Yeah, we hear about Charlie Sheen's "view" on 9/11, but nothing ever happens or gets done about it. And really, what more is there to discuss about 9/11? Personally I too have had enough, there isn't much we can DO about it, it was a terrorist attack! (just by different people)
ok i'm done now... 
I don't think telling people they are wrong has ever really worked. You have to talk to people as long as they will lend an ear. Being subtle seems to work, seeing how far you can take a discussion before you lose the interest of your listener.
]]>And, not EVERY person in the command chain is knowingly a part of the conspiracy. This part flies over the heads of most people. Just like the Pilots who fly the "chem-trail planes" think it's helping Global Warming!
When you work for the government, you can be told anything, and I guess most take it at face value...
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There are too many questions not to be skeptical of the official story
I did a search on this site for 9/11 and didnt find one single topic.
seeing as how we are told that this event is the distinct causal event of all the new wars begun this century there needs to be more public discussion on this issue!
3000 people die and they spend 15 mil on the 911 ommission but they spend 65 mil to investigate clinton's lies.
that is pure rubbish!
How can we as patriots allow this to happen!
"Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established, should not be changed for light and transient causes; and, accordingly, all experience [has] shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce [the people] under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.""Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God."
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Here is a well done video discussing only some of the most powerful evidence concerning 911. This doesnt even go into the mystery of the pentagon attack and the lack of hard physical evidence of flight 77 crashing there!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...90071483512003
watch comrades, I urge you to seek questions! not answers! If you seek questions you will find the true answers.
We must awaken our great nation from this hideous slumber to the unimaginable deviance of the forces in true control of our civilization.
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Yawn. Day late and a dollar short. This was already dredged up ad nauseam here. Do a search.
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yo like i said in the post man, i did a search.....
i typed in 911 conspiracy and got nothing:
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/searc...archid=4496342
and i typed in 911 and amazingly again, NOTHING!!!
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/searc...archid=4496335
is there something wrong with the search function or what!
I think this is all so incredibly important and i am trying to put together some type of database to at least convince my family what we are up against here.
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How can we as patriots allow this to happen!
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Because we use what we call brains and most quickly realize that odds that at least one of the thousands of people needed to pull off something off on this level would surely come out and spill the beans.
I for one trust that someone in the government whether far left or far right would do anything for this to not stuff to not happen, and many would have to be in on it.
Sorry to burst your bubble but you will have to go after the admin on a different front, this one is complete rubbish.
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Don't know what's up with the search function, apparently the Politics forum isn't indexed.
Anyhoo, this whole topic was driven into the ground a long time ago. Long story short, the whole Loose Change movie and the "questions" raised were thoroughly debunked by Popular Mechanics and other outlets.
But to the "true believers", they explain that away by accusing Popular Mechanics and others of being puppets of the big conspiracy. Whatever. Most people will believe whatever they're inclined to believe, and some can't resist the allure of a good conspiracy theory. If you are inclined to believe some stuff posted on the internet, I'd suggest it is you who is the puppet.
Anyway, I'm sure you'll still find a couple "true believer" holdouts you can shoot the breeze with on this. Me, I find it completely without merit and old. Buh bye.
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Don't know what's up with the search function, apparently the Politics forum isn't indexed.
Anyhoo, this whole topic was driven into the ground a long time ago. Long story short, the whole Loose Change movie and the "questions" raised were thoroughly debunked by Popular Mechanics and other outlets.
But to the "true believers", they explain that away by accusing Popular Mechanics and others of being puppets of the big conspiracy. Whatever. Most people will believe whatever they're inclined to believe, and some can't resist the allure of a good conspiracy theory. If you are inclined to believe some stuff posted on the internet, I'd suggest it is you who is the puppet.
Anyway, I'm sure you'll still find a couple "true believer" holdouts you can shoot the breeze with on this. Me, I find it completely without merit and old. Buh bye.
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Yeah i read the popular mechanics article and it is crap, sorry...
You can easily debunk the debunkers my friend, just lookie here!
http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pm/index.html#planes
What kind of stuff does PM report eh? ****ING Advanced WEAPONRY my man! such a place would be perfect for more disinfo...
if you agree with that type of targeted journalism you fear the truth. and yeah i know, it is pretty damn scary when you come to terms with it....
I for one try very hard to get corroboration, and all night i have been unsuccessful trying to corroborate evidence that there was a powerdown of wtc 2 the weekend before. I only have the one report. YOU SEE! I AM SEEKING QUESTIONS NOT ANSWERS! That is the only proper way to investigate. you need to corroborate!
I just told you of a weak point of the conspiracy because i am OBJECTIVE! NOT A SHEEPLE!!! whatever go watch the nba finals or go jack off and forget that you are being lied to...
Also i cant corroborate the story of the removal of bombsniffing dogs thursday before the attacks in the new york newsday. BE OBJECTIVE. FIND TRUTH IN LACK OF CONTRADICTION!!
NOW:
In a police investigation if a suspect is found to be lying his credibilty is shot and he is often convicted, or at least CHARGED.
Thus:
Why did condi say they had no idea that jets would be used like this...yet in MANY reports we have official evidence stating they had done wargames for this very thing...
WHY WOULD SHE LIE!!!!!!
because they are guilty, thats why.
WHY NOT RELEASE THE GAS STATION TAPE OUTSIDE THE PENTAGON!!!!
WHAT IS THERE TO HIDE!!!!
WHY NOT RELSEASE IT!!!!! seriously there are a lot of people who want to see it and are clammoring for it they only fan the flames of conspiracy by not releasing it! what the hell is going on here!
WTC 7!
THE PM magazine actually had HW BUSH Write for it a few times so i can easily chalk them up to disinfo in my objective mind, given the majority of MILITARY TOPICS you find on those pages...COME ON!!!!!
yea it seems like there would be alot of people in on it, i agree. But that is no PROOF!!! that is no reason to just go to sleep and ignore some ****ING SERIOUS QUESTIONS!!!
THE GOV MURDURED JFK. We know that now right? WHY? because for one he wanted to dissolve the evil federal reserve. And 2 he wanted to get rid of the cia. you think HW would have that?>?>> **** NO THEY KILLED HIM FOR IT! This is repeated in the past....
LOOK IN YOUR wallet....LOOK at a 20$ look at the man on it. His name is PRESIDENT ANDREW JACKSON. JACKSON was chomping at the bit desparately seeking reelection so he could get to the last year of that term, when the 20 year charter of the then central bank of the united states was due to expire. HE MADE IT, AND DISSOLVED THE BANK but only after failed attempt at assassination....the assassin stuck 2 barrels into his stomach and both misfired....
that was a miracle,
but the same forces that attempted to rule back then have gained strength and murdered LINCOLN (LOOK UP GREENBACKS AND LINCOLN AND YOU WILL KNOW WHY HE WAS SHOT) KENNEDY, And now, the PNAC is in full swing.
SHEEPLE you are if you turn a blind eye to these QUESTIONS I am raising!!!
WHY LIE CONDI?
WHY NOT GIVE US THE PENTAGON VID?>??
SILVERSTEIN MADE 7 BILLION in the WTC insurance payoff on that attack btw.....JUST TOO MANY QUESTIONS to tell me that you will write it off as impossible because too many people knew!
you think someone will speak out against this gov knowing what they know! that they are MURDERERS! HELL NO! they are scared and probably rich! You base ignoring the conspiracy claims on the fact that there would be too many people in on it, you assume that these people are not cowards and that they will fight for what is right, you let them do the work for you and because they say nothing you assume there is nothing.
It is this type of shameful ignorance that has put america in the position to become a new facism. PEOPLE DESERVE THE GOVERNMENT THEY GET.
I for one, am fully awake, and trying to find TRUTH! I will be objective and I will question question question every last mother****ing syllable that is uttered about 911. THERE IS TOO MUCH AT STAKE HERE.
12000 years since the last cataclysm just look at what happened 12000 years before that and before that.....THERE IS A CYCLE.
IT IS A TEST.
YOU ARE FAILING THE TEST,
YOU WILL REPEAT THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER UNTIL YOU ARE REALIZED.
WE NEED YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ok beam me back up now, scotty....
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Whatever you say, my man. Clearly you've already predisposed yourself to choosing sides. You've already chosen to dismiss Popular Mechanics because you can imagine they've got a stake in the fight. Whatever works for ya.
Here's all you need to know about the supposed conspiracy. To accept it is to believe that an administration that had only been in office for 9 months managed to pull off a pitch perfect execution of a conspiracy on an unprecedented scale, all without a single person coming forward or leaking info about it. And here's the kicker. This is the same administration that has had all manner of leaks and defections from within over the past 7 years, and most importantly, has thoroughly bungled two wars, but they somehow managed to execute the 9/11 mission perfectly. Yeah, okay. Pull my other leg and it plays jingle bells.
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So in your theory, someone snuck into the WTC building and planted explosives when NO ONE was looking.
That is so ridiculous, you and the Rosie O' Donnell conspiracy theorist are all drinking the same Cool-Aid!
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So in your theory, someone snuck into the WTC building and planted explosives when NO ONE was looking.
That is so ridiculous, you and the Rosie O' Donnell conspiracy theorist are all drinking the same Cool-Aid!
Yeah, I hear it's real easy to go into two of the tallest, busiest buildings in NYC, tear out the walls, plant explosives and miles and miles of det cord, and put it all back together without a single person noticing.
In a related note, I have some lovely swamp land I'm looking to sell. For all you conspiracy aficionados, it's the perfect place to get away from the mind reading satellites, and if you act now I'll throw in a lovely Versace tin foil hat, sure to impress the ladies. Call now, it's going fast!
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I think i thoroughly explained that i am objective. re read my post dammit i am you best friend. popular mechanics is part if the mainstream media epidemic we have here. they are connected via $$$ to the jesuits and the zionists.
ITS NOT AN ADMIN HERE MAN!!! IT is a dynasty that dates back THOUSANDS OF YEARS! I dont give a piss about bush or the admin. clinton and the feds back in 93 let them attempt the wtc attack they knew about that too!
Clinton attended the bilderburger meeting in 91 and guess what he was elected in 92. IT IS A HUGE pyramid of control. Look up the Rodham family and you will see their occult ties.....
IT is not a matter of managing to do this in 9 months, THE PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY (PNAC) made a report in the late 90s with wolfolwitz and cheney and crystal and other neocon puppets that you can download and read and find that "THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A PEARL HARBOR TYPE EVENT" to put the plan into action....
well here we are!
International bankers are mainly zionists and zionists and jesuits have all the control in the world, they finance both sides of all the wars of 20th century, it is their way, they are sick and wretched. the control structure has been in place for thousands of years. The fact is that there is truly good and evil.
that is the prime problem i think for a lot of people when they try to comprehend this whole wtc thing. they just dont see how such evil can occur! And i feel for that man, i do. I used to believe that. I remember believing that.
There are incredibly evil forces that exist in the universe. They have successfully cut us off from our higher selves through disinfo...look at the bible, the torah and the quaran they are all the truth but filled with lies in order to create disharmony and to keep us from attaining the higher self. There is no religion only the self. The self is precious precious and perfect.
The higher self is real it is why we are here! Do you really think this exists so you can wake up and worry about wether your car is cool or wether you have enough friends or money!
If you find the higher self you contact all the knowlege of humanity and the universe in your conscious mind, and then you instantly see the evil force at work..that is why they try to hide it from you......Look up solar church and you will begin to know it is pure evil here.
I for one believe that they are here so that we can first identify the duality, (the good and evil, light darkness whatever)
and then, break free and become the eternal spirit body through this hardship...
The sad thing is that humanity had it pretty rough about 12000-13000 years ago and everything was destroyed.. WE FAILED...
There is evidence that things are even bleaker this time around and it is indeed looking grim again for humanity on earth.
btw....you have no evidence other than some military journal or what! There were so many red herrings in that article i wanted to cry for all the people who read that and of course believe it since it is "popular"
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Yeah, I hear it's real easy to go into two of the tallest, busiest buildings in NYC, tear out the walls, plant explosives and miles and miles of det cord, and put it all back together without a single person noticing.
In a related note, I have some lovely swamp land I'm looking to sell. For all you conspiracy aficionados, it's the perfect place to get away from the mind reading satellites, and if you act now I'll throw in a lovely Versace tin foil hat, sure to impress the ladies. Call now, it's going fast!
Again you dismiss a claim because you think that someone would have known. This is not correct investigatory practice. Whoever saw anything suspicious could have been killed! What if they did have a powerdown of wtc as scott forbes statets?
why did new york newsday report that the bombsniffing dogs were removed on thursday before the attacks?
Why did WTC 7 collapse like a beautiful demo after there was no big fire or damage? just look at the video! it was a demo for certain!
Oh yeah and PM says that wtc7 had a 1/3 chunk ripped off the side and that is why it fell...they say nypd showed them the pic for their investigation but they are not allowed to release it! DO WE SERIOUSLY BELIEVE THAT ****IN RELEASE IT!!!that is what editor davin coburn said in an interview here is the link:
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?...60826165457842
Why no evidence of a plane at the pentagon? I think that the pentagon portion of the conspiracy is the easiest to shoot for if you want to prove this murdering. it was really shoddy work by the cia there was no 757 in any photo!
and where is the mother****ing videotape!!
answer me that oh content ye of your yang infatuations
BUT SERIOUSLY i think the fundamental impediment to coming to terms with the conspiracy is that people do not believe that evil exists.
or for that matter that there is a source being, the holyspirit or what say you.
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I think i thoroughly explained that i am objective.
LOL! Yes, you claim to be objective, yet that's a bald faced lie. Your own posts betray that, with the preponderance of caps shouting and exclamation marks everywhere. You're about as objective as my cat with a lizard.
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ITS NOT AN ADMIN HERE MAN!!! IT is a dynasty that dates back THOUSANDS OF YEARS! I dont give a shit about bush or the admin. clinton and the feds back in 93 let them attempt the wtc attack they knew about that too!
And you base this on what evidence, exactly? Did you work for the government and have first hand knowledge of this, or did you just read some crap on the interweb?
Holy shit, you're even further gone than I thought. I just need to know, where do the reverse vampires fit into all of this?
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International bankers are mainly zionists and zionists and jesuits have all the control in the world, as they have had for thousands of years. The truth is that there is truly good and evil.
that is the prime problem i think for a lot of people when they try to comprehend this whole wtc thing. they just dont see how such evil can occur! And i feel for that man, i do. I used to believe that. I remember believing that.
There are incredibly evil forces that exist in the universe. They have successfully cut us off from our higher selves through disinfo...look at the bible, the torah and the quaran they are all the truth but filled with lies in order to create disharmony and to keep us from attaining the higher self.
The higher self is real it is why we are here! Do you really think this exists so you can wake up and worry about wether your car is cool or wether you have enough friends or money!
If you find the higher self you contact all the knowlege of humanity and the universe in your conscious mind, and then you instantly see the evil force at work....and it is hard at work man....Look up church of the sun or anythiNG having to do with the black pope and it is pure evil here.
I for one believe that they are here so that we can first identify the duality, (the good and evil, light darkness whatever)
and then, break free and become the eternal spirit body through this hardship...
The sad thing is that humanity had it pretty rough about 12000-13000 years ago and everything was destroyed.. WE FAILED...
There is evidence that things are even bleaker this time around and it is indeed looking grim again for humanity on earth.
And with a rant like that, you just lost any last shred of objectivity you could have claimed to have had.
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btw....you have no evidence other than some military journal or what! There were so many red herrings in that article i wanted to cry for all the people who read that and of course believe it since it is "popular"
And you have no evidence either, just wild speculation and leaps in logic. And I want to laugh at all the people who blindly believe a bunch of speculation with no corroborating evidence whatsoever. Remember, the burden of proof isn't on PM, it's on YOUR people. Whatever. I know you're too far gone to change your mind. And I've already sized up the claims and counterclaims on both sides, made up my own mind, and determined the whole thing to be a farce.
You want to believe whatever you want, fine. I understand that for some people it's a religion, this believing in a global dynastic conspiracy. If it gives you a purpose in life or makes you feel some sort of structure to the world, fine. Just do us a favor and stop pushing that jive on the rest of us as if it's some sort of absolute truth. And please stop insulting our intelligence by claiming to be objective. That's the funniest joke of all.
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This reminds me of when I had an unstable civilian try to convince me that the jet fuel wouldn't burn hot enough to do any damage to the steel.
Silly kids.
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Again you dismiss a claim because you think that someone would have known. This is not correct investigatory practice. Whoever saw anything suspicious could have been killed! What if they did have a powerdown of wtc as scott forbes statets?
What if? That's what you got? What if? Here's one. What if Grandma had balls. OH MY GOD, SHE'D BE GRANDPA!!!! We're finally through the looking glass, people.
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why did new york newsday report that the bombsniffing dogs were removed on thursday before the attacks?
Why did WTC 7 collapse like a beautiful demo after there was no big fire or damage? just look at the video! it was a demo for certain!
Why no evidence of a plane at the pentagon? I think that the pentagon portion of the conspiracy is the easiest to shoot for if you want to prove this murdering. it was really shoddy work by the cia there was no 757 in any photo!
and where is the mother****ing videotape!!
answer me that oh content ye of your yang infatuations
BUT SERIOUSLY i think the fundamental impediment to coming to terms with the conspiracy is that people do not believe that evil exists.
or for that matter that there is a source being, the holyspirit or what say you.
Again, this has all been discussed and shot full of holes ad nauseam a long time ago. I have no further interest in rehashing it. You can keep ranting if you wish, but it's old news, and not very convincing at that. We've moved on from this.
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This reminds me of when I had a unstable civilian try to convince me that the jet fuel wouldn't burn hot enough to do any damage to the steel.
Silly kids.
Yup, this is what happens when folks read some stuff on the internets, and all of the sudden they think they're experts in various fields.
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so do you think that the people in power here just arbitrrarily create buildings symbolically connected to satanic worship because they like the shape? IT IS A RITUAL...
pentagon is a pentagram....
23 zodiacs in washington dc more than any other city on earth(secret architecture of americas capitol read it, the author doesnt have a clue why, but i do.)
statue of liberty is a variation on an ancient babylonian pagan god...The eye of horus is on our currency....
So you just pass this away as just artistic liscense or what? why all this occult symbolism everywhere? Look around you man go to a government building and look at the symbols and then find out what they mean...
THEY ARE NOT ARBITRARY.
George washington was quoted as saying of the masons, "i believe that a great and powerful force has penetrated the highest levels of our organization". He called for its destruction...as did others in the 18th century as they began to realize the structure of power being infiltrated.
There is so much symbolism in the world it is the language of the ritual.
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I am no physicist but how does a building freefall in 9 seconds. If jet fuel can do damage to the steel, which i will admit is possible,
the fires on the top floor would melt the steel and it would start to pancake in....
FINE
i will accept that but there was no resistance!!!
tower 1 fell in 8.9 seconds and tower 2 fell in 9.8 seconds. that is freefalling with zero resistance..
if it was pancaking it would have been slower! think about it!
they explosions were clearing the way so it just came down smooth.
a pancake would take so much longer.
i read a calculation that dropping a billiards ball from the height of the towers takes it 9 seconds to fall...the average speed of the towers.,......
how can you explain that. I feel that sure maybe the fuel could have eventually weakened it enough for the building to fall over but the collapse is too speedy, there was no resistance.
floors slamming into each other causing them to all break and slam down and down the line...FINE...but the act of slamming takes time and there were 110 floors which is how certain people say the pancake theory would work if it had taken a minute or more.....
there are too many questions to just tally it up to arabs with boxcutters...
what about the pentagon people
what about wtc 7!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So now the U.S. is responsible for the Statue of Liberty.
Viva Liberty. The conspiracy goes back that far. Francce was involved Damn, we planned 911 sense the WWII, hell that's when the pentagon was built. For data storage at that.
Come on dude. Your starting to sound like a troll.
Now go eat some grass
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I think i thoroughly explained that i am objective. re read my post dammit i am you best friend. popular mechanics is part if the mainstream media epidemic we have here. they are connected via $$$ to the jesuits and the zionists.
ITS NOT AN ADMIN HERE MAN!!! IT is a dynasty that dates back THOUSANDS OF YEARS! I dont give a piss about bush or the admin. clinton and the feds back in 93 let them attempt the wtc attack they knew about that too!
Clinton attended the bilderburger meeting in 91 and guess what he was elected in 92. IT IS A HUGE pyramid of control. Look up the Rodham family and you will see their occult ties.....
IT is not a matter of managing to do this in 9 months, THE PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY (PNAC) made a report in the late 90s with wolfolwitz and cheney and crystal and other neocon puppets that you can download and read and find that "THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A PEARL HARBOR TYPE EVENT" to put the plan into action....
well here we are!
International bankers are mainly zionists and zionists and jesuits have all the control in the world, they finance both sides of all the wars of 20th century, it is their way, they are sick and wretched. the control structure has been in place for thousands of years. The fact is that there is truly good and evil.
that is the prime problem i think for a lot of people when they try to comprehend this whole wtc thing. they just dont see how such evil can occur! And i feel for that man, i do. I used to believe that. I remember believing that.
There are incredibly evil forces that exist in the universe. They have successfully cut us off from our higher selves through disinfo...look at the bible, the torah and the quaran they are all the truth but filled with lies in order to create disharmony and to keep us from attaining the higher self. There is no religion only the self. The self is precious precious and perfect.
The higher self is real it is why we are here! Do you really think this exists so you can wake up and worry about wether your car is cool or wether you have enough friends or money!
If you find the higher self you contact all the knowlege of humanity and the universe in your conscious mind, and then you instantly see the evil force at work..that is why they try to hide it from you......Look up solar church and you will begin to know it is pure evil here.
I for one believe that they are here so that we can first identify the duality, (the good and evil, light darkness whatever)
and then, break free and become the eternal spirit body through this hardship...
The sad thing is that humanity had it pretty rough about 12000-13000 years ago and everything was destroyed.. WE FAILED...
There is evidence that things are even bleaker this time around and it is indeed looking grim again for humanity on earth.
btw....you have no evidence other than some military journal or what! There were so many red herrings in that article i wanted to cry for all the people who read that and of course believe it since it is "popular"
The only sort of "symptoms" from the MSM "epedemic" that you speak of is that Disney allows Rosie to bellow this sort of rubbish on the air with no consequence.
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are these not symbolic of something>>>>
or are they just art...
if its not just art, then dont you want to know the true meaning is of these symbols?
why are we SYMBOL ILLITERATE???
Im no troll i have to stand here listening to you guys totally ignore the serious questions i raise while you make fun of things you dont really understand...
and uhhh yeah you will find occult symbolism alll across the world, especially uk and europe....AND OH YEAH THE PYRAMIDS
what of the pyramids...
those structures are pretty interesting dont you think?
the rituals are old. the universe is old. this current civilization is new and we are not the latest and greatest, hate to dissapoint you there buddy.
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Nurse: Doctor, I'm afraid the patient's delusional pathology is worse than we initially feared.
Doctor: You mean to tell me...
Nurse: That's right doctor. He doesn't just believe in a 9/11 conspiracy, he believes in a centuries old global peerless supereye/Zionist/Jesuit/banker/reverse vampire/missing dryer sock conspiracy.
Doctor: My God. Then there truly is no hope for us to save him.
Nurse: I'm afraid not. It seems the aluminum from his foil hat has leeched into the brain, causing a permanent delusional state not unlike Alzheimer's. He believes he's an internet soldier fighting against the forces of evil that are out to get him.
Doctor: Dammit. I thought we had a shot to save this one.
Nurse: Well, there's always the patient down the hall who thinks he's Ethel Merman...
Tune in next week for the latest installment of "Adventures in Crazy"....
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The only sort of "symptoms" from the MSM "epedemic" that you speak of is that Disney allows Rosie to bellow this sort of rubbish on the air with no consequence.
YOU ARE A FASCIST! WHAT YOU DONT AGREE WITH FREE SPEECH?
it is that type of thinking, to hate something revolutionary because it challenges what you know, that we have been precisely conditioned for...YOU ARE THE SYMPTOM OF THEM!!!
why all this talk of rosie *uck ROSIE!!! you are a pawn if you immediately connect something to the MSM and the talking heads you are poverty.
YOU ARE POVERTY
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He believes he's an internet soldier fighting against the forces of evil that are out to get him.
Tune in next week for the latest installment of "Adventures in Crazy"....
Actually I dont think they are out to get me. from my perspective way the hell out here far far away from your poisonous polluted PERSONA land i see the evil for what it is. here to HELP you realize yourself through experience. it is the holy way.
The internet is a flaming sword in your hopeless pitiful life. It is our tool to overcome. If you really feel like everything is going to be ok, then you are in prison. you want to be in prison. You are a good little ant.
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YOU ARE A FACIST POS WHAT YOU DONT AGREE WITH FREE SPEECH?
it is that type of thinking, to hate something revolutionary because it challenges what you know, that we have been precisely conditioned for...YOU ARE THE SYMPTOM OF THEM!!!
Way to be objective there, Sparky!
The reason we're "ignoring" your so-called facts is that this whole tired subject was hashed to death months ago here, and these claims are as stale now as they were then. Maybe if you weren't a useless newbie and bothered to go back through the archives like I told you, you'd see it's all been discussed. No one has any interest in going over it again with you. Take your delusional reindeer games somewhere else.
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Hahaha. Thanks for the laughs my friend. But now it is getting boring.
No the government did not blow up the WTC. Next.
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The internet is a flaming sword in your hopeless pitiful life. It is our tool to overcome. If you really feel like everything is going to be ok, then you are in prison. you want to be in prison. You are a good little ant.
I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts I'm the happier person.
Hate to break it to ya, but if this life that I have is a "prison", then I don't want to be free. I have a great wife, great friends and family I spend quality time with, a good career, I eat good food, have plenty of leisure time to pursue hobbies and interests, and travel when and where I like without any problems. What exactly should I be getting out of life in your scenario that I'm not already?
Sigh, back to my pitiful existence, I guess...
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Nurse: Doctor, I'm afraid the patient's delusional pathology is worse than we initially feared.
Doctor: You mean to tell me...
Nurse: That's right doctor. He doesn't just believe in a 9/11 conspiracy, he believes in a centuries old global peerless supereye/Zionist/Jesuit/banker/reverse vampire/missing dryer sock conspiracy.
Doctor: My God. Then there truly is no hope for us to save him.
Nurse: I'm afraid not. It seems the aluminum from his foil hat has leeched into the brain, causing a permanent delusional state not unlike Alzheimer's. He believes he's an internet soldier fighting against the forces of evil that are out to get him.
Doctor: Dammit. I thought we had a shot to save this one.
Nurse: Well, there's always the patient down the hall who thinks he's Ethel Merman...
Tune in next week for the latest installment of "Adventures in Crazy"....
I think todays winner must have watched "National Treasure" last night.
It was on USA @ 20:00
Just toooo much of a coincidence.
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I think todays winner must have watched "National Treasure" last night.
It was on USA @ 20:00
Just toooo much of a coincidence.
You mean I missed it? Damn, I thought I had set my tin foil Tivo to record it. Well, that's the last time I consult the pyramid on the back of my dollar bill for TV listings, that's for sure...
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Because we use what we call brains and most quickly realize that odds that at least one of the thousands of people needed to pull off something off on this level would surely come out and spill the beans.
I for one trust that someone in the government whether far left or far right would do anything for this to not stuff to not happen, and many would have to be in on it.
Sorry to burst your bubble but you will have to go after the admin on a different front, this one is complete rubbish.
It's not every day I agree with Burntrax, but this is one of them.
Here's the deal- nobody wants to believe a couple of lunatics in a cave could pull this off. But that's what happened.
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