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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Images or &#039;hallucinations&#039; that appear before or after sleep are called Hypnogogia. I&#039;ve been studying if for years and there is surprisingly little research done on it. Pleanty of dream research, but less about visions that occur before and after sleep. One of the key researchers of this is Andreas Mavromatis. He wrote a book entitled Hypnagogia. It&#039;s on the rare books list and retails at $250 these days. I stumbled upon a copy and have read it several times. Too much to mention in this post about it, but I think it really IS the key to the pineal gland and psychic experiences.<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;I&#039;ve been writing about etheric squids for years now: <a href="http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=5379">http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=5379</a><br />&nbsp; &nbsp;Is just one of them.<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;I mostly posted them on The Enigma League where you can find me under the same username. Though I think they lost alot of their data in a crash, so they might not be around anymore.<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;The squids I have seen are not nice folk. I see them hovering above me after sleep paralysis experiences or lucid nightmares. I once had an OBE that I was hovering over my house and I saw a whole herd of them going from house to house. My take is that they are the recon devices of the lizzies.<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;An entity can tell you anything it wants for whatever reason they want to. I don&#039;t believe any of them anymore.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[GreyCat]]></name>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I experience this quite frequently. It is what the psychoanalyst Carl Jung called &#039;active imagination&#039; and what Jungian Kabbalist Yakov HaKohain calls &#039;giving a voice to God&#039;.</p><p>I suggest that you read a lengthy article on the subject by HaKohain titled &#039;Participating in the Continuing Incarnation of God&#039;.</p><p>Excerpt:</p><p>&quot;Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him.&quot; (Rev. 3:2)</p><p>To summarize, I&#039;ve been discussing the process I call &quot;giving a voice to God,&quot; wherein one uses the faculty of &quot;imagining&quot; to create a bridge within himself between the unconscious Psyche and the consciousness world, whereby the former can enter into the latter and thereby become liberated from its entrapment in the Sitrah Achrah or, in Kabbalistic terms, &quot;Other [Dark] Side.&quot; Before continuing to a description of the deceptively simple steps whereby this &quot;giving a voice to God&quot; can be practiced, it&#039;s important to consider what Jung calls the &quot;reality of the Psyche [or &#039;Self&#039;].&quot; Of this &quot;inner God,&quot; he writes:</p><p>&quot;If we try to define the psychological structure of the religious experience which saves, heals and makes whole, the simplest formula we can find would seem to be the following: in religious experience man comes face to face with a psychically overwhelming Other . . . As against this I have urged that the Psyche be recognized as having its own peculiar reality . . . Whatever the reality of the Psyche may be, it seems to coincide with the reality of life and at the same time to have a connection with the formal laws governing the inorganic world. For the Psyche has yet another property which most of us would rather not admit, namely, that peculiar factor which relativizes space and time.&quot; (Collected Works: Vol. 10, par. 655)</p><p>Thus, this &quot;Psyche,&quot; this &quot;Self&quot; (or indwelling presence of God), is not, at least according to Jung, some theoretical construct determined by our &quot;beliefs&quot; or &quot;culture,&quot; but a self-created, autonomous reality that IS rather than supposed. Of this Self, Jung goes on to say:</p><p>&quot;The Self is a quantity that is supraordinate to the conscious ego.It embraces not only the conscious but also the unconscious Psyche, and is therefore, so to speak, a personality which we also are.&quot; (Two Essays on Analytical Psychology, par. 274)</p><p>In this way, Jung resembles the Jnana Yogis of Hinduism such as Sri Ramanamaharshi who stated in his Talks, &quot;The Self is ever there, there is nothing without it. Be the Self and the desires and doubts will disappear.&quot; (page 5)</p><p>It is to this &quot;be-ing&quot; of the Self that the process of &quot;giving a voice to God&quot; is directed.</p><p> &quot;When I fix my thoughts on the Creator, I let my mouth speak what it will, for the words are bound to the Higher Roots.&quot; -- The Baal Shem Tov</p><p>Concerning the psychic process he called, &quot;active imagination&quot; (of which &quot;giving a voice to God&quot; is a special, Kabbalistic case), Jung wrote (in English rather than his characteristic German) the following step-by-step directions to a &quot;Mr. O&quot; on 30 April 1947:</p><p>&quot;Start with any image . . . Contemplate it and carefully observe how the picture begins to unfold or to change. Don&#039;t try to make it into something, just do nothing but observe what its spontaneous changes are. Any mental picture you contemplate in this way will sooner or later change through a spontaneous association that causes a slight alteration of the picture. You must carefully avoid impatient jumping from one subject to another. Hold fast to the one image you have chosen and wait until it changes by itself. Note all these changes AND EVENTUALLY STEP INTO THE PICTURE YOURSELF, AND IF IT IS A SPEAKING FIGURE AT ALL [SUCH AS GOD] THEN SAY WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY TO THAT FIGURE AND LISTEN TO WHAT HE OR SHE HAS TO SAY [IN REPLY].&quot; (Collected Letters: Vol. 1, p. 460.)</p><p>Article: <a href="http://www.donmeh-west.com/incarn.shtml">http://www.donmeh-west.com/incarn.shtml</a></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-12-29T01:00:10Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Update:</p><p>I have had some new developements with my experiences so I am posting this here. </p><p>Shiny surfaces with elaborate designs. </p><p>Mostly when I am going to sleep and just close my eyes I get a series of visuals. They have varying themes but one of the most common ones is the visions of some shiny yellowish surfaces with very intricate designs carved out on them. I cannot make out the whole object in front of me - either they are like some ancient vessels or tablets, or maybe old coins. When I see them I alsways think of Mayan or Sumerian ornaments. </p><p>Chariots and pharaohs.</p><p>Sometimes the visuals run the Egyptian theme - there are chariots with charioteers, various figures of the gods and nobles and various hieroglyphs. Most of the images are static, but somtimes these &quot;visitors from the pharaohs&quot;, as I call them, are engaged in some sort of weird looking dance where the movements are very geometrically correct and very hypnotizing. </p><p>Forests, buildings, faces.</p><p>Recently, I started getting the visuals of the forests, buildings, and faces of people. Initially, all the visuals were just static, but lately, there have been a few with motion. I mentioned this to my mother-in-law because she seems to have some extrasensory abilities, and she told me that she has had that since her youth. She even made a joke out of it in her family - when she wanted to get a nap, she would say: I wanna go look at the mugs. :-)</p><p>I also noticed a strange thing related to my astral projections. I often notice a very bright light source either in my lucid dreams or in my astral projections. It is either in the form of a very bright and hot sun, or some projector. The light is so intense that I have to squint and cover my eyes. Also, when trying to induce an astral projection lying in my bed, I am often bothered by a bright light. I assume that it is a sun ray that slips though the curtans but when I open my eyes and check around the room the lighting is quite dim and cannot interfere with my attempts to astral project.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[GenSek]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-12-28T23:14:28Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>GenSek wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>belljar wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well, it&#039;s good to know someone else has had it. Don&#039;t know what it means but I&#039;m sure there is someone here who could take a guess. If I was being vague I would say oh you are changing vibrations and going to a higher frequency but that just sounds too childish maybe?</p></blockquote></div><p>I think that practically everyone who does astral projections is familiar with what you are talking about. Almost every time I OBE I have some sort of vibrations or what feels like tremendous roaring sound like that of a plane. Or sometimes, there is a very strong buzzing that fills you from the inside. So, you are definitely not alone. ;-)</p></blockquote></div><p>See but the body vibrating thing happened when I was awake and not have an OBE. The ear vibrating thing happened when I was having OBEs. That&#039;s what is strange to me.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-05-04T21:37:44Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Last night I had one of my visions. I saw a three dimensional structure whick looked like a mesh of cords twisted into a spiral. There were what looked like offshoots on the cords. The offshoots had different colors and had regular geometric shapes. Sort of like nodes. Each geometric shape had its own color. I remember thinking to myself: &quot;This looks like a DNA spiral.&quot;</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-05-04T20:34:33Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>belljar wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well, it&#039;s good to know someone else has had it. Don&#039;t know what it means but I&#039;m sure there is someone here who could take a guess. If I was being vague I would say oh you are changing vibrations and going to a higher frequency but that just sounds too childish maybe?</p></blockquote></div><p>I think that practically everyone who does astral projections is familiar with what you are talking about. Almost every time I OBE I have some sort of vibrations or what feels like tremendous roaring sound like that of a plane. Or sometimes, there is a very strong buzzing that fills you from the inside. So, you are definitely not alone. ;-)</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-05-04T20:24:18Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of the few times I&#039;ve been woken up by a vibrating ear. Really strong too but just one of my ears. One of them I woke up to it vibrating then I projected out to the sun. That was wild. The sun was really strange like it was changing.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-05-04T18:20:01Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The area inbetween sleep and awake is blurry but I was dreaming of a buzzing sound <br />and when I woke up, I could of swore I could still hear the buzzing sound in the room <br />for a few seconds, before it dissapated.<br />This lead me to think that what I create in my dreams or experience in my dreams, can be made real <br />or manifest in the &quot;real world&quot; ,which would then make this world, not &quot;real&quot; as I knew it,which<br />helped in my becoming aware.</p><p>I woke up the next night and for a few seconds could swear that my head was buzzing,<br />vibrating, at an incredible rate but small in area or ,the lenght of vibration from on side to another,<br />was approx 3 mm away from my head each way.<br />My head was not off the pillow but the pillow was not really there.<br />It felt good.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-05-04T11:12:48Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#039;s good to know someone else has had it. Don&#039;t know what it means but I&#039;m sure there is someone here who could take a guess. If I was being vague I would say oh you are changing vibrations and going to a higher frequency but that just sounds too childish maybe?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-05-04T04:06:40Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>belljar wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Has anyone felt themselves vibrate not before an OBE I mean fully awake. I thought there was an earthquake LOL</p></blockquote></div><p>Wow...yes that has happened to me before!&nbsp; I had forgotten all about it.&nbsp; It was several years ago, but yeah it felt just like an earthquake.&nbsp; Like everything around me was vibrating but I was the only one who could feel it.&nbsp; It wasn&#039;t like I was having a dizzy spell or anything like that.&nbsp; Just one of those things I filed away in my mind, because I never had any explanation for it.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-05-04T03:34:42Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Interesting ideas zenden as always. Has anyone felt themselves vibrate not before an OBE I mean fully awake. I thought there was an earthquake LOL But my body wasn&#039;t shaking it was just humming all over. I&#039;ll have these incidents about once a month. Also OBEs have been a lot more frequent and I have been running into what we&#039;ll just call the others I guess of various types. They just seemed confused by me for some reason which I don&#039;t know why. Aren&#039;t they supposed to have a manual on me like you said zenden? I&#039;m just so flighty and free spirited I guess. LOL The best OBE I had in the last few months was one where I went out and I found my dog was out too. Anyway I think my pineal gland has always been pretty active and it just keeps getting stronger. But, trying to balance all this is the difficult part. Like don&#039;t let people know you can see fields and auras around everything and everybody. Don&#039;t let them know that when you look at the world you can see it as holographic. Don&#039;t tell them that you leave your body. Or that you can tune into different realities without really trying. Hide it because any differences they see as weakness and they will pounce on you. </p><p><img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/neutral.png" width="15" height="15" alt="neutral" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[belljar]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-05-04T02:55:05Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>i wanted u guys to see this.&nbsp; its old, and id never seen it said like this before, but i think its partly because of this.</p><p>from our favorite Blue&#039;s &quot;blue&quot; google groups mission control.&nbsp; wings of isis--part 1.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>the inner and outer pituitary also work with the pineal and hypothalamus<br />..... the pineal is like a radio antenna receiver .... it channels and steps<br />down energy from the spirit/soul into the spacesuit .... when changing<br />frequency channels this is where it occurs .... the pituitary takes this<br />energy/information and and creates sensory biofeedback .... thru eyes /<br />ears/ nose ... loopback ..... </p><p>when both pituitary and pineal are in synch a resonance chamber ... or a<br />communication corridor pathway is setup between the two ... causing a<br />illuminating view .... see auras ... or experience kundalini effects ...<br />electrical / magnetic / plasmic vibrant colours .... 3rd eye peripheral<br />vision .... this sometimes can be heard as a hum .... or electrical<br />crackling sound ....</p><p>when these two chakras begin to resonate together ... it is likened to that<br />of dragon-fly wings buzzing ... four wings .. .four chambers of the brain<br />.... and thus the term &quot;wings of isis&quot;</p></blockquote></div><p>and i had seen this right about the time i found the alphabet sounds, symbols, supposed &quot;real&quot; meanings were originally an isis-generated development.</p><p>then, one can even check out if that HUM sound, noise, that ENT Doc has heard, along with nexus&#039;s latest post on sound and the I AM that I AM, and assess if connections.&nbsp; &nbsp;seems very synonymous, or likely that that generation of sound, with glands as receivers (ie. electrical energy or electromagnetic energy) may align with that power spot that humans have, wherein the pituitary and the pineal synch in a resonance chamber.&nbsp; the hum noise is generated from that. ive seen that hum associated with torsion vacuum fields--the portals? </p><p>ive read one theory that when the shift starts to begin, it will be felt from within, and that a very novel hum will begin, and reverberate across the land.&nbsp; it will become gradually pronounced.&nbsp; will start and generate,&nbsp; BE in ur head.&nbsp; now, what if it does begin because the antennae of the &quot;new human&quot;&nbsp; easily and readily picks up on that, and goes with that flow to meld into 4--5D,&nbsp; almost automatically since we always have our collective and individual antenna up, were very &quot;attuned&quot;.&nbsp; weve been training to be so tuned.&nbsp; we work that all the time.&nbsp; other humans wont be able to access that easily but some will, because theyre living from heart.&nbsp; awareness and heart causes the most tuning, the way in, the seat of the soul, thats ready to shift, bump up.&nbsp; the heart and mind are connected, so possibly that pineal-pituitary kicks in and that resonant chamber is put into drive mode, when pshycis are jusr &#039;right&#039; for the shift.&nbsp; &nbsp;the sensations from that pituitary-pineal-hypothalamic chamber guide and protect and arrange for the shift to take place.&nbsp; the hum is the change in vibration, and its all around those that will be shifting.&nbsp; the personal individual and even group resonance will equate with the cymatics of the hum.&nbsp; its physiological, hence the biological ascension.&nbsp; the vibrational frequency is personal, individual and even group too, if theres that much resonance.&nbsp; the frequencies jive or feed back to each other, in a feedback loop, ever ranging higher in frequency (im no physics major--get montalk and others in here) so that where one lands will be where they fit with the corresponding cymatic levels of frequency.&nbsp; one could literally materialize and rematerialize molecularly, like in star trek.&nbsp; therefore, there is no death.&nbsp; no death with that.&nbsp; totally unnecessary.&nbsp; </p><p>i will also go out on a limb (heh) and speculate that the electrical hum/humming noise ppl hear (belljar, montalk, many others have felt/heard it) when negs show up is from that corridor.&nbsp; and those entities know that, somehow stimulate that area upon attack and generate their show from there.&nbsp; thats what makes them powerful.&nbsp; or look so.&nbsp; they have a manual on us, that we dont own and have difficulty getting our hands on.&nbsp; &nbsp;if we only knew how things worked more, we&#039;d have an upper hand.&nbsp; so i think this pituitary pineal linked hotbox.&nbsp; ive heard too, that when alien announcements take place. theyll target the mind with a hum, first and then &quot;tune in.&quot;&nbsp; and start broadcasting from there.&nbsp; its the inside radio station.&nbsp; and this maybe explains it i think.</p><p>going OUT even further, id venture to say, this feeling, wherein this stimulation starts to signal could be used to prepare for the non-split ba ka no cord cut idea.&nbsp; thus we live on, in another dimension.&nbsp; and get ready to be in the realms where the &#039;others&#039; live.&nbsp; psi kick-in at full blast, which looks like that would happen in an alignment anyway.&nbsp; we go in/thru whole.&nbsp; we have become what weve desired, the intent is the outcome.&nbsp; with no FEAR.&nbsp; no guilt, because we know about such things.&nbsp; we could feel what was coming with it, from that axis point, know what to do with that.&nbsp; we have to know what to do, what to think, feel.&nbsp; we&#039;d have to trust in that and since&nbsp; it would be on a level of vibration we align with, i think it might be less scary.&nbsp; hopefully.&nbsp; we will have to go with it, and no looking back.&nbsp; im not going to stop those swirly things if thats how i recognize it starting.&nbsp; that might have been done to show me how realm borders look/feel.&nbsp; thats why everybody&#039;s on their own with this.&nbsp; one can only hope, and ill say pray, for lack of what else would substitute there, that our loved ones will have it together to go in tandem.&nbsp; or in those groups.&nbsp; talk about a &#039;trip&#039; for all us old hippies.&nbsp; RUSH for/OF the VANGUARD.&nbsp; the ultimate kundalini.&nbsp; see, that may be why we came here, to experience that.&nbsp; wouldnt that be the total ULTIMATE icing on the final chessboard game cake?!&nbsp; it would be a full circle journey for all the ear-ringers, trippers, experiencers, dabblers of the esoteric in this life.&nbsp; looking forward to something like this, if not this then, close to it.&nbsp; and that pineal-pituitary axis is where the egyptians thot advanced enlightenment was derived.&nbsp; they had tests and exercises that stimulated that power spot.&nbsp; they knew alot of great stuff, but so do the other side.&nbsp; thats why we need something to go with this, like trust or faith or?&nbsp; knowledge?&nbsp; or?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[zenden]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-05-04T00:19:45Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Huh, well after some meditation, I just decided to stare at my ceiling. I saw the usual blobs move by, but they quickly bored me. So I just laid there, closing my left eye and staring with my right. As I was doing this, I began to see what looked like vines/tentacles flowing in geometric patterns. Maybe it&#039;s connected <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-05-02T18:05:07Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>kinsei wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Yet another amazing synchronicity; this forum really is full of surprises... </p><p>Before going to sleep one night sometime in the middle of last week, as I started closing my eyes, I also had one of these octopus/squid beings in my vision (I identified it more as an octopus at the time, as the strongest visual in my mind was of the characteristic large suction cups on the tentacles).</p><p>The weird thing is, right as this vision appeared, it&#039;s like my normal mental conscious thoughtstream just turned off immediately, and in its place it felt like my higher self just instantaneously took over the words going through my head.&nbsp; And during the 30 seconds or so of this, this voice, my higher voice, talked as if it already recognized this creature/being without any doubt.&nbsp; It had a brief conversation with the octopus, in which it said something to the effect that its time &quot;here&quot; was now over, that there is no resentment for the events up this point since they were infact necessary, but that time has now passed and so it was time for our ways to part.&nbsp; And the weird thing is the octopus didn&#039;t fight this at all, it responded in this plain semi-intellectual Alan Rickman kinda voice where it said so be it, i&#039;ll be on my way then... and it was completely unemotional, like I didn&#039;t feel like this being was an &quot;attachment&quot; in the vampiric nasty sense, it was more like it was attached but for the purposes of a job of some sort, because as soon as my higher self said that time was done, the being acted like &quot;very well, my work here is complete then, adieu&quot; and swam off.</p><p>The interesting thing is, I&#039;ve been quitting smoking (had to; my health was seriously suffering for it, it was no longer an option) and was using a nicotine patch, which I was down to the last &quot;step&quot; on but couldn&#039;t quite seem to kick... until the next day after that octopus meeting, wherein I not only didn&#039;t want to put on another nicotine patch, but the idea of doing so almost felt kinda nautious.&nbsp; Now it&#039;s been several days without a patch, and so far I don&#039;t miss it.&nbsp; I&#039;m not sure if there&#039;s a connection with that octopus saying &quot;adieu&quot;, but I can&#039;t entirely rule it out given the timing.</p></blockquote></div><p>How odd!!! We might be on to something here with the squiddy! It just that originally I thought about giving a little bit of history about myself but later thought against it so as to stay focused on my main queston. It is just that about half a year ago when I first started doing astral projections and other related things, I finally said good-bye to my fundamentalist Christian views and it was so liberating! I finally clearly saw what religion was all about - just a huge parasitic organism that propagated by infecting peoples&#039; minds and feeding off of their energy, minds, and bodies. I spent about 15 years as a devout Christian and I can authoritatively tell you that there is absolutely nothing behind it but manipulation and enslavement. </p><p>Anyway, after saying good-bye to religion and starting astral projecting, I sort of opened a door to a whole new world out there. There are things happening to me all the time. At times I feel like I have been awakened after a long sleep or hypnosis. I begin reading thoughts, get messages in my dreams, meet entities during astral travels, and have major happenings with my third eye. And all that within a span of just half a year! And all of that started with a vision of the mechanical squiddy! By the way, I don&#039;t know where exactly your squid, kinsei, had its succion cups, but mine had something at the very ends of its tentacles - so that they looked like they (the tentacles) were sharply cut off at the ends. </p><p>I am amazed at your description of the exchage between the squiddy and your higher self, kinsei. I felt the same thing during the vision - it became dead quiet and the telepathic message said something to the effect of: This is (or used to be) part of your self. Or This was your mind (or in your mind). And after that vision everything is just completely new and fascinating in my life - like I have finally been unplugged from some huge hypnotic machine that prevented me from reaching new levels.</p><p>Indeed, I am starting to see some objective reality behind these squiddy visions.</p>]]></content>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Now that I remember I had only one encounter with the squid/octopus but it was a dream. I woke up laughing though. I was in a line of people. We were tossing them at each other and laughing. They were dead. And we were just having so much fun throwing these huge alien like creatures at each other.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-04-30T19:13:24Z</updated>
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