Noble Realms — Unchosen Incarnation

Re: Unchosen Incarnation

null@example.com (freebird) — Sat, 04 Sep 2004 09:01:41 +0000

What I have felt is that the content of the posts has corresponded with insights I have had myself. About how the matrix works or is set up if you like. I thought the analogy of the Lamed Vavniks could explain something that was significant here. Language is a tool to explain that.
And, yes there is a need for healing in the world. Too much potential goes to waste. There is too much unlived life. The scapegoats as I have come to associate with this theory of the Lamed Vavnik stand as receptors to most projected unconcious selves. That's what I thought could be shed light on.
And finally, I'm not trying to be clever or anything. I just know, and most of all feel how bad it is with this world as we are restricted to see it. Any person who sees the bigger picture contributes to improve this so that we can possibly be allowed to evolve and be creative in all sorts of ways. As members of this board we are contributors to this board that as I understand it could help us find clues to free us from an ever more blatant matrix-imprisonment.
H

Re: Unchosen Incarnation

null@example.com (veritas) — Sat, 04 Sep 2004 05:53:08 +0000

sure thing, aaron. it's definitely not just you - this has indeed been a confusing exchange.

Re: Unchosen Incarnation

null@example.com (aaronfirebrand) — Fri, 03 Sep 2004 21:15:12 +0000

veritas, your comfirmation of the confusion here is appreciated, as are your comments regarding my posts. Every now and then, when something like this comes along, I tend to ask myself "is it just me?". Thanks for the answer to that question.

Re: Unchosen Incarnation

null@example.com (veritas) — Fri, 03 Sep 2004 19:55:51 +0000

freebird - i am trying to determine if when you wrote:

"Read through Aaronfirebrands's posts briefly. Perhaps there is something there; and explanation"

did you mean that YOU "read (past tense) through aaronfirebrand's posts briefly?" or were you recommending that WE "read (present tense) through aaronfirebrand's posts briefly?" the lack of a subject in that particular sentence leaves the reader to interpret your meaning in those two possible ways. i, myself, read it the way i think aaron did - as a directive for us here in the forum to examine aaron's posts for something hidden. it struck me as odd too - especially because i have always enjoyed aaron's posts as clear, direct, insightful, and well-intentioned. aaron's response to your subject-less sentence was:

"I'm curious, freebird, as to why you would refer others to my posts as you did. What do you think might be there?"

to me, the tone of his post was respectful and inquisitive - not suspicious. is it possible that a simple misinterpretation of that one sentence has resulted in even more misunderstanding? keep in mind, i speak on no one's behalf here and mean not to intrude on the exchange you two are having. but i'll admit, i'm pretty damn curious about this particular communication breakdown, so please clarify if you can, freebird. thanks.

Re: Unchosen Incarnation

null@example.com (aaronfirebrand) — Fri, 03 Sep 2004 18:07:18 +0000

It means:
Gabba
Gabba
Hey

It's advisable to Not put words in my mouth, or to give another meaning to my actual words. Or to speculate on what has been plainly stated.

Lamed Vavniks are not the result of programming. How would "deprogramming" serve them? Or healing? They're not ill.

I'm amazed at the number of people on this forum who seem to be here for other reasons than to discuss ideas on neutral ground. You seem to be having a problem with me, freebird. So what is it? I ask an honest question of you and I get smeared with terms like "suspicious" and then "ill-intentions" is grafted into the context. What I don't get is an answer to the question.

One last thing. If you are going to try to interpret intentions from someone's words, be aware that while it may serve your purposes, it really helps no one.

Gabba Gabba Hey!

Re: Unchosen Incarnation

null@example.com (freebird) — Fri, 03 Sep 2004 11:08:15 +0000

What the :x do you mean by that?
H

Re: Unchosen Incarnation

null@example.com (aaronfirebrand) — Fri, 03 Sep 2004 10:41:44 +0000

Gabba Gabba Hey...

Re: Unchosen Incarnation

null@example.com (freebird) — Fri, 03 Sep 2004 10:28:04 +0000

All right. Suspicious is a very charged word. I might be a bit fly-away with words sometimes. (moon in gemini) So, sorry about that. Still: personally I put more down to intentions and so on, not physically the words in them selves. Words as tools perhaps. I don't think you have any ill intentions.
The idea of lightning rods is interesting and to me it sounds plausible from what I can perceive. I think the task would have to be to sort of dismantle that effect by means of what you for instance could call deprogramming. -Healing really I would say. I think it is kept as it is by means of a/the matrix programme. That can be viewed from different vantage points of course. -Otherwise I will refer to what I wrote previously.

Re: Unchosen Incarnation

null@example.com (aaronfirebrand) — Thu, 02 Sep 2004 18:03:21 +0000

Some interesting ideas, freebird. I'd considered the Lamed Vavniks (if they exist--this is mysticism, after all) to be like lightning rods, attracting negative energy which might otherwise overload the world.
And freebird, "suspicious" is a charged term and will provoke a reaction from anyone. You have apparently made some assumptions regarding my posts. You pointed to them without clear reference, and I merely asked the equivalent of "huh?". After all, you mentioned my posts as being worth a second look. That you were looking for "something that could free us as souls". Almost implying that something in my posts pertained to that. I'm like, "Really?? What? Where?" If there's something in my posts that would do that, I'm unaware of it. Hence my question. So I'm suspicious?? As I said nothing indicating any suspicion on my part, it seems a little odd that you would say what you did. Assumptions about what others are thinking cause nothing but communication breakdown (a tip of the ol' hat to led zeppelin).

Re: Unchosen Incarnation

null@example.com (freebird) — Thu, 02 Sep 2004 10:44:25 +0000

It is not your post that seems suspicious. In fact it is interesting. I thought you found what I wrote suspicious.
What I was thinking of is the part of kabalah(how on earth do you spell that again) you were talking about which I thought might provide an explanation to something. I have read some about it: the tree of life and so on. Which was interesting and quite amuzing. I guess that was Kabalah in a more popularized form.
Regarding the Lamed Vavnik; it might possibly be a clue to some of the things that keep the matrix running I think, since I have now read through your posts about it a few times to check if I hadn't missed out something. Still feel the same. The idea that some individuals have to stay in sort of a heavily charged energy reinforced by scapegoating. Which is connected to something esoterical that is deliberately kept so. This may be observed if you look at matrix-mentality for example. I believe the matrix is kept going by something like very overcharged mental energy. A bit like spinning disks. To the detriment of the emotional, feeling potentials in us humans.

OK Aaronfirebrand?
H

Re: Unchosen Incarnation

null@example.com (aaronfirebrand) — Wed, 01 Sep 2004 16:29:50 +0000

freebird, all I asked was what you thought might be in my posts that others might want to check out. Now tell me what the hell seems "suspicious" about that. If someone points to you, it is quite natural to ask why.

Re: Unchosen Incarnation

null@example.com (freebird) — Wed, 01 Sep 2004 14:27:52 +0000

I'll read it through more carefully aaronfirebrand. You sound a bit suspicious. Don't be please. I don't theoretically know so much although I have a degree course in comparative religion I couldn't or wouldn't take part in religious disputes. I trust what I feel intuitively. Briefing through, I thought there was something there. But seems a bit like having to become very theoretical about religious theories, conspiracy theories etc. My way is a bit different and I also believe in it. The feeling that something should be clarified or done is there though, since I have seen past the front of the mentality of TPB and underneath the surface.
H

Re: Unchosen Incarnation

null@example.com (aaronfirebrand) — Tue, 31 Aug 2004 16:44:01 +0000

I'm curious, freebird, as to why you would refer others to my posts as you did. What do you think might be there?

Re: Unchosen Incarnation

null@example.com (freebird) — Tue, 31 Aug 2004 11:45:08 +0000

What I think is/or mean is that some of us who are here are just regarded as fuel. Could it then be that we were brought(forced) into incarnation to serve someone/something? I know I've been hooked up to certain people. Have worked on cutting links with them very much lately. They also have people who work on the ground level for them so to speak. Familiar material really, but I believe in seeing it from different angles in an experienced way. I am intuitive rather than theoretical, and will stay like that too. Would not really like to discuss religion, rather what things directly are experienced as. Read through Aaronfirebrands's posts briefly. Perhaps there is something there; and explanation. I am looking for something that could free us as souls.
H

Re: Unchosen Incarnation

null@example.com (freebird) — Sun, 29 Aug 2004 09:37:03 +0000

Interesting info. I know about a tower from before. This is intuitive. Apparently it has an esoterical meaning also. As humans we are sort of caught up in a relay towards this and/or something else by means of programmers being given order to pass it on. It is being perpetuated. From some of the info I get the impression that the machinery was somewhat crumbling. Perhaps it gets like that when more and more people get unplugged from the harvesting tubes.
H