Noble Realms — Mike Tysons soul.........A few questions

Re: Mike Tysons soul.........A few questions

2004-08-27T01:58:09Z

damn...

Re: Mike Tysons soul.........A few questions

2004-08-27T00:51:44Z

Dear Aaronfirebrand
kind regards
Here is a link about mind controlled celebrities and Bob Dylan is mentioned.
http://www.illuminati-news.com/field-of-art.htm
How could you tell that Dylan was brainwashed by the way?
I am interested to know.
yours thankfully
John

Re: Mike Tysons soul.........A few questions

2004-08-26T23:42:15Z

Dear Friends
kind regards
I have a link that may be relevent to this conversation.............
http://www.alienjesus.com/ksharkey/
I hope it is of use to all of you in general.
yours thankfully
John

Re: Mike Tysons soul.........A few questions

2004-08-23T23:47:17Z

By media puppets, do you mean celebrities or newstalkers? Newstalkers like Dan Rather are probably aware generally of who "signs their checks". Take those little foxnews boobs sean hannity and bill o'reilly (bile o'really? and 'obs' hannity), how on earth could they say the things they say and promote the things they promote without being aware of at least the lower levels of the "plan"? They simply must know what they're involved in; no one can be as disingenuous as they appear to be--it's an act. Celebrities would be more likely to be traumatized MC victims with a front alter who is aware only of the illusion they've been surrounded with. I'm sure billy graham's front alter truly believes he's a man of God, but billy's there to lead believers up the garden path, not to Eden, but to the garbage dump.
I just thought of Dennis Miller, whose career was in the toilet but was resuscitated in the last few years. My father used to think he was an idiot when he just told jokes, but now that Miller's all "right wing and conservative" (he's really neither, but his new image pretends to that distinction), dad thinks he's just great.
I may as well ask this here: Is anyone aware of any connection between Bob Dylan and MC/Illuminati activity? I used to be a huge fan of his, but have been nagged by an uneasy feeling about him over the past decade or so. I've searched all over for any connection, but I come up dry. It occurs to me that there must be some "agents" so well-concealed that ordinary research reveals nothing of them. If someone has something to share on this, please do.

Re: Mike Tysons soul.........A few questions

2004-08-23T23:14:27Z

ok. my question now has become;

do you all think these media puppets are aware that they are part of this illuminati manipulation program, or its all subconscious kind of thing?

regards
z

Re: Mike Tysons soul.........A few questions

2004-08-23T22:37:05Z

LOL... I knew i probably spelled his last name wrong, but i didn't realize i put Fred, lol, i knew his first name was Fritz so there's not excuse there. But actually, thanks aaronfirebrand. I wrote that on the fly and i knew the spelling was probably not accurate but i didn't have time to figure it out (i'm at work).

And FRITZ SPRINGMEIER is defenitely something you'll want to look into if you are not familiar with him and his work and you are interested in the subject of mind-control.

Re: Mike Tysons soul.........A few questions

2004-08-23T22:24:20Z

I agree with your comments, king-vima. I don't think intelligence would make any difference in whether an individual can be turned into a MC slave.
Operation Paperclip at the end of WWII brought many, many nazi ss to our country. Gehlen, who headed the nazi secret police, came here and reconfigured the OSS into the CIA. He also developed the modern Mossad in Israel. Incredible! Werner von Braun (ss) worked at Disney(!) before entering our rocket program.
For those who wish to do a search on Fritz Springmeier (and I recommend looking at his work), the correct spelling is given here. No offence, king-vima. It's just that I know how frustrating it can be to come up empty when you know something is there.

Re: Mike Tysons soul.........A few questions

2004-08-23T21:13:21Z

Moralman wrote:

However Mike Tyson isn't the type of person that the Illuminati would want and neither could they brainwash him.

First, the human mind is extremely ductile. Look into Fred Spreigmeyer's publication title something along the line of "Illuminati formula for creating and controlling an mind-controlled slave". Learn how the mind can be traumitized and split into literally hundreds of shattered alter personalities and how mind-control handlers can organize the personalities as they see fit or even create a time-bomb personality that can be activated at a certain date.

And trauma is only one method of manipulation. There are many ways a person could manipulate another's mind, from hypnotic induction, to frequencies of a specific range, to brainwashing (look up the literal term of brainwashing and what it means to brainwash / be brainwashed).

Mind manipulation has been a favorite subject of any, but especially, the US government for decades upon decades. Research Joseph Mengele, the angel of death. A Nazi General and scientist who was later recruited, along with other Nazi scientists, to work for the US continuing their research into nothing else but mind-control.

Once you realize how easy it is to create a mind-controlled slave, and you begin to uncover some of the darker military projects into creating mind-controlled slaves, you'll realize that there are thousands of people among us right now, at work or in the super-market that have been indoctrinated with Illiminati mind-control program and don't even know it themselves.

The Illiminati will create mind-control slaves for just about anything you can think of. They have sex-slaves (male and female), bodyguards, assassins, politicians, media, celebrities, crazy lone-gunman, and i'm sure in thousands of other roles.

I could never look-up to any person who has ever intentionally and methodically hurt another person. Mike Tyson may or may not be mind-controlled or maniuplated, and he may or may not be trying to get his life (back) on track, but i know for a fact that he has not chosen to live his life serving a positive purpose toward humanity (and don't say "entertainment" is a contribution to the evolution and survival of the human species or human spirit), he has not chosen to respect the sovereign rights of another soul, he has not chosen to respect the apposite laws of our society and therfore i see him as a drain on the collective human soul.

Re: Mike Tysons soul.........A few questions

2004-08-23T16:22:59Z

Moralman wrote:

One thing that I can say about Mike Tyson which is positive-there is no way the Illuminati can brainwash him...............he has his own mind.

Interesting thing to say. I was always under the impression that Tyson doesn't actually have a mind!! I mean ya gotta be pretty mindless to beat up women like he did and then try and chew off your opponents ear, not to mention squandering an absolute fortune. Maybe he's one of those soul-less humans.

I really don't think there's anything positive that can be said about Mike Tyson. He's just a violent thug. The sooner he's permanently out of the spotlight the better...shouldn't be long now!

Re: Mike Tysons soul.........A few questions

2004-08-23T16:21:43Z

Tanx lyra!

Re: Mike Tysons soul.........A few questions

2004-08-23T16:21:42Z

Dear Friends
kind regards
I am most convinced that Mike Tysons soul characteristics were with him before he was born and will be with him after he dies.
According to some sources souls match the DNA and the Reptilian bloodlines always find the same souls over and over again to interbreed with in human form because they can activate them.
Therefore even if a person dies his or her soul characteristics live on.
My feeling is that Tysons soul was definately in the form of a monstrous ancient gladiator in the past.
Its interesting to discuss to say the least.
yours thankfully
John

Re: Mike Tysons soul.........A few questions

2004-08-23T16:05:38Z

Auendove wrote:

lyra wrote:
Project Moriah = Butterflies = Monarch programming = Rainbows = Over the Rainbow / Wizard of Oz, sex slaves who are programmed to self destruct at age 30, like clockwork.
lyra,
Could you make a post, under whatever topic it would be most relevant, to expound on your notation that The Wizard of Oz was used as a mind progamming tool... I'd like to know for my own awareness, I've never heard anything but good about this film so far. Thanks.
I ask because this film was one of the most influential of my life, but I started getting my life together at 30... maybe it's just a "superstar" issue?

Hi Auendove,

The Wizard of Oz had positive origins and intentions it seems, according to the C's, but like most things, it was taken and corrupted for mind control programming. Wizard of Oz is a major MAJOR programming theme / system. Fritz Springmeier actually devotes an entire chapter of his book "Illuminati Formula........." to the Wizard of Oz, explaining how it's used.

Interestingly enough, I always had a slight aversion to the Wizard of Oz. I'll post the info. on Wizard of Oz programming over in manyeagle's Mind Control thread.

Re: Mike Tysons soul.........A few questions

2004-08-23T15:46:49Z

lyra wrote:

Project Moriah = Butterflies = Monarch programming = Rainbows = Over the Rainbow / Wizard of Oz, sex slaves who are programmed to self destruct at age 30, like clockwork.

lyra,

Could you make a post, under whatever topic it would be most relevant, to expound on your notation that The Wizard of Oz was used as a mind progamming tool... I'd like to know for my own awareness, I've never heard anything but good about this film so far. Thanks.

I ask because this film was one of the most influential of my life, but I started getting my life together at 30... maybe it's just a "superstar" issue?

Re: Mike Tysons soul.........A few questions

2004-08-23T09:24:47Z

Dear Veritas
kind regards
I think that Mike Tyson was manipulated to a degree by Don King(33rd degree Freemason) whilst he was with him...............eventually Tyson came to his senses and floored King in the street back in 1998.
However Mike Tyson isn't the type of person that the Illuminati would want and neither could they brainwash him.
Tyson was born in a rough area its as plain and simple as that-his life is an open book for everyone to see.
There is plenty of information online about Madonna being an Illuminati puppet-I think that the Illuminati focuses their attention primarily on certain types of media............they'd have no use for a man like Tyson.
yours thankfully
John

Re: Mike Tysons soul.........A few questions

2004-08-23T08:18:49Z

aaronfirebrand - you're right, there are many fine records stores here but alas, portland has it's share of rednecks too! and lyra, yes, portland is quite the illuminati hive! you're right, it's the city of roses with roses on the cops' emblems and of course the annual high ritual of the rose festival, when the city hosts the navy fleet and the waterfront is patrolled by black helicopters and heavily armed goons. there's a lot of kkk nonsense in portland's history, too (not to say that is distinct from illuminati) and a particularly evil chapter of "shanghai-ing" - abductions into slavery on seafaring ships. you can still tour the "shanghai tunnels" under the old town section of the city, through which poor souls were trafficked from the street to the port. portland's police are notoriously brutal. the violence the cops unleashed upon anti-war protestors in the past two years is legendary. the past two summers have seen two unarmed black motorists shot dead in their cars by the police during traffic stops. in both cases, the grand jury found no wrong doing on the parts of the cops involved. oh yes, and the chemtrail activity here is frequently alarming. this past week there have been giant Xs in the sky directly over the city, with endless layers of broad lines over every horizon. ahhh, breathe deep! you may wonder why i choose to be here, given all this - so do i sometimes. maybe i need to be here to help counter all that hideousness. i'm still figuring it out. re: madonna, i agree that her promoting the kabbalah isn't necessarily a help to humanity. the kabbalah is a very tricky arena to dabble in - it's hardly fun and games or happy-feel-good times for the masses. interesting to hear that britney spears has recently begun to study the kabbalah just like her pal madonna!