Noble Realms — No planes, no passengers.

Re: No planes, no passengers.

null@example.com (feedbaxlow) — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:10:06 +0000

Well, After spending a lot of time watching the various productions this one doesn't convince me, but it is certainly a possibility that it was a missile. It looks like a real (probably remote controlled) plane to me.
If you wanted to analyze it professionally then you take it apart pixel by pixel in a methodical way with intense graphic programs that would be able to detect a fraud or manipulations with accuracy. I mean anyone with common sense can see that against the sky, the plane would look darker than it, and from another angle (underneath) the wings would reflect light. Common optical effects. Light or dark "color" is in relationship to reflection and the angle and the background. This should be obvious and makes any serious considerations of the material unlikely. That does not mean that it wasn't manipulated graphically on the news footage or that it wasn't a missile. This just isn't the quality of production that will get any serious notice on that point.
It's hardly the point whether it was a plane or a missile that hit the towers. It's obvious that there was manipulation of the plot (even if it was actually executed by Muslim extremists) and a massive yet unconvincing cover up to the skeptical veiwer.
I wasn't there so i can't pretend to be sure of anything. Just giving feedback and adding my 2 cents worth.

Re: No planes, no passengers.

null@example.com (Jezreel) — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:23:48 +0000

feedbaxlow wrote:

. Many eyewitnesses saw the planes crash into the buildings. ".

Do you not find it surprising how many of these witnesses work for the MSM and just happened to be in the vicinity at the right time, or the witness that was adamant that there was no plane who was quickly brushed off by the reporter. I know its a hard thing to get your head round that such an operation could be pulled off, its an idea I only came accross in the last couple of weeks but the more I look into it the more I am sure thats how it happened. I also think you are being a bit unfair calling the video amateurish.

The whole incident was planned right down to the last detail, using planes was just too risky.

Re: No planes, no passengers.

null@example.com (Soloflecks) — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 19:36:10 +0000

Yes, thank you for that.

Re: No planes, no passengers.

null@example.com (feedbaxlow) — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 19:18:36 +0000

BTW to Henster and Soloflecks.
I doubt very much this was due to direct planning and involvement of the "administartion" per say, but by those that are "above them", so to speak. that Bushco gained advantage from all this is not merely incidental, but part of the same monstrous conspiracy. They are merely players in the game
The Demolition of the Towers appears to have been planned in conjunction with the crashes/"attacks" - rigged and executed by experts hired by the same secret CIA/ Shadow Govt spooks that have been staging and supporting assassinations and coups (Including JFK and RFK) and political destabilizations across the world since the 60's. They are a nefarious bunch that have been working for the Military industrial/Media/energy complex and wealthy ownership class that profits from war. These are also exploited by the darkside aliens who really have the power/reigns. If you want to run the planet's agenda, you take control of the minds of those that own the 95% of the works and live to exploit and manipulate in their turn.
Everyone of these "players" has their part and own particular reasons... it is way to complicated for one person to know or understand. For some it is money, for some it's power. All of them are vulnerable to and "controlled" by the darkness somehow.

Re: No planes, no passengers.

null@example.com (feedbaxlow) — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:53:53 +0000

This is the most unconvincing of any of the analysis of the 9/11 video footage i've seen. Almost all the noted inconsistencies are easily explainable due to light effects, angles and light reflection, for example why the plain appears gray against the sky and white from below. The one thing that is odd on all the "live" footage (and we of course have to take your word that that is what this is), the short black out just before impact. Nothing else is convincing about this. Many eyewitnesses saw the planes crash into the buildings. There are a lot of strange things about the reporting analysis and cover stories but this is off track mostly
It is an extremely amateurish attempt to analyze the incident.
If you want to see some good analysis of the events look at the following. It concentrates only on the tower collapse research.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid … 1483512003
The "Loose Change" film is OK, but not very in depth and a little wild. It covers all the events and notably questions whether the pentagon and PA. crashes actuallly happened at all.
That an enemy of the Clintons (mentioned above)was included in the Pentagon plane crash would make sense, to explain her disappearance after a hit on her by the same "organization".

Re: No planes, no passengers.

null@example.com (SHUSAFLYIN) — Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:46:44 +0000

I've always found it suspicious that Barbara Olson would be a passenger on one plane ( Pentagon) .. she had written one book about Hillary ( Hell to Pay) trying to expose her hidden agendas and had just finished The Final Days , expose' of the Clinton administration when 9/11 occurred .... It all gets your mind so twisted ... was Barbara 'in on it' - alive and well somewhere else? or is she a victim of Clinton's wrath -- which leaves you numb to think people could orchestrate such wrath .... or simply bad luck in taking flight that day? ..... What do all of you think or know? .....

Re: No planes, no passengers.

null@example.com (panda) — Sat, 14 Jul 2007 04:47:05 +0000

It's mentioned in the Cs transcript, (look around 9/11 in the dates on the index page). But I dont think it mentions what happened to the people...could be mistaken though.

Re: No planes, no passengers.

null@example.com (SHUSAFLYIN) — Sat, 14 Jul 2007 03:26:07 +0000

Is there any 'channeled' information about 9/11 that we could trust to discern what happened to all those people?

Re: No planes, no passengers.

null@example.com (druid) — Sat, 14 Jul 2007 01:56:44 +0000

I personally do not believe that "no plane hit the twin towers", because the documentaries that claim to proove this are also media productions. a media production claiming there was manipulation of the media video reports on 9/11, this is orinical. How can we know for sure that one is true and the other isn't: they are both media productions!

On the other hand, I am not sure if the 'planes' were actual commercial airliners (boeing).

Being unidentified, in my opinion, this makes them UFOs stricto sensu (unidentified flying object).

There are many weird ufo things that were captured by cameras... have you seen them?

Do you know what the Cs said about them?

This is more scary that the whole human-side of the conspiracy.

Re: No planes, no passengers.

null@example.com (Truth Minion) — Sat, 14 Jul 2007 01:32:06 +0000

Jezreel wrote:

45 passengers reported killed
Only 6 of the names appear on SSDI

45=9

9 = airplane
6 = grave

"As above so bellow!"

http://home.online.no/~luneng/999.html

Wow! What an "intellect"!

(That is... If that information is the Truth, and not disinfo.)

Re: No planes, no passengers.

null@example.com (Jezreel) — Sat, 14 Jul 2007 01:15:49 +0000

UNITED 93

45 passengers reported killed
Only 6 of the names appear on SSDI
None of the families applied for compensation

http://www.wingtv.net/thornarticles/911 … rlist.html

Re: No planes, no passengers.

null@example.com (gcg) — Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:27:50 +0000

Read somewhere that "important" passengers like the wife of Olsen (the lawyer who represented Bush and obtained his presidential "anointment" from the Supreme Court) were not killed, but given new identities and are alive somewhere in Europe. In other storylines, there were far fewer passengers on these flights than reported in the media. There is also a report that the planes were not standard passenger aircraft but drones flown wirelessly. NO HUMAN PARTS found at the Pennsylvania crash site, the source of all the faked cell phone calls to relatives. The most humorous call occurred between a male passenger and his mother. He identifies himself to his mother as follows: "Hi Mom. This is your son [Paul, John, or whoever]!" Have you EVER said that to your parents when calling home, as if they wouldn't know it's you or recognize your voice?

In addition. all the so-called cell phone messages were faked using voice ID software. It was impossible to use personal cell phones on flights in 2001 to "call home" from the skies, as planes travel too high above the earth-based signaling towers and few normals have wireless phone service from satellite providers.

There are bigger holes in the 911 disaster than the one that sunk the Titanic!

Re: No planes, no passengers.

null@example.com (ShineOn) — Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:53:39 +0000

I've contended for some time that the Twin Towers were built with their targeted destruction to happen that day. Operation Northwoods was devised in 1959, a decade before they broke ground on the WTC. "We need a bigger Rheistag fire, much bigger" ......an utterance probably evoked about the time they were shoving the Summer of Love bullshit at us.

Re: No planes, no passengers.

null@example.com (Soloflecks) — Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:50:42 +0000

Nor would I. Even though I don't know exactly how they did it, I know they did it. That's all I need to know really.

Re: No planes, no passengers.

null@example.com (henster) — Fri, 13 Jul 2007 03:12:58 +0000

you know the administaration is maniacal, but you don't think they're potential mass murderers? i would'nt even blink if i found out they took the passengers into a factory and gassed them. really.