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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Lono, <br />Ive been doing the same!&nbsp; The wasps just love building their homes on our house. I have been using the same technique to keep them away. Ive told them they could build on the house as long as its nowhere near where we sit or frequent. And that they cant harass us. Works for me, but they do like to buzz my hubby. Especially those huge European hornets.&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /> The ants though, well, they dont listen too well. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/hmm.png" width="15" height="15" alt="hmm" /> I guess I will have to figure another angle with them.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 14:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Funny you say that, Treehugger.&nbsp; Something similar has been happening for me.</p><p>Background:&nbsp; I have a screened in back porch that I love.&nbsp; We&#039;ve propped the screen door open so that my dog can come and go as he pleases, but that means wasps can, too.&nbsp; I&#039;m allergic to their stings, so I always get scared when I see them despite the fact that I know better than to respond that way.&nbsp; It&#039;s just a body-thing.&nbsp; So this one wasp keeps coming into the porch, and then it gets stuck in there, not being able to figure out how to get past the screen.</p><p>I just can&#039;t bring myself to kill things just because they&#039;re inconvenient for me, so I have a trick wherein I cover it with a cup, slide paper underneath, take it out and fling it madly so as not to have it blow back on&nbsp; me.</p><p>Now to the meat of the story:&nbsp; I started watching him try to come back in a couple of days ago, and I was mentally saying ,&quot;No.. no.... no....&quot;&nbsp; I saw him almost passing the threshold, then he&#039;d pull back.&nbsp; He did this several times and flew off.&nbsp; About the third time this happened, I realized I must have been communicating with him on some level!&nbsp; He was actually feeling the barrier and either respecting my wishes because I hadn&#039;t killed him, or he didn&#039;t want to get stuck in there any more than I wanted him to.</p><p>Pretty cool.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 12:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Timekitty.<br />Acually, I have been visualizing a &quot;no cats allowed&quot; invisible fence around the perimeter. So far, so good! Somebody had also mentioned planting rue, as the cats dont like it. I had some on another part of the property, so I moved it. So maybe its been a combination of both.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 12:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Timekitty wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I love the idea of the &quot;cat area&quot; with catnip...to distract them from your sanctuary...also the bells to prevent them from killing your creatures. If the owners refuse to pu the bells on the cats, I would just call the city and see if they would intervene... Sometimes they can enforce rules for vaccines or cat bells...<br />Here where I live...we have a similar problem but with coyotes eating the cats and small dogs. So my babies are kept inside...no wildlife for them.</p><p>Good luck and keep us posted on your progress...</p><p>Cassie</p></blockquote></div><p>Totally off topic....but are you *the* &quot;Cassie&quot; from Texas?&nbsp; The one who wrote for the Universal Seduction series??&nbsp; I figured you most likely were, then clicked on your website link and see that you have the Universal Seduction series advertised on your page.&nbsp; Is so, then Wow!!&nbsp; Pretty cool!&nbsp; If not, I&#039;m a goober, and just ignore this!&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 21:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I love the idea of the &quot;cat area&quot; with catnip...to distract them from your sanctuary...also the bells to prevent them from killing your creatures. If the owners refuse to pu the bells on the cats, I would just call the city and see if they would intervene... Sometimes they can enforce rules for vaccines or cat bells...<br />Here where I live...we have a similar problem but with coyotes eating the cats and small dogs. So my babies are kept inside...no wildlife for them.</p><p>Good luck and keep us posted on your progress...</p><p>Cassie</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 17:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>It sounds like a multiple-tactic approach would work. Bells, whistles, tech toys, netting, and a feeding perch where the birds are out of reach and have a good view of the yard. One sign of a cat and the birds can send an alert. Designing the pond so that the fish have a good hiding place under rock ledges and deep basins. Maybe you could consult a pond designer--they might have some suggestions.</p><p>I was joking about the piranhas and coyotes. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p><p>Lono--I find that it pays to talk with the neighborhood kids in a cooperative manner. We&#039;ve never had problems with kids when we build a rapport with them. I know this doesn&#039;t work in all cases, but they&#039;ll respect you more if you respect them. They&#039;re kids, is all, and they like to please people who treat them well--this is my experience.</p><p>Talking with the neighbors is always a challenge, but a good idea if you can keep a respectful&nbsp; attitude. I&#039;ve worked in some of the most dangerous neighborhoods in the SF area and never had any tools stollen or vehicles damaged. Respect goes a long way--backed by a sincere smile and a safe bit of prudence.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2007 07:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I think there&#039;s something deeper to this boundary respecting thing.&nbsp; Like your neighbors, for example.&nbsp; They&#039;ve made it pretty clear that they don&#039;t respect yours.&nbsp; And I hate to sound like an old curmudgeon, but many kids these days don&#039;t seem to know about boundaries either.&nbsp; I&#039;ve analyzed this to see if I&#039;m being unreasonable or materialistic to expect others to &quot;stay off my stuff,&quot; but I think there&#039;s more to it than that.&nbsp; I think it has something to do with&nbsp; my being vigilant about my personal space on all fronts:&nbsp; etheric, mental, emotional, and physical.&nbsp; I think it&#039;s important to have those boundaries and that space.</p><p>Anyway-- back to the cats, I think you can take a multi-faceted approach.&nbsp; Put those collars with bells on yourself, since they won&#039;t do it.&nbsp; Plant rue and other plants around your &quot;boundary&quot; area.&nbsp; Plant pleasing plants to lure them AWAY from your area, etc.&nbsp; It&#039;ll be a lot of trouble, but I think it&#039;s the best you can do for now.&nbsp; But also-- try talking to them mentally and asking them to go elsewhere, just as I&#039;m going to have to talk to this little girl.&nbsp; You obviously know how to communicate with cats, since you have two of your own.</p><p>I&#039;ve decided I&#039;m going to tell my little &quot;problem girl&quot; about the flower seeds, the new grass, etc., and explain to her why it&#039;s important to keep bikes and stuff off of it.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>z3n3rg...good idea, I will check that out!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>There is some kinda electronic fencing that you bury in the ground.&nbsp; Not sure the specifics or anything.&nbsp; I know they have things like that for indoors to keep cats off furniture, just not sure how the outdoor fence works.&nbsp; Some sorta feline frequency fence.&nbsp; All you would need is enough for the area around the habitat.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Lono wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>That&#039;s the kind of advise I&#039;m looking for!&nbsp; I don&#039;t have any experience with kids, so when I try to get them to respect my property, it comes off sounding mean if I come out and say it, or condescending when I try to be nice.&nbsp; It&#039;s hard for me to relate because when I was a little kid, I was soooo respectful of boundaries.&nbsp; I made friendships with some of the neighbors and would pet their dogs through the fence (once I had permission and knew they weren&#039;t mean), but steered clear of their private yards, driveways, etc.&nbsp; </p><p>Oh-- just had another thought about the cats.&nbsp; Could you get your neighbor to at least put collars with bells on them?&nbsp; That scares away birds and small animals, and they can&#039;t sneak up on them.</p></blockquote></div><p>Good idea.&nbsp; I even suggested one time that they put a bird feeder in THEIR yard to keep the cats there. But they never did. Maybe I will just go out and get a birdfeeder and some collars with bells (they have 4 cats!)</p><p>Yeah, I was very respectful as a kid about other people&#039;s yards. I was real anal with my kids on that point.&nbsp; I use to have kids all over my yard when my kids were little. I didnt care then. But now they are grown, and its kind of nice not having bikes laying all over and toys strewn about. Now its a place to relax.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>titmouse_ wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Like anything to do with nature--remove or substitute the food source. You could decide to turn it into a cat sanctuary and keep adding fingerlings to the pond, or you could create a reverse-predation and place paranha in the pond and coyotes in the fenced yard. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /> </p><p>Maybe de-clawed cats wouldn&#039;t come into the yard. Discuss with your neighbors the possibilities to keep harmony in the neighborhood.</p></blockquote></div><p>Titmouse,<br />that defeats the whole purpose of the WILDLIFE habitat.&nbsp; Domestic cats kill more songbirds than any other predator. They dont kill to eat, they do it for sport. Why should I give up my enjoyment of the wildlife, faeries and divas that that my yard was intended for, just because the neighbors dont care about their cats?&nbsp; My cats are indoors for a reason. I know they would be killers in the garden.&nbsp; Plus, I feel they are safer inside I make sure that they are happy and well entertained and provided for indoors. They themselves could fall prey to predators outside, bobcats, hawks, and cars.&nbsp; Plus I also realize that they dont know human land boundaries, and I&nbsp; respect the fact&nbsp; that some neighbors would not appreciate my cats in their yard.&nbsp; .</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s the kind of advise I&#039;m looking for!&nbsp; I don&#039;t have any experience with kids, so when I try to get them to respect my property, it comes off sounding mean if I come out and say it, or condescending when I try to be nice.&nbsp; It&#039;s hard for me to relate because when I was a little kid, I was soooo respectful of boundaries.&nbsp; I made friendships with some of the neighbors and would pet their dogs through the fence (once I had permission and knew they weren&#039;t mean), but steered clear of their private yards, driveways, etc.&nbsp; </p><p>Oh-- just had another thought about the cats.&nbsp; Could you get your neighbor to at least put collars with bells on them?&nbsp; That scares away birds and small animals, and they can&#039;t sneak up on them.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Lono, I got a great suggestion for the bike rider.&nbsp; I had a problem with the neighbors son. He was killing frogs from my pond, and when his friend came over, they would throw rocks in it. They ended up breaking a part off the pond pump.&nbsp; In other words, there just wasnt any respect for other peoples things.&nbsp; Talking to his parents didnt help. He would just come back and do it again.&nbsp; So one day I asked him if he would be sort of my &quot;pond steward&quot;. I told him about all the animals and such that visited the pond. I then asked if he could &quot;keep an eye&quot; on it. Make sure none of the other kids bothered it. He was so thrilled that I asked him this special favor, he never bothered it again. Maybe you could talk to the little girl with this kind of angle. Kids seem to respond better that way.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>titmouse_ wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Like anything to do with nature--remove or substitute the food source. You could decide to turn it into a cat sanctuary and keep adding fingerlings to the pond, or you could create a reverse-predation and place paranha in the pond and coyotes in the fenced yard. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /> </p><p>Maybe de-clawed cats wouldn&#039;t come into the yard. Discuss with your neighbors the possibilities to keep harmony in the neighborhood.</p></blockquote></div><p>Titmouse, I had thought about the concept of making a &quot;cat area&quot; with catnip, valerian (they love that stinky stuff), etc.&nbsp; That might work-- make an area that begs to be a cat home!&nbsp; Just make it far away from your other sanctuary, if possible.</p><p>Now I have a similar problem, but with kids.&nbsp; We have neighborhood kids that are mostly good, but there&#039;s one 10-year-old girl who keeps riding her bike in my yard.&nbsp; This bothers me on a number of levels, one because I don&#039;t want to be liable if she gets hurt.&nbsp; &nbsp;But more importantly, I don&#039;t want my grass and flowers trampled, it just feels like a territory violation, and I don&#039;t like kids!&nbsp; But now I&#039;m reminded of my neighbor and her trees, the man who hated squirrels, etc.&nbsp; I wanted to just go out there and tell her not to ride in my yard, but my&nbsp; husband has asked me not to because he doesn&#039;t want me &quot;making a bad impression&quot; with our new neighbors.&nbsp; If I see her riding on my grass one more time, I&#039;m going to say something, but I&#039;m not sure how to handle it.</p><p>Edited to add, I&#039;m working on becoming the crazy cat lady that all the neighborhood kids fear, but that doesn&#039;t just happen overnight.&nbsp; You have to work up to it, and right now I only have four cats, I&#039;m not old enough, and I&#039;m just not crazy enough yet. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" />&nbsp; Workin&#039; on it, tho&#039;!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>What if your cats go outside to mark their property? If there is a strong male amng your cats, the problem is solved ;-)<br />If you don&#039;t have a male, get one, two or three cats is about the same:-)</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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