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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah! I have also seen a yellow color when the energies seem to be higher, more 4D I suppose. I remember vividly when I was four, seems funny to say that right now, waking up christmas morning and staring at the christmas tree, time stopped, and everything glowed golden yellow for a moment. I looked up at my mother and we both glowed and smiled at each other. Lovely!</p><p>As a note, in some systems yellow is also the color of the higher intellect and been somewhat promenant in some of my dreams.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>As I have discussed with Palulukon, I have had a few OBE&#039;s and communications with others including her, on other plains, that the wave is approaching and it is time to prepare. Stop screwing around, bub! However! When we read the Dobbs sight, which sent a very uneasy feeling through me followed closely by a feeling towards laughter, I also revaluated my conceived ideas about the wave and the implications of Dobbs info on the matter. This of course compounded by that whole Secret Covenant thingy, which I had not seen before. In general I am also experiencing the same things as everyone else. In my OB times I have seen ships coming and hanging out with the distinct message the wave is coming. Also, in my interactions with Palulukon and other &#039;&#039;&#039;waking&quot; individuals there is definite movement in alignment with these ideas confirming to me I am not the only one feeling it. That being said, with everyone&#039;s input the energy directed toward the question will surely uncover the truth. With seemingly new info coming in everyday, the picture constantly evolving, it does appear to happen in a progressive manner as we are able to recieve and integrate the energies. So I am at this point recluctant to make a defining assessment other than it seems the wave is linear, but not. Because awareness is now, and now is the only time to experience something or no-thing nonlinear in nature.&nbsp; And to add about anticipating, it puts you out of touch with the awareness of now which would be why anyone might miss it. Out of frequency with energy of the wave. But, my god I hope we have time to prepare. LOL! Ah yes! The paradox!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Intriguing!&nbsp; About the yellow tint...This is something I&#039;ve experienced as well, but never really thought it about it much.&nbsp; Mostly observations of golden tinting effect indoors.&nbsp; Also have had dreams involving the &quot;yellow people&quot;.&nbsp; Not yellow as in Asian, but a pale distinct yellow coloring with humanoid looking beings, female and male as well.&nbsp; My sister and niece have also had dreams with the &quot;yellow people&quot; as well.&nbsp; Do not remember the specifics/details, but there was no sense of foreboding/fear/discomfort with these beings.&nbsp; Can only recall having a face to face conversation with them-but seemingly brief and without words for communication sake.&nbsp; Hmm...&nbsp; Has any one else experienced such?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2004 21:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>lyra,</p><p>I can&#039;t believe it, I was at that particular session and didn&#039;t even remember about it!&nbsp; DOH!&nbsp; I had remembered asking about Silvia Brown at a session, but not the yellow light thing. </p><p>LOL!!!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2004 23:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi all, </p><p>Really quick I wanted to post this because Audendove asked about it earlier, and I was at work and so didn&#039;t have access to the C&#039;s transcripts.&nbsp; &nbsp;Now that I&#039;m home, I found what I was looking for.&nbsp; This was in relation to seeing things in a yellowish colored tint when in 4th density or in a residual 4th density state while here in 3rd.&nbsp; &nbsp;Audenove mentioned experiencing the yellow colored tint as a kid, and I know that aside from my old apartment / room having a slightly distorted yellow color to it when paranormal stuff was happening, I&#039;ve also seen it in the couple of flashes of memories I have of abductions. (MILABS, not &quot;alien&quot;)&nbsp; &nbsp;There&#039;s at least two memories I have offhand where I&#039;m sitting in a chair in a passive, (probably drugged) daze, and I&#039;m looking down at my left arm, scratching slowly, in a daze, at the area over the elbow bend because it itches.&nbsp; &nbsp;Something was done to that area, and now I&#039;m itching it and a rash is appearing.&nbsp; &nbsp;(after I remembered this the morning after the abduction, I looked down at my left elbow/arm and wouldn&#039;t you know it....there was a spotty rash in that exact spot.&nbsp; So it definately happened.)&nbsp; Well the lighting there, wherever it is, is distinctly yellow.&nbsp; &nbsp;Everything has a very prominant yellowed tint to it.&nbsp; Another abduction memory it&#039;s the same thing.&nbsp; Yellowed color to the whole thing.&nbsp; &nbsp;Based on the way &quot;they&quot; operate, I find it very easy to believe they&#039;re working either in / with 4D.&nbsp; From what I&#039;ve seen, they DEFINATELY aren&#039;t using 3rd density technology, that&#039;s for sure.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>Anyway, here&#039;s the excerpt, in case anybody&#039;s interested, from January 7, 1995: (I even included the stuff that came after the part about the yellow, just because it&#039;s so interesting and fits perfectly with the topic of this thread):&nbsp; </p><p>---------------</p><p><strong>Q: (J) Going back to the event of this morning, when J*** related his experience of it to me, he said that when he opened his eyes that the light looked yellow... (V) I noticed the discoloration too... (J) Was that related to the event? <br />A: Yes. <br />Q: (J) What caused the light to change color? <br />A: Leftover 4th density effects. <br />Q: (L) Is this something that is going to be happening more and more as we move to 4th density? <br />A: Yes. </strong><br />Q: (L) Is this electromagnetic charging of the atmosphere, I am assuming that is what it is, and that it is occurring as part of the shifting of densities... <br />A: Yes. <br />Q: (L) If it is an electromagnetic charging of the atmosphere, is this charging coming about because of this oncoming wave and effects that we are beginning to feel more and more of, are they part of the wave, its presence or approach? <br />A: It is a buildup, similar to the early effects preceding the arrival of a sea wave. <br />Q: (T) Are the extremely high winds they have been experiencing in North Carolina and California and the earthquakes in Japan all related to this? <br />A: Yes. <br />Q: (T) Yes. The media is playing that down... 140 mile an hour winds up in the Carolina&#039;s and out in California they were hitting 160 miles an hour winds. (L) Well, they told us we were going to have really weird weather. (T) There was another earthquake in Japan today. This has been ongoing for the last couple of weeks. Japan is supposed to go. (V) Sylvia Brown was on a talk show. Sylvia Brown is known as a highly aware psychic. How do you feel about her psychic <br />abilities? <br />A: Okay. <br />Q: (V) She had said that there was going to be a big earthquake in Alaska... a huge one... what can you tell us about this? <br />A: One of many events of the buildup lasting years, as you measure time. </p><p>-----------</p><p>Pretty cool.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2004 22:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m with you on that one seeker. The C&#039;s did suggest &quot;anticipate not&quot;. Coming from my own experience, the biggest shifts or realizations have occurred when I wasn&#039;t looking for them. Rather when I was being where I was at and participating in that moment and paying attention to that. I have lots of thoughts on this whole matter and I am grateful that I have a group to share them with. I will have to get back later, though, as I have critters to tend, but my, my I&#039;m going to bust.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2004 22:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Christine B. wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Another possibility is:&nbsp; &quot;Knowledge protects&quot;</p></blockquote></div><p>Yet another possibility is: &quot;Anticipation avoids&quot; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>Here&#039;s what I mean: More than one channeled source has said that when you anticipate an event, results don&#039;t come about as you expect. And it seems the more you anticipate certain results, the more the results are totally unlike what you expected. Now consider all these scenarios that were being discussed: harmonic convergance, planetary alignment, Y2K disaster, etc. What&#039;s the common factor between all of them? They were all being heavily anticipated with specific expectations in mind. So the events didn&#039;t come about as they were hyped up to be.</p><p>Well then, what&#039;ll happen when we&#039;re all sitting around anticipating a huge shift and it doesn&#039;t seem to be manifesting? Maybe we&#039;re anticipating/expecting too much. I&#039;ve actually had a recurring dream about anticipating the 4th density shift. The message was always the same: anticipating the &#039;wave&#039; will severely hinder your progress and will not help you shift at all. The last time I had this dream was a bit diturbing. It was a &#039;final warning&#039; which said, if I don&#039;t stop anticipating the &#039;wave&#039; I won&#039;t experience it at all. Yikes. Well I stopped having those dreams a while ago, so I&#039;m not sure if I &#039;got the message&#039; or not.</p><p>Just thought I&#039;d throw that idea out there.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>lyra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>So...what if there is no Wave / Shift?&nbsp; &nbsp;What if it&#039;s all a psy-ops experiment?&nbsp; I do have to consider this when looking at my preconceived ideas which influence my views on reality.</p></blockquote></div><p> </p><p>Oh my, my, my, but I&#039;ve also wondered as much, much to my distaste, that&#039;s why as I mentioned on the &quot;Independent Worlds&quot; page I push my consciousness to look beyond everything I know, even the channeled material, even the C&#039;s.&nbsp; Do I want to believe that the C&#039;s, and others, are all about a psy-ops experiment?&nbsp; Heck no!&nbsp; Yet one practicing &quot;outside of the box&quot; discernment would be remiss to dismiss such an idea as not at least plausible... though I&#039;d sure hate to try and apply some kind of probablility value to it, because really it boils down to an all or nothing prospect.&nbsp; </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>lyra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>And if that&#039;s the case, and these events are passing by without fanfare on this particular timeline, then why is that?</p></blockquote></div><p>Maybe because the timeline we&#039;re on is approaching more order and less chaos... kinda like approaching that more even playing ground the C&#039;s talked about.&nbsp; Maybe with energetic growth and little shifts of consciousness we get &quot;bumped up&quot; to more congenial timelines/dimensions... and this could be one reason why we have &quot;life is but a dream&quot; moments.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2004 20:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Another possibility is:&nbsp; &quot;Knowledge protects&quot; </p><p>Using Y2K as one scenario where the knowledge possibly protected, there was so much fanfare from straight work from companies fixing their computers, cities doing the same etc and then people preparing with food, survival camps, land etc ... and &quot;nothing&quot; happened.</p><p>So ... I propose that the possibility of being aware and planning (as much as possible) for various events causes them to pass without the predicted disaster.</p><p>The esoteric &quot;reason&quot; being that the knowledge by many changes the vibration of the happening OR the many rise above the happening and therefore the happening occurs but as Lyra posited in another timeline.</p><p>Christine B.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2004 19:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Here&#039;s an idea..................</p><p>What if there IS no Wave???</p><p>What if the C&#039;s just told us what we needed to hear to illicit a response / behavior from us which otherwise would not have happened??? </p><p>I don&#039;t fully believe this, but I have thought about it, of course!&nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" />&nbsp; &nbsp;Reason being, I read the book &quot;The Stargate Conspiracy&quot; last year which details the government infiltration / influence in the New Age channeling scene over the past 30 years (among many other things it gets into) and it made me question much of what we&#039;ve learned via channeling and accepted as fact.&nbsp; &nbsp;I know I&#039;ve mentioned this before on the forum months back, but it fits here so I&#039;ll mention it again.&nbsp; &nbsp;So...what if there is no Wave / Shift?&nbsp; &nbsp;What if it&#039;s all a psy-ops experiment?&nbsp; I do have to consider this when looking at my preconceived ideas which influence my views on reality.&nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>I think it is safe to say though that reality is definately not what they tell us it is, and the values that they try to get us to adhere to are bunk.&nbsp; That much I know is true.&nbsp; If nothing else, I know at least that!&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />&nbsp; </p><p>So many interesting theories and ideas have been mentioned here --&nbsp; a 3rd density overlay on top of 4th density.........the effects of the A bomb (and hydrogen bomb which is even worse) on this reality..........realms splitting and people becoming empty shells in your reality.....This is all connects back to the ideas presented in the &quot;Life is but a dream&quot; thread, and even the new &quot;Schizophrenia&quot; thread.&nbsp; &nbsp; So much brain candy!&nbsp; &nbsp; I love this stuff.&nbsp; This sure beats what I do at work in between reading this forum!&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" />&nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>One thing that Palulukon wrote which really stuck out for me more than anything is the idea of important events that have been predicted and / or hyped up coming.......... and then going without so much as a peep.&nbsp; &nbsp;She mentioned the planetary alignment thing (the one in 1999 I presume), which I remember.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;She also mentioned all the martial law, concentration camps, boxcars, and total NWO lockdown which have failed to come to pass.&nbsp; (thank god.....I&#039;m not wishing for THAT).&nbsp; &nbsp; Another one is Y2K (!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!&nbsp; Y2K!!!!!!!!!!!&nbsp; AHHHHHH) which also comes to mind.&nbsp; &nbsp;Came and went without a peep either.&nbsp; But like Palulukon, I&#039;ve noticed this and wondered.......what&#039;s going on? </p><p>Are these events really coming and going without fanfare?&nbsp; &nbsp;Or is it only on <strong>this</strong> timeline that they do?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>And if that&#039;s the case, and these events are passing by without fanfare on this particular timeline, then why is that?&nbsp; &nbsp;Why are we on a timeline which isn&#039;t getting whomped with bad stuff?&nbsp; &nbsp;(not complaining, but I do wonder why this is).&nbsp; What are the implications of this when we read between the lines?&nbsp; (again, assuming this is the case.)</p><p>Food for thought!&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2004 19:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating discussion...I&#039;ve wondered that as well, whether the Wave has already passed. If I look at all the evidence, then I don&#039;t think the peak of the Wave has passed yet - however, the Wave would have an increasing onset, perhaps a leading edge that rises like the tide before the actual tidal wave, and I think this is what we&#039;re seeing now. Those closer to shore will face high water sooner than those more inland, so there&#039;s a difference in timing between the level of effect experienced.</p><p>My thoughts on the Wave are as follows: the C&#039;s define it as a &quot;realm border wave&quot; - meaning a wave that will bring with it a crossing of the border between one realm of experience and another. Realms are like radio stations, determined by a particular frequency and holding a particular range or flavor of experiences. So the Wave brings with it a change of station, or perhaps a change going from &quot;radio&quot; to &quot;TV&quot; type station.</p><p>Realms can be very closely bound with only minor differences, like the realm of people who are equally physical to each other but don&#039;t have the same theme of life experiences or learning lessons. Or, realms can be very different, like beings in alternate realities or timelines who don&#039;t interact with us directly by default. </p><p>If the Wave has a leading edge, then we should first be experiencing minor realm separations. This would lead up to an eventual &quot;total realm split&quot; when the Wave peaks. I think this explains what&#039;s happening now. A minor realm separation between you and another would mean that each of you begin sharing fewer and fewer experiences with each other - basically a parting of ways. This is marked by increased differences in viewpoints, lifestyle, etc... -- basically, the polarization phenomenon.&nbsp; </p><p>As time goes on, I think this can only increase -- birds of a feather flocking together, leaving those who no longer have a needed place in their realm. That starts getting into the &quot;switching timelines and leaving behind a shell&quot; idea -- if your realm is separating from the majority of those around you, then what you see of them in your reality is just a faint echo of their true selves. </p><p>And were the realm separation to increase even more, eventually you could have total timeline splits between sections of the population, entire masses experiencing different future earth scenarios. </p><p>In the end, it may conclude with not only a 3D timeline split, but an actual <em>density</em> split between those who choose 3D versus thus who choose 4D. </p><p>As this all goes on, the veil continues to thin, and so increased UFO sightings, ghost sightings, synchronicities, reality malleability, etc... should become manifest. That&#039;s happening already. The question is, whether we have passed the peak, or whether the peak is yet to come. Well, as far as I can tell, grays and reptilians are still invisible when they choose to be, so that means they are on one side of the veil and I am still on the other...meaning I haven&#039;t crossed over yet.&nbsp; If the divisions between 3D and 4D are fuzzy rather than sharp, then whether we&#039;re upper 3D or lower 4D would be a matter of perspective.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2004 18:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Geez, that was so long ago (linear) for me…one group,&nbsp; &nbsp;the Conclave, will have to recall the group name, should have something around here…and then Bashar…who might not be considered so reputable since Bashar said the greys were our friends and the hybrids were humankind with the greys in the future blending the best of both races HELLO,&nbsp; but in a lot of the early Bashar some damn good information came out…as is with all channelings, some good stuff, the hook and inter dispersed with misinformation eventually with the channel going south lol…some of Barbara M’s but can’t recall just what, Nostradamus,&nbsp; Michael stuff, Joseph stuff…list goes on.&nbsp; Hopefully someone in this discussion can add more.&nbsp; Channeling was happening so frequently in the late 70’s and early 80’s.&nbsp; Much of it transforming information which certainly opened a lot of us to expanded perspectives.&nbsp; There was one book, to serve earth, something like that… very powerful at the time.&nbsp; There was at one point where all the planets were going to align and all indications pointed to this was it…and we all anticipated it for years.&nbsp; Day came and went and nothing.&nbsp; So fairy dust was sprinkled over the event.</p><p>TV was invented in my life time and I remember getting our first TV, must have been about 4, maybe 3.&nbsp; They showed the A bomb test, remember hearing words like beautiful, will stop all wars etc…and thinking no beautiful…and duly upset at the tremendous ability to annihilate.&nbsp; Which brings up something thook and I were just discussing…with all the bombing since 91 in Afghanistan, and look up the totals, mind boggling, why is ANYONE, and we will be conservative, in a 500 mile radius, is even alive, let alone a 1000 mile radius, or anyone on the European continent for that matter.&nbsp; How are ANY babies being born much less normal(yes we know the rise in deformities), and that animals are still alive?&nbsp; We are talking MASSIVE amounts of radiation, MASSIVE.&nbsp; May just be luck of the draw, but certainly in conflict to what I have seen about radiation toxicity.&nbsp; Is it an indicator of the 3d hologram super imposed on the 4d hologram construct…have not a clue.&nbsp; But we certainly do wonder…hummm.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2004 16:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>palulukon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The reason I wonder is… there was lots of info to support this transition coming several decades before now, and subsequent dates there after, supported by multiple channelings.&nbsp; The dates come and go without the expected event, so a spiritual meaning is applied to the date.</p></blockquote></div><p>Hi palulukon,</p><p>As I am very interested in channeled material, observing such for its validity and source, and the dynamic of the various channelors, it would be a fun study for me to look at these past channelings/channelors that predicted a transition/shift time well before now.&nbsp; Can you drop any names or group names so that I may research them? Or does anybody else know?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2004 16:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Auendove wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If I was to make my best educated guess based on my experiences and various channeled inflow I would conjecture that this statement is false and the wave hasn&#039;t pulled through yet....&nbsp; &nbsp;If this were true wouldn&#039;t that bring every channeled source into suspect, not to mention the Mayans, because there&#039;s a date/s forecasted beyond our present time for when the wave will occur?... this then infer that the channeled sources are directly influenced by &quot;Darcos&quot; in an effort to confound us into believing we haven&#039;t yet arrived to our evolutionary rung on the ladder?</p><p>And, alas...ssppfhhh!, one also has to consider that everything is happening all at once... and that would be the fly in the ointment inside the Pandora Box, now wouldn&#039;t it? <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>I am not by any means sure the wave has already come…but when you consider simultaneous time then do dates really matter? 70 years give or take is less than a blink in universal time. In every channeled thing I read the entity being questioned will skirt the definite time issue.&nbsp; The reason I wonder is… there was lots of info to support this transition coming several decades before now, and subsequent dates there after, supported by multiple channelings.&nbsp; The dates come and go without the expected event, so a spiritual meaning is applied to the date.&nbsp; I would like to believe that the wave is coming and will come at the expected date.&nbsp; This is my preference absolutely.&nbsp; It is only if I am willing to research the other possibility that I will know.&nbsp; Don’t know how to research it but know also that clues will come.&nbsp; The old saying you already know the answer; it is the question you have to figure out.&nbsp; </p><p>The A bomb would indicate a quantum leap so naturally to wonder…and that dobbs was able to predict, or so I read, the Berlin Wall within days of it coming down.&nbsp; Then too the correlations in the Matrix movie.&nbsp; Was thinking about Matrix two last night.&nbsp; We had heard it was a bust so waited to get it on video.&nbsp; Was so bored I fell asleep.&nbsp; &nbsp;Was on a real rant about the cheap shots etc, the lack of congruity.&nbsp; Here they have all this&nbsp; sophisticated technology, the command center, but to open the doors this archaic mass of wheels etc and the population acting like they had just come out of the jungle with all their dances reflecting base primitive sexual nuances and running around in jungle garb in contrast to the attire of command central.&nbsp; Ha, had to laugh last night, the movie was actually very accurate….here with all this technology and the populations still acting like a bunch of primitives.&nbsp; And yes, all the tech at command center but to open the door still using cumbersome outdated means.&nbsp; </p><p>And again on the channeling…seems to be some unwritten code that the entity sharing information cannot share more than is already “suspected“?…like they cannot say something that will be so altering it will interfere with a natural course of events, sto anyway.&nbsp; Think how mind boggling it would have been if the c’s had said hey, guess what, this wave passed through and you are all in 4d and the reptilians are projecting a 3d hologram to keep the indigenous race centered in a negative polarity so go out and tell everyone that will listen.&nbsp; This is just exploring a possible reality…and it is just exploring.&nbsp; There are some things we have to “discover“? for ourselves.&nbsp; I know that if I am willing to ask questions that seem absurd to me&nbsp; it is the only way I will get answers.&nbsp; I hope the answer is the wave is still “coming“?.&nbsp; But I cannot ignore the question has it already come…that is all.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: the wave has already come, possibility]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well, everything “seems“? very normal today, more normal than recent.&nbsp; I awaken early feeling fairly rested, unusual, and ck on a sick puppy, baby ducks, newly arrived sugar glider, make tea, walk outside…everything seems to feel very 3d…and the tape playing in the back ground “now, don’t you feel silly making all that fuss, see, it is 3d and the wave is coming and 4d has not happened yet.&nbsp; &nbsp;See how everything is the same, see how solid everything feels?“?&nbsp; Interesting as this was the same tape that played in the background after I read the c’s for the first time, silly girl, reptiles, op’s.&nbsp; I mean, it looks soooooooooo normal.&nbsp; Vanilla sky.&nbsp; </p><p>I had a convo with my kindred last night.&nbsp; He is playing with if he is connected to the totality of who he is and of the love of source then even tho strange and chaotic things are going on around him it has nothing to do with him.&nbsp; Yes, he knows&nbsp; in a universal sense he is connected, but in a today sense the best he can do for humanity is to manifest the wholeness of his being.&nbsp; I do understand, and did play with those cards at one time.&nbsp; He has connected with some people and is learning a technique, is it the pea, or pet process…where&nbsp; you define your story, that is not you but your story, find the cores and collapse the polarities.&nbsp; The effect is to clean the mind field.&nbsp; It sounds identical to the avatar material I was heavily involved with at one time.&nbsp; However, my kindred feels this material is special and has the potential to do what others have not been able to do.&nbsp; I shared that whenever I got into processing it did some amazing things for awhile but reached a point where it looped.&nbsp; He agreed, having been there himself, but believes this modality is different.&nbsp; Remains to be seen, as it is new to him.&nbsp; I do know that every time I found a new modality it was believed it was different some how.&nbsp; I hope for my kindred’s that he is right.&nbsp; He is not finding the need to address the 4d reptilians at this time.&nbsp; Again, always to respect another’s path.&nbsp; There are times I half wish I did not address the issue; ignorance is bliss as they say.&nbsp; However, ultimately I would rather know than not know.&nbsp; All my life I have wanted to know.&nbsp; It has been the driving force.&nbsp; </p><p>When I read the experience from the above link (Soloflecks) I go god, I hope that does not happen to me anytime soon…and realize the necessity to work on shoring up this free will thing, focus of attention and any other tools in the bag to deal with such.&nbsp; The Twilight Zone was one of my favorite programs as a child.&nbsp; About 11 years ago I had an obe that resembled the TZ; the episode where the man found himself in a town where there was no one.&nbsp; </p><p>If we take this to other levels and incorporate all that we have read there is an underlying theme that we are in truth alone here in a matrix, a maze, and like the rats that are experimented on must find our way through the maze.&nbsp; Reading the link from above wonder if the addictive colored drinks are a way to keep us rats from finding our way out, duh.</p><p>Also brought up with my kindred why would we think we are the top of the food chain…still amazes me that idea persist.</p><p>Anyway, very NORMAL day…hum…today is town day so will be keeping my eyes, ears and feelers open…am going to write Dobbs hopefully tonight and will report back to you all.&nbsp; It is so wonderful there is a place to share these types of explorations.&nbsp; I think now the next thing that would be in order is finding a way to identify&nbsp; the cracks in the matrix.&nbsp; We have all known this is a hologram.&nbsp; What I am questioning now is it a 3d or 4d hologram.&nbsp; Perhaps I have not had more success in seeing how the hologram is projected because I have been looking through a 3d interpretation.&nbsp; Not sure, just wondering.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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