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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dreamosis wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>ElizabethIII, I guess I&#039;m most interested in how you use elemental energy in private meditation, self-healing, other-healing.&nbsp; Have you found any specific use for them in dreamwork?</p></blockquote></div><p>Well again, no problem for me to generally describe, however the details are probably different than most are used to.&nbsp; I learned healting through Hermetics, so I don&#039;t know these other ways at all.&nbsp; I have always used the natural world for healing, this includes the elements and the elemental beings and other beings including angels.&nbsp; When I begin a healing session for myself or others, I start by drawing in general grounding energies from the Earth and from the Cosmos and then also from the four elements and four archangels.&nbsp; Most usually the angels that are required come to my mind first and they are associated with an element and a direction as well.&nbsp; Maybe this sounds complicated...but once you do it it can be done quite quickly.</p><p>For meditation it is the same.&nbsp; I draw energy from earth and cosmos for grounding and then draw from the four elements and four directions.&nbsp; I have meditated for years and it was when I started doing this drawing of energy when my meditations really began to change in leaps and bounds for the better.</p><p>But the above is not using the elemental beings.&nbsp; Just the energies of the elements themselves.&nbsp; There is an important difference there.&nbsp; I do not &quot;willy-nilly&quot; conjure beings to do &quot;just anything&quot;.&nbsp; In general for my own knowledge and learning, I would invoke an elemental.&nbsp; For my education, to be simple about it.&nbsp; They are teachers and will teach you a lot of things actually.&nbsp; Plus it becomes a beautiful and poetic experience after which you usually are highly creative and happy.&nbsp; On a level that you are usually not aware of until it is done, you will start a process I call reconciliation.&nbsp; That can be simply described as the state between a large knowledge &quot;download&quot; and the reconciliation process that happens before it all becomes clear in your mind.&nbsp; That is, when you are using meditation and life as a learning and growing experience - there are periods of time when you almost seem as if you are in limbo or cannot think.&nbsp; That is reconciliation.&nbsp; The &quot;blank&quot; before the realization or ephiphany.&nbsp; </p><p>Though invocation is not meditation, which is important also, personally I would not advise daily meditations with elementals.&nbsp; It would be great at first but the danger to your psyche becomes greater.&nbsp; There are many people who have done this and are having real world problems...and it can become quite a real world problem.&nbsp; These beings operate under rules we do not...and if you do not understand the rules, chances are you are not going to be able to identify the problems until they are very deeply rooted.&nbsp; These rules or so are found in Bardon&#039;s work... his work is always a good place to start for a better explanation.&nbsp; It has been years since I have started Hermetics so I may not be as good at explaining the basics.</p><p>Hmmm.&nbsp; lol I hope that was not confusing. </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>dreamosis wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;m sure it&#039;ll be a while before I try evoking any elemental being.</p></blockquote></div><p>I actually would not recommend neither true invocation nor evocation of anything without proper study first.&nbsp; Invocation is not just asking something to come into you and guide you...it is the presense of a being and it also is not always just with you.&nbsp; Generally it is as dangerous as evocation however the large difference being that evocation you are actually making conditions right for physical manifestation.</p><p>I would also like to state that I am not a &quot;new age&quot; person, I am a magician and the working of magic in whatever aspect may be similar to a lot of other systems or beliefs or new age guru plans.... I will say to that...what seems <strong>similar</strong> on the surface, is very <strong>different</strong> in the underlying scope of things.&nbsp; The world of self discovery that I see a lot of people talk about is only a minute fraction of what there is to find and know.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 15:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The paradigms are different.<br />Uncorrelated paradigms.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 08:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>AB in terms of how hermetic philosophy would categorize it, wood/earth/metal are all part of the Earth element.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 04:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>How about the five elements of water/wood/fire/earth/metal ?</p><p><a href="http://www.biom.net/5_element_theory.htm">http://www.biom.net/5_element_theory.htm</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 03:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Okay, yeah, duh, Mistele...I could&#039;ve read the author&#039;s name when I read the article.</p><p>ElizabethIII, I guess I&#039;m most interested in how you use elemental energy in private meditation, self-healing, other-healing.&nbsp; Have you found any specific use for them in dreamwork?&nbsp; </p><p>I&#039;m sure it&#039;ll be a while before I try evoking any elemental being.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ElizabethIII wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>What was and still is most useful to me in the study of Hermetics, and please keep in mind I have also combined Bardon with older forms of Hermeticism, it is the connection to nature.&nbsp; The meditating within and around it, and letting the Universe be my guide.&nbsp; It has never steered me wrong, and in those times when life has been something other than the wonderful thing it is, it was because I was denying what is natural and right in front of me.&nbsp; Hermetics is extremely natural...it&#039;s the most natural thing/concept/philosophy/system I have ever encountered and I believe it is also the basis, holds the keys and the structure to what magic is and should still be today if it weren&#039;t for the distortions over the years.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you for that! I particularly like how the system is structured and I see your point how it is very natural. Mr. Mistele emphasizes that Bardon&#039;s system is merely trying to get you to experience life in a deeper and richer way by developing all your senses. </p><p>You also mentioned how it can very dangerous... Mr. Mistele does discuss some of the problems with working with this sort of system. It can potentially make you devolve and move spirally downwards. As you said, problems may be astral, mental and physically. What I understand is that if you live a balanced life and you have mastered everyday life then and only then should you proceed with this development because it can be very intense, dangerous and it will take a lot of time to work on. Also Bardon emphasizes if you are working on this for merely selfish reasons then stop working on it. Transmute those negative soul characteristics into positive ones using the black and white mirrors in step 1.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 03:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dreamosis wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Hildegarde wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You&#039;ve worked with Mr. Mistele. I love what he writes!</p></blockquote></div><p>Who&#039;s Mistele?</p></blockquote></div><p>He is the man who Hildegarde quoted in their post <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Hildegarde wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>That is intense. You&#039;ve worked with Mr. Mistele. I love what he writes! He makes magick sound poetic, alluring, beautiful and powerful yet dangerous. <br />IIH is such a powerful system for initiation, and a very complete one for that matter. When you started this system, what resources/ideas/techniques did you find useful in helping you be successful with this path?</p></blockquote></div><p>Yes actually, William and I did some psychic work several years ago and he was very instrumental with my Hermetic development, though not what he would call a mentor or master as he does not really &#039;roll&#039; that way <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" />&nbsp; However, it is to him I attribute my relationship with angels, of which, I most likely would have missed out on and also my first experience with a nymph and an undine.&nbsp; </p><p>True, he is one of the most beautiful bards I have ever read or had the opportunity to speak with.</p><p>What was and still is most useful to me in the study of Hermetics, and please keep in mind I have also combined Bardon with older forms of Hermeticism, it is the connection to nature.&nbsp; The meditating within and around it, and letting the Universe be my guide.&nbsp; It has never steered me wrong, and in those times when life has been something other than the wonderful thing it is, it was because I was denying what is natural and right in front of me.&nbsp; Hermetics is extremely natural...it&#039;s the most natural thing/concept/philosophy/system I have ever encountered and I believe it is also the basis, holds the keys and the structure to what magic is and should still be today if it weren&#039;t for the distortions over the years.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Dreamosis wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well, what do you personally use each element for?</p></blockquote></div><p>This is/can be a very involved question and I would like to be sure that my answer is geared toward what you had in mind when you asked it.&nbsp; Do you mean what do I use them for as in &#039;energy work&#039; or &#039;healing&#039; type things... or do you want the whole...erm...what may be a book explanation?&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>Hermetics involves the balanced development of the magician.&nbsp; That is, all planes in this world that a human exists on is worked on together, in a balanced way.&nbsp; I personally, and to answer your question generally, use all elements for all things at all times.&nbsp; It is where I am at in my magical study.&nbsp; Though this is because I first and foremost work on balancing the elements within myself, once that is accomplished, the energetic force of all elements work in united harmony.</p><p>Though if you mean which elementals I call on for what tasks... that really is another involved answer and I&#039;ll wait to even find out if that was what you were looking for.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Dreamosis wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>What sort of warnings would you give about working with them?&nbsp; Specifically with elemental beings.</p></blockquote></div><p>It will do well to remember that elementals are not human.&nbsp; And it is best to never anthropomorphize them.&nbsp; It is also important to remember their value system is much different, such as what they find moral or amoral and etc.&nbsp; Also, they will but do not technically like to work one on one.&nbsp; That is... if you are using them as a teaching aid, as a guide, to the mysteries of the universe and the natural world...then one should do well.&nbsp; If you are trying to use them for personal things...say like you ask one to show you what you specifically need for a certain task...I would say to plan not only to not really have an answer, but if you get one, you will not understand it...and prepare for negative things to happen.&nbsp; They do not exist to help the individual.&nbsp; They exist to help the world, the whole, the big picture.</p><p>This is not to say that you will not find inner development through their invocation or evocation, but the wisdom and knowledge comes from a place it is difficult to get a human brain around and ... well.. it is very complicated.</p><p>I will tell you right now... unless you would like to suffer, I would not advise you purposefully invoke elementals unless you have a general working grasp of them, and one of the best places to start is Franz Bardon&#039;s IIH.</p><p>It can be dangerous, not only on the level of the psyche, but also astrally, energetically and yes, physically.&nbsp; Often elementals will give you an item.&nbsp; Make sure not to use the item unless you completely understand its use...or you may find yourself in situations that at the best, will be hard to explain to other people around you.</p><p>Working with elementals, no matter what the popular or current understanding is out there in new ageland...most often is not entirely correct and it absolutely can be dangerous in many ways.&nbsp; Also, the assumption that things cannot hurt you if you deny their existence...well.. that&#039;s poop as far as I am concerned....and I would imagine not the general norm of how things are thought of at NR...but I figured I would throw it out there anyway.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 01:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Hildegarde wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You&#039;ve worked with Mr. Mistele. I love what he writes!</p></blockquote></div><p>Who&#039;s Mistele?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ElizabethIII wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well. I am a Hermetic ceremonial magician. Bardon&#039;s books were some of my first on the tradition, through them and actually, through friendship and study with Mr. Mistele (who&#039;s work is cited) is how I came to know and understand energy work many years ago.&nbsp; It was not until I started looking for some things online last year that I came across the term &#039;energyworker&#039;.&nbsp; So I assumed what I did was similar to the popular concept, but it may not be.&nbsp; Difficult for me to judge since I have not read the book you mentioned nor any of Mr. Bruce&#039;s work and really no modern texts about it.</p><p>Though the elements and working with them has been a strong part of my practice for about 15 years and the invocation and evocation of elemental beings has also been a part of that practice.&nbsp; However, they are also very different experiences, in that even though the elements are the essence of the elementals, they still are very different beings, or if you rather, energies.</p><p>So, in my energy work and practice I do use the classic elements and also including Akasha, but I am not sure how my definition or style of energy work differs from anyone that may be here. ... Given that, I&#039;m not sure what else to say but I can answer any of your questions from my perspective and experience if you would like.</p></blockquote></div><p>ElizabethIII,</p><p>That is intense. You&#039;ve worked with Mr. Mistele. I love what he writes! He makes magick sound poetic, alluring, beautiful and powerful yet dangerous. <br />IIH is such a powerful system for initiation, and a very complete one for that matter. When you started this system, what resources/ideas/techniques did you find useful in helping you be successful with this path?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ElizabethIII wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>... Given that, I&#039;m not sure what else to say but I can answer any of your questions from my perspective and experience if you would like.</p></blockquote></div><p>Well, what do you personally use each element for?</p><p>What sort of warnings would you give about working with them?&nbsp; Specifically with elemental beings.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dreamosis wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I recently picked up &quot;Intiation into Hermetics&quot; (Franz Bardon) and &quot;Energywork&quot; (Robert Bruce).&nbsp; Bruce seemed to be influenced by Bardon, but both talk about incorporating the visualization of elements in running energy sessions.</p><p>Does anybody have experience in specifically working with the classical elements (air/water/fire/earth/ether) in their energywork practice?</p></blockquote></div><p>Well. I am a Hermetic ceremonial magician. Bardon&#039;s books were some of my first on the tradition, through them and actually, through friendship and study with Mr. Mistele (who&#039;s work is cited) is how I came to know and understand energy work many years ago.&nbsp; It was not until I started looking for some things online last year that I came across the term &#039;energyworker&#039;.&nbsp; So I assumed what I did was similar to the popular concept, but it may not be.&nbsp; Difficult for me to judge since I have not read the book you mentioned nor any of Mr. Bruce&#039;s work and really no modern texts about it.</p><p>Though the elements and working with them has been a strong part of my practice for about 15 years and the invocation and evocation of elemental beings has also been a part of that practice.&nbsp; However, they are also very different experiences, in that even though the elements are the essence of the elementals, they still are very different beings, or if you rather, energies.</p><p>So, in my energy work and practice I do use the classic elements and also including Akasha, but I am not sure how my definition or style of energy work differs from anyone that may be here. ... Given that, I&#039;m not sure what else to say but I can answer any of your questions from my perspective and experience if you would like.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 11:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Windrunner and Hildegard.&nbsp; I&#039;ll check out that book.&nbsp; And the essay has loads of interesting tidbits.&nbsp; Reading over it, I realized that it&#039;s easy for me to connect to fire and earth, but more difficult to connect to air and water.&nbsp; It&#039;s probably most hard for me to channel air elemental energy.&nbsp; </p><p>I did a meditation with a friend last night using &quot;air&quot; energy, however, and it was great.&nbsp; It was very subtle--the sensations were strong, but subtle.&nbsp; It felt like a five mile-per-hour breeze.&nbsp; If nothing else, it balanced me--I was feeling down all day, but normal after the meditation.&nbsp; </p><p>This might be going off-topic a little, but reading through the essay also reminded me John Baines &quot;The Stellar Man&quot;--the chapter about how elementals sometimes incarnate into human bodies.&nbsp; I wonder if I know any...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>This article from helped me get my head around what exactly the elements represent and how they think.</p><p>----<br /><a href="http://www.lava.net/~pagios/4elmpsy.html">http://www.lava.net/~pagios/4elmpsy.html</a></p><p>Copyright (C) 1998 by William Mistele.&nbsp; All rights reserved. <br />Note:&nbsp; For this essay, I worked with Jvar, a spirit in Leo of the<br />earthzone who specializes in developing an equilibrium between the<br />four elements.</p><p><strong>Introduction to the Psychology of the Four Elements</strong></p><p>The first step in working with a psychology of the four elements<br />involves creating elemental sensations within ourselves through<br />force of imagination. The sensation relating to each element has to<br />be fully felt. Once we can generate a particular sensation in<br />ourselves by will,&nbsp; we can then tie that sensation into the basic<br />qualities of the element.&nbsp; This approach illuminates many aspects of<br />the astral body which modern psychology fails to consider. <br />&nbsp; &nbsp;In regard to each of four elements, I refer you to my separate<br />essays on finding the sylph, gnome, salamander, and undine in<br />yourself.&nbsp; Though these articles derive directly from working with<br />elemental beings, I present the results as meditations which require<br />that you venture no further than the domain of your own<br />imagination.&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp;Also see my different dialogues with the elemental beings.&nbsp; For all<br />their metaphysical explorations, these are not platonic dialogues. <br />They take place in a state of trance in which I encounter and wrestle<br />with the inner core essence of these marvelous spirits of nature.&nbsp; Yet<br />though I present these stories as journeys into invisible and magical<br />realms, the elemental beings embody treasures of spirit and feeling<br />which are part of our own nature.</p><p> Fire</p><p>We practice seeing and feeling fire.&nbsp; We evoke the sensation of<br />intense heat within ourselves.&nbsp; The basic procedure is to imagine<br />that our bodies are hollow inside and so able to accumulate any<br />energy we wish.&nbsp; When we are done, we imagine that the energy<br />dissolves again into the universe.&nbsp; Let us talk about the difficulties<br />with this concentration exercise. <br />&nbsp; &nbsp;Some individuals will be hesitant to work directly with fire.&nbsp; This<br />may be because fire is dangerous.&nbsp; It can burn you.&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp;It may also be that they are uneasy with the idea of developing<br />their will and power. They may feel it is hard enough keeping one&#039;s<br />desires and impulses in check.&nbsp; If you develop your power, you<br />immediately run the risk of abusing that power. Passions out of<br />control may end up controlling you and causing all sorts of harm to<br />yourself and others. These concerns are very important and<br />individuals should listen to their own consciences on these matters. <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; You will recall from Greek mythology that Zeus chained the titan<br />Prometheus to a mountain crag and had hawks tear out his liver. <br />Zeus was mad at Prometheus for giving fire to the human race. <br />Each day the titan&#039;s liver would regenerate only to be torn out again.<br />The liver can be seen as representing natural growth and spiritual<br />consciousness.&nbsp; In bestowing the gift of fire to humanity,<br />Prometheus was giving power without the spiritual ability to know<br />how to use it wisely.&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; One way to work with the element of fire is to review fire in all<br />the ways it exists in nature, in society, and within ourselves.&nbsp; Life<br />was able to appear on our planet because of the heat and light of the<br />sun.&nbsp; But it took billions of years for this to occur and the earth had<br />to have a stable orbit and the right distance from the sun.<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; There are many forms of fire which exist in nature.&nbsp; The volcano<br />and forest fire are impersonal forces and extremely dangerous to<br />life.&nbsp; And yet the fire in the earth moves continents, uplifts<br />mountains, creates islands, and provides a variety of ecological<br />habitats.&nbsp; As civilization has developed, we have learned to use the<br />wood, coal, coke, oil, and gas fires turning their heat to productive<br />ends.&nbsp; Consider the history of technology and both the positive and<br />negative purposes to which fire has been dedicated.&nbsp; Fire itself, like<br />a knife, can be used for healthy or for destructive ends. <br />&nbsp; &nbsp;Consider also the importance of warmth and heat to the human<br />body.&nbsp; For the past thirty thousand years, we have managed to<br />survive ice ages, winters, and freezing environments.&nbsp; We have<br />developed clothing, insulation, and various heating systems to keep<br />us warm.&nbsp; We have used fire to cook and produce many new kinds<br />of food.&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp;The point is that if you imagine your body filled with fiery flames<br />and heat you encounter a racial memory of all that fire means. <br />When you are evoking fire within yourself through the force of your<br />imagination, you need to make peace with both its productive and its<br />destructive aspects.&nbsp; You have to be comfortable with your ability to<br />use its power in natural ways which fulfil spiritual purposes. <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; On the other hand, try as they may some individuals will find it<br />hard to form a sensation of heat through concentration.&nbsp; They may<br />visualize a fire in front of them.&nbsp; They can just as easily see a fire<br />inside of their bodies.&nbsp; But nothing happens.&nbsp; There is no sensation<br />of heat which accompanies this imagery.<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; If, for example, the individual repeatedly places his hands near a<br />fire, he is still unable to get his nervous system to reproduce the<br />sensation of heat through concentration.&nbsp; The problem here is that<br />the individual&#039;s concentration on the mental plane is unable to<br />produce astral sensations.&nbsp; The astral body adds feelings of life and<br />immediacy to the imagery.&nbsp; When your concentration is effective on<br />the astral plane, as in a dream, you feel you are really there amid<br />whatever your visualize. <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; There are any number of ways of resolving this difficulty. <br />Basically, the idea is to become the fire.&nbsp; Make the fire part of<br />yourself.&nbsp; Treat fire as an extension of your own aura.&nbsp; Nourish it. <br />Care for it.&nbsp; Offer it welcome.&nbsp; Invite fire into yourself so it finds a<br />home and a place where it can grow strong.<br />&nbsp; For example, take some time to imagine you are collecting some<br />dry leaves and wood so that you can start an open fire out of doors. <br />Give your full attention to the match as it ignites and then starts the<br />dry leaves and wood burning.&nbsp; Assist the fire by placing small twigs<br />into the flames so that it can take hold.&nbsp; Then place a pan of water<br />over the fire with the intent you are going to bring the water to a<br />boil.&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; Assume the role of the fire like a cheerleader who encourages her<br />team to succeed.&nbsp; Become the heat which starts small bubbles and<br />then larger ones to appear in the water until the water finally boils. <br />Then imagine this entire visualization has taken place within your<br />own body.&nbsp; If in some way you can place emotion into your activity,<br />then it is easy to full the sensations which occur on the astral plane. <br />The heat in the fire then moves from a mental picture to an actual<br />sensation which is intense enough to feel real.&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; As I have pointed out elsewhere, there are Tibetan yogis who<br />visualize fire and manage to increase their body temperature by<br />seventeen degrees.&nbsp; This is no longer just a perceived sensation. <br />Scientists have measured it with a thermometer. <br />&nbsp; &nbsp;The next step is to imagine and believe quite clearly that the<br />presence of this element within yourself is the same as embodying<br />will.&nbsp; In psychological terms, fire radiates urgency, power, and light. <br />It is full of conviction and it dissolves fear.&nbsp; Because of its warmth<br />and dynamic presence, it gathers others to itself. It offers leadership,<br />courage, and a zest for living life.<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; Consider the affirmation:&nbsp; &quot;I am a strong and assertive individual. <br />I present myself in a clear and convincing way to other people.&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp;It<br />is possible to form a picture in your mind that you indeed embody<br />these qualities.&nbsp; But others may still see you as a whimp.&nbsp; They may<br />treat you like you are helpless and ineffective.&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; The reason for this is that you have failed to create an astral<br />component for this thought form.&nbsp; Your aura does not radiate any<br />power or charisma.&nbsp; The task is to combine the mental affirmation<br />with an astral sensation which radiates fiery power.&nbsp; Others will then<br />immediately feel the warmth of your aura and a source of power<br />within you which can take charge of any situation.<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;Again, there is the other extreme.&nbsp; Some individuals will find it<br />easy to produce in themselves the hot, burning sensation of a fire. <br />Some individuals with ease can imagine the entire world as one vast<br />sea of flames and feel that heat extending around them for miles. <br />They can do this because they have a natural ability or else they<br />have a vivid astral imagination.<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; But there may be a downside to this.&nbsp; If they expand the fire<br />element in their auras, they may lack the ethics, character, and<br />commitment to use this force wisely.&nbsp; Sometimes at a red light, an<br />individual in one car with casually glance at someone in another car. <br />The second person may have an astral body full of fire which is<br />ready to ignite.&nbsp; The glance is like striking a match.&nbsp; The encounter<br />results in violence.&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp;In this case, the feeling of power with its urgent need to act and to<br />dominate the situation produces negative results. The fire has not<br />been channeled through an alert and clear mind.&nbsp; Blind emotion has<br />taken control.&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp;Consequently, when the fiery element in the astral body is easily<br />stimulated, the individual has to spend more time working on the<br />mental plane.&nbsp; The purposes for which will and power are to be<br />used must be carefully reviewed.&nbsp; The individual has to identity and<br />commit himself to core values which are persuasive enough to hold<br />the negative aspects of fire in check.</p><p>Air </p><p>As with fire, you imagine your body is a hollow space and that only<br />the air element exists within you. You might imagine yourself to be<br />like a helium balloon so you feel weightless.&nbsp; You feel yourself float<br />up into the sky.&nbsp; The sensation of weightlessness and floating is<br />basic. <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; Then you extend your imagination further.&nbsp; You imagine the<br />winds are part of your body.&nbsp; The vacuum into which air flows is<br />like your lungs exerting a pull as you inhale.&nbsp; Actually, there is a<br />rhythmic flow in the winds and the seasons which is like breathing. <br />Like a sylph, you probe and search for the harmony underlying air<br />movements and weather patterns.&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp;And finally you become the winds.&nbsp; If you open your mind and<br />meditate, you become the trade winds, the north wind, the<br />hurricane, the thunderstorm, and the tiny gust that twirls the leaves<br />in your garden.&nbsp; In meditation, there is no light or energy the mind<br />can not find and reproduce to some extent within itself.&nbsp; Becoming<br />familiar with the sky is just a matter of practice and taking time. <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; The air element can also be overdeveloped within an individual. <br />If you make astral contact with the air element or communicate with<br />sylphs, there is a tendency for the other elements in yourself to be<br />shoved aside.&nbsp; This may lead you to a part of yourself which is wild<br />and restless. It is impersonal, distant, and aloof.&nbsp; It is not at all<br />concerned with the worries and responsibilities of human beings.&nbsp; It<br />knows itself to be free and so it no longer cares about the demands<br />of society, personality, or human feeling.&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp;An individual with this passive aspect of the air element may be<br />alert, detached, and balanced within himself.&nbsp; But he can also be<br />insensitive to the extent of becoming amoral.&nbsp; This is not new<br />information. Psychology talks about psychopaths and authors write<br />about individuals who have lost their connections to others.&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp;However, the phenomenon I am describing derives from an astral<br />enchantment.&nbsp; Part of the individual&#039;s astral body is no longer<br />focused on human existence.&nbsp; &nbsp;The individual perceives the way a<br />sylph perceives or as the fairies of lore who enchant human beings<br />to come away with them to the inner planes.&nbsp; As William Butler<br />Yeats describes it: </p><p>Come away, O human child!<br />To the waters and the wild<br />With a fairy, hand in hand,<br />For the world&#039;s more full of weeping than you can understand.</p><p>Again, psychologists such as Carl Jung have written about a circle of<br />enchantment which holds human beings in enthrallment.&nbsp; The<br />individual is haunted and possessed by what is unfilled in the past,<br />by the unmet needs of childhood and family.&nbsp; He does not see the<br />actual situations he enters and other human beings as they are but<br />only a distorted reflection, an illusion seen from afar.&nbsp; Giving and<br />receiving, bonding, and intimacy are twisted and bent because the<br />heart is incomplete. <br />&nbsp; &nbsp;But the enchantment of air is slightly different.&nbsp; The individual has<br />an over abundance of the air element which lacks positive<br />expression.&nbsp; There is nothing a matter with having a sylph&#039;s<br />heightened awareness.&nbsp; The Dalai Lama&#039;s weather controller<br />possesses this as did ancient druids. <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; The sylph&#039;s sensitivity can take the form of a detachment which<br />blends freedom with a delight in pure perception. It is a thrilling<br />experience as are hang gliding and parasailing.&nbsp; It is easy when you<br />feel this relaxed and free to say to yourself, &quot;I am not a human<br />being.&nbsp; The life within me is altogether different that from what<br />others feel and see.&quot;&nbsp; When we are at play or entertained, we may<br />temporarily feel the same thing.&nbsp; We give ourselves permission to<br />forget about the rest of&nbsp; life for the duration. <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;But this suspending of daily demands, besides being a way to<br />recharge ourselves, has a productive side.&nbsp; An altered state of<br />perception enables us to see the world in new ways. The challenge is<br />to share this with others.&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; The poet does this.&nbsp; He perceive the delicate fragility and the<br />hidden beauty shining within each moment.&nbsp; When he writes or<br />speaks, he is sufficiently distant that he can savor pure feelings.&nbsp; But<br />he knows these feelings can only be expressed, found and met,<br />within the details and specific experiences of our lives.&nbsp; Each poem<br />is a steppingstone leading across the stream separating humanity<br />from the realms of fairy and the astral plane. <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; The artist does this.&nbsp; He says, &quot;Behold my art.&nbsp; It is a creation of<br />my imagination.&nbsp; Its images are a mirror capturing the light I see<br />reflected in life.&quot;&nbsp; And musicians do this when the music is just<br />right.&nbsp; They are no longer aware of themselves.&nbsp; The notes carry<br />them along.&nbsp; The song takes on its own life and they are within both<br />the human plane and another domain. <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; Too much airy substance in the soul tempts us all to let go and<br />forget our ties to others.&nbsp; Legend tells us of a race which could not<br />longer compete with human beings and so retreated from our world<br />to become a race of fairies.&nbsp; But even to these we might now say,<br />&quot;Return again and dwell among us.&nbsp; Share with us the things you<br />see and know that we too might behold the beauty of the world<br />around us.&quot;&nbsp; The remedy is not to retreat into detachment and a<br />realm of inner peace but to create new ways of sharing heart to<br />heart. <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; And finally there is the basic problem of developing astral<br />sensitivity. Many individuals see no further than the activities of<br />their daily lives.&nbsp; The consequence is that their emotional life is<br />limited in scope.&nbsp; In fact, most religions guide their practitioners into<br />a few sets of sacred experiences which are charged with astral<br />energy.&nbsp; Conversion, devotion, rapture, and commitment are<br />controlled and channeled in acceptable ways.&nbsp; Other profound<br />emotional experiences are labeled taboo and placed off limits or else<br />are ignored and considered to be irrelevant.<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;But if you look at a cloud it is constantly changing.&nbsp; If you focus<br />on a feeling within you and give it enough space to move, it will<br />continuously transform.&nbsp; Feelings are like the waters of the earth. <br />They run in underground streams.&nbsp; They are in the lakes, the seas,<br />the clouds, the rivers, the rain, and the ice caps.&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp;A sylph is aware of every aspect of a changing cloud and yet the<br />sylph remains detached.&nbsp; To work with the air element is to have<br />both inner balance and a sensitivity to every nuance and aspect of<br />feelings.&nbsp; Developing this sensitivity is something which psychology<br />shares in common with magick.&nbsp; Elsewhere I write about the method<br />of focusing which bridges the gap between transpersonal psychology<br />and magical practice.&nbsp; </p><p>Water</p><p>To develop the sensation of water which is cold and wet, imagine<br />you are swimming and diving in a stream, river, lake, or ocean.&nbsp; It is<br />possible to extend your meditations along these lines until the<br />sensations of water become quite strong.&nbsp; At some point along the<br />way, imagine yourself becoming the water surrounding your body. <br />Feel the swimmer and the diver moving through your space.&nbsp; And<br />again feel the coldness of water within your body as if your body is<br />hollow inside. <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; In my various stories about my encounters with the undines, I go<br />into detailed descriptions about their specific astral natures.&nbsp; The<br />four I describe are all loving, receptive, sensitive, empathic, healing,<br />and nurturing.&nbsp; Also, they each have a slightly different way they<br />communicate the bliss and ecstasy within the water element.&nbsp; These<br />undines are very enchanting and possess many magical secrets<br />relating to the water element. <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; From my experience, undines extend their auras out into the<br />watery domains surrounding them.&nbsp; If they wish to create an<br />atmosphere like a wondrous festival full of dancing and song, the<br />water is magnetized to express their feeling.&nbsp; If they wish to<br />communicate a profound state of oneness and love, again, the water<br />element becomes a vehicle which carries and amplifies their<br />intentions. <br />&nbsp; &nbsp;Our task in exploring the psychology of water is to do something<br />similar.&nbsp; Once we can clearly produce the sensations of cold water in<br />and around ourselves, then we imagine that this watery expanse acts<br />to express our feelings.&nbsp; Water absorbs, releases, flows and<br />circulates energy.&nbsp; In a similar way, our aura encompasses and<br />revives the life of those with whom we have contact.&nbsp; It produces a<br />magical space in which individuals are free to be receptive to each<br />other and to feel acceptance and love.&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp;As with the other elements,&nbsp; we now combine the energies of the<br />mental and astral planes.&nbsp; We need a clear definition and<br />commitment in our minds to all that water represents in its highest<br />sense.&nbsp; Again, the qualities are love, healing, nurturing, sensitivity,<br />acceptance, clairsentience, serenity, tranquility, purity, and so forth. <br />And we need a total and complete conviction that we exist within<br />and are a part of a magnetic watery field of energy flowing through<br />us and encompassing ourselves and others as well.&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp;Both the mental and astral planes with their different approach to<br />water must then be united in a natural way.&nbsp; Part of our success in<br />this endeavor will arise from our study and appreciation of other<br />individuals who express feelings and ideals of love in their<br />personalities.&nbsp; And part of our work will involve recognizing the<br />great variety of sensations and ways in which water exists in the<br />world of nature.&nbsp; Again, I have given examples through poems and<br />stories of ways the undines have sought to deepen my understanding<br />of the environment and element of water in which they live. <br />Ultimately, their domain and their range of activities are also our<br />own. </p><p>Earth</p><p>If we conceive of fire as will, air as intelligence and clarity of mind,<br />and water as love and affection, what then shall we make of the<br />element of earth?&nbsp; In way can earth represent the integration and<br />strength of consciousness?&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;The granite boulder is stable.&nbsp; It retains its shape, its form and<br />mass, and only very gradually changes. The precious stone is harder<br />and more enduring and yet its structure permits the energy of light<br />to pass through it.&nbsp; Ice is water in a solid form.&nbsp; Its molecules though<br />fixed cover a wider expanse so that it floats.&nbsp; Air is in water and<br />water is in the volcanic magma as it explodes.&nbsp; As the heat is<br />released, the flowing lava turns to stone. <br />&nbsp; &nbsp;Plants grow on the rich nutrients of volcanic islands.&nbsp; Topsoil<br />develops and then forests.&nbsp; The land mass provides an environment<br />where life can flourish.<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; Consciousness integrates the different aspects of ourselves. It is<br />the enduring and stable landscape where our soul and spirit<br />accomplish their tasks.&nbsp; Consciousness sets priorities, identifies<br />values, and applies its resources and time to productive ends.&nbsp; There<br />are conflicts between values, goals, desires, and different<br />individuals.&nbsp; Consciousness uses the understanding of air, the will of<br />fire, and the empathy of water to arrive at practical and satisfying<br />solutions.<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;The main sensations we are after with the earth element are<br />weight and density.&nbsp; You imagine yourself as a little more heavy. <br />Like a tree, you are rooted in the ground.&nbsp; Like a boulder,&nbsp; you are<br />solid and easily resist external influence.&nbsp; Increasing your sense of<br />weight and being grounded are part of the arts of Aikido and also<br />Tai Chi Chuan. <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; With the right piece of rock, there is a sense of time being<br />suspended.&nbsp; You remember the past.&nbsp; Your endure for ages.&nbsp; Even<br />the far future feels near at hand.&nbsp; The earth element has a stronger<br />continuity. Past, present, and future form a continuum.&nbsp; &nbsp;The events<br />of life occur along a time line.&nbsp; You do not have to rush anywhere. <br />You just use the present moment in the best way you can.<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;I place my hand on a standing stone five thousand years old. <br />There is nothing fancy about this stone circle.&nbsp; It seems quite casual<br />like an afterthought the way it is set down at the end of a cow<br />pasture on Mull Island, Scotland.&nbsp; But I think to myself that all the<br />events of human history from the Egyptian pyramids to the present<br />unfolded while these stone have stood here and waited. <br />&nbsp; &nbsp;Consciousness can take the events of our lives and give them<br />order and definition.&nbsp; It can say, &quot;This relationship and that event<br />are important to me.&nbsp; They always will be.&nbsp; These ideals I live for--<br />they are what give my life purpose.&nbsp; You see, amid all the changes--<br />the accidents, the failures, and the wrong turns--there is a core set of<br />values within myself which I uphold and experiences which I<br />honor.&quot; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Fire is tenacious but earth is persevering.&nbsp; Water offers love and<br />support, sweet intimacy and pleasure.&nbsp; But earth builds and provides<br />those things which satisfy our deepest desires. The air element likes<br />to think and to reason.&nbsp; It offers clarity so vast that the thought<br />process is lost in the illumination.&nbsp; But the earth element knows in its<br />heart that it is alive and participates in those purposes which endure<br />through all ages of time. <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; Earth cuts to the bottom line. It is not distracted by the urgency<br />and rapacious hunger of fire and all the issues surrounding the<br />maintenance of power.&nbsp; It is not so easily distracted by the<br />enchantments, romance, and passions of love.&nbsp; And though it too<br />seeks and reaches for peaks of understanding and illumination, it<br />does not fly off content to be detached or aloof.<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;Earth stays focused on the concrete and practical ways we can<br />materialize our ideals and operate in an effective manner in<br />accordance with our core values.&nbsp; It leaves behind a legacy.&nbsp; It<br />provides a foundation upon which future generations will build. <br />And if this sounds too abstract, then we can apply the same to our<br />own lives.&nbsp; In each stage of our life, we act with integrity and<br />accomplish our basic tasks.&nbsp; Then we are able to move forward and<br />succeed with what comes next. <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; In summary, this is only a tiny introduction to the psychology of<br />the four elements.&nbsp; I have not discussed here the ecstasies of the<br />four elements.&nbsp; And there are the four divine attributes relating to<br />different elements--omnipotence, enlightenment, omnipresence or<br />all-encompassing love, and immortality. <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;I have suggested elsewhere that the twelve signs of the zodiac<br />and astrology also provide insight into the four elements.&nbsp; An<br />important step in this area will be identifying for each of the twelve<br />signs of the zodiac its corresponding elemental sensation.&nbsp; Then that<br />rich set of symbols and interpretations can be integrated into the<br />psychology of the elements. To do this will require a shamanistic<br />approach to the symbols which characterize the zodiac signs.</p>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: The Elements & Energywork]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>My own experience is somewhat limited in this area, but you might try picking up a fascinating book by Peter Calhoun, titled <em>Soul On Fire</em>.&nbsp; He is an ex-priest turned shaman and centers his shamanic practices on working with the elementals.</p>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[The Elements & Energywork]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I recently picked up &quot;Intiation into Hermetics&quot; (Franz Bardon) and &quot;Energywork&quot; (Robert Bruce).&nbsp; Bruce seemed to be influenced by Bardon, but both talk about incorporating the visualization of elements in running energy sessions.</p><p>Does anybody have experience in specifically working with the classical elements (air/water/fire/earth/ether) in their energywork practice?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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