Noble Realms — An etheric wrestling match...

Re: An etheric wrestling match...

2007-03-10T22:42:40Z

....i noticed you fellows brought up 'the old hag'....i had to look that term up...other termonolgy for so would be 'kali'.....thats my reference within parallel termonolgy for the sake of connecting words with feelings.....my experience on the Path strongly suggests that 'shes' worth mentioning.....she the symbolic guardian betwen this dimension and our true home...de facto.....she pretty much is the infamous veil.....for males and females alike.....speaking from the male experience i have found that it is of paramount importance to balance out ones imbalances before travelling through her terrain.....she'll get one upon asscension and/or descension.......she is what all men secretly fear and what women reach for upon coming across the time when it becomes necessary to drop a heavy hand upon the male dominating ego or even her fellow female who mirrors back some sort of horrific imprint/feeling.......one can easily see how powerful she's been through simply reading the left behind history records of mankind.....i guage her power collectivley by seeing that we still look outside of ourselves in order to even speak about her presence......tough stuff.......i guage her power individually by living this life in the consciouss knowing that she rests within us activley.....us males don't like to acknowledge that half our equation is of the female variety......we can hide it well down here yet the terrain beyond the veil is within a state of wholeness.......our shadowic sides ride everpresent and everclear right up at the forefront of our beings.....the first time up top one will usually gaze in shock to all the distorted human beings blindly traversing along until we stumble across a mirror and witness our own inside out reallity generated by releasing all our kundalini to its normal state which in turn jettisons off the smily mask we cover ourselves with what we commonly refer to as a personality.....they don't say we are an emotionally wounded planet for the sake of words alone.....we are going through a collective healing period.....our egoic formation and destruction over time has created a mess that only we can clean up/transmute at a souls level of which also appears to be transpiring......by the way all those 3d beautiful women and chest thumping on top of the world males are some of the more ravished souls up top....no one seems to hear there cries for help......we are all on an equal playing field so it is worth remembering to never give our power away and where it is splintered it really is best for all parties to gently and compassionatley reel it back in.......besides that the place i'm refering to which most know is heavan, our home.......or any of a couple dozen terms that acknowledge the same place............kali/the old hag/the gate keeper...........acknowledge that she is within us......she wears and has worn many faces yet i have found that we must go or eventually get to our mothers.....some say we have chosen them and if we did then it is they that will hold the keys of transmutation that will unlock or shadowic or unhealed aspects of self......a suggestion would be to give all current and former girlfriends a compassionate free pass so that we can focus all our attention on one target.......we must get beyond this mirror version of self in the case we ever have a chance of releasing, raising and dealing with our kundalini on full throttle of which will eventually, in this lifetime or future lives, be the transport vessel that takes us back home......in wholeness....real deal.....not just in parts as we are used to in this day and age............now, if we can embrace the dynamics of this potential reallity then we can understand that the old hag is a culmination of frequencies that resonate within us that are attempting to get our attention.....the thing is that when we go into denial of so then we become susceptable to the originator of those frequencies yet not taking sole possession of them.......hence possession......hence sexual infestation from some seemingly alien like forms.....hence madness/insanity....hence war and violence if we are to attempt to project these rogue frequencies off 'constructivley'........etc,etc,etc......if these female frequencies are not understood dynamically and dealt with properly then we will go through a cyclicure sequence that will never get past the mirror aspect of life......the female frequencies within the male will constitute whatever our etheric imprint gives its attention to throughout the day or lifetime.....its recorded....if our imprint is saturated with a girlfriends emotional distress and she activated those emotions within herself from the other side of the planet then we will feel them energetically as if she's right beside us....what do you believe will happen energetically if we fall in love with a picture of an uknown woman.....check it out....dealing directly with energy can be some heavy stuff as we all know......we're basically all accountable for each other.........there are many tribes based on gender, sexuality, insanity, physical dominance, etc that are high up in the 3d frequencies yet they never made it through the veil collectivley......there are some high levels of conscioussness there yet they are contained at that position if you follow......in conclusion in the case anyone got this far amongst this potential ramble.......we can release the accumulated 'old hag' frequencies before they become disruptive....we can do it energetically right up our beings and out of the top of our heads........while there running inside of us open up the energy centers individually......counter clockwise to open in many cases........sellenite would be a precious tool in a situation as such since it will facilitate the energetic work and potentially contain the rogue frequencies which could then be dispersed to the sun and moon to finish the clearing job....no salt water for sellenite by the way as it will disolve some of its properties.......allow the frequencies to run while pulling up the energy from the lower chakras......feel and allow the thoughts attached to these emotional charges to cruise through the left brain and up and out through the pineal's connection to the crown chakra and ultimatley to what some refer to as the giant vat in the sky that pretty much holds all our collective psychic pollution.......after it completley leaves one will feel as though a rogue energetic body just exited our beings.....we like to 'think' that someone or something is doing this to us yet once again it is us in reallity that is running and is responsable for the 'show'.......once they are gone then pay attention to any incoming thoughtforms that are less than pure.....eventually we can get a handle on this process yet they will come back in the case we get slack with our disciplines.......if they do then we will atleast have a system, method, understanding, and tools to combat this type of head and heart aches.......i must say that if we attempt to project these tainted frequencies back to their perceived senders then they will simply come back to us at a later date.....why, they have our imprint attached and whatever we push upon within the denser levels of the maya will come back like an etherically imprinted magnet....otherwise known as karma of course.........................carlos castenada has said to look at our hands i believe someone said upon these perceived attacks......this is since our hands are de facto and symbolically grounding just as touching the tip of our nose, etc.....to study the timing of these energetic eruptions will show that more often than not our guards will have been lowered and we will have left our beings in all or some form.......booze by the way will also expedite this 'old hag' process from beginning to end in more times than not yet its a difficult terrain to win/transmute effectivley and consistently...............take it easy guys, hoped a tid bit or two helped in some way.....if not it should faciltate the sleeping process......namaste

Re: An etheric wrestling match...

2007-03-10T19:19:12Z

Blue wrote:

Thanks for sharing that GreyCat, this is a really weird time isn't it?
You can see why they call this 'the novelty', it seems to be through dreams that we are coming to terms with the 4d/5d transition. Meditation no longer hits the spot for me now, it's mastering the astral realm, or at least keeping low key, and not sucuumbing to fear while you are in there. A few months ago, I overcame the 'old hag' of sleep paralysis, but was told they would be sending a more powerful 'enemy', once I had had some rest.
I think I understand what you are saying Transcix, about 'fighting yourself', as ultimately we are all aspects of the same, but we are obviously not all going to click as one, there will still be many who havent even begun this journey, and even though 'friends' they can appear now as 'enemies'. We are the 'next wave' and al this stuff can be spooky, it's all novel to us, but thanks to the works of Castenada, and more importantly, the folks here on NR , all going through the same journey, albeit at different levels, timescales, we have help.
If whatever you experience doesn't give you peace, then it must be an illusion.

Ooooo, the Hag. I know the hag quite well. I actually met her first in New Foundland, an island famous for Hag attacks. In fact, the first bar I wandered into in St. John's had a painting on the wall of a man enduring a Hag attack. I've been to that island twice on different jobs and the second time around I saw her in the etheric. She was standing over my bed, but I wasn't paralysed. At that point I had been through many of these experiences so I smiled and said 'you have no power over me, lady'. It was during a meditation session, and after that I rolled over and went to sleep.
I actually don't get much sleep paralysis these days. I haven't for about a year. It's either the neg's messing with you, or not being fully back in your body.
I haven't mentioned it before, so my story might have made less sense. But after I am dreaming of things chasing me, I wake up and this light show (Which I THINK is the same thing as Stuart Wilde's 'morph') is really blazing. It's purplish and green and it fills my whole range of vision. In it, I have seen these...sort of etheric cuttlefish or squid like creatures. I have seen them float away and out of my room about five times.
Sometimes when someone is attacking me in a dream, I will feel it in my physical body, kind of like being poked. Whenever I feel it the most, these cuttlefish are there. It's very odd, because I see them when I'm AWAKE. The Ra material mentioned that 4D STS use servants to do thier dirty work, one is the 'neanderthal man' and the other is a thought form. Perhaps these squidies are that thought form?
I mention it response to Transcix's reply. Yes I believe one needs to overcome aspects of the ego in order to advance. But seeing these things totally awake and outside my self leads me to consider that they are using unclear aspects of myself against me until I learn to make peace with them. In pondering this, I have come to understand my weaknesses and am dealing with them in my life. I guess they can only attack where you are weakest.
I recently read Montalks article about what to do in these cases. I like some of his ideas. It's way too easy to look on the negative side if you pay too much attention to politics and the state of the world. So I've sort of backed off on all that stuff (Still checking in now and again to know whats going on and when to 'stick and move' when I have to.).
Also, initially Don Juan suggests that Castaneda look at his HANDS while dreaming, which suggests an astral body much like our own. If thats the case, then I'll just stick to that till I learn to change into other stuff like balls of light and such.
Thankf for your reply, Blue, and keep on going. Overcoming the Hag is a good move. Who knows what they will throw at you next?

Re: An etheric wrestling match...

2007-03-10T18:11:22Z

Thanks for sharing that GreyCat, this is a really weird time isn't it?

You can see why they call this 'the novelty', it seems to be through dreams that we are coming to terms with the 4d/5d transition. Meditation no longer hits the spot for me now, it's mastering the astral realm, or at least keeping low key, and not sucuumbing to fear while you are in there. A few months ago, I overcame the 'old hag' of sleep paralysis, but was told they would be sending a more powerful 'enemy', once I had had some rest.

Its the same with sleep paralysis, you can't physically move, so stop struggling, and realise that this is a perfect opportunity for an OOBE experience. Spin out of your body, draw your sword of light, and ask the old hag/alien that is riding your body 'Can I help you? - Reveal your true self'.

I think I understand what you are saying Transcix, about 'fighting yourself', as ultimately we are all aspects of the same, but we are obviously not all going to click as one, there will still be many who havent even begun this journey, and even though 'friends' they can appear now as 'enemies'. We are the 'next wave' and al this stuff can be spooky, it's all novel to us, but thanks to the works of Castenada, and more importantly, the folks here on NR , all going through the same journey, albeit at different levels, timescales, we have help.

If whatever you experience doesn't give you peace, then it must be an illusion.

Re: An etheric wrestling match...

2007-03-10T01:32:39Z

You are more of your own trickster than you know...

You are only fighting yourself, I would say.. because at some point when you become lucid, you allow yourself to slip into egocentric tendancies.. perhaps like when you "realize that I really don't know how to move properly with an astral body, so I start practicing a bunch of lazy flips and sommersaults in the air, delighted at the experience of being able to float and fly."... if you regard the experience with novelty, unprofessionally, then part of you is thinking "shape up or ship out".. but since you identify with your ego here to the exclusion of your more serious side, you just feel a queesy and dreadful uneasiness about what you're doing, as if it's completely wrong. Knowledge is power and power is responsibility - when you KNOW, then you are serious, or you play a role like Don Juan whereby for all his laughter he is deadly serious. Fun and games in the astral, or right intent towards self-realization whereby astral affairs may or may not manifest as needed. What's the appeal of the astral, anyways? And isn't what you're describing a lot more like lucid dreaming than OBE or astral travel anyways? Isn't it, in any case, a clumsy way to navigate the astral to be inside your own IRL body (just one of many of your soul's vessels, not who you truly are)? Why not be a ball of light/energy?

An etheric wrestling match...

2007-03-09T21:25:46Z

First I have to say that, after getting slammed and banned from the SOTT site, I'm really impressed by NR and the cooperation and respect people give for eachothers beliefs and view points. It seems like a much more harmonious exchange of ideas and information the the Fourth Way people.
Ok, so this is an experience I had a few weeks ago that I found quite epic. I've been dealing with all this for the past four years. A bit of info before I start. Four years ago, I was sitting on a sofa in Montreal after a pretty hairy tour of New Foundland when I just decided to 'give up'. That is, I had finished my life's work, and I didn't want to DO anything. I sat and sort of slipped into a trance. The only thing left that I could consider a desire was to KNOW. To know if the beings that I had read about, the Cassiopaeans, or the Tall Boys, or the Elves, actually existed.
I felt this pulse in my forehead and in front of me, I started to see this light, as if it was beaming through an invisible tube in front of me. It bathed me in this light. I sat and watched it for about 15 minutes. Since then, each time I close my eyes, I see this light, like it's coming from a wormhole in front of me.
I have had over a hundred experiences with all this. Everything from seeing beings and visions in this light. To weird noises. Sleep paralysis and many many assaults in OBE's by negative forces. For me, it's less that they are 'abducting me' and more that each time I try to leave my body and wander around in an OBE, I feel like I've been 'noticed' and then something will literally pluck me up and push me back into my body.
I've read Montalks articles about negative entity attentions and yes I agree. Just because you are hounded by dark forces does NOT mean you are on the right track. And I can't say my life has been entirely positive as well. It would be foolish to recount my life as to the validity of that statement. It would take too much time.
Ok, so onto the experience.
I've been working alot on entering OBE's through a hypnagogic state. I work mainly at night, so I can sleep in, and it's been noted by many a researcher that OBE's occur alot in the morning, when one has the time to be in a half waking sort of dose.
I start having an OBE where I am in a small village. I am wandering around the village and much like waking up after sleep, I slowly realize I am in astral. I start wandering around, looking into nooks and crannies of the town, all the while the details of the dream become just as vivid as real life and I am becoming 'awake'. I then get this though that since I'm not in a body, that I don't really need to be on the ground, so I climb a fire escape to the top of a roof and I leap off, I go into the air and am suddenly caught by an airplane! This seems to be an overlying theme of my dreams. Either it's me who can't possibly believe that flying is possible (which I'm not sure is true as I've flown in many a dream.) or it's these forces 'catching' me and putting me back in a mundane situation.
I'm only in the plane for a short time before I resolve to float up and out of the plane and back into the air.
As I leave, I find myself in a large, medical examination like room. It seems very sterile and coldly metal. Sort of like one of the rooms folks go to in the hospital to look at thier newborn babies in the incubators, with the windows keeping the outside world at bay.
The dream has now reached 'maxium vividness' and clarity. I have full view of my body and of my surroundings. I realize that I really don't know how to move properly with an astral body, so I start practicing a bunch of lazy flips and sommersaults in the air, delighted at the experience of being able to float and fly.
Then I feel 'the presence'. I've felt it many times. I refer to it when a dream 'goes sour'. I feel this dreadful presence and then all sorts of things in the dream come after me. Sometimes it's a pack of rabid dogs, or muggers, or even onetime a bunch of angry squirels. But you can feel it, as if there is something watching over you that has decied 'thats enough' and soon after I am running in the dream, till I awake.
This time I feel it behind me, and I see this tall black woman as I turn around. She leaps up on one of the table and crouches low. The look on her face is one of fury. Apparently I'm not supposed to be here. She leaps at me and then we are wrestling. Now, I'm a pretty good grappler. I was a varsity wrestler in high school and I've kept my chops in many different forms of movement. But none of my techniques are working here, as this is not the physical plane. Each time I try to break her lock, I fail. She has her arms around me in a huge bear hug and is squeezing the life out of me. I am facing her and I am stif arming her face, my hand on her chin and I'm pushing her back from me with all my might. Suddenly I realize, much like other times I've been attacked like this, that you can't fight them. The more you do, the more you loose.
And I realize that the only thing I want, again, is to KNOW. To know why these things keep harassing me. I grab her head in my hands and I scream "LOOK AT ME!!". I get a close up of her face, and our eyes meet.
There is a WOOOOSH, and I am back in my body, my eyes open.

So heres the thing. I've read some posts from people about being warriors for harmony. I'm with you. It's the only reason I'm here as well. But this experience has made me realize that fighting them has everything to do with looking into them, about seeing through all thier illusions into what they are. Each time I have the strength to do that, they vanish. I think thats the key.
One word always comes to mind when I think of TPTB, the lizards, or whatever you want to call them.
Oppose.
It seems like a more complete word than fight. Oppose means to actively refuse to comply with a person or SYSTEM.
I like that. We are warriors who oppose...