In my honest opinion if you are a Wanderer(ET soul) as you claim then your mind set shouldn't be about going back to your realm living this Earth in its usual mess............you and others should be bringing your realm here so that the Earthly inhabitants can experience this superior civilisation.

First of all--shoulda', coulda', woulda', oughta... in my honest opinion, are words used by a perfectionist.  So you're losing me there, but let me say this:

Who says Wanderers as an FRE are solely, even souly, responsible for changing a chaotic mastermind mess into Uthopia? This reminds me of a story .

A  few years ago I went to a Medicine Woman for counsel and an energetic healing session.  During the counsel she told me that when I was to go on a Geology class field trip, diving off of the southern tip of FL, and for one learning experiencing we would be viewing a dead coral reef bed down there.  She made the claim that my "healing presence" there would "bring the reef back to life".  Wow, huh?  BS.  This so overwhelmed me at the time because I sure as heck didn't feel I had the kind of empowerment it takes to bring something that's dead back to life.  And John, I still don't. The trip was eventually cancelled because of a hurricane that was blowing in.

A few years later I asked the C's about what this woman said to me, this is how it went--

John, when the "universe" is ready to fix this dimension of earth existence, then it will revise, and if it's to be just like you want it to be, whatever that is?... well, you're going to be waiting a long time for the manifestation of that... because you'll find yourself in a seemingly endless long line. I know my FRE, my individual one especially, is such a negligent slice of all creation.  I have no expectations or ideations of myself, nor my FRE, to be the "saviours" of humanity. Really dude, do you?

On this "Extraterrestrial souls" page I mentioned FREs--Frequency Resonance Envelopes, similar to the idea of a "soul group"--and I wrote about ET souls belonging to a particular FRE.  I think it's highly likely, as best as I can figure, that there are different FRE's of differing ET souls having "come to life" in 3D Land.  One example obviously being, and using the common names/labels for these ET soul beings, a Reptilian FRE and a Wanderer FRE.  As I was just thinking about how hard it can be to understand the idea of FRE's I was "impressed" with this example--

Take a particular geographic area of the planet for example... let's say Eastern Asia.  Eastern Asia now becomes "the planet" in the example, a microcosm of the global community. For the time being just imagine that all that exists in 3D Land is only East Asia. Within East Asia, within that geographic boundary line, the cut of lines that divide Eastern Asia from India and Eastern Europe, and the Pacific Ocean, in this example is now defined as the planetary FRE. Inside this envelope there are different countries and their boundary lines distinguish a further rate of frequency refinement/focus, energetic resonation. They also become separate FREs.

Energetic resonation in this example is designated by socio-cultural differences. Koreans have a distinct culture from Filipinos, and as well do the Vietnamese, etc..  And yet, for the most part they share much in common given the evolutionary alikeness of their physical genetic "expression" ( eye shape and color, skin tone, atypical body shape, etc.). 

In this instance, in order to compare different ET soul FRE's, without judgment--just as one can recognize the cultural and physical differences of Eastern Asian countries (FRE's) in an objective way, only observing... also is there a Wanderer FRE coexisting in a dimensional space, the earth realm, right "along" with a Reptilian FRE, all within the Earth realm FRE. In this sense each FRE would be like a different country.

Now, by virtue of our genetic expression we "blossom" into Homo sapiens on the planet , we look alike, and yet we can be as different as night and day. I think it's our energetic soul "cultural" differences that can and will continue to obviously draw distinctions between our FRE boundary lines, and as long as we're in this earth realm of a duality consciousness this is "bound" to happen. Where Japan may be more religiously inclined to Buddhism, Filipinos are more inclined to Christianity. Where, as many have reported to a great extent, the Reptilian soul FRE is more inclined to a STS frequency of being, Wanderer's are more inclined to a STO frequency of being... and for better or worse, depending upon your perspective, from there we go forth.

Personally, when I look at STS/STO issues from this perspective that All, every single snippet of my environment has it's place and time and rate of cosmic energetic frequency... and as well, where I know I AM NOT responsible for the creation of the other-than-my-own rate of energetic frequency (YCROR only holds so much water for me), I then also find that I actually have very little control or influence over the Reptilian soul FRE. 

I have very strong feelings about saying prayers or meditating to change the "native" nature of another, no matter how much I don't like them and their energetic "uniqueness". I feel this way not only because of the judgment aspect of it, myself not being Infinite Cosmic Intelligence in a funky little organic package sitting in front of my 'puter writing, but also because I do not want the same wish-craft to be set as intent upon me. I refuse to do to another what I wouldn't want to happen to me!  I think it creates funky karma to practice wish-craft that another unlike oneself becomes more like oneself because "I think my way is the only and right way". Nor am I going to judge another that they're wrong and choose my friends based on an "It's my way or the highway" mentality, that is as long as they are not violating me. The only thing is though, STS energy so often does indeed violate one striving to reach their STO actualization.

My personal soul story... I'm going to call it my "letter" to the Creator describing who I have been, who I am today, and what I want to become in the future (for the sake of symbology, and the part of YCROR I think does have some implications to my "being")... my "letter" simply doesn't fit into that Reptilian or ANY OTHER FREnvelope that exists in the earth realm, and vice versa, and it never will as I exist here now. It's not something I am going to waste my "precious time" in-body on... this is my opportunity to learn and grow. If someone else happens to "get" something out of my growth process because I take the initiative to share... well then good for me, good for them, but I don't want to anticipate that this is an expectation.

For this I can view the differences in human nature as naturally occurring, and a relevant reason for me to believe All to be just what they are supposed to be in the here and now, as well as in the bigger picture, that which is outside the MCS. I have oriented myself, the cat-dog that I am , to simply work on my own energy by raising my vibration through cleansing my energy system... LOL! and this is more than enough to keep me vewee, vewee busy . Snicker! Snort! 

I "push the envelope", my individual FRE, to release and purge old negative thought forms, as I've just recently done yet one more freaking time (seems like it just never ends!). I don't do this because it's fun, because it's not, I don't do this because I think it's going to get me into something like "Heaven", I don't believe in heaven, I don't do this because I have ideations of being "perfect", perfection is just too far out of my reach given where I've "come to life" (and I can accept this)... I do this because when the shift/wave comes and that window of opportunity for "me and mine", my FRE, arises to transition I want to be at the front of the envelope pushin' it through that border realm portal opening, "blowing" the FRE, or as I like to say 'blowing this Popsicle stand'... I don't want to be one of those being dragged along, a mere word nearly falling off the page of the FRE "letter", because (and I can only imagine) I think the shift/wave probably has the likelihood and potential of/to basically "knock our socks off", the potential to rip our skin and bones off of our souls.  

The soul that's nearly falling off the page who hasn't done "the work" becomes a cumbersome member, and makes the transition all that much more difficult... maybe even impossible if there are too many falling. I'm thinking that successful transition, if not even as well less traumatic, is going to depend upon whether or not the energetic resonance of my particular FRE be heightened to the nth degree and oscillating at the energetic rate of the density it's headed to--4th, 5th, or 6th? Will the overall FRE "letter" be written well enough to fit into the alter-density FREnvelope waiting on the other side of this "reality" to be filled?  Will we all have learned how to "write" competently enough to "turn the page"?  But most relevant to me, and what I really have to be concerned about, will I have learned to write competently enough?

And FCOL! I am a go-getter, and I just imagine--what if the FRE I identify with were made of the stuff that falls into one of many probable outcomes with the passing of the shift/wave.... maybe we'll all die and go to 5th density, maybe we will have made it to 4D Land, but what if as Wanderers, we do have the power/empowerment to make a hop, skip, and huge leap to 6th density? What if, huh? 

Wanderers so often say "I JUST WANT TO GO HOME!!!" (myself included), sometimes even screaming this to the nothingness that is the sky, or boo-hooing into their pillows this desire to "just go home" before they go to sleep at night (don't deny it fellow Wanderers, heeheehee, I know I'm not the only one who's done these things ), and for me?, the idea of 4D Land as home just doesn't cut it, though it's the way better option than going back into the 3D MCS soup again.  For me, my true "home" and conscious desire is 6D, but I think it's only going to be possible if every single last one of the FRE soul members has their act together, the personal soul "letters" each reading like a fine novel.  Not perfect, mind you, just well written.  This is why I try so hard to get "my work" completed, and frankly/candidly, this is how I exercise my potential as an STO candidate.  I don't want the shame and embarrassment of being that one rogue "I" dangling on the edge of the page that fouls it up for the rest of my FRE.  I truly believe I've met other ET/Wanderer souls in my life... you know, I just simply love them too much to let them down. And now my eyes are starting to leak again so I'm going to stop.

I haven't written all these words here trying to be like an expert, and I don't expect anyone to adopt my beliefs... I guess though I do think it may have some meaning and relevance to one or another reading here otherwise I wouldn't have felt compelled to share. Do my ideas and thoughts "rock your world' in any way, shape, or form?   Even if you disagree with me?

Hey Moralman and all,

Here's how I see things. A soul is a soul. But, a soul will acquire a certain vibration according to what it has learned along its journey. That is, an 'ET soul' from our perspective on Earth would have to be one that was previously incarnating in another realm, OR resided in a level of consciousness (read: density) that no longer required incarnation to learn. All souls are essentially 'extraterrestrial.' They don't hang around Earth constantly, although they may reincarnate here over and over. I suppose, for semantics sake, we can say an non-ET soul is a soul that has not yet advanced past 3D and has been reincarnating here on Earth in a human body for quite some time.

Remember, all souls 'look' the same because to 'look' like something is only a physical concept. The physical representation of a soul would probably just be a ball or point of light. A soul in the non-physical realms is a point of self-aware consciousness.

Dear Seeker
kind regards
I think you have hit the nail on the head and have given a conclusive answer to my questions.
Perhaps the ET souls in human form(whoever they are) and the Nordics will populate the Earth after 2012 to bring the World into a higher Moral realm of consciousness once the Draconian and immature souls have been removed.
Therefore in this sense the World will improve.
This Worlds good inhabitants should inherit this Earth-it isn't fair that evil has such a powerful grip on this planet.
I feel sorry for souls who keep re-incarnating on this planet...........the World has been in a Satanic tip for centuries under the rule of the Illuminati, apostate Popes and the secret society networks.
However things are bound to improve.
I thank you for your bottom line answer.
yours thankfully
John

After all being an ET soul you must have some type of important role?

ALL SOULS have important roles, my friend.

regarding your comment on "draconian souls should leave"
i agree, but listen to what i've heard;

seperation is the first obvious choice when someone does not like something.

but it does not accomplish anything, other than POST-PONING the inevitable confrontation in the future.

see, i heard that *they* tried removing the STS forces from planets/worlds before, they took the STS from Lyra and placed them on Vega. Still had problems. They took the STS from Vega and Gave them an Entire Star System to inhabit: Orion. They still had problems. see, even if you take away the bad and put it elsewhere, it will surface/return again one day.

this is related to your psychological state as well. repressing bad memories or fears will only make it worse; im sure you've heard of this. its better to "face your fears" as they say.

Thus, it is claimed that the Earth is to be the final integration point between polarities, meaning to settle the age-long conflict between STS and STO in all three above mentioned Star Systems.

..... just some more info ive read.

then, theres the possibility that our souls are also living in other places at this very moment right now.

and THEN, you must realize that Time doesnt exist for the Soul, so even if we consider that some "non-et" souls are 'fresh' on earth, you must acknowledge the fact that Time doesnt exist for the Soul, so its existance spans across all ages of the universe.

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here's the real question;

Are SOULS born somewhere? are they CREATED somewhere?

OR

Are there a "Set" amount of SOULS and they incarnate and Do their Thing all the time ?

We can assume that the SOUL is indestructable, that it never Dies.
*BUT* are Souls CREATED/BORN ??

umm, i guess i should give my 2 cents.
If souls are omnipresent, as in Time doesnt exist for them etc... and they are INDESTRUCTABLE, i think this seems to lean toward the "SET AMOUND OF SOULS" theory...

your thoughts ?

Seeker............

That's a great way of putting it. 

Here's something I just thought of.................Earth hasn't always been around.  Are the "Earth souls", or non-ET souls that are here strictly attached to Earth then?   Or will they go someplace else once Earth is gone?   CAN they go and incarnate someplace else?    If they can go someplace else, then have they just moved up the ranks to become an ET soul?   

I'm not sure if I'm wording this right.  I'm at work and trying to hurry, so maybe this isn't making sense.    I do know that I was once talking to a blind pyschic woman that Tom put me in touch with and she laughed that we're ALL "from someplace else", ie, ET souls.  Basically saying I guess that even the "natives" to this planet have incarnated elsewhere at some point in their spiritual evolution.   I do wonder though if there are soul energies who have only ever been attached to Earth and have done all of their evolving here.   I don't know how it works.

Here's how I see things. A soul is a soul. But, a soul will acquire a certain vibration according to what it has learned along its journey. That is, an 'ET soul' from our perspective on Earth would have to be one that was previously incarnating in another realm, OR resided in a level of consciousness (read: density) that no longer required incarnation to learn. All souls are essentially 'extraterrestrial.' They don't hang around Earth constantly, although they may reincarnate here over and over. I suppose, for semantics sake, we can say an non-ET soul is a soul that has not yet advanced past 3D and has been reincarnating here on Earth in a human body for quite some time.

Remember, all souls 'look' the same because to 'look' like something is only a physical concept. The physical representation of a soul would probably just be a ball or point of light. A soul in the non-physical realms is a point of self-aware consciousness.

What is it that makes an ET energy unmistakable?   Is it the aura?  The vibe it gives off?  Or something else?

For some energy readers I've talked to they've said it's like reading the information in the auric field, others read the Akashic record...and for others, myself included, it's about the energetic "vibe", as you call it.   And as well, impressions... in other words 3rd eye viewings of "snippets of film" about another person, as well as myself. Imagination? you may ask... the only thing I can say is through experience I'm clearly able to tell the difference.

For me, when I meet someone face to face, and sometimes even on the internet, like on NR, it is like the recognition "washes" over me. Literally, this feels the same as having a bucket of water poured over my head, except it's energy pouring in, and not so weighty either .

It's like running across an old school chum 20 years later and that feeling of recognition and all the good times and fun come rushing back to the front of the mind, and they talk their heads off for hours--"You're never going to believe what happened to me!"  And the other one says "Oh yeah? Get a load of this!" And on and on it goes... for hours.  I know because I've done this, hooked up with these kindred ET souls, a number of times now, and it always happens this way.  The recognition is too too much to deny.  There is one NR member wherein a personal relationship has developed (much to my joy), we call ourselves "two peas in a pod" because the depth of our connectiveness has served many times over to reveal just how alike we are.

And lyra, I always didn't have such a solid grip on this, even though I've certainly known there were some people I met that I had soul history with and past/other life memories of, but it really wasn't until less than two years ago after I developed a clear understanding about FRE's that I was able to undoubtedly identify this ET soul energy... though I think I only have this depth of recognition for those who belong to the same FRE as me.  I don't think I would have the same ability, hmmm... ability like an Akashic reader has (an "all knowing" I'll say), to intuite quite as constructively about another and their soul make-up if they were outside of the sphere of my FRE.  Nor would I want to take that kind of resposibility.

Another interesting note, something I think is really cool --while I was visiting my friend and her family this past weekend she did Buddhist chanting every morning and night.  At one point during this (I was meditating during these chantings) I had a nice energetic opening and subsequent flowing, and found a really interesting new "prayer" position to hold my hands in (I'm going to post about it).

On Monday night at 9:15, even with the TV on and that man-critter I live with talking to me, as big as day in my 3rd eye, and I do literally mean I heard it in my forehead... what did I hear?  My friend's chanting.  And I just sat there and smiled and tuned out the TV and the man-critter, and listened. I called her the next morning and asked her what time she did her chants the evening before, already knowing the answer, her answer of course 9:15 PM. 

This is probably the most pointed story about the connectiveness that reveals the "knowing", but in the late 90's a friend of mine and I would go into her oak grove backyard at 3 AM sometimes and just quietly meditate.  It never, not once, failed that during this time we "saw" the same things. That was something else also. Me, always tryin' to be scientific/objective , had us write down what we saw before we told one another, twice, and it was always the same... cool, huh?  But she and I could complete each other's sentences too.

Holy spumoni lyra!  I could probably go on about this forever! Sheesh!

   I found out through a number of sources, but the very first was an Akashic reader, and it wasn't much later I met the C's.  Not to mention the various psychic readings through the years where almost everyone of the readers acknowledged the ET soul, or "old soul", being right away.  For those who can "read" energy an ET energy is unmistakeable.

Hi Auendove,

What is it that makes an ET energy unmistakable?   Is it the aura?  The vibe it gives off?  Or something else? 

Thanks!

Good day to you.

All of my words are a reflection of my own personal impressions.

I see you've already done an engine search, but Barbara Marciniak's Bringers of the Dawn goes into this some.

I found out through a number of sources, but the very first was an Akashic reader, and it wasn't much later I met the C's.  Not to mention the various psychic readings through the years where almost everyone of the readers acknowledged the ET soul, or "old soul", being right away.  For those who can "read" energy an ET energy is unmistakeable.

I'm sorry to sound like I'm correcting your words, I am not being condescending here, but there is no other way to explain this to you without beating around the bush... selection is, I think, incorrect word usage, or not a word choice I would ever use in the context of this question. 

All I can say to this is: ET soul, Earth generated soul, Organic Portal, and whatever else fits the list?  What I think about it is at some point all of these incepted from the same Creator "pool", that there is an equity somewhere in cosmic consciousness where All exists at a base form, and in equity.

If the word "selection" was rephrased in a more appropriate question the answer would be that the ET soul, having consciously evoluted beyond 3D, selected to return to this Earth experience we are living in today.  The word selection as you've used it intimates privlege, though understandable that you would think as much LOL!, my mind and heart always go to the place of equity. This is where I'm unable to be judgemental.

It is as you read Brother/Man.  Maybe all that really matters for now is what you think and do with this information.  As for the general public... it's just a matter of time, or it won't become known at all... you see, who really knows how "all of this" is going to work out?

John, it is not so much that I "envision a perfect World", it's that outside of my current human experience my soul, in whatever form of vessel it was "living" in (even if that vessel is formless Light energy), has indeed existed in a "perfect world".  I inherently know at a broadest, strongest base point in my being that living in social harmony is indeed possible... though seemingly not here in 3D Land.  At least not yet. It takes a great leap of faith on my part to believe that from all this chaos will actually one day come unification... and still I hold onto that faith as if it is my gold, a direct contrast to the materialism of holding gold in 3D Land.