saw....That would be too weird!  Anyways, she told me that my problems stem from my thyroid. Of course, I knew this all along, but test after test showed I was in "normal" range.  But seeing how the curve in that test has gone up because the people in this country are getting bigger, I don't see how accurate that test is for someone on the other end of the spectrum. And thyroid problems run in my family.

Well, that is certainly one way....But I tried that. My mom had told me to ask for Archangel Michael's protection and I did.  Don't know if it worked or not, but it sure helped to bring in some more spirits to my life.  I don't mean to offend your beliefs, but I've read waaaaay too much information since this all started to go out calling on angels anymore.  You've been on this forum for a while, so perhaps you've read all the controversy on the subject of the 'heavenly' realms.   I have been told that I have several guides and helpers, but I have no clue how true that is, or if they've left because I've started questioning everything.  I would absolutely LOVE to have a little help or protection, but I really don't know who to ask anymore. So basically now my protection comes from myself and my awareness. I don't know how well it's working, but I sure as heck don't know what else to do... I apparently don't even have my HS's guidance or protection....

Thanks for all of your explanations. It's been very helpful.

...What's really interesting is the way my cat will get all weird when I'm standing at the counter with the pendulum!   It's amazing, she'll keep making these squeak noises and run around with bugged out eyes, then stop, look at me like "!" then run around some more.  I always figure she's seeing something that's around when I'm doing it.

Wouldn't you love to know what she's seeing?! Cats are amazing.  I don't have one, but there are a lot of them that hang around near my house, and it's quite obvious that they are very aware of energetic things. 

That's a great accuracy rate, and I know exactly what you mean about not being connected up.  For me, I usually find it's because my energy needs clearing or I'm too emotional about something that is dragging my vibration down.

Sometimes it seems an answer is just neutral... and try as I might, I can't a clear yes or no.  That's when calibrating things and testing percentages can come in handy.   Or like you said, digging deeper and asking more questions.

I mentioned last night that I refer to something called the "Now Point" when muscle testing supplements.  I found a link that shows the meridian wheel from Chinese Medicine with the times the various meridians are most active:
http://www.tuberose.com/meridians.html
(Scroll Down to see the wheel.)

Unfortunately though, it shows the associated muscle, but doesn't show the actual acupuncture point though that is related to each "Now Point" so it probably won't be useful to most people.

You could try testing the way I do it, by just saying "testing my now point" and seeing if your test muscle goes weak.  Your body should know where your now points are and which one is currently active.  If your muscle goes weak when you say that, a supplement your body needs will make it go strong upon retesting - again saying "testing my now point."

Thanks for the link Lyra.   I think I read part of that thread way back when you posted it.  How are you doing with the dowsing?  Do you use it very often?

Not often, but I do still use it from time to time when I have pressing issues that I'd like some input on.  Stuff involving work, or health issues, or decision making when outside input would help.   There are times when it doesn't seem to be working, and other times when I feel connected up.  What's really interesting is the way my cat will get all weird when I'm standing at the counter with the pendulum!   It's amazing, she'll keep making these squeak noises and run around with bugged out eyes, then stop, look at me like "!" then run around some more.  I always figure she's seeing something that's around when I'm doing it.   

I have to say, the input that I've gotten regarding work (temp assignments) has been probably 98% accurate.  The times it wasn't were those times when I didn't feel truly connected up, and so I'd get contradictory answers.  But the other times it's always spot on accurate.  I know that I can trust the input I get via the pendulum when it concerns issues with work.

One of the keys for me lies in the "Maybe" response.  I do the simple Yes, No, Maybe.  And Maybe for me has been established as "there's more to the issue...keep probing" or "open ended," as in, the future's not set in stone.  And when I get Maybe, it's again, always an accurate response for the situation.  I love when I get it when I was expecting a clear cut Yes or No!  It's always surprising, so I'll have to think and dig deeper and come up with more questions, all the while as my cat is running amok squeaking and bug eyed.  haha

I have a plain brass pendulum.  I think I left it at my parents' house.  Your rose quartz one sounds nice, and I love the one Jedi posted on the other thread.  It's so pretty!  Now I want one to play with.

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=1955