Noble Realms — School

Re: School

null@example.com (Free_Your_Mind) — Tue, 12 Sep 2006 09:37:09 +0000

I remember a moment from Kindergarten (what does this word mean, anyhow?), I can't quite recall the entire situation, all I know is that I was supposed to write down "television" (probably next to a picture of one) and as I was writing "t.e.l.e.v.-" the "Teacher assistant" interrupted me and TOLD me to write down "T.V", even though I knew how to fully spell the word, I remember erasing it and re-writing the abbreviation.

Dumbing-down in action folks. I remember the feeling of being disgusted and confused, even as a child!

I've had the same attitude for school my entire life...

Re: School

null@example.com (Flinter) — Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:45:38 +0000

Oh, one more thing.

If "wealth" is defined as being truely Happy, then college is far from a good investment in your future Happiness. Only you, the real you, can define what happiness is... for you. Culture cannot define it for you. You must throw all that baggage away.

But, I think you guys know all this...

Re: School

null@example.com (Flinter) — Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:40:06 +0000

Concerning going to college:

I am in my mid 50's, so look at this with a bit of hindsight.

The only reason, this day and age, i can think of for going to college is social. It gives you a chance to meet people and selecting a school, or your path once in a school, can allow you to cut through the masses and meet folks that you can share interests with. Far from "deciding what you want to be when your grow up"; before going to college you should should look hard at yourself & figure our what types of people you share in common. This also tells you a lot about yourself. What types of people energize you?

There may very well be better ways of meeting those people, in fact, that is very likely. But, college is one option depending on you.

Other than that, there is NO reason for college that I can think of. If you need to discover yourself, or to expand your horizons... spend the money on travel instead. If there is a topic you like, there are better ways to learn it... shop around.

Myself, knowing myself as I do now, I would tend bar (or something) & save enough money to buy an abandoned farm WAY AWAY from the beaten path & homestead. This is now what I am doing. I'd also invest in a satt. dish so that I had access to the internet. I'd then pursue a simple life (homesteading actually is not simple), and spend my winters learning through the internet.

Most important book to read before any of this... Walden by Thoreau. I school has killed your desire to read... REKINDLE IT. It is your key to many, many things.

Or something like that, smile.

Hope this contributes,
flinter

Re: School

null@example.com (Hildegarde) — Sun, 04 Jun 2006 02:37:51 +0000

To be wealthy you need to be wealthy in all areas of your life. Quotiing James Ray, you need to be wealthy in five areas: 'relationships, spiritual, mental (includes intellectual and emotional), physical and financial.' I think that life should be abundant.

School and university is a tough one. I think that most of the stuff being taught in those institutions aren't very stimulating for me anyway. But, if you choose to find another path of learning, for example one with a mentor or independently, then you should keep increasing in knowledge if you wish to function in this society. So in your mental area, try and learn something that society would deem useful as a backup, as well as focusing on your spiritual path if that's what you want. If possible go into something that you enjoy and love as well as being useful to others in tick-tock. Society does suck right now, but what can you do about it? Change yourself, you cannot change others. I think that if you discipline yourself in these tough times and you will grow very fast.

I recommend watching 'The Secret' if you guys haven't yet. There is a section on it about financial prosperity. Additionally, you can read 'Creating Money' by Sanaya Roman. It provides a practical guide to being abundant from a spiritual perspective.

Re: School

null@example.com (Matthew) — Sat, 03 Jun 2006 08:31:04 +0000

I reccommend all of you check out Robert Kiyosaki's book Rich Dad Poor Dad, or go on bittorrent.com and search for his audio books.

Re: School

null@example.com (Natural Mystic) — Fri, 02 Jun 2006 05:58:57 +0000

Hello Bounce.

I understand your viewpoint on school. I've just experienced that this year (my first year of univercity) and although I crammed and barely passed my first term, I ended up in the same un-motivated state again next term, except that time I didn't cram, and didn't pass. I felt that school really had no significance (at least the program I was in) to my life. Thus next year I plan to go back once more and study the Arts.

I do not know if the employers care about grades during the first year. Maybe some employers are different than others.

We all know school is a big scam, but the way the system is built makes me feel frustrated at times. Either go to school, get a degree then get a high paying job so you can FINALLY save up and retire. Garbage! OR work at low paying jobs that suck all the energy out of you.

I think the best way is to pull back within your self and look for answers there, and then you could probably by-pass the establishment and attract certain opportunities or engaged in healthy creative projects that can build revenue. So if you don't feel in control - take back control. Take time to yourself, ponder, meditate and figure out what you really want to do.

Financial situations and education are always a sticky subject, at least from my experience. The best way that I've found works for me is to take one step at a time and know that in the end everything will work out - so far it has!

I wish you all the best!

Re: School

null@example.com (Bounce) — Fri, 02 Jun 2006 03:54:12 +0000

I am currently going to UCSC. I am a first year with a 3.6 gpa, but I have absolutely no motivation to even pass my two hard classes this quarter (Last part of General Chemistry and Multivariable Calculus.) I am so tired of college. It does not resonate with me at all. All it does is wear me out and stress me out. I am considering just failing those two classes at this moment with two weeks left of school. It is still possible for me to pass them, but I plan on dropping out after this quarter anyways, so whats the point in trying? If I receive two Fs (my other class, French, is a pass/no pass class which I am easily passing) I will still have a 2.5 GPA.

My question is this... do employers care at all about a first years GPA in college?

Instead of sticking it out in college, which would probably make me go insane and drain me spiritually, I am going to quit and work in a warehouse during the summer 50+ hours a week making around $1600-2000 a month. With this money I plan on investing in gold and silver. I don't plan on working there forever. I consider it a temporary thing. I am going to live as cheaply as humanly possible and maybe try to start an online business on ebay. I read about a program you can download (it isn't free) that scans all the keywords people type when they search ebay. So I am thinking about researching the best ways to sell items on ebay and then selling items that receive the most traffic. So thats my plan and it is of course subject to change.

I recently read a book by Robert Kiyosaki, (author of Rich Dad Poor Dad.) The book is called Prophecy "Why the Biggest Stock Market Crash in History Is Still Coming... And How You Can Prepare Yourself and Prophet From It." It was a very good book in my opinion. It explained how almost everyone in America invests in 401k plans and mutual funds because they think they are good safe investments. The book goes on to say how when the baby boom generation starts to retire, and there is little or no social security and no medicare, they will start selling their 401k plans and mutual funds in masse. This will trigger everyone else to panic and start selling theirs.

I read spiritual articles about how not to worry about money, and how all my needs will be met in the future. But I feel it would be a good idea to start preparing for this, I don't think money will magically fall from the sky into my hands, although it is possible. I know the future is so uncertain. I just don't know anymore. I don't feel in control of my life. I feel like I am just letting everything affect me and not being the one affecting my environment and my path in life. (This is probably a symptom of feeling imprisoned in school.) Sorry I kind of swayed away from the original purpose of this thread, but I think everything I expressed here is relative on atleast some level.

Re: School

null@example.com (whywhywhy) — Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:44:20 +0000

You cannot even trust the statistics coming from the school system. I cannot say I am surprised but I did not know it was this blatantly rigged. Here is an excerpt from an article I read today"

Overall, the AP found that about 1.9 million students – or about 1 in every 14 test scores – aren't being counted under the law's racial categories. Minorities are seven times as likely to have their scores excluded as whites, the analysis showed.

Here is the full article, please read.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060418/ap_ … d_loophole

Regards,

Lee

Re: School

null@example.com (morningsun76) — Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:54:20 +0000

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Re: School

null@example.com (Zarg) — Sun, 12 Mar 2006 00:31:44 +0000

Thanks for the Mexican side ... was that a book published in the US? I taught English to Latinos back in 1992-93 and we discussed the Alamo and they brought in Mexican history books (from Mexico) -- whose account matched what my ancestor's letters said (up until he died of course).

In addition, check out the book Texas by Ferenbach -- a local author from New Braunsfels, TX whose 1000-page+ work on Texas history matches what the Mexican hist. books and James Bonham said... maybe James lied... after all, he ran out on his wife and family to be with 'friends' at the Alamo...

...but I am not surprised that there are diferences; the name of the game is to obfuscate, spread disinformation, and make somebody wrong. And the aim is make sure we don't really know what happened.. same as they have done with Roswell 1947, Pearl Harbor 1941, 911, JFK... and of course, back to the original point of this thread: today's kids will not even know about the discrepancies -- they will (probably) only hear one version, providing it is politically correct.

(Therefore, we won't go into Sam Houston whom the Indians called 'Big Drunk'... He was sleeping it off during the Battle of San Jacinto [after the Alamo]... another hero.)

Thanks for sharing that.

Re: School

null@example.com (Spartan2402) — Sat, 11 Mar 2006 17:59:55 +0000

We were just studying about the alamo in "history" *cough* fantasy-hour *cough* My teacher was talking about all this injustice to the americans and it was a massacre, also she did say that Davy Crockett was killed in the battle and the Bowie was a hero. I was wondering what really happened, Thanks

Re: School

null@example.com (whywhywhy) — Sat, 11 Mar 2006 16:31:48 +0000

The Other Side Account:

Mexico generously opened Texan lands to American settlers who, corrupted by their greed for land and the precious metals it contained, ignored the 1824 Mexican constitution which they had sworn to obey and took advantage of Mexico’s internal problems to revolt. The Texans demanded legalization of their despicable practice of slavery, formed unauthorized governing bodies that collected taxes but did not return any of this revenue to the state, continually demanded more and more land, and insisted on rights granted only to sovereign nations.
This bold infringement on the honor and property of Mexico could not be permitted. "The colonists established in Texas," declared a circular distributed by the minister of relations, "have recently given the most unequivocal evidence of the extremity to which perfidy, ingratitude, and the restless spirit that animates them can go, since -- forgetting what they owe to the supreme government of the nation which so generously admitted them to its bosom, gave them fertile lands to cultivate, and allowed them all the means to live in comfort and abundance -- they have risen against that same government, taking arms against it... [while] concealing their criminal purpose of dismembering the territory of the Republic."
General Santa Anna, who had taken control of the government three years earlier, declared that he would "strike in defense of the independence, honor, and rights of my nation." Fired with patriotism, he formed an army and gave this order: "The foreigners who are making war on the Mexican nation in violation of every rule of law are entitled to no consideration whatever, and in consequence no quarter is to be given them."
The enemy took refuge in the Alamo when they saw the Mexican army approaching. After a 12-day siege, four columns of soldiers and reserves quietly positioned themselves on four sides of the fort in the predawn darkness. They were thrust into battle by the ancient Spanish bugle call that signaled "fire and death."
The revolutionaries’ barrage of cannon and rifle fire stopped the initial charge and killed valiant officers and soldiers who had won the honor of being among the first to attack. When a second attempt was likewise repulsed, Santa Anna ordered in the reserves. Soon the army surged over the north wall, where wooden planking allowed a foothold, and overran the defenders.
As the Texans retreated to the barracks behind sandbag barriers and trenches. Mexican soldiers followed. Fierce fighting ensued, but the Americans fell quickly, especially when their cannon were turned against them. The wrath of the army abated only after all the foreigners were killed. The number of Mexicans lost in the battle was appalling, but they died for a just and honorable cause.
Eyewitness Account:
One of the longest and possibly most objective accounts of the Alamo's last stand was written by one José Enrique de la Pe Â±a, a lieutenant colonel with the forces of the Mexican president-general Santa Anna. He was critical of the leadership on both sides, particularly his own.
For instance, when Mexican forces first arrived at San Antonio on February 23, 1836, the Texans were sleeping it off from a rousing party the night before, and the Alamo (a converted mission) was guarded by only ten men. Rather than move swiftly, though, the Mexican commander dawdled, permitting the Texans to raise the alarm and scramble their forces into position.
As it happened, the defenders were about as disorganized as the Mexicans. They had a clumsy system of dual leadership, with the regular forces commanded by William Travis while the volunteers answered only to Jim Bowie. The Texans had not bothered to store much food or ammunition, and they had nowhere near enough men to defend their fort, a large, irregularly shaped compound whose walls were crumbling in places.
The Mexican troops, for their part, were poorly paid, ill-fed, and haphazardly trained, and had been exhausted by a grueling march over the desert. Even so, morale was reasonably high. The Mexicans with some justice regarded the Texans as murderous barbarians. Indeed, one of the reasons the Texans were so determined to win independence from Mexico in the first place was that the Mexican constitution outlawed slavery, which the Texans favored.
Having lost the advantage of surprise, Santa Anna could have done two things: simply bypass the Alamo altogether, since it was of little strategic value, or wait until his artillery arrived, which would simplify breaching the fort's defenses. He did neither, opting instead for a rash attack instead on March 6--according to rumor, says de la Pe Â±a, because Santa Anna had heard that Travis and company were on the verge of surrendering, and he didn't want to win without some battlefield heroics first.
The assault was a nightmare. Advancing on the fort, the Mexicans were ordered to commence firing while still out of range, with the result that they had to reload under the Texans' guns. Scaling ladders were inadequate, and the Mexican soldiers were forced to scrabble over the walls on the backs of their fellows. Once the Mexicans were inside, the battle degenerated into a melee, with soldiers shooting at their comrades as often as at the enemy.
When it was all over, seven captured defenders, including Davy Crockett, were brought before Santa Anna. He ordered them killed, and they were hacked to death with sabres. American losses are variously given as 182, 188, and 253, while the Mexicans lost more than 300, de la Pe Â±a says. All in all, it was not a heroic episode for anyone concerned

Re: School

null@example.com (whywhywhy) — Sat, 11 Mar 2006 16:11:28 +0000

Zarg,

I wonder how the entire Alalmo story is told in Mexican schools? I'll have to check that out!

Regards,

Lee

Re: School

null@example.com (Zarg) — Sat, 11 Mar 2006 01:18:07 +0000

Two quick observations about education:

1. Has anybody noticed that they rewrite history to conform to ‘politically correct’ current ideals? Case in point: The Alamo.

Davy Crockett never wore a ‘coonskin cap. He was not killed during the battle; he was captured alive and Santa Ana asked him to please be the negotiator between Mexico and the US – there were some needed land reforms. Crockett said no. Santa Ana said that Crockett would meet his death before a firing squad if he refused... he was shot against the wall the next day.

Jim Bowie was not a hero, although they name towns and schools after him here in Texas. He invented the bowie knife, and was renown for wrestling alligators. (Which is easy if you can get your hands over their eyes – they go limp and you can flip, roll and arch them -- do whatever you want as long as they can’t see.) He also married a woman in Louisiana for her money (he was from La) and stole horses and land and resold them. He escaped his wife and was hiding from the US govt in the Alamo, so he didn’t care if he died or not… the US govt was looking to hang him.

Travis was a hot head, another ‘hero’ in Tx. He was a corporal in the US Army, at one point, and he’d ride into town, get drunk and shoot off his guns, and they’d lock him up till he sobered up, then release him. Next town, same scene.

James Bonham was from South Carolina, also ran out on his wife and family to be with friends at the Alamo. He was known for 2 things: (a) writing letters back home every week, and (b) riding in and out of the Alamo to get food, mail his letters, and try to get reinforcements. Doesn’t that scenario sound like Santa Ana was the big bad guy that Walt Disney has made him out to be?

Santa Ana surrounded the Alamo on 3 sides (NOT 4) and asked the 197+ people to leave – they were causing a disturbance on Mexican soil. Just as we would call out the National Guard to put down riots. This went on for 2-3 weeks, and all caused by Santa Ana refusing to grant any more deeds to land in his territory (1824 land grant program) – he was losing control to all the US settlers that came into the Mexican territory. By the way, what is now called Texas was virtually unsettle-able due to the Comanches, so Santa Ana just wanted people present to drive out the Indians… so the settlers got 40 acres of land, sometimes more, and a deed to the land. Many could not fight the Indians for the general and lost their lives. But eventually the people began to band together and win, and got too numerous and demanded further rights.

What tore it was Bowie basically flipping Santa Ana off when asked for the last time to leave. There was no line drawn in the sand. At that point the general raised the red flag and the rest was history.

How do I know? I read my ancestor’s letters.
The real story is not very screen-worthy is it?

2. Second brief point: when I was a teacher, I saw many schools teaching Algebra to 7th graders. That requires frontal lobe processing: reasoning and higher order thinking skills (H.O.T.S. as it is called). During my teacher training, we were instructed that the frontal lobe does not develop enough to allow HOTS or reasoning skills until the kids are about 14 years old. You are normally 12 in the 7th grade. Whose bright idea was this?

What I saw was kids failing Algebra and thinking they were stupid (compared to some kids who matured early) and they never tried again… kind of a weeding out of the genetically superior (faster maturing?) at the expense of the normal kids...?

There is a very good summary of this frontal lobe info in the book Biology of Transcendence by J.C. Pearce (pp 46-53) with pictures and charts.
Page 251 has info on the new Indigo children’s brains.
Page 148 has info on what alcohol or prions do to the brain with pix.
Pages 64-70 have info on the superiority of the heart to the brain, the toroidal intelligence (EMF?) field, and the heart’s EMF effects on the rest of the body (pix, etc).
(Page references are from the hardback version.)

Enjoy.

Re: School

null@example.com (Annushka) — Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:52:34 +0000

"I am beginning to suspect all elaborate and special systems of education. They seem to me to be built upon the supposition that every child is a kind of idiot who must be taught to think. Whereas, if the child is left to himself, he will think more and better, if less showily. Let him go and come freely, let him touch real things and combine his impressions for himself, instead of sitting indoors at a little round table, while a sweet-voiced teacher suggests that he build a stone wall with his wooden blocks, or make a rainbow out of strips of coloured paper, or plant straw trees in bead flower-pots. Such teaching fills the mind with artificial associations that must be got rid of, before the child can develop independent ideas out of actual experience." -- Anne Sullivan

http://www.unschooling.com/

If I ever have children I am sure I will not be able to bring myself to send them to school. To bring a precious life into the world and then put them through that system seems sacrilege to me. Home education is the only way to go as far as I am concerned. And I am not impressed when people say to me that the children would be missing out on contact with other children and learning social skills. There is no reason why they can ´t be educated at home and also spend time with other children.