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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ramblings to accompany the falling snow]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The first step is out of the way.&nbsp; The being completely honest with self.&nbsp; I&#039;m certainly not in a position to give advice but I could tell you what I would do.</p><p>I would start identifing every aspect I found that I wished to change.&nbsp; I would not add negative connotations to anything I found.&nbsp; That just adds weight and makes it harder to tranmute the thing.&nbsp; No judgement just identification and the wish to create something new within self.&nbsp; And that did make it easier for the things that I have and still do work on about self.&nbsp; That is wanting to create something new and not necessarily wanting to get rid of something.</p><p>With the parents thing, I would add a thought guard that would wake me up whenever those thoughts came.&nbsp; I would also watch for the associated feeling.&nbsp; Then I would make a mental note of the thought, situation that caused it, and the associated feeling.</p><p>I wouldn&#039;t try to stop the thoughts/situations/feelings (TSF) right away.&nbsp; I would only become more and more aware of them.&nbsp; Like a treasure hunt I would seek out every last one.&nbsp; I would examine them all thoroughly.</p><p>This process automatically made it easier to start seeing these slightly before they actually happened.&nbsp; By the act of objective scruity one ensures a disconnect of emotion that takes the charge (bite) out of the TSF.&nbsp; This makes it less attached to self.&nbsp; Add this with being able to see slightly before the TSF happens and you can, in a calm nonchalant manner, choose to create a new reaction not born of wanting to get rid of anything but simply the want to create new and experience more of self.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[z3n3rg]]></name>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: ramblings to accompany the falling snow]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>tengberg, we all are a product of our childhood. Our parents can have a great impact on who we are as adults.&nbsp; But that isnt always a bad thing. Although my father wasnt the greatest father in the world, he&#039;s still a great guy.&nbsp; I found myself many times saying things to my kids, that he said to me when I was a kid.&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/hmm.png" width="15" height="15" alt="hmm" /> Kids dont come with instruction manuals. And I know my father raised me with the parental skills that he learned from his parents. He did the best he could. Just as I have done.&nbsp; Im not going to sit here and resent my dad for all the crappy things he did to me. That&#039;s water over the falls. Has nothing to do with my life now.&nbsp; My son went thru a period of asking me &quot;why did you do this&quot; and &quot;why did you say that to me&quot; and &quot;that really messed with my head&quot;. I could only answer at times that I was sorry, and yes maybe that was the wrong thing to say at that time. Nobody&#039;s perfect,&nbsp; we all make mistakes, and use poor judgment at times, according to whats going on in our environment. I tried my best. Get over it, move on.&nbsp; Would it really hurt you to shovel snow for your folks? Maybe they feel uncomfortable asking neighbors, knowing they have a perfectly capable son in the area.&nbsp; Dont be so sure those people you think are, &quot;their own persons&quot; arent going thru the same things in their heads as you are.&nbsp; At 50yrs of age, I still occasionally hear my dad&#039;s voice in the back of my head. Sometimes I listen, sometimes I dont!&nbsp; The thing is, here and there my dad had good advice, and I wish I had listened at times.&nbsp; &nbsp;Im sure your folks have only your best interest at heart. I have a daughter your age who is married and has kids. I cringe a lot at some of her decisons. But I keep my mouth shut, and only give advice when asked. Its very difficult not saying anything at times, believe me! I have to keep in mind its her life and her choices. And yes its hurts if my kids dont call me on my birthday!!&nbsp; &nbsp;Dont be so hard on yourself. Im sure you are not a scumbag, otherwise this all wouldnt be bothering you.&nbsp; You really didnt say what kind of relationship you have with your parents.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[treehugger]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-03-03T14:04:31Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[ramblings to accompany the falling snow]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>so, today i have been thinking of who i am.&nbsp; i notice my self exhibiting the traits and tics of my parents, and that sort of...distresses me?&nbsp; &nbsp;i find my self saying what my father would say in a situation, or reacting like my mother would.&nbsp; then the second after i speak or react, i think &quot;man, what the hell?&nbsp; that&#039;s not how i wanted it to go.&nbsp; that&#039;s not how i really feel.&quot;&nbsp; but by then it&#039;s too late, the transaction has ended and my part has been played out.&nbsp; so i remind my self to keep mindful of my self and my thoughts.&nbsp; </p><p>i look in the mirror and see my father&#039;s eyes and my mother&#039;s nose.&nbsp; my grandfather&#039;s receding and thinning hairline that morphs into my father&#039;s haircut.&nbsp; i drive my car and notice i hold the wheel like my father.&nbsp; i don&#039;t laugh aloud, because it sounds like my mother&#039;s laugh and would sound too feminine, although the people i laugh around don&#039;t know my mother so it wouldn&#039;t matter, right?&nbsp; <br />i tried too hard to not be my parents, deliberately doing things i knew they would disapprove of.&nbsp; yeah, i know, that&#039;s what teenage angst and rebellion is all about, but see, when i was a teenager i wanted to talk back to them and act like a &quot;normal&quot; teenager, but i knew they would be upset with me, so i kept it inside.&nbsp; then i started drinking and it came out in violent outbursts at my friends, who really weren&#039;t my friends, but people who kept me around to entertain them with my childishness and drunkenness.<br />by the time i started to assert my self, it was too late.&nbsp; my mother would say, &quot;do what you want, you&#039;re x years old, i can&#039;t stop you.&quot;&nbsp; great.&nbsp; thanks mom.&nbsp; they never encouraged me to pursue anything and told me &quot;you don&#039;t want to do that&quot;, but now, i&#039;m still looking for their approval and no matter what i do they are still at the back of my mind.&nbsp; it&#039;s strange, when i read or watch a movie i observe the characters and think &quot;hey, it&#039;s them acting, not their parents.&nbsp; hank rearden is his own man, tyler durden does what he wants (sort of), joel parrish acts on his own....&quot;&nbsp; &nbsp;<br />yes, i know, they are fictional characters, but you get my point i hope.&nbsp; it&#039;s the same when i wait on customers or am out with friends; they are their own persons, but i hear my parents&#039; voices before my own thoughts.&nbsp; even now, one of them will call me and ask me to come over and shovel snow.&nbsp; even though they have neighbors that would do it for them.&nbsp; what if i lived in a different state?&nbsp; then what would they do?&nbsp; <br />listen to me.&nbsp; i sound like such a heel, don&#039;t i?&nbsp; i&#039;m supposed to be the good son.&nbsp; but is that all that i am?&nbsp; all that i will ever be? <br />what about me?&nbsp; is that being &quot;selfish&quot;?&nbsp; what&#039;s wrong with wanting my own life?</p><p>okay.&nbsp; now, i am going to go and shave and shower because i feel and look like a scumbag.&nbsp; <br />i wish you all the best and maybe i&#039;ll get some sort of response and we can talk about this thing.</p><p>-ERT</p><p>so now i&#039;m thirty-1 and still going through periodic episodes of teen angst; it&#039;s no wonder i feel like i&#039;m going crazy.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[tengberg]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-03-02T19:53:02Z</updated>
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