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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Vajra,</p><p>The sgaileadh of indigo (blue) flashes of light simply means for me to pay attention to a coinciding thought (synchronicity).</p><p>The white flashes seem to be more noteworthy and demand greater attention and contemplation.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 21:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Shukaido, thanks for sharing your direct personal experience of all this.&nbsp; &nbsp; I hope you will bear with me in asking what may seem simplistic questions given all that you have seen.&nbsp; &nbsp; You mention....<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>After we&#039;d broken up, one of my ex-boyfriend&#039;s associates showed up at my apartment one night, years ago, and lowered his distortion field enough so that I could begin to see his true reptilian form.</p></blockquote></div><p>Can you give details about this?&nbsp; Exactly what did you see?&nbsp; Were you already aware the information out there about reptilians at that point and were you friggin&#039; terrified?&nbsp; &nbsp;I would be to say the least.&nbsp; &nbsp; </p><p>keentraveler, I too see the sgaileadh in the indigo color, have been for many years now.&nbsp; &nbsp;What does it mean to you?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>shukaido wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>What&#039;s unusual about my interface with this &quot;matrix&quot; construct is that these subtle forces, for lack of a better word, don&#039;t generally leave a recognizable trace or trail of interference and in my life there have been several. This &quot;matrix&quot; is not infallible as it&#039;s a somewhat antiquated system, in my opinion, in spite of alleged technological advancements. It&#039;s a system managed by old beings, entities, and organizations, super-intelligent but not often evolved, and stuck in their old ways. They are not perfect and make poor choices...</p></blockquote></div><p>This section made me wonder...I&#039;ve heard before that those who are sensitive to spirit guides often have to update or explain a few things to their guides about current life on Earth because, although guides are super-intelligent and spiritually advanced, they haven&#039;t been in a body for a long time.&nbsp; They&#039;re smart, but can sometimes lack common sense because they don&#039;t know what&#039;s common anymore.</p><p>I wouldn&#039;t ever want to underestimate the so-called controllers of the matrix, but how can they really know what&#039;s effective from the outside?&nbsp; Anybody who&#039;s ever worked an office job before has probably had a boss to tell you to do something some way without really understanding that it isn&#039;t the most practical way or that it won&#039;t work.&nbsp; Bosses tend to lose touch because they don&#039;t do the work themselves.&nbsp; They aren&#039;t on the ground...We&#039;ve just identified an inherent weakness in rigid hierarchial systems: the controllers tend to be out of touch with reality.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>shukaido wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It may also be helpful to become familiar with the circuitous ways in which negative agents and assigns will seek to bait and provoke you to distraction and instill within you hardly constructive ideas and negative programming. Also, one could learn to self-generate healthy levels of &quot;So what?&quot; and &quot;Big deal&quot; about being watched, monitored, or followed, if you begin to perceive that you are, and get on with enjoying the richness and the fullness of life. Enjoy and take care of your physical body. Your spiritual body will thank you for it. Another suggestion that comes immediatelly to mind may be one&#039;s own defeatist use of language. Who needs drugs or programming when many are completely willing to limit and lock themselves within the confines of their own Nintendo Gameboy Advance-esqe notion of the quality of one&#039;s life and relationships being governed by a predestined order of levels of experience? I would also question both the blue pill and the red pill idea.&nbsp; Who said that you need a pill? An actor? An author? A movie? I don&#039;t understand why anyone would want to go &quot;down&quot; a rabbit &quot;hole&quot;, anyway. It&#039;s &quot;dark&quot; down there.</p></blockquote></div><p>Lovely, Sw-eeet stuff. Thanks for posting that</p><p>Every time I encounter an allied fringe dweller/truth-seeker enthralled with the &quot;Wow-ee Lookie What the Illuminati/lizzies/greys/shadow lords/plutocratic elite/baddies are doin&#039; now!&quot; attitude, it feels like my eyes roll to the back of my skull...again. Not that I knock any revelatory action upon the lumbering forces of humorless greed, nor any sharing to ease and heal imposed isolation in the Prison.&nbsp; But I often wonder about my pathmates, if you had the time/money/resources to devote to anything like they do,&nbsp; would you do as they do? No? Then what would you do and do it NOW !&nbsp; Power allows what benefits power, duh! It is an infinite multiverse, is it not? If not, then it&#039;s a knot all for naught.&nbsp; Got futility?</p><p>Thanks for mentioning the defeatist use of language. I find very many walking in two worlds with one set of symbols that&#039;s inadequate for at least one, if not both. Words are tonal anchors folks, if you want to set sail, anchors aweigh!!!</p><p>Is improvisation predestined yet? Fierce beauty awaits.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Vajra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hi I&#039;m new and just going to jump right in.&nbsp; &nbsp;There is a question I&#039;ve been wanting to ask ever since I discovered this world of &quot;fringe&quot; knowledge.&nbsp; &nbsp; How many of you feel that you know for a fact, in your own personal experience, that this matrix world exists with beings intent on harvesting negative energy, engineering events in our lives, repressing our own enlightenment?&nbsp; &nbsp;What convinced you?</p></blockquote></div><p>Hello Vajra, I&#039;m new here as well. </p><p>So, let&#039;s see . . . personal experience. Here&#039;s one example: After we&#039;d broken up, one of my ex-boyfriend&#039;s associates showed up at my apartment one night, years ago, and lowered his distortion field enough so that I could begin to see his true reptilian form. I hadn&#039;t known the two were even acquainted, let alone non-humans. He&#039;d referred to the ex-boyfriend as &quot;one of my people,&quot; and I thought, &quot;Okay, I&#039;ve been dating aliens. Who seem to somehow know each other. It is clearly not a time to wonder how long this has been going on since this one is currently doing some sort of shape-shifting thing in my living room. The question for now is, how do I get it out of my apartment?&quot; This not-exactly-first contact established a basis for my understanding of an unseen networked system, a surrounding structure which only expanded under scrutiny. The event might also fall under the cinematic &quot;matrix&quot; model of &quot;things revealing themselves as not what they had seemed.&quot;</p><p>My involvement with the &quot;matrix&quot; construct has been a little more concrete in terms of external forces acting to confine and define my life experience, interactions, and development. What&#039;s unusual about my interface with this &quot;matrix&quot; construct is that these subtle forces, for lack of a better word, don&#039;t generally leave a recognizable trace or trail of interference and in my life there have been several. This &quot;matrix&quot; is not infallible as it&#039;s a somewhat antiquated system, in my opinion, in spite of alleged technological advancements. It&#039;s a system managed by old beings, entities, and organizations, super-intelligent but not often evolved, and stuck in their old ways. They are not perfect and make poor choices, sometimes as if they themselves have become drunk on the wine of their own kool-aid mix of red and blue pills. </p><p>I&#039;ve been monitored since birth, one method being through the implant behind my ear referenced in Karla Turner&#039;s e-book &quot;Taken&quot; (illustration on page 73) and stalked by various factions of terrestrial human, non-human, and discarnate beings coming through, somewhat overtly, for the last seven years, since what I&#039;ve come to call my &quot;self-destruct&quot; programming began to break down and ultimately fail completely. I&#039;ve read that this kind of programming can encompass events that, unexamined, might seem like random unfortunate circumstance; unproductive relationships, addiction, ensnare or entrapment in some variety of criminal activity (which can be considered a kind of maze if one were to conceptualize a model of the penal and justice system), depression, mental disorders, and at the extreme end coerced suicide. Negative &quot;destruct&quot; programming would seem to become fully engaged in some who begin to develop a certain awareness above and beyond the half truths, lies, garbage, and gadgetry that&#039;s pumped consistently into our waking and dreaming lives; the manipulated confines of the physical, sensual realm. Interestingly enough, &quot;The Truman Show&quot; was somehow broadcast on almost every television set I passed while these negative and controlling agents were massing about me, on two coasts, perhaps to reinforce the idea within my mind of monitoring and control. At first I was mystified by it. I spent long hours inert, derailed, wondering, &quot;How is it possible that this movie is always being broadcast on these television sets? Is it coincidence? Who is behind this activity?&quot; Now I&#039;m over it. Even the title of a cable television show was created bearing my name perhaps for the purposes of creating what Robert Bruce calls &quot;core imagery&quot; in Practical Guide to Psychic Self-Defence and disorienting me during a time when spiritual assault was most intense. That&#039;s a huge, strange, coincidence to leave laying around on this plane. I&#039;ve since encountered agents who have suggested that I change my name. Here&#039;s an interesting link at educate-yourself.org:</p><p><a href="http://educate-yourself.org/cn/gangstalkingoverview15sep06.shtml">http://educate-yourself.org/cn/gangstal … ep06.shtml</a></p><p>Implants, childhood abductions, black sedans, helicopters, reality distortions, lizard people, (ahem), reptilians wandering around nightly in what some people call dreams during my resting hours (sometimes singing), discarnate beings, various attempts at poisoning, some even in major medical institutions, demonic possession attempts, failed indoctrination into satanic cult orders and a form of spiritual binding by a cult leader who&#039;s currently wandering around the Middle East calling himself &quot;the Father&quot; weirdly enough, unbeknownst to authorities no doubt. I&#039;ve seen and experienced all of these things personally, which I&#039;ve come to call &quot;interference&quot; and &quot;distractions.&quot; All potential hinderances to what I imagine you&#039;re referring to generally as enlightenment.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Vajra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;d be interested to know if others of you have experienced this and if anything you can do can stop it.</p></blockquote></div><p>Lyra has already mentioned her book containing some excellent, practical ideas for disconnecting or at least navigating through these systems of containment and derailment. Learning to motivate out of acting and reacting from coercion and fear is key. It may also be helpful to become familiar with the circuitous ways in which negative agents and assigns will seek to bait and provoke you to distraction and instill within you hardly constructive ideas and negative programming. Also, one could learn to self-generate healthy levels of &quot;So what?&quot; and &quot;Big deal&quot; about being watched, monitored, or followed, if you begin to perceive that you are, and get on with enjoying the richness and the fullness of life. Enjoy and take care of your physical body. Your spiritual body will thank you for it. Another suggestion that comes immediatelly to mind may be one&#039;s own defeatist use of language. Who needs drugs or programming when many are completely willing to limit and lock themselves within the confines of their own Nintendo Gameboy Advance-esqe notion of the quality of one&#039;s life and relationships being governed by a predestined order of levels of experience? I would also question both the blue pill and the red pill idea.&nbsp; Who said that you need a pill? An actor? An author? A movie? I don&#039;t understand why anyone would want to go &quot;down&quot; a rabbit &quot;hole&quot;, anyway. It&#039;s &quot;dark&quot; down there.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>If you follow the allegory in the Matrix movies, Society is the Matrix. </p><p>Think about it, the machines created a &quot;world&quot; based on the world that already existed. They didn&#039;t create the earth, just like the Illuminati didn&#039;t create the earth, therefore the earth is not part of the matrix. What else is society but a &quot;world&quot; based on a world that already exists? </p><p>To look for proof from the movies that society is the matrix in the Matrix movies, you need look no further than the society called &quot;Zion&quot; in the movies. Zion seemed to be a the &quot;real world&quot; to its inhabitants but those people were just as consumed by the matrix as anyone else. Why? The answer is because Zion was in fact part of the matrix. (Basically all of Zion&#039;s inhabitant&#039;s lives were dedicated to defeating the machines, thus were creating plenty of energy to feed the machines.) This can be clearly understood by a couple of simple plot points. First, a computer program, Agent Smith, manifested as a flesh and blood person inside of Zion. This couldn&#039;t have happened unless Zion was part of the matrix. Also, Zion was destroyed and rebuilt five times before Neo came along. Does anyone think that people who were &quot;released&quot; from the Matrix could have built an underground city in the same place five times without the help of the machines? Hell no, the machines wanted Zion there and in fact it was a creation of the machines. They needed it there in order to give people a &quot;choice.&quot; </p><p>This is consistent with Alex Jones&#039; explanation of the Illuminati&#039;s religion. They believe they must give people a choice, even if it&#039;s a false choice. Zion was part of the matrix and thus it follows the Illuminati&#039;s rule. I&#039;ve found all of this to be true in my own life. I moved away from one society because of my total disgust with it (America) only to enter a matrix of a different type (China). This is the plight of humanity, there&#039;s no way for the common man to escape the Illuminati matrix without leaving all societies (because they control every society and thus every matrix on earth to varying degrees). Could this be why Allan Watt lives alone in the woods? He seems to be seriously trying to escape the matrix. </p><p>If you follow the allegory from the matrix movies, it&#039;s clear to me that society is the matrix. You see, the machines didn&#039;t create this world, they just took it over and used what was available to them to build the matrix as a womb for humanity (that includes Zion, if you watch the movies, it&#039;s clear that the machines realized that Zion was absolutely necessary to keep the matrix going). In the same exact way, the Illuminati didn&#039;t create this world, they just took it over and used what was available to them to build the societies of the world as a womb for humanity. </p><p>For more information on this, please this book: </p><p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Social-Construction-Reality-Sociology-Knowledge/dp/0385058985/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-0216804-1433448?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1173925208&amp;sr=8-2">http://www.amazon.com/Social-Constructi … amp;sr=8-2</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 07:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Paul, for your comments...</p><p>I hope I did not sound too preachy in my previous post here, I did not mean to.</p><p>Yes, the younger ones today (gen Y, and the millenials) are far more gifted and talented and astute/aware than previous generations.</p><p>I being 38yrs old and from gen X, still dont use my cell phone frequently, and do not take it everywhere I go (when I walk the city streets).</p><p>I dont even log onto the computer that much, however, I watch alot of t.v., movies I record on my dig vid recorder, and the nightly news to see what the hedgmony espouses these days, and dvd movies... i seldom watch any series or other t.v. shows besides occasionally the History Chan.</p><p>I find it hard to read quickly and it takes me longer to read books (I have many spiritual ones, and used to have paranormal/conspiracy/ufo books).&nbsp; So i dont read that much due to my slow brain and concentration levels.</p><p>But I have had alot of learning thru direct experience (some of the mysteries).&nbsp; I wanted to let others know some of them.</p><p>I have noticed some problems in the younger ones though, like instant gratification (getting ahold of people thru cell phones) and accessing websites and maybe not reading very much anymore, and maybe short attention spans, though this may be pure generalization and simplifying because not all of the younger ones have these problems.</p><p>All in all I do think that these gifted young ones hold promise for a better future (unlike their baby boomer forebearers who ended up not changing the system enough and living large materially in the eighties and nineties).&nbsp; I am sure we can learn lessons from each generation.&nbsp; Those who have direct experience, like the younger ones now, can share with others thru the net even more so today.</p><p>Kudos</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 19:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>My best to you and all others in discovering some of the hidden mysteries by direct experience...</p></blockquote></div><p>and you friend, I suspect most who are woken have become so through experiences not explainable through conventional means.</p><p>I think the awareness is globally beginning to speed up and many are experiencing ,more and more, hidden mysteries by direct experience.</p><p>Keep an eye on the young ones, they are far more advanced,aware and adult than we ever were.</p><br /><br /><p>As David once wrote:<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Coming into incarnation now through many of our babies are aspects of universal consciousness of considerable evolution.</p></blockquote></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 08:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>While on the run from the malevolent transdimensionals from one of the parallel Earths (like the film Philadelphia Experiment 2),</p><p>I was sitting down near a fence where my car had been impounded, and saw a crow (bird) land and then it started to morph and go between physically there, and then not there at all.&nbsp; Proof in my experience that there is a parallel(s) world.&nbsp; Also, while driving I have seen what some call spirtual birds amazingly appear out of nowhere in the air near my car.&nbsp; There are secret forces sometimes flying in tandem with my car and I can see the silver glints of their craft appear occasionally.&nbsp; I also see what the Gaelics call sgaileadh (flash or blink of light) either like a white diamond or indigo color.&nbsp; In a documentary about Margot Kidder, the actor from Superman the movie, they said she saw blinks of light as a child.</p><p>There was a song by Coldplay called the Speed of Sound and in it the lyrics go something like &quot;when you see the birds go flying from the underground you&#039;ll understand&quot;</p><p>The Gnostics believed Christ was incorporeal and that matter is evil.&nbsp; We are first and foremost spiritual beings, inhabiting material bodies (the song Spirits in the Material World by the Police and Sting).&nbsp; When we die, we move on.&nbsp; I am not sure I agree totally with the Gnostics but it would explain that if Christ was even partially incorporeal, that would explain some of his extraordinary feats like walking on water and his resurection and appearances to his disciples after his crucifixion.&nbsp; There were ufo&#039;s or discoid flying craft depicted in many ancient paintings and one entitled &quot;The Crucifixion&quot; from the 12th or 13th century showing a hovering craft in the background sky over the cross that crucified Christ.&nbsp; One could also explain Christ&#039;s miracles by determing he had help from the angels (possibly what one would call highly advanced humans or ultra-terrestrials capable of trans dimensional and time travel).&nbsp; One could explain the parting of the Red Sea for Moses as a force field beam emanating from a cylindrical ufo.</p><p>There are many mysteries that have to be experienced to be believed.&nbsp; Just my relating these things to you may not convince you of a kind of Matrix.&nbsp; The Gnostics (early heretical Christians) believed in genuine knowledge coming from direct experience.&nbsp; In which case, its awfully hard to understand these phenomena and believe in them solely by second or third hand telling.</p><p>My best to you and all others in discovering some of the hidden mysteries by direct experience...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 20:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>And adding about Ron Paul, yes, he&#039;s a wonderful yet he is barely a blip on the MSM radar.&nbsp; He&#039;s one of the candidates that many on the left and right could come together on, but again, the MSM hasn&#039;t approved of him so he is a nobody.&nbsp; &nbsp; And think what happend to Howard Dean after he said he wanted to break up media consolidation....they took his exuberant yell and ran him down with it.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 07:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Ape-x: Tha matrix is so thoroughly an invisible fence- it is astonishing.</p></blockquote></div><p>I have often observed this phenomenon as well.&nbsp; &nbsp; I&#039;ve always thought of it myself as the &quot;circle of hell theory&quot;.&nbsp; &nbsp; Dante had 9, but I like to think there are more.&nbsp; &nbsp;Sometimes I feel like I personally might be on say Level 39, and on level 39 I get to have level 39 experiences, meet people, have relationships, opportunities, misfortunes, and experiences that all have level 39 qualities but keep me locked in....like your invisible fence.&nbsp; &nbsp;I do observe that not every is on 39, certain people have a very different but yet extremely consistent set of experiences...say level 32...and they are as locked into their reality as well no matter how much they wish not to be and struggle against it.&nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>Now I&#039;ve considered the possibility that if you are born on level 50 say, and grow up with that world view then by the laws of attraction it is quite likely that one would <strong>expect</strong> level 50 things to occur, put their energy behind level 50 mindset, and so keep themselves trapped.&nbsp; &nbsp;And yet....I have some skepticism because some things that have kept me locked at my level truly are not things that I ever envisioned and are very direct sabatoges of my efforts which would have shifted my reality.&nbsp; &nbsp;That hardly seems to fit in with the LoA.&nbsp; &nbsp; That is part of what has kept me searching for better and more complete answers.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 07:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well I guess I took neither pill, I do have this thing against pharma, and false choices.</p><p>What really convinced me of the matrix is that at each seemingly new opportunity, there is always another dead end. You know, the fake door with the brick wall behind it.</p><p>Humans in my opinion do not have the collective intellect, patience or strategizing skills that are required for extremely long-term plans to come to fruition.</p><p>This box was not designed by us. For example, the Ron Paul rage on the internet is being decisively distorted and ignored. Those of us who are regulars online know full well how many people want him to win. But to win you must first get on the ticket. If these polls continue to be skewed so perversely (as I expect they will) then his chance is less than nil. Always a huge gulf between public perception, and media&#039;s portrayal of that same public perception. They have used this trick since probably before the printing press was invented.</p><p>So ultimately, even if he was a clear favorite of every American of voting age, he will be made a non-entity, and the rest of the public will still believe that somehow he just didn&#039;t get the votes.</p><p>This seems to be the end result of every temporary ray of light. Window is cracked open slightly, then slammed shut. And we fall for it again and again. I am including myself in that statement.</p><p>Tha matrix is so thoroughly an invisible fence- it is astonishing. </p><p>What human mind (or even large numbers of them) could have foreseen every last avenue we could take, and make it a dead end?&nbsp; Existence and control seem to be inseparable, unless you are of the controller persuasion.</p><p>If we could see a trace, like an oscilloscope image, of the course of humanity&#039;s emotional highs and lows over the eons- I think it would be a perfect peak-and-trough waveform. Which means nothing ever really changes, until we depart.</p><p>I really do hope there is some truth to &quot;to die is gain&quot;, because it is the best many of us can do to keep our heads above the quicksand.....&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; J</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 03:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: what convinced you of the matrix?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Vajra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hi I&#039;m new and just going to jump right in.&nbsp; &nbsp;There is a question I&#039;ve been wanting to ask ever since I discovered this world of &quot;fringe&quot; knowledge.&nbsp; &nbsp; How many of you feel that you know for a fact, in your own personal experience, that this matrix world exists with beings intent on harvesting negative energy, engineering events in our lives, repressing our own enlightenment?&nbsp; &nbsp;What convinced you? <br />vajra</p></blockquote></div><p>I took the red one <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /><br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://samadhisoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/redpillbluepill.jpg" alt="http://samadhisoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/redpillbluepill.jpg" /></span></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 10:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m new here as well and I don&#039;t find the <em>matrix</em> as metaphor to be too descriptive without much distortion. For me it&#039;ll always be the Wachowski Bros trilogy-that-should-have-been-a-duo. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /> I don&#039;t find STS hijinks to be so monolithic, and I have yet to experience those of negative advocacy as respecting free will.</p><p>I think what&#039;s occurring is that as one discovers the physical to be inextricable from the metaphysical along their spiritual path, different STS actors/actions start to be conflated. Each one deserves consideration of its unique identifiers, material and temporal.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 07:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Vajra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>lyra, I guess what I was putting out there was whether the backward reality ripples account for <strong>all</strong> of these precursor signs.&nbsp; &nbsp; How do you tell the difference between intentionally placed signs and ripple signs sense you think there can be both?</p></blockquote></div><p>There is no way to tell for sure, but if I were to take a guess, I&#039;m thinking that in cases where TV show plots or movie plots were near identical to what ended up happening on 9/11, then it seems to be one of those knowing warnings.&nbsp; &nbsp;That now infamous episode of &quot;The Lone Gunman&quot; back in 2001 comes to mind;&nbsp; there was also something weird that was in the Geena Davis movie &quot;The Long Kiss Goodnight&quot; that seemed to be spelling out a scenario that was yet to come, things like that.&nbsp; They seem to be instances of something directly spelling something out for us.&nbsp; But when stuff is really subtle and only noticeable as a symbolism after the fact then it it&#039;s probably a backwards time ripple.&nbsp; I don&#039;t know, I&#039;m just guessing.&nbsp; &nbsp;</p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Vajra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>And humans, not aliens, were the ones involved - omg!&nbsp; &nbsp;And yet that is plausible.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yes, and more plausible then aliens....although for many it&#039;s certainly more fun and fanciful to imagine aliens as being completely behind everything while the government is on par with the public technology-wise and knowledge-wise.&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" />&nbsp; *cough*&nbsp; I actually think there are both humans and non-humans behind various things, sometimes in collusion with each other, many groups with many agendas...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 00:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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