Wisdom is *hardly* the sole measure of a person's virtue.. for one could have wisdom, and yet still make poor choices.. per the perrogative of free will.. to a point... therefore, knowledge is what separates those who are wise and good from those who are wise and evil.. knowledge is what defines one as who one truly is, from an ego position of HigherSelf/soul synthesis for this life and beyond (meaning HigherSelf and soul is the same thing, the terms are interchangeable.. and it is precisely your wisdom as defined by your understanding, it is your knowledge.. plus memory etc if you can)... this is the path of knowledge, of harmonious equilibrium of balance between understanding (which is conventional, in terms of concepts) and wisdom (which is fundamental, in terms of realization/intuition).. case in point, it is utterly absurd to say that one "possesses" wisdom for his or her own self... similarly is it impossible to hoard power.. it is always only ever a matter not of how much power or wisdom one may attain but rather of how much one may *handle*.. and in this sense is knowledge power and power responsibility.

So if you are in the process of "discovering" me, then I should tell you that I have just the other day realized that I have been lied to for a very long time, that I am right smack dab in the middle of an extraordinarily powerful (and evil) Theocratic Band.. so please, send help.. that is, people to listen to what I have to say and to give me advice for IRL.. Namaste.. and via PM.. for *SECURITY* reasons..

"The extent to which one obtains wisdom is the extent to which one transcends one's ego"
~~Dr. William Guillory Ph.D

There are several competing interpretations of origional sin. While the modern church uses it as a convenient means of suppressing women with cherrypicked dogma, there are admirers of the notion that Eve's decision to eat the apple of knowledge represented a desire for greater potential of the human form.

Consider what god (the demiurge in this case) said: Obey me, don't eat this fruit, and you will live forever in this garden in blissful ignorance. (choose to live within the boundaries that I make for you, never questioning them - this is the mindset of animals in relation to their creator) Eat it and you will gain the knowledge of good and evil, but you will surely die. (creating an opportunity for growth via resistance, ultimately leading to enlightenment and transcendence of the 3D form)

From this it seems that our (human) ability to make a rational choice over instinct is what not only sets us apart from the animal kingdom, but it also encompasses what some would call "origional sin."

So my question is this: Are you equating the notion of origional sin with the idea of divergence from an overtly restrictive orthodoxy? In this case, the ability to possess consciousness and the ability to choose your own destiny?

Now I have a question... is not everything water in essence... and fire is the original kindling agent? Consciousness, pure evil, is the original sin. And this is a very good thing, because consciousness evolves.

Oh, is the careful carpenter then yourself or otherwise a person? As opposed to God?

Who heals the healers?

STS... self.. Self.. All... STS and STO overlap in simultaneous oneness and difference.

Not saying that all energy drainers are "evil" but I'd wager that the vast majority of STS activity falls within that catagory and not the other way around. Ultimately, the only way for something to be "completely evil" would be for it to enter into a deeply negative energy cycle, completely forget itself, and then devolve into something which acts upon instinct exclusively. Not very glamorous, but to an outside observer, it would make absolutely no sense to interact with it.

-3G

ps: The nothing at all catagory belongs on the inside of everything at once and outside of both at the same time. I think you have to pass through the illusion of void to see through the cracks leading to enlightenment on the other side.

First I would like to preface this with a bit of a rant... to all you out there who think you are walking the path of enlightenment.. and who think that "they" have set this path up in the past, Eastern spirituality and all now dictating how to walk it in Western society.. well news flash, I seem to be the only one actually coming to *NEW* Truths... we should all be striving for this... if you seek to cultivate your wisdom.. why am I the only light around here?.. this is the dawn of a new age.. 2012 n all... and I am the only modern mystic about?...... Ridiculous!.. how many of you think that "the old ways" still apply, so that's why you aren't doing anything new, why you aren't standing out?.. well the old ways, in case you haven't noticed, have decayed into serious perversity and decadence for a while now... so time to refresh things up with the same old thing again and even better this time!... This is a call to arms, take up your pens and typing fingers.. and pick up your wits moreover and keep them about you. I'm waiting for y'all to rise up...

Now then.

The case for evil is that it is an absolutely necessary element of universal creation in terms of universal procession. Many an astral war has been fought because one side was convince--tricked into thinking--that they were pure evil. Can pure evil even ever exist in the first place? Everything is shades of grey, of the light. Pure evil does not exist. However, we *still* forget that the good/evil duality is hardly absolute perspective... because in essence, everything is simultaneously good... and simultaneously evil.. that is, everything is consciousness manifest to varying degrees of subtle density.. and everything is Maya... we need to fill all the place-holders for the formula to work. One, two, neither, both, everything at the same time, and nothing at all. Who's still with me?.. consciousness is individuation of spirit... spirit is fundamental.. consciousness is conventional.. spirit is pure goodness/unity... consciousness is pure evil/diversity/illusion/Maya. Consciousness begins as pure evil, as the most basic state is that which is most simple, and it is so utterly *simple* to be purely evil. So Everything is evil and Nothing is good, get it?... does anyone understand?