Starling, you're right, it is a good idea to think about how you CAN help and in the same way help yourself. I get very frustrated because I would like to feel as though I am of MORE help to people, and not just for example setting up computer accounts for them and feeling like we are on different levels. But it is all about patience too. I also know a lot of people really mean well but just have gotten such out-of-whack education or parenting or whatever, they may have a lot of "deprogramming" to work through. I don't want to let my frustration make me feel as though there is NOTHING I can do, I want to find ways to reach people who are different from me and share with them in an open way. Little steps. You never know what will make the difference, maybe just smiling at strangers more can help.

At least we can all chat with each other on NR. Thanks for letting me speak my mind
Tim

So all that misery they defend themselves against on the outside is also what they defend themselves against on the inside. What is not allowed to be true inside, does not exist outside as well. See, what i am getting at? I think that the whole new age mentality is a mask, a mask made of fear & hatred, but "sunny happy" people would never confess the fact, that on the iside they are just little wicked trolls, false to the core. I believe that is what i do not like about the whole crowd.

Yes, anytime you try to hide your Shadow it always becomes obvious. But not all of them. In my experience the "new age" crowd has about the same proportion of good and bad as the so-called "masses". The new-age baddies are just more spectacular than the average street punk.

A good point and thanks Tim. I'm going to start my daily practice with a "lost mode" that I meet more folks who are awake, independent and kindly souls and who I can help and can help me advance.

That seems a little elitist (the masses can't possibly know anything true

The masses can know all sorts of things, what with the massive information over-load we've been subjected to for the past several decades! What the masses end up focusing on is another story.

Everyone on this board was at one time "part of the masses" and of course we all still are to a great degree, especially in the eyes of the controlling powers. There are now literally hundreds of channeled and New Age-oriented books (do a search on Ebay for "New Age lot" under books, its amazing), and many of them have different spins on the history of the world, the source of consciousness, the structuring of extra-dimensional realms, the nature of evil/polarities, the subtle/energy/etheric body anatomy, etc. If you are even able to wade through all the garbage that "the masses" are given by mainstream TV, newspapers, internet etc... and then wade through all the insane "conspiracy theory" mishmosh of disinfo/misinfo/real-info to get a sense that there is something going on here besides the 5-sense level of reality.... and then move through the New Age entrapping belief systems telling you to psychically connect with the Greys or St. Germaine or Kali or whoever else, or dedicate yourself to bringing in Sanat Kumara to bring peace to the world, or spend all your time trying to visualize your merkaba so you can ascend into the 5th D before sh*t goes down here..... you are left standing on the outside looking at this enormous pile of tens-of-thousands of pages of "information" feeling disappointed that you still can't figure any of it out, and the best you can do is try to be detached, think positive and take steps to make your own personal life/environment around you more balanced/healthy, and keep reading. I wasn't taught a mentality like that in all my years of public education as one of "the masses", and I assume they are still not teaching people to do this now.

I think every single individual who is part of "the masses" has all the potential in the world to make this unfolding journey of consciousness. All I know is that it has been the main focus in my life for the past five+ years, whereas pretty much all the people I meet in 3D (not counting the internet/this forum) are pretty much focusing on bad TV, bad media, poison food, and religious garbage. So I guess that is pretty elitist of me, but when I live in a world where I observe few others behaving even slightly as thoughtful as myself, I am left scratching my head and hoping that eventually I will "attract" like-minded people or find a community where I can actually have a positive influence in people's lives and not just work some minimum-wage part-time job keeping their pod-people systems going.

Tim

I wish we could just cheer up and be happy, and then we would attract the like-energy to ourselves, and be surrounded by happy and cheerful people all day! Critical thought is getting us nowhere!

I'm happy that there are people with "childish" attitudes such as yours not getting roped in by any New Age dickhead with a big phoney smile and a huge bank account. Show me a poor, disabled person below the age of 30 from a non-white ethnic background going from rags and terror to abundance and joy by using the Laws Of Attraction and THEN I'll start believing its validity. Show me a success story more than just "I went from lower-middle class to upper-middle class by believing in my personal power!" Keep parading these middle-aged honky white bitches in front of me telling me "I just BELIEVED in myself and everything started to work out for me!", and see how sceptical I am. It sounds like Montel Williams talk-show material to me, and I genuinely feel compassion and sympathy for all the lives that are being thrown into disarray by these "use your power of thought manifestation to get happy and rich quick!" programming films.

Tim

The more people become aware of it, the more likely it seems that a concept is actually just an over-simplified ruse being used to deceive some section of the population

That seems a little elitist (the masses can't possibly know anything true

While I agree that it is obviously being pushed as part of some creepy agenda, that does not necessarily make it false.  TPTB are perfectly capable of using real events to further their agenda too.  Probably something on the order of eco-nazi green police state plans or something.  "We have to send you to our special halliburton built eco-villages to stop global warming" etc.

Could be false I suppose, but that is a major conspiracy to somehow involve pretty much everybody living in or even visiting the arctic (where the changes are pretty freakin' obvious and noticeable, especially to long time natives).

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I am really really suspicious of the whole mankind and mankind only is responsible for global warming. It probably is a lie by the very fact that it's become a mainstream thing. It must serve somebody's agenda in order to allow it to be mainstream.

This is often the hardest criteria of so many things that I read. The more people become aware of it, the more likely it seems that a concept is actually just an over-simplified ruse being used to deceive some section of the population. I felt this same way about What The Bleep and this new The Secret film. I feel the same way about yoga, reiki and all the mainstream "New Age"-oriented modalities purported to heal and relieve stress.

Yes. I feel the same way.
And...I know, it's so childish, but i MUST AGREE here: I hate "What The Bleep" and related...What a feckin' phoney fake... There is something about this film, not the ideas, but something else - and that something is just disgusting. But sorry, i cannot say what it is.  Maybe Fred Alan Wolf - i've never been able to take that guy seriously, i used to have some books by him...i read them and thought to myself: "What a retarded fool!"

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all the best,
X-zen.

Tim

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To my knowledge the game being played has been played before Belljar, last time we lost.

I'm not convinced on modern dating methods or any assumption that works via averages to draw conclusions as discussed.  The mammoth with food in it's mouth and other cases like it could go either way as to whether the animal froze suddenly  due to climate or situation.  Numerous reports have supported the potency of methane pollution over carbon dioxide as Barefoot Doc has mentioned.  You may note there is strong data for a decrease in conversion by forests, when the forests (the trees within) are under stress.  This may be logging, fire or other.

I agree with most of what Montalk has said.  With knowledge of changed solar activity, it should still not take away focus on our contributions.  The sun will do it's thing and we must do ours.  I'd rather the populous remains unaware of changes in solar activity as I imagine for most people, they would then have the idea "Well nothing we can do" or "So it's not us after all", promoting complacency.

On the time side, those interested may wish to check out the hydrate hypothesis.

Funny enough, Shoogie, in the HandClow book, there is a channeling by a reptilian consciousness, and it is berating us humans for messing up the environment because there is not enough WET, and HUMID SWAMPLAND for the reptiles! So actually, a desert environment is not necesarily what reptiles would like. I'll post the quote when I find it later..

Tim

I am really really suspicious of the whole mankind and mankind only is responsible for global warming. It probably is a lie by the very fact that it's become a mainstream thing. It must serve somebody's agenda in order to allow it to be mainstream.

This is often the hardest criteria of so many things that I read. The more people become aware of it, the more likely it seems that a concept is actually just an over-simplified ruse being used to deceive some section of the population. I felt this same way about What The Bleep and this new The Secret film. I feel the same way about yoga, reiki and all the mainstream "New Age"-oriented modalities purported to heal and relieve stress. The more popular something is, the more people who have heard of it... the less likely it is to actually be of any use to freedom-seekers, and the more likely it is to be an engineered deception. Observe how David Icke is now being given a "fair chance" with a new documentary on British Television "Was He Right?". Are we meant to believe that "perhaps the public is becoming more open to Icke's ideas?" Is anyone here that fancifully naive?? The public is "open" to whatever TPTB decide they will be opened to. So what's up with that?

I have been revisiting some of Barbara Hand Clowe's Pleiadian Agenda, which I bought a long time ago but never got around to as I had become very "turned off" to a lot of channeling in the past couple years. I don't have it with me to draw any quotes, but it also has a similar tone of "You humans have so ignorantly screwed up your environment, you all must work together to change it, its your fault, etc etc"

All the while, the Global Management Team (illuminati, TPTB, etc) is described as manipulating all aspects of our lives... from the DNA/biological level, to the emotional/mental level, to the spiritual level, over periods of thousands of years. It is explained how we have gotten seperated from our higher-density selves, and our energetic bodies are full of 2D elementals which are causing us to feel tremendous amounts of pain and disease. The book talks about how important it is to release the miasms of radioactivity, which is causing tremendous emotional blockages for humans. (I would like it to explain how to release these miasms by another way besides just meditating and asking for the "Sirian Federation of Light" or the "Pleiadian Healers" or any number of other beings to swoop in and bathe us in healing rays, which is basically all that Amorah Quan-Yin and Marciniak seem to be saying. I was even willing to ask them, but if shit doesn't change, I can't help but be skeptical that there is something else going on there. Did I just get myself some more negative entity attachments, thinking I was doing something positive?)

NOW, when one has been educated on the degree of manipulation and control on all aspects of our lives, how are we supposed to go from that to "Well, let's roll up our sleeves and start cleaning up the environment!" All along, when the book has been describing how humans' blocked emotions have "caused US to hurt the Earth", I cannot help but think "who is this US she is talking about?" It is nothing but the World Management Team implanting their own destructive, control-oriented desires into humans and forcing us to do their will! I can't see how the destruction of the Earth has anything to do with our free will as humans. It even presented the analogy that "You are angry when you hear about the Anunnaki eating you for food, and yet you continue to eat meat!" Well, guess what, I stopped eating meat a long time ago, for exactly those reasons not to mention others. I recycle, I conserve, I re-use. I want to make the change to a lifestyle that will be entirely sustainable to the Earth, however my personal power in this area is extremely limited. I think that people should have been making major lifestyle changes in the 60s and 70s, when there were tons of books published on the importance of sustainable agriculture, eco-building, conservation, etc. I was born in the 80s, and my parents were happy to have microwaveable "TV dinners" so we could watch StarTrek and eat off TV trays instead of having to actually talk or anything. Our culture is utterly OUT of the mindset that we need sustainability, that we need to grow our own foods instead of depending on markets, that we need to have food stored up in our cellars and supplies of fresh drinking water. It is still MY plan to do this, but without any money or community support, my plans have been placed on the backburner indefinitely, and if the power got shut-off tomorrow I would probably starve within a week.

Did you know that 70% of the grain grown in the US (and 1/3rd of the total world supply) goes to feed cattle? Someone mentioned methane emission before as contributing more to global warming, well we have an entire nation full of millions of methane-farting cows, taking up thousands of acres where we could instead be growing potentially 3X as much grains or vegetables. The cattle industry has to go before anything will be able to "turn around" environtally, but until people get over their queseomorphine addictions to the pain-relieving chemicals of dairy products, we're not gonna see ANYONE willing to make such a change.

SO what is to be done about the environment, when so much money and negative energy is working so aggresively to destabilize, rape and destroy. I appreciate that ETs such as the Pleiadians have given their assurances that "off-planet intervention" can bring new technologies that would heal and change the world in very short time frame (Messages From Matthew makes this reassurance from time to time). But obviously that is the same old "Please, we've been so good, won't someone better than us please come SAVE US now??" Which is totally a non-empowered mentality.

It seems as though we are demanded to become totally detached from the outcomes of everything we are doing, and yet it has been made extremely clear that we are in very dire, dangerous, extreme and unique circumstances. I don't assume to understand the overall agenda at all, I think all we can grasp at is these little books and documents that make their way to the public, combined with our own intuitive insights. And how good have those been so far, in terms of making a noticeable difference in the overall direction of the destructive path our Earth is on? If anything, for most of us I just see our "intuitions" guiding us from one failed modality to another, from one belief system to another, constantly trying to put together the big puzzle, never quite getting there, realizing that we've gone in circles. How many people are confusing their "intuition" for just another negative entity attachment? It seems clear that to our limited ego-mind, we cannot tell the difference, even if things feel "loving" "positive" or "uplifting" they can still be entirely negative and detrimental on a scale that we cannot perceive.

See, I'm not going to buy into that mentality and accept alien leadership. BUT, I am worried about the millions/billions of people on the planet who HAVE BEEN buying into that forever and are going to continue buying into it. What do we do about them? What does our awareness get us besides being able to see how screwed everyone is? Are we really still counting on the "hundredth-monkey" hypothesis?

Tim

Tim

I totally agree that something is fishy about all of this.