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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Tom Paine wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>According to Dr. William Deagle in his videos, this Codex Aliementaria<br />was devised by one of the Nazi doctors while he was in prison in<br />the US in the 1960&#039;s.&nbsp; Good Nazi, eh?</p></blockquote></div><p>Fritz Ter Meer.<br />See Bayer, 1 of 3 from IG Farben.</p><p>Arbeit mach frei.</p>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>thanx to WHO&amp;WTO&amp;EU we have the same issue here (Cro). I&#039;m just doing researching part to grasp the problem and spread the info about the &quot;harmonization&quot;. Seems as an agenda which is long planned and developed far away from breaking news. Important one, though...</p>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Today is the day. Just got this email from Freedom To Fascism producer Aaron Russo:</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>This just in from Aaron Russo himself!</p><p>Today, April 30th, The House will address an expired Bill that mandates all vitamins, mineralS, AND health supplements as government controlled substances!!!</p><p>The Docket Number is 2006D-0480.</p><p>Call your congressmen NOW !!!</p><p>Demand that they LEAVE YOUR HEALTH ALONE!!!</p><p>You can reach them at:</p><p>800-828-0498</p><p>...or..</p><p>800-459-1887</p><p>...or...</p><p>800-614-2803.</p></blockquote></div><p>Tim</p>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Okay, here&#039;s the comment I sent them:</p><p>This attempt to regulate Vitamins, Minerals, Juices, Herbs and other (CAM) health-<br />enhancing products is nothing short of tyranny.&nbsp; If this is enacted, then the <br />pharmaceutical companies and the AMA will have free reign to use their drugs<br />and treatments which are mostly unaffordable and don&#039;t work in the first place,<br />since the Medical Establishment and the Pharmaceutical corporations are not <br />interested in healing people, only in treating them with ineffective or toxic drugs<br />which don&#039;t cure.&nbsp; This, if enacted will criminalize anyone who wishes to use<br />natural substances and modalities to cure themselves or improve their health.<br />And that is unacceptable.&nbsp; And it will prove that the FDA is nothing but a tool<br />for the Big Pharma companies and the AMA.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 01:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=176038">http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi … ead=176038</a></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>MORE ON THE SPOOK-PSYOP CODEX VITAMIN BAN SCAM</p><p>Posted By: Il_Bagattel<br />Date: Monday, 23 April 2007, 3:54 p.m.</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; I posted the original bogus CODEX appeal here at STA, since then I have done a bit of research on the Stubblebine/Laibow spooks. It is not pretty. What is even worse; they even suckered in Rense, Mike Adams and lots of other high profile internet personalities. The scam spread like wildfire on the net.</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE BEFORE BUYING INTO EVERY &quot;GOOD CAUSE&quot; THAT COMES ALONG!</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; Here is the REAL story:</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:45 PM<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; Subject: NSF = A New World Order &quot;INSURANCE POLICY&quot;??? How To Quell The Latest &quot;Rima Eruption&quot;</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; NSF&#039;s General Stubblebine....Codex Being Ushered in via Regional Harmonization..... John Hammell of IAHF Exposing NSF Spin</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; IAHF List:</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; On April 4th, I sent this alert out to the IAHF list telling you about Jerome Corsi&#039;s interview with me in which I discussed the immense threat posed to our access to dietary supplements by the FDA&#039;s Trilateral Cooperation Charter With Canada/ Mexico:WND: Food Supplements Targetted By Trilateral Deal----IAHF&#039;s Mssg Spreading Rapidly---- Momentum Keeps Building!! <a href="http://www.ymlp.com/pubarchive_show_message.php?jham+575">http://www.ymlp.com/pubarchive_show_mes … p?jham+575</a></p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; Due to Corsi&#039;s article on April 4th, IAHF had the largest single day surge of signings (430) on our petition calling for Congressional oversight on FDA&#039;s Trilateral Cooperation Charter.</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; The very next day (April 5th) only 75 people signed our petition. What curtailed the flow of people to our petition?</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; On April 5th, the (so called) Natural Solutions Foundation generated a spin piece intended to scare the hell out of the vitamin consuming public and to con huge numbers of people to go into a frenzy of forwarding their (phony) alert about an FDA Guidance Document. Here is the spin NSF puts on their website which was so successful in distracting people from the REAL threat of the FDA Trilateral Cooperation Charter, by focusing peoples attention on a non existent threat:</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="http://www.democracyinaction.org/dia/organizationsORG/healthfreedomusa/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=7185">http://www.democracyinaction.org/dia/or … n_KEY=7185</a> NSF SPIN:<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &quot;The FDA is using legal maneuvering to end your access to natural health products (like vitamins, minerals and herbs) and natural health therapies of all sorts. Again. This time, their ploy is to declare the therapies are &quot;Medicine&quot; so any non-physician who uses them will be practicing medicine without a license. Since these practices are &quot;Medicine&quot;, any products used would be untested drugs and therefore forbidden.&quot;<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; FDA Guidance Documents can&#039;t change existing law, and this one is no exception. It can&#039;t change the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act. What NSF has done is they have not accurately reported what is in this Guidance document, nor have they accurately reported what an FDA Guidance document is for. The FDA&#039;s Federal Register Notice about this can be found here <a href="http://www.fda.gov/OHRMS/DOCKETS/98fr/E7-3259.htm">http://www.fda.gov/OHRMS/DOCKETS/98fr/E7-3259.htm</a> and the Guidance Document is found here:<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:QAYGvAYz6ycJ:www.fda.gov/OHRMS/DOCKETS/98fr/06d-0480-gld0001.pdf+%60%60Complementary+and+Alternative+Medicine+Products+and+Their&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=1&amp;gl=ca">http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:QA … &amp;gl=ca</a><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; In the Guidance document, the FDA doesn&#039;t say anything new about the regulation of dietary supplements that we haven&#039;t known since passage of the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994. They plainly state that regulation of a dietary supplement would depend on labeling and intended use- DSHEA has never allowed medicinal claims to be made on any product, and this Guidance document doesn&#039;t change existing law- contrary to what NSF would have you believe- the sky is NOT falling! On May 1, you&#039;ll be able to go into any health food store in America and buy whatever products you&#039;re buying now (!!)</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; NSF&#039;s purpose, and timing on this NONSENSE appears to have been to DISTRACT people from the VERY REAL threat of the FDA&#039;s Trilateral Cooperation Charter wherein the FDA is illegally harmonizing our food and drug regulations with Canada and Mexico, and under which FDA has adopted the overly broad Canadian definition of &quot;Health Fraud&quot; (where even WATER becomes a &quot;Drug&quot;), and under which the FDA has already engaged in at least 730 compliance actions against dietary supplement manufacturers manufacturing weight loss products (as if a North American Union were already in existence despite the complete absence of any implementing legislation that would make their actions legal.)</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; Thus, NSF appears to be attempting to DELIBERATELY DISTRACT dietary supplement consumers from a REAL threat, by trying to distract us using the most scurrulous form of SPIN in an effort to try to DEPICT an ordinary FDA Guidance Document as a presumed &quot;Threat&quot; when it in FACT is NOT!!</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; WHY WOULD NSF DO THIS???</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; If you were among the world&#039;s ruling elite, and you wanted to impose a North American Union on the American people by deconstructing our country, you would want to try to NEUTRALIZE any person or group that was making the connection between the Codex vitamin issue and regional harmonization because you would be afraid that such a person or group MIGHT SUCCEED in arousing the SLEEPING GIANT- the Millions of Americans who generated the largest flood of letters to congress in this HISTORY of Congress on ANY issue during the campaign to pass the Dietary Supplement Health &amp; Education Act of 1994 (DSHEA), to get them to pressure congress to STOP the North American Union!</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; You would be afraid that such a person or group MIGHT be able to overcome the spin coming from the pharma dominated vitamin trade associations on the Codex issue <a href="http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3112930.htm">http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3112930.htm</a> so as to get them calling the Oversight &amp; Investigations Subcommittee in large enough numbers that they&#039;d HAVE to hold oversight hearings on not only the FDA&#039;s Trilateral Cooperation Charter, but ALSO on the North American Union itself!</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; You would therefor want to have an INSURANCE POLICY in place in the form of a controlled opposition group. The PURPOSE of such a group would be to attempt to APPEAR as the most knowledgable organization on the Codex issue- ie- &quot;the group to follow&quot;, but the group would slickly generate a constant stream of spin, and disinformation in order to try to STEER the grass roots into a combination of DEAD ENDS and DISTRACTIONS so as to HIJACK the health freedom movement- to KEEP the movement from successfully defending America&#039;s sovereignty knowing that Codex is being ushered in via Regional Harmonization.</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; See <a href="http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3312735.htm">http://www.nocodexgenocide.com/page/page/3312735.htm</a> and <a href="http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/Events/codex-moderngeneral.html">http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_ … neral.html</a> to get a deeper understanding of this phenomena as it pertains to the (so called) &quot;Natural Solutions Foundation&quot;.</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; Can you think of a better couple to perpetuate this disinformation than a retired Army Major General, the Director of Army Intelligence whose reports went directly to the CIA and to the White House and his psychiatrist wife? These people have been very highly trained in the use of such manipulation techniques as the Delphi Technique, the Semantic Differential, and many others. As a specialist in the area of Military Intelligence, Stubblebine was professionally trained in the art of deception.</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; Ever since NSF has entered our movement, they&#039;ve been generating spin against the message of IAHF and Allied groups. When CAFTA was moving through Congress we recognized that it would rope us more into Codex due to the SPS (Sanitary Phytosanitary Measures) language it contains which is found identically in NAFTA, WTO, and CODEX. We recognized that CAFTA would result in an expansion of the disastrous policies of NAFTA to further undermine our National Sovereignty so IAHF and Allied Groups launched a campaign to try to kill it.</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; We were COUNTERED however by no less than SEVEN spin pieces from Rima Laibow of NSF which claimed that CAFTA had &quot;no connection&quot; to Codex, and they claimed that an in fact NON EXISTENT &quot;Miracle&quot; had occurred at a Codex meeting they&#039;d just attended (allegedly due to their actions.)</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; This spin appears to have been concocted in order to generate COGNITIVE DISSONANCE so that people would hear OUR message, then THEIR conflicting message, and in the CONFUSION, they&#039;d then sit on their HANDS and not call Congress in opposition to CAFTA. (Paul Taylor&#039;s ably dispelled any notion that a &quot;Miracle&quot; had occurred at Codex here: <a href="http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_FOUNDATION/Events/codex-moderngeneral.html">http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/THE_ … neral.html</a></p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; IS A VARIATION ON THIS SAME THEME BEING PLAYED OUT AGAIN?</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; It sure seems that way to me. Since the latest &quot;Rima Eruption&quot; numerous misguided people and publications including Mike Adams of News Target, Jeff Rense, the Price Pottenger Foundation, Jenny Thompson of Health Sciences Institute, Joyce Riley of the Power Hour Radio Show, and Ed Griffin of Freedom Force International made the mistake of FORWARDING her spin, wholly without grasping what is going on.</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; Suddenly, this &quot;Chicken Little&quot; scenario started taking on a LIFE OF ITS OWN in cyberspace. The &quot;Blogosphere&quot; was buzzing with the phony &quot;News&quot;, and the number of signatures on the Petition calling for Congressional Oversight on the Trilateral Coopertion Charter fell off- never again have we had another day like April 4th when the World Net Daily article appeared on the web because our GENUINE news had been pushed aside by this carefully conducted SPIN campaign.</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; WHAT YOU CAN DO TO QUELL THE RIMA ERUPTION, STOP CODEX, &amp; DEFEND AMERICA/CANADA FROM DESTRUCTION</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; It is ESSENTIAL that you educate everyone you know to the following KEY FACTS so that they&#039;ll understand whats going on:</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; 1. The European Union was originally planned by the Nazi High Command in the waning hours of WW2 as a long range means by which to achieve through POLITICAL means what Germany was UNABLE to attain militarily. The EU is a fascist dictatorship in which individual rights have been CRUSHED. The NAU is being patterned after it: [Watch: The Real Face of the European Union: <a href="http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/videos/EuropeanUnion.html">http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.co … Union.html</a></p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; 2. The same ruling elite factions that put Hitler into office were the architects of the EU, and these SAME people are working very hard to force a North American Union patterned after the EU on Canada, the USA and Mexico. [Watch: National Problematique- The North American Nightmare <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tg8suvwS3o&amp;mode=related&amp;search=">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tg8suvw … mp;search=</a></p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; 3. Read: Treason Abounds Gov&#039;t Cabal Plots North American Union <a href="http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/TreasonAbounds.html">http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.co … ounds.html</a></p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; NOW YOU MUST ACT!!! HERES WHAT TO DO:</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; In 1994 the American people flooded Congress with more calls, faxes and personal visits than has ever occurred before or sense in the HISTORY of Congress during the drive to pass DSHEA. This occurred in the face of an FDA rulemaking effort that threatened to DESTROY our access to dietary supplements, but we STOPPED IT!!</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; Just as we did that in &#039;94, TODAY we CAN stop the FDA&#039;s Trilateral Cooperation Charter with Canada and Mexico via which FDA is trying to bring in Codex by first harmonizing our food based dietary supplement regs with Canada&#039;s and Mexico&#039;s far HARSHER regulatory regimes by clamoring for OVERSIGHT on this issue as a PRELUDE to ALSO pushing for oversight hearings on all OTHER illegal acts being committed against our country by the Commerce Committee as well.</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; Direct EVERYONE YOU KNOW to this petition: <a href="http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/373269232#body">http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeacti … 69232#body</a></p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; And join me in CALLING the Oversight &amp; Investigations Subcommittee of the House Commerce Committee to push for oversight:</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; WHO TO CALL ABOUT THIS:</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; 1. Your own Senators and Congressmen (via Capital Switchboard at 202-225-31212. The House Oversight &amp; Investigations Subcommittee- see list below: Call via Capital Switchboard 202-225-3121 ask to be connected. <a href="http://energycommerce.house.gov/Subcommittees/ovin.shtml">http://energycommerce.house.gov/Subcomm … ovin.shtml</a><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; SUBCOMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND INVESTIGATIONS<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; (Ratio: 9-7)<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; Bart Stupak (MI), Chairman<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; Diana DeGette, CO Ed Whitfield, KY,<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; Ranking Member<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; Charlie Melancon, LA, Vice Chair Charlie Norwood, GA<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; Henry A. Waxman, CA Greg Walden, OR<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; Gene Green, TX Mike Ferguson, NJ<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; Mike Doyle, PA Tim Murphy, PA<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; Jan Schakowsky, IL Michael C. Burgess, TX<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; Jay Inslee, WA Joe Barton, TX (Ex Officio)<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; John D. Dingell (Ex Officio)<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; PHONE SCRIPT AGAINST FDA TRILATERAL COOPERATION CHARTER</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; “I support International Advocates for Health Freedom’s efforts to get oversight on the FDA’s Trilateral Cooperation Charter. The FDA is holding illegal meetings with regulatory counterparts in Canada and Mexico via the Trilateral Cooperation Charter. Through this they are creating one harmonized set of food and drug regulations as if our country no longer existed, as if we were already part of a North American Union. A subset of TCC is called the Mexico, US, Canada Health Fraud Working Group- (MUCH).</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; This group has issued over 730 warning letters to dietary supplement manufacturers who manufacture weight loss products in all 3 nations. This is a clear effort by the FDA to subvert existing US law- the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994. Its part of a planned effort to DECONSTRUCT our country and to force us into a planned North American Union.</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; I strongly request that Congress hold oversight hearings on this matter and that the FDA be stopped from what they are doing. Over 10,400 people have signed IAHF’s petition on this matter, and I am one of them. I am telling everyone I know about this. I also oppose the Department of Commerce’s equally illegal actions as they too are attempting to deconstruct our nation via the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America. These, along with Bush’s other illegal acts serve as ample grounds for impeachment.”</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; Your donation assists IAHF in this important work! Help us make the trips to DC that we’ll need to make in the coming year to oppose the FDA and the Neocon’s traitorous agenda to deconstruct our nation and to force us into a totalitarian North American Union patterned after the EU Dictatorship. Help us to assist Congressman Paul in his courageous efforts to get the truth out via National TV as he runs for President! The life you save could be your own! Before forwarding this email, please don&#039;t forget to delete the unsub link which accompanies each email at the bottom. Otherwise, someone you forward it to may delete you from the IAHF listUrge everyone you know to sign on to the IAHF list at <a href="http://www.iahf.com">http://www.iahf.com</a> If you forwarded the NSF spin piece, please forward THIS to COUNTER it!</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; PLEASE DONATE TO IAHF</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; IAHF 556 Boundary Bay Rd. Point Roberts WA 98281 USA</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; Or via Paypal at <a href="http://iahf.com/index1.html">http://iahf.com/index1.html</a></p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; For Health Freedom, John C. Hammell, President International Advocates for Health Freedom 556 Boundary Bay Road Point Roberts, WA 98281-8702 USA <a href="http://www.iahf.com">http://www.iahf.com</a> jham@iahf.com 800-333-2553 N.America 360-945-0352 World</p></blockquote></div>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>limukala wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Wait a minute, that&#039;s not just air, that air is full of oxygen, which I&#039;m sure you know is patented by Monsanto.&nbsp; Do you have a license for that?</p></blockquote></div><p>Well, the English did tax the Irish people&#039;s air that&#039;s why the windows are so small in the older buildings there. </p><p><img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/neutral.png" width="15" height="15" alt="neutral" /></p>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Sample from link ... <a href="http://educate-yourself.org/fc/drugstory.shtml">http://educate-yourself.org/fc/drugstory.shtml</a></p><p>&quot;As Bealle pointed out, a business which makes 6% on its invested capital is considered a sound money maker. <strong>Sterling Drug, Inc.,</strong> the main cog and largest holding company in the <strong>Rockefeller Drug Empire and its 68 subsidiaries</strong>, showed operating profits in 1961 of $23,463,719 after taxes, on net assets of $43,108,106 - <strong>a 54% profit.</strong> Squibb, another Rockefeller controlled company, in 1945 made <strong>not 6% but 576%</strong> on the actual value of its property.&quot;</p>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Wait a minute, that&#039;s not just air, that air is full of oxygen, which I&#039;m sure you know is patented by Monsanto.&nbsp; Do you have a license for that?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 04:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hey that air your breathing is a medication you need to survive where is your prescription? </p><p><img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/roll.png" width="15" height="15" alt="roll" /></p>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>According to Dr. William Deagle in his videos, this Codex Aliementaria<br />was devised by one of the Nazi doctors while he was in prison in<br />the US in the 1960&#039;s.&nbsp; Good Nazi, eh?<br />This is obviously being pushed by Big Pharma and Big Medicine, who<br />have absolutely no interest in health, only collecting money for<br />treatments that don&#039;t work and cost an arm and a leg, (and your<br />life!).<br />Pure George Orwell&#039;s 1984 control agenda.</p>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_4803.cfm">http://www.organicconsumers.org/article … e_4803.cfm</a></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Alert: FDA Attempting to Regulate Supplements, Herbs and Juices as &quot;Drugs&quot;</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Health freedom action alert: FDA attempting to regulate supplements, herbs and juices as &quot;drugs&quot;<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; By Mike Adams<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; NewsTarget/Truth Publishing, April 11, 2007<br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <a href="http://www.newstarget.com/z021789.html">Straight to the Source</a></p><p>When it comes to health freedom, this is the FDA&#039;s end game. A new FDA &quot;guidance&quot; document, published on the FDA&#039;s website, reveals plans to reclassify virtually all vitamins, supplements, herbs and even vegetable juices as FDA-regulated drugs. Massage oils and massage rocks will be classified as &quot;medical devices&quot; and require FDA approval. The document is called Docket No. 2006D-0480. Draft Guidance for Industry on Complementary and Alternative Medicine Products and Their Regulation by the Food and Drug Administration.</p><p>The FDA is accepting public comments on the docket until April 30th. They tried to sneak this under the radar, but word got out and now the natural health community is up in arms over this rule. If you wish to protect your access to nutritional supplements, herbs, essential oils, homeopathic medicine or any other &quot;complementary&quot; or &quot;alternative&quot; modality, it is crucial that you take action to post your comments with the FDA right now and write your representatives in Washington to put a stop to this outrageous effort to destroy natural medicine. (And be sure to really write them. Just sending an email has virtually no impact compared to writing a physical letter in your own words.)</p><p><a href="http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/oc/dockets/comments/COMMENTSMain.CFM?EC_DOCUMENT_ID=1451&amp;SUBTYP=CONTINUE&amp;CID=&amp;AGENCY=FDA">Click here</a> for the direct link to the FDA&#039;s comment posting page for this docket.</p><p>This move by the FDA is designed to once and for all destroy the 1994 DSHEA law that has made supplements &quot;legal&quot; while eliminating nutritional supplements and natural medicine from the United States, ensuring monopoly profits and control by drug companies and the FDA. It is the latest action item by the FDA / Big Pharma conspiracy that will not stop until health freedom has been abolished, drug companies rule the nation, and every citizen is diagnosed with a fictitious disease and drugged up on monopoly-priced pharmaceuticals.</p><p>FDA &quot;experts&quot; will decide what&#039;s a drug or medical device Under these proposed guidelines, FDA &quot;experts&quot; (the same corrupt officials who reapproved Vioxx after it killed over 50,000 Americans) will decide whether herbs, supplements, vitamins or simple devices like massage stones are to be regulated as drugs and medical devices. If the FDA experts, in their infinite wisdom, decide that these things are to be reclassified, they will essentially be outlawed, stripped from the shelves, and regulated out of existence. Anyone who dares to manufacture, promote or sell such products may be branded a criminal and rounded up by armed FDA agents who have a well established history of suppressing natural medicine.</p><p>I&#039;ve documented much of the criminal history of the FDA in my recent book, Natural Health Solutions and the Conspiracy to Keep You From Knowing About Them, which suddenly seems even more relevant today than when I wrote it. In that book, I documented the FDA ordered book burnings, the raids on vitamin shops, the kidnapping of natural health practitioners, the threats, intimidation and oppression tactics that have been used to suppress natural medicine for nearly a hundred years now. And now, with this CAM Products Regulation effort, the FDA is about to deal a final, fatal blow to the alternative medicine industry, outlawing nutritional supplements, functional foods, homeopathy and natural therapies all at once.</p><p>This is not a drill. It really is time to be alarmed. Nothing else I&#039;ve written about this year is as important as this sinister plot to destroy natural medicine and force the American population to resort to dangerous prescription medications sold at monopoly prices under a system of medical tyranny.</p><p>Your access to vitamins, supplements, herbs, and even energy medicine modalities is now directly threatened, and you have until April 30 to make your voice heard.</p><p>Action items</p><p>First, read the document yourself. <a href="http://www.fda.gov/OHRMS/DOCKETS/98fr/06d-0480-gld0001.pdf">Click here for the PDF version.</a></p><p>Take special care to notice the following text, taken directly from the FDA&#039;s own document: (italicized text is from the FDA, with my own translation following)</p><p>&quot;...a product used in a CAM therapy or practice may be subject to regulation as a biological product, cosmetic, drug, device, or food (including food additives and dietary supplements) under the act or the PHS Act. Second, neither the act nor the PHS Act exempts CAM products from regulation.&quot;</p><p>Translation: Anything used in any system of medicine may now be regulated as a drug or medical device by the FDA. This includes a biofeedback machine, acupuncture needles, a cup of herbal tea, massage oil, a glass of vegetable juice or even a bottle of water.</p><p>&quot;...if a person decides to produce and sell raw vegetable juice for use in juice therapy to promote optimal health... [and] if the juice therapy is intended for use as part of a disease treatment regimen instead of for the general wellness, the vegetable juice would also be subject to regulation as a drug under the Act.&quot;</p><p>Translation: Raw vegetable juice will be regulated as a drug and must be FDA approved as a drug if it has any health effect whatsoever. Handing a cup of raw vegetable juice to someone and telling them it&#039;s good for the detoxification of their liver will get you arrested for practicing medicine without a license and promoting an &quot;unapproved drug.&quot;</p><p>...&quot;biologically based practices&quot; includes, but is not limited to, botanicals, animal-derived extracts, vitamins, minerals, fatty acids, amino acids, proteins, prebiotics and probiotics: whole diets, and &quot;functional foods&quot;. ...a botanical product intended for use in treating a disease would generally be regulated as a drug.&quot; ...&quot;functional foods&quot; may be subject to FDA regulation as foods, dietary supplements, or drugs under the Act.</p><p>Translation: All foods, supplements, superfoods and functional foods may be reclassified as drugs by the FDA, then regulated off the market.</p><p>If... the manipulative and body-based practices involve the use of equipment (such as massage devices) or the application of a product (such as a lotion, cream, or oil) to the skin or other parts of the body, those products may be subject to regulation under the Act.&quot;</p><p>Translation: Massage oils and creams will be regulated as &quot;drugs&quot; and acupuncture needles as &quot;medical devices.&quot; Taking this absurdity one step further, massage therapists who use their fingers to touch patients may have their fingers regulated as &quot;medical devices&quot; and be accused of practicing medicine for merely touching patients.</p><p>Things that will be regulated out of existence It is very clear that the FDA is intending to regulate and ultimately destroy the entire CAM industry (Complementary and Alternative Medicine). Based on the explanations in the FDA&#039;s own document, the following things are likely to occur:</p><p>&nbsp; * All vitamins, nutritional supplements and functional foods will be stripped of their structure &amp; function claims, reducing them to empty labels where virtually nothing at all is allowed to be stated.</p><p> * Vegetable juice will be regulated as a drug. Raw juice retreats will be raided or shut down.</p><p> * Growing and selling common garden herbs will get you arrested as a drug dealer.</p><p> * Massage oils and handheld massagers will be regulated as &quot;medical devices.&quot;&nbsp; </p><p>* Yoga props, pilates machines and weight machines will be regulated as &quot;medical devices&quot; and require FDA approval before being sold or used.</p><p> * Raw sprouts and other anti-cancer foods will be regulated as drugs.</p><p> * Bottled water that &quot;treats&quot; dehydration will be regulated as a drug.</p><p> * Massage therapists who use hot rocks as part of their therapy will have the ROCKS regulated as medical devices! (It&#039;s true. The FDA will actually look at a pile of rocks and declare, &quot;Those are medical devices!&quot;)</p><p> * Functional foods, supplements, vitamins and homeopathic remedies will disappear from store shelves, pending FDA &quot;review.&quot; (The only things remaining will be processed junk foods and pharmaceuticals, which is exactly what Big Business wants.)</p><p> * Therapeutic tea products, such as green tea, will be outlawed and confiscated.</p><p> * Vitamin store owners will be arrested and prosecuted for &quot;practicing medicine without a license.&quot;</p><p> * Citizens owning personal inventories of &quot;unapproved drugs&quot; (vitamins and herbs) may have their homes raided at gunpoint and their inventories confiscated by armed law enforcement agents.</p><p> * The importation of herbs and functional foods from all countries may be banned.</p><p> Keep in mind that the FDA is the same agency that:</p><p>&nbsp; * Wants to label irradiated foods as &quot;pasteurized.&quot;</p><p> * Voted to put the deadly drug Vioxx back on the market after tens of thousands of deaths, even after its own manufacurer pulled it from pharmacies.</p><p> * Raided a church at gunpoint, confiscating biofeedback machines and charging that they were &quot;practicing medicine&quot; by counseling church members on issues like depression.</p><p> * Openly allows corrupt, &quot;on the take&quot; experts to vote on new drug approvals, even when those experts are taking money from the same companies impacted by their votes.</p><p> * Refuses to legalize stevia, the safe, natural herbal sweetener that&#039;s used virtually everywhere else in the world. The agenda? Protect the profits of aspartame and other chemical sweeteners.</p><p> * Openly allows the mass poisoning of the public with cancer-causing food additives such as sodium nitrite.</p><p> * Refuses to enforce its own laws regarding unsafe chemical toxins in personal care products, allowing perfume and lotion companies to continue poisoning the public with cancer-causing chemicals that don&#039;t even have to be listed on the label, nor proven safe.</p><p> * Ordered the destruction of recipe books that mentioned stevia. (A campaign to keep the public ignorant of the herb.)</p><p> * Does everything in its power to protect drug company profits, including discrediting herbs, supplements and alternative medicine.</p><p> Does anyone honestly believe that this criminal organization has any capacity whatsoever to act in the public interest? Even many Senators are fed up with the FDA&#039;s unprecedented level of corruption and criminal behavior.</p><p>Action items, continued... </p><p>Read Jon Barron&#039;s comments on this rule at the <a href="http://www.jonbarron.org/blog_published/2007/04/fda_labeling_guidelines.html#more">JonBarron.org website</a></p><p>Next, <a href="http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/oc/dockets/comments/COMMENTSMain.CFM?EC_DOCUMENT_ID=1451&amp;SUBTYP=CONTINUE&amp;CID=&amp;AGENCY=FDA">lodge your complaint</a> against the FDA by commenting on this docket through the FDA&#039;s docket comment form.</p><p>And finally, write your Senator or Congressperson about this issue and let them know, in blatant language, that you will not stand by and allow the criminals running medicine today to take away your access to vitamins, supplements, herbs and homeopathic medicine. Write the letter in your own words, even if it&#039;s just two sentences. Individual letters have a hundred times the impact of form letters.</p><p>Medical Wasteland USA</p><p>Everything is at stake here. If the FDA gets its way, the United States will become a medical wasteland, dominated by corporate drug company interests, where the naturopaths are imprisoned and their products destroyed. Supplements and herbs will become contraband, and gardeners who grow their own medicinal herbs may be raided and arrested by DEA agents wielding assault rifles. Simply selling dried broccoli sprouts as being &quot;good anti-cancer foods&quot; may land you in prison, and running a vitamin shop could result in you being arrested for &quot;practicing medicine.&quot;</p><p>Imagine a nation where Whole Foods stores are stripped of all herbs and supplements, where vitamin shops are emptied and abandoned, where books that promote herbs are bulldozed into large piles and burned, where natural healers are rounded up and &quot;disappeared&quot; into incarceration centers. This is the future that will become reality if the FDA has its way. The plan has been explained to us in plain language. Any agency that openly states &quot;vegetable juice will be regulated as a drug&quot; has quite simply lost its marbles. We&#039;re are now clearly being regulated by clinically insane bureaucrats.</p><p>With this desperate proposal by the FDA -- clearly designed as a last-ditch effort to save the failing conventional medical industry from a massive public shift towards natural medicine -- the war against health freedom has reached our shores, and the FDA is plotting a 9/11-style attack to bring down the towers of health freedom in one swift motion.</p><p>This is the same agency that currently represents the greatest threat to the health and safety of the American people, far outweighing the threat of real terrorism. This agency, we have seen, will do ANYTHING to protect the profits and power of drug companies. It will lie, steal, accept bribes, hide scientific evidence, distort statistics, commit scientific fraud, break federal laws, threaten its own drug safety scientists, conspire with drug company executives, intimidate American citizens and use terror-style tactics to achieve its goals of complete domination over foods, drugs and health.</p><p>Why do Americans tolerate terrorism in their own government?</p><p>It is time we put a stop to this home-grown tyranny. We have fought too hard for freedom in the United States to allow us all to be steamrolled by a criminal front group covertly working for Big Pharma. The FDA has declared war on natural medicine and the American people, and we will lose our family members, children, brothers and sisters as casualties of this war if we don&#039;t stand up now and demand radical changes. It&#039;s time to stop this terrorist organization from destroying the lives of yet more U.S. citizens.</p><p>Make your voice heard now, or forever surrender your access to supplements, herbs, superfoods and functional foods. By the time the FDA is done with this country, we&#039;ll all be eating medication for breakfast, lunch and dinner.</p><p>Action reminders:</p><p>1. Lodge a complaint with the FDA by clicking here. MAKE SURE you include the docket number 2006D-0480. But don&#039;t trust this to be enough. The FDA will probably simply delete half the complaints it receives, so don&#039;t trust your complaint to actually count. It&#039;s important to continue...</p><p>2. Send a strongly-worded letter to your representatives in Washington. Be sure to cite Docket No. 2006D-0480. Draft Guidance for Industry on Complementary and Alternative Medicine Products and Their Regulation by the Food and Drug Administration. Tell them you support open access to vitamins, herbs, and supplements, and you do not want CAM to be regulated by the FDA.</p><p>3. Send this story to everyone you know. Spread the word. Raise the alarm. With enough public support, the FDA will be forced to back off this insane proposal.</p><p>And stay tuned to NewsTarget for more news, analysis and action alerts on health freedom. Even though we&#039;re under constant attack by criminal organizations trying to disrupt our servers and take us off line, we&#039;re still here, beating the drum for health freedom, and hoping that we have enough sane-minded Americans remaining to save this country from its government.</p><p>Actual FDA quote is gobbledygook</p><p>Here&#039;s an actual FDA statement from the CAM Guidance report:</p><p>For example, naturopathic cranberry tablets might be labeled for use to maintain the health of the urinary tract. In this example, the cranberry tablets generally would be regulated as &quot;dietary supplements&quot; ...if they were labeled for use to &quot;maintain the health of the urinary tract&quot; rather than &quot;prevent urinary tract infections.&quot; The cranberry tablets would be regulated as &quot;drugs&quot; ...if they were labeled for use to &quot;treat urinary tract infections&quot; even if they were labeled as dietary supplements.</p><p>Additional phone numbers as listed in the FDA document</p><p>Sheryl Lard-Whiteford at 301-827-0379<br />Daniel Nguyen at 301-827-8971<br />Ted Stevens at 301-594-1184<br />Wayne Amchin at 301-827-6739</p></blockquote></div><p>They swear this isn&#039;t a joke <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /> The original article is the top most link before the long quote (just in case I messed something up in the copy/paste job)</p>]]></description>
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