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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>LightningEye wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><strong>How does one transmute negative karma, anyway?</strong></p></blockquote></div><p>First of all, personally, I wouldn&#039;t call karma a punishment at all.&nbsp; I think it&#039;s the result of your actions, nothing more, nothing less.&nbsp; In the grossest sense, if you jump off of a building, it is your &quot;karma&quot; to fall.&nbsp; One translation of the Sanskrit word is, I believe, &quot;action.&quot;&nbsp; It is what you do.&nbsp; </p><p>If you mug a person, then probably you have generated feelings of hate and resentment in your space, and matching energies will be drawn to you.&nbsp; To me, karma is an extension of the law of attraction.&nbsp; Nobody doles it out, like a god or a karma committee, it is simply the way the universe works.&nbsp; &quot;Accruing&quot; karma, to me, is the process of the universal mind noticing the changes in your energy from day to day, second to second.&nbsp; ...That&#039;s how I see it.</p><p>As far as transmuting negative karma.&nbsp; Again, this is how I see it: forgiveness is what resolves karma.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>LightningEye wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>lyra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If people can&#039;t even remember their early childhoods and barely remember their dreams and can&#039;t even remember so much of the things that have happened to them as adults, if people are going through this life half asleep at the wheel in a dream state, forgetting &quot;who they are&quot; on a soul level as they go about their days placing importance and attention on ridiculous stuff that doesn&#039;t even matter in the big scheme of things, then how in the frickity frack would they remember the last go around?</p></blockquote></div><p>Excellent point! This very idea has crossed my mind before, but you&#039;ve articulated it well. I&#039;m particularly concerned about the people who have trouble remembering their childhood, a bedrock of experience that ripples on for the rest of their lives. Before someone probes their past live(s), shouldn&#039;t they come to terms with their current life first? And resolve any holdovers of their childhood? This strikes me as a conducive helpful step in remembering.</p></blockquote></div><p>Definitely. For myself, I wasn&#039;t ready to find out what happened in the life before this one until I&#039;d cleared through the muck of things that had happened in this life.&nbsp; It wasn&#039;t planned that way, it&#039;s not like I set out on some self-help plan, but in writing various things over the past year or so it inadvertently did some muck clearing, and a year later I realized....huh....suddenly finding out what happened the last go-around doesn&#039;t seem so daunting anymore.&nbsp; Now it feels like I can deal with it. So yeah, the order of it all wasn&#039;t planned, but it&#039;s exactly what you&#039;re saying here.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>LightningEye wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>What about Karma? Is Karma as simple as punishment? I&#039;ve wondered about the correlation between book of Revelation&#039;s Book of Life and the Akashic Records. Could that be a recording place for Karma?</p></blockquote></div><p>Hey LE.&nbsp; I tried a short stab at those questions in post #34 of this thread and have recently attempted to expand on these interrelated topics in my own writing (off of NR) for the sake of clarification.&nbsp; I will let you know (if you like) when my site and this specific article are online.&nbsp; Until then I will say that yes, the akashic records (or Book of Life) is the &quot;place&quot; where karma is stored.&nbsp; It seems to be the resource by which the soul can extract the catalytic karma that it needs to develop into a greater state of spiritual being, to hone its essence and dissolve the illusory personality.&nbsp; Karma is based on the entity&#039;s development or maturity of free will and awareness, the present state of which is reflected in the akasha and back into one&#039;s incarnation.</p><p>I can&#039;t see karma as punishment because it is a natural law of Creation.&nbsp; I don&#039;t know about you, but my Creator isn&#039;t one to judge, though this is something which does come naturally to its finite Creations.&nbsp; It is catalyst for our development.&nbsp; Can you imagine how stagnant life would be without it?</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>How does one transmute negative karma, anyway?</p></blockquote></div><p>IMO it is by consciously intending to do so.&nbsp; It sounds overly simplistic but I&#039;ve found that making and holding the intent itself has enabled my higher self to rearrange things in my life so that the karma is processed more efficiently.&nbsp; Acknowledging the existence of this seemingly perpetual catalyst is by itself a major breakthrough in terms of the higher self&#039;s ability to help the lower self align with its incarnation-specific goals of lesson learning.&nbsp; If one makes a conscious choice to transmute said karma&nbsp; then one will also notice an increase in related synchronicity and life-themes.</p><p>As cheesy as it sounds...in the end it all comes down to love.&nbsp; Karma of the material realms for which we choose to incarnate is a creation of a consciousness that has been raised in separation from it&#039;s true source.&nbsp; When we learn to truly love the Creation AS the Creator (and vice versa) then the negative karma will have a greater chance to be refined and transmuted in the crucible of our hearts.&nbsp; The thing is that this process seems to have a mental origin, as all things do, and so paying close attention to the mind and it&#039;s interpretations, while being open to the rhythms of the heart, will allow one&#039;s paradigm to shift ever so slightly, eventually reaching a point where one looks back and can&#039;t even believe how it used to exist in that previous state.</p><p>Another thing to consider is the path travelled upward by the lower density catalyst.&nbsp; If the first 3 chakras are imbalanced then the 4th (heart=love) will not have a fair chance of utilizing the energy and making the sweeping changes required in the transmutation of karma.</p><p>Hope this has been some help, and if not....I&#039;ll try harder next time! <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 19:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Truly this is a fascinating topic. One that has interested me for quite some time and whose interest has grown in my over the past year. All of your stories have been amazing, shocking, enlightening. Perhaps we are entering a time of great awakening after all. I have many questions, but also some comments.</p><p>If someone believes that reincarnation occurs yet does not have some type of memory or psychic evidence, are they behaving slightly gullibly? I do not think so. Deeper than memory is raw impression. Indeed, before any memories came back to me, I had an intuitive feeling about reincarnation. </p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>lyra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>What about the other part of the topic?&nbsp; Reincarnation?&nbsp; As in, past lives?&nbsp; Does anybody else out there have past life memories or flashes or indications?</p></blockquote></div><p>I once had a flashback while using the HemiSync program. I believe it was a track specifically designed to remember past lives, either that or it was an intention I set before beginning, I can&#039;t remember which. If only for a brief instance, I saw an older man, white hair, standing on a smallish white boat (sailboat?) in the middle of the ocean. He was smiling and I had the distinct impress that he was me, some otherwhen. I&#039;ve also had impressions of being &quot;different&quot; in soul from most others – in short, I feel older than them, but the oddest part is that I feel simultaneously younger at the same time. As if I already know how to rise above petty trivialities to preserve my feeling of newness in this life.</p><p>Does anyone else feel this way?</p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Seeking the Truth wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>As I lay there on the table, she placed her hands on my head in different points, barely touching, but yet causing electrical impulses to run thru my head. She said she saw that someone very close to me had shot me in the left temple during the Civil War era. She asked me if I knew who it was. My mind reached out and although I couldn&#039;t see the &#039;scene&#039; I had a feeling of who it was. I said, &#039;I think it was my son.&#039; She told me that I was correct. Although, in that lifetime, he was not my son; I think he was a jealous lover. So my (current) offspring at one time was my beau. I have a feeling that I cheated on him or something, that caused him to not be able to trust me. I didn&#039;t see what happened, but the answers came to me while in this &#039;trance&#039;.</p></blockquote></div><p>Incredible, SeekingtheTruth! Your story provides a reference point for the relationship between my brother and mother, as they have a similar love/hate relationship, and always have. Situations like this are quite fascinating. I wonder how karma balances out in a role reversal as this. Will you have your son do a regression in the future? You ought to.</p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>lyra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Might explain the incident from when I was traveling cross country moving to Florida, and crossed over from Lousiana into Mississippi....and promptly freaked out when I saw the &quot;Welcome to Mississippi&quot; sign.&nbsp; Had a mild anxiety attack and grabbed my cell phone and called my friend Mike back in California, freaking out about the Klan and the racism and how they lynch people, etc. etc. blah blah blah, culminating with &quot;OH MY GOD WHY AM I HERE?? WHY AM I HERE??!?!&nbsp; I CAN&#039;T BELIEVE I&#039;M HERE!!!!!&nbsp; &nbsp;AHHHHH!&quot;&nbsp; I just couldn&#039;t BELIEVE I was stepping foot in this backwards racist state.</p></blockquote></div><p>This story in particular stuck out in my mind. An amazing story! If that isn&#039;t evidence then I don&#039;t know what is! Lyra has provided a good example of what a memory holdover looks like, here.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>lyra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If people can&#039;t even remember their early childhoods and barely remember their dreams and can&#039;t even remember so much of the things that have happened to them as adults, if people are going through this life half asleep at the wheel in a dream state, forgetting &quot;who they are&quot; on a soul level as they go about their days placing importance and attention on ridiculous stuff that doesn&#039;t even matter in the big scheme of things, then how in the frickity frack would they remember the last go around?</p></blockquote></div><p>Excellent point! This very idea has crossed my mind before, but you&#039;ve articulated it well. I&#039;m particularly concerned about the people who have trouble remembering their childhood, a bedrock of experience that ripples on for the rest of their lives. Before someone probes their past live(s), shouldn&#039;t they come to terms with their current life first? And resolve any holdovers of their childhood? This strikes me as a conducive helpful step in remembering.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>dreamosis wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>How many posters here feel like (or remember, or have had visions that suggest) they&#039;ve had off-planet past lives?</p></blockquote></div><p>Does Kantec count?</p><p>For those of you who aren&#039;t familiar, the current asteroid belt is most likely the remains of an ancient planet known as Kantec, or simply the 5th planet. This is discussed in the Cassiopaean transcripts, and even before that in the first Orfeo Angelucci book. (I&#039;m currently reading it and thoroughly enjoying it.) From what I&#039;ve read, many of earth&#039;s people could be descended from Kantekkians. If this is true, I would find it natural that people have spent past lives on Kantec.</p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>DasMoose wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I think all the ways we are inspired to share we have to flow. If you have artistry then totally share it and don’t fear how people will receive any form of communicating your heart and vision, weave your tapestry with total freedom and abandon of reason.</p></blockquote></div><p>Beautiful, Moose. Something I needed to hear more than you know. Tapestry! What a great word.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>lyra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I unfolded it and realized.....it was a map showing all the pioneer trails out west, and the Oregon trail.&nbsp; Different routes were noted in different colors, and there were these historical bit and blurbs of insight on the sides of the map.&nbsp; It was dated July 2000 I believe. So from about 6 months earlier, a relatively recent issue.&nbsp; But there were no National Geographics in the apartment.&nbsp; I certainly didn&#039;t have any and either did my brother.&nbsp; The apartment was very tiny, it would have been hard to miss.</p><p>I later asked my brother - more like demanded in an alarmed &quot;!!!!&quot; way - where this came from.&nbsp; He looked at me frowning and puzzled, slightly annoyed at being bothered and had no idea.&nbsp; He kept insisting he had no idea where it came from, and meanwhile I was just&nbsp; at the amazing &quot;coincidence&quot; of it all.&nbsp; REALLY weird.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank your for sharing this story! At times, such inexplicable events have happened to me, but none so obvious as this. What do you think was the meaning of your experience? Could your guides have been trying to help you uncover your past, or something else?</p><br /><p><strong>More Questions</strong></p><p>What about Karma? Is Karma as simple as punishment? I&#039;ve wondered about the correlation between book of Revelation&#039;s Book of Life and the Akashic Records. Could that be a recording place for Karma?</p><p>How does one know if a certain event or circumstances (good or bad) is the effect of Karma or someone else&#039;s decision?<br />And perhaps my most wondered question (and perhaps the elephant in the room):</p><p><strong>How does one transmute negative karma, anyway?</strong></p><br /><p>Many Answers,<br />More Questions,<br />LE</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>How many posters here feel like (or remember, or have had visions that suggest) they&#039;ve had off-planet past lives?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yes ...&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Part of my journey required that i discovered my previous incarnation - so i kind of knew where i was up to in evolutionary terms and determine what my &quot;mission&quot; was - to help out humanity somehow.<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;As a youngster i was a collector of crystals and also spent time stargazing and things started to fall into place when i consciously embarked on my path - begining with exploring all things Magical/mystical and culminating in discovering my past life as an ET. I&#039;m still researching and pulling my story together, but have most of the information and just really need to start to write it down.</p><p>I read this last-night and thought i would type it out to see what you feel about it. Of course i&#039;m not claiming this as gospel ; but feel there&#039;s some interesting ideas and concepts ...</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Excerpt from &quot;Starlight Elixirs&quot; by Michael Smulkis and Fred Rubenfeld.</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;This galaxy&#039;s influence enhances the ability to understand the long-term purpose of humanity&#039;s evolution.This includes the ability to recall one&#039;s past lives as different life forms, such as dinosaurs. In some cases these remembered lives are extraterrestrial.<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;The energy of Andromeda primarily relates to the understanding of the early incarnations of humanity as the Himalaya mountains. These lives are important aspects of one&#039;s being. The Himalayas exist as the Rock of Gibralter for understanding the influence of mountains on human awareness. The Himalayas have existed in so many different ways for very long periods of time, and indeed were the first little pokings up out of the sea of hills and eventually islands and mountains in the early phases of Earth history before humanity ever appeared in any form and animal life was unknown. In this way they are the first to bring some sense of separation or difference between the land and sea, and were the ideal repository of consciousness, though in a primative form, of humanity as a group. Their great height at the current time is related to humanity&#039;s need to understand it&#039;s own history. For people to understand themselves, they must look with symbolism and awakening in their consciousness to whom they have been. Because of their height, people will be attracted to them and learn about them, and in this way learn about themselves. It is partly to do with Elohim influence that these mountains symbolize so much spiritually for humanity.</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Working with the energy of Andromeda can also enhance the ability to perceive the overall picture. The understanding that an individual may fit into a larger cosmic scheme is brought into greater awareness and consciousness. This can help one feel a part of the cosmos and a part of universal thought and understanding.</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Andromeda&#039;s energy has the ability to bring the physical body into a state of balance and alignment with oneself and others, which may result in an internal state of balance. Awareness of the love principle contributing to the soul&#039;s evolution, and ultimately to God&#039;s evolution, is brought into consciousness with this energy. This results in most of the things we have mentioned above.</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;The energy of this galaxy can be attuned to directly by individuals when they are not involved in the thinking process, as when they are receiving this light through dance, music, through meditation, movement or even sleep.</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;A number of individuals from Earth have had a chance to visit Andromeda. In some ways Andromeda is a mirror of many aspects of the Milky Way Galaxy. Andromeda&#039;s central energy in some ways is a mate to the energy located in the center of the Milky Way Galaxy. Because of this innate affiliation, certain capacities that might be ascribed to yin and yang exist at a galactic level. Many individuals who have had difficulties in understanding what it is to exist on Earth or even in other civilisations associated with the Milky Way have had direct past-life experiences within the Andromeda system. Individuals who have some attunement to Andromeda, because they have seen a picture of it or perhaps have gazed upon it in the heavens at night, will do well with this elixir and may find past memories of long journeys to other places, other times, and other people.</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Much schooling of individuals to some understanding of what it means to be involved in the Milky Way system has taken place in the Andromeda system. But very few individuals are natives of that place, but rather they have come here to experience Earth and retain some memories of Andromeda because at times, when the going was very tough here, they could have a shifted perspective, a new way of working with things by a breif visit or a fairly brief lifetime somewhere in the Andromeda system. Because it is a system just like the Milky Way, there are many capacities there, many things that go on, many planets, and several of these mirror Earths development on some levels. But there is in general with such planets some inability to welcome great radical change, as change as such has been destructive enough in that place. So therefore it is a little different; it is somewhat associated with periods of relative inactivity, peace, a feeling within oneself of a gathering rather than of an expression.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Shoogie wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I do believe in reincarnation. I have ever since I was younger. Once I found out what the term meant I was about 7 or so, I was just like: &quot;Yeah that makes sense&quot; Intuitively it made sense to me.</p></blockquote></div><p>I had a very similar experience.&nbsp; I was raised Christian and wasn&#039;t ever told what reincarnation was.&nbsp; But when I was about seven years old I was boating with friends and my friend&#039;s dad said, looking up at a seagull: &quot;You know, if reincarnation were true, I&#039;d want to come back as a bird.&quot;&nbsp; </p><p>I had to ask him what reincarnation was because I didn&#039;t know.&nbsp; He told it was the belief that we live more than once, and that some people believe that we could come back as animals.&nbsp; When he said it there was an instant knowing in me that it was somehow true (despite the fact that he didn&#039;t believe it, my friends didn&#039;t, and that I was conditioned to believe it wasn&#039;t true).</p><p><strong>Edit:</strong></p><p>I have a friend whose first memory is of waking up suddenly with a panicked feeling at about two years old.&nbsp; He says the thought process was: &quot;What the hell am I doing here?&nbsp; What am I?&quot;&nbsp; Meaning Earth, and his human body.&nbsp; He says he had a deep knowing that he used to be somewhere else, on another planet, in another type of body.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>a rainbow is really a circle.&nbsp; <br />THE CENTER OF THE rainbow is home.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 13:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>[center][size=16]<strong>First Drop</strong>[/size][/center]</p><p>[center][size=16]<strong>Second Drop</strong>[/size][/center]</p><p>[center][size=16]<strong>Third Drop</strong>[/size][/center]</p><p>[center][size=16]<strong>Forth Drop:</strong></p><p><strong>INTO The Heart Of Darkness.......</strong>[/size][/center]</p><br /><p>[center]<strong><span style="color: green">[size=24]WE WILL</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: green">Get Through This[/size]</span></strong>[/center]</p><br /><br /><br /><p>[center]<span class="postimg"><img src="http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/siriarc/rainbowbridge.jpg" alt="http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/siriarc/rainbowbridge.jpg" /></span>[/center]</p><br /><p>[center]<strong><span style="color: red">Rain</span></strong><strong><span style="color: orange">Bow</span></strong>[/center]</p><p>[center]<strong><span style="color: yellow">Quatras</span></strong>[/center]</p><p>[center]<strong><span style="color: green">Heal</span></strong>[/center]</p><p>[center]<strong><span style="color: blue">The</span></strong>[/center]</p><p>[center]<strong><span style="color: indigo">Souls</span></strong>[/center]</p><p>[center]<strong><span style="color: violet">Of ALL</span></strong>[/center]</p><br /><br /><p>[center]<span class="postimg"><img src="http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/siriarc/b5.gif" alt="http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/siriarc/b5.gif" /></span>[/center]</p><br /><br /><p>[center]<span class="postimg"><img src="http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/siriarc/returnof.gif" alt="http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/siriarc/returnof.gif" /></span>[/center]</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 07:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks!<br />I would like to read that PDF, this is a very complicate/complex thing to<br />understand <strong>well.</strong></p>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Here is a comparison of two texts, &quot;<a href="http://www.equilibrauk.com/shop8.shtml">Shopping for Spirit Part 8</a>&quot; by Steve Gamble (which was mentioned in the opening post) and &quot;Secret Brothoods and the Mystery of the Human Double&quot; by Rudolf Steiner. Both involve human fetuses receiving not only a human soul, but also a negative entity attachment.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Gamble wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Every newborn baby is born complete with its own soul and light inside it. When a child is conceived, as the foetus grows and the child develops and forms, the separation of the inner spirit and the development of the soul (consciousness/identity) beings - as we covered in chapter three. This separation allows the spirit and the child to become aware of itself, and the newborn soul is naturally a perfect reflection of the purity of the spiritual light. All this is happening <em>within</em> the body of the newborn and not external to it. Creation starts at the centre and expands outwards as we have covered with these writings.</p><p>We can understand from the above description of &#039;reincarnation&#039; give to Dr Newton by a &#039;reincarnated soul&#039; that this type of soul is <em>totally external</em> to the &#039;soul&#039; of the foetus, baby, or young child, and is merely biding its time using deceitful tactics, pretending to be a playmate and so forth until it can gain the confidence of the child and enter the child&#039;s energy field. This is similar to a virus or pathogen that cannot enter a healthy cell and it has to wait for the cell&#039;s energy field to become compromised or weakened before it can enter and cause damage to the cell and interrupt its memory and energy fields, thereby causing the cell to become ill or unhealthy.</p><p>[...]</p><p>These lost souls are programmed into believing that these human beings, who they have been brainwashed into &#039;entering&#039; - very often young children - are primitive and cannot survive without their help. They forget that these young children have existed quite happily without them for much of their lives and, if they had been <em>that</em> &#039;primitive&#039; I&#039;m pretty sure the parents would have noticed!</p><p>Much of what you have just read about the &#039;reincarnation&#039; of these possessing lost souls may appear disturbing, but for me the really disturbing part about all this is that these lost souls <em>actually do believe</em> they are entering a body <em>prepared for them</em>. They also believe that they are there to <em>take over the mind of the human soul to improve its life and give it depth of personality</em>. These lost souls firmly believe that they are reincarnating into a new life, THEIR life, and they cannot see or comprehend that they are merely possessing a living human soul. This is like a computer virus that searches and searches until it finds a weakness and a way into the computer and then unloads its programmed payload causing havoc in the host.</p><p>It is only when we examine the false spirit world that these lost souls describe coming from - their perceived hom - that we can begin to comprehend that they <em>have been</em> totally brainwashed and conditioned into believing that what they say is correct.</p></blockquote></div><div class="quotebox"><cite>Steiner wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>So we arrive in this world with the garment of our organism without being able to reach down into it with our soul to any great extent. Instead, shortly before we are born, not very long before we are born, there is also an opportunity for another spiritual being, apart from our soul, to take possession of our body, namely, of the subconscious part of the body. This is a fact. Shortly before we are born another being indwells us; in the terminology we used today we would call this an ahrimanic being. It is just as much in us as is our own soul.</p><p>These beings lead their lives by making use of human beings to enable them to inhabit the sphere in which they wish to dwell. They have an exceptionally high degree of intelligence and a very significantly developed will, but no qualities of soul, nothing like what we would call the human qualities of soul and heart and mind. So we proceed through our life while having our soul and also a double who is far cleverer than we are, very intelligent, but with a mephistophelian intelligence, an ahrimanic intelligence, and in addition also an ahrimanic will, a very strong will, a will that is much more akin to the forces of nature than it is to our human will which is ruled by our heart and mind.</p><p>[...]</p><p>These beings of high intelligence [...] have decided out of their own will that they do not want to live in the world to which they were assigned by the wise gods of the upper hierarchies. They want to conquer earth, so they need bodies. Having no bodies of their own they use as much of human bodies as they can since the human soul cannot quite fill out the human body.</p><p>While a human body is developing, these beings can slip into it at a specific point before birth, and thereafter they accompany us beneath the threshold of our consciousness. But there is one aspect of human life they cannot stand, and that is death. So they always have to depart from the human body they have invaded before it is afflicted by death. This is again and again a bitter disappointment of them, for what they so much want to succeed in is to remain in the human body beyond death. In their own kingdom this would be a high achievement for these beings; but so far they have failed in this.</p></blockquote></div><p>There is more about this in the Steiner book, how the attachment is an etheric double whose strength depends on the etheric emanations from the earth which varies according to geographic areas, how it&#039;s particularly potent in America. But I need a digital version to post these excerpts... will obtain and post a PDF eventually, otherwise the Amazon link is <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Brotherhoods-Mystery-Human-Double/dp/1855841622/ref=sr_1_1/002-4239018-9010407?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1183680565&amp;sr=8-1">here</a>. (There is also an interesting comment by Steiner of vaccinations being used to shut down people&#039;s spiritual inclinations. Makes sense because autism is a symptom of that effect overshooting its target, and autism is linked to vaccinations.)</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 00:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>..........ps</p><p>Something I forgot to mention several posts back when I was talking about the Oregon trail possibility and my trip out to Astoria in January 2002- the next morning after that trip, a Sunday, I woke up in my brother&#039;s apartment where I was crashing at the time and sat up in my air mattress and noticed something on the floor at the end of the mattress.&nbsp; I reached over and picked it up, realizing it was a map.&nbsp; One of those National Geographic maps.&nbsp; I unfolded it and realized.....it was a map showing all the pioneer trails out west, and the Oregon trail.&nbsp; Different routes were noted in different colors, and there were these historical bit and blurbs of insight on the sides of the map.&nbsp; It was dated July 2000 I believe. So from about 6 months earlier, a relatively recent issue.&nbsp; But there were no National Geographics in the apartment.&nbsp; I certainly didn&#039;t have any and either did my brother.&nbsp; The apartment was very tiny, it would have been hard to miss. </p><p>Feeling like <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/yikes.png" width="15" height="15" alt="yikes" /> <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/yikes.png" width="15" height="15" alt="yikes" />&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/yikes.png" width="15" height="15" alt="yikes" /> I later asked my brother - more like demanded in an alarmed &quot;!!!!&quot; way - where this came from.&nbsp; He looked at me frowning and puzzled, slightly annoyed at being bothered and had no idea.&nbsp; He kept insisting he had no idea where it came from, and meanwhile I was just <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/yikes.png" width="15" height="15" alt="yikes" /> at the amazing &quot;coincidence&quot; of it all.&nbsp; REALLY weird.&nbsp; Portland was a weird time in general with strange reality stuff going on, and lots of conspiracies and even a UFO sighting one night apparently, so in a way it doesn&#039;t surprise me.&nbsp; But still, even that boggled my mind a bit.&nbsp; The odds are astronomical that a National Geographic map specifically pertaining to the Oregon trail would spontaneously appear at the end of my bed the next morning after I drove west on Route 30 - which literally lies <strong> on top of the old Oregon trail</strong>- out to Astoria where I stopped and perused through the historical society museum, looking with fascinated interested at all their pioneer/Oregon Trail relics.&nbsp; So much so that I don&#039;t even question the nature of this incident, I just know it was artificially constructed by something else.&nbsp; &nbsp;By who though, and for what purpose, I&#039;ll never know.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 19:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>globug wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Thanks lyra on the Sylvia Brown info. Me and my mother watch her every Wednesday afternoon on the Montel Williams show. My mother has two of her books, I&#039;ve read them both, interesting.</p></blockquote></div><p>No problem - the book is called &quot;Past Lives, Future Healing&quot; in case you&#039;re curious.&nbsp; I went searching through my box of stuff and realized I still have a copy of it.&nbsp; I&#039;m going to re-read it later, see if I find any interesting tidbits that would be good to post excerpts from.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 19:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: do any of you actually believe in Karma & Reincarnation?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>khatru wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I didn&#039;t think it was so much about being afraid, but there are many facets to the fear frequency. You&#039;ve mentioned fear several times here, and I&#039;m going to take that to heart...because I&#039;m afraid you may be right.</p></blockquote></div><p>To the contrary, I find you very brave, fearless even.&nbsp; Fear is just something on my mind lately.</p><p> </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>khatru wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>This is funny. I&#039;ve been in a work situation where I&#039;ve been interacting with &quot;hillbillies&quot; for the last couple months (though not rich hillbillies, just regular working class guys). I have a very difficult time not being authentic, so I have to be much better than I&#039;m used to about not running my mouth so much. I believe I understand what you mean about holding the higher frequency. It&#039;s challenging to find ways of getting past the energy they&#039;ve been programmed to project as a means of dealing with their environmental and social circumstances. Usually I find that behind that aggressive (and kind of barbaric) energetic onslaught, they&#039;re built on the same patterns as I am. <br />One day I started paying attention to the pop/country music thats always on there and how almost every song is about the kinds of feelings and emotions those guys pretend they don&#039;t have. That was a clue.</p></blockquote></div><p>I imagine the difference between our respective hillbillies is very subtle; additional chrome on the pick up trucks maybe?… imported chewing tobacco?:) or the phrase, “I’m going to go whittle some, and check my stocks”&nbsp; I kid… because it makes me feel superior. But seriously I experienced almost the exact situation and realization around the music at work a couple of days ago. Awesome that you sited that as an example, it pieced it together for me.&nbsp; It’s so true that behind the exo-skeleton of abrasiveness and aggression are parts that long and yearn for deeper connection, but are smothered and limited by programming and fear.&nbsp; I’ve also come to that conclusion that they are built on the same patterns as me; they’re holding exaggerated parts of me to work with, which is by no means a simple task, laughs, and I value them for wearing it.&nbsp; I have found that as I have observed my sponsoring energy and shifted within, this creates an opportunity for them to reflect the new pattern.&nbsp; This can be very freeing, however there is still the other levels like social consciousness, that can draw them back into the old patterns. The choice points can be a template of lucidity in an otherwise chaotic nightmare.&nbsp; We can’t be attached to an outcome we can only be genuine when we share our own process.<br /> </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>khatru wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;ve been looking at what I&#039;ve attracted lately, but it&#039;s been kind of like not being able to look away at the scene of a car crash.</p></blockquote></div><p>Very funny and true for me too. It helps to share. Thanks. You helped me see something I have been missing. Speaking of car crashes, I eventually hope to find the time to tune in properly and write some karma and reincarnation stories.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 05:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>WEOPPOSEDECEPTION wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I read an interesting thread on abovetopsecret by John Lear. He says Whitley Schreiber told him whatever you do, DON&#039;T go into the light. Lear says he doesn&#039;t intend to follow that suggestion, that earth is a school we can&#039;t leave until we &quot;graduate&quot;, and that our souls are recycled by some type of &quot;soul-catcher&quot; located on the moon.</p></blockquote></div><p>So you mean, we&#039;re <em>lunch</em>?! Really, it&#039;s known as the &quot;Harvest.&quot; The whole &quot;Harmonic Convergience&quot; scam was nothing but free beer on the house, courtesy the White Light Construct.</p><p>You really gotta check this site, it&#039;s pretty heavy with a scenario that the whole airy-fairy, New Age, Ascension-by-2012 Show is nothing but a War In Heaven-ish psychic swindle, and turns the whole New Age Mythos on its head. That&#039;s right. God is dead.</p><p><a href="http://www.desteni-universe.co.za/">http://www.desteni-universe.co.za/</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 23:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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