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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Masturbation]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Ive considered the danger of masturbation routinely for the last ten years probably. At times I thought it was a healthy way to release energy, other times a dangerous activity which will waste your life. The conclusion ive come to after all my experience is this: </p><br /><p>It does more harm than good. It depletes vitality, energy, and awareness. It takes your life away from you the more you do it. I would recommend to people now to abstain from it as much as they possibly can, perhaps for life. The more you preserve the energy the more growth, strength, and awareness youll have...youll live longer, healthier and youll be more productive with more to offer and give. Youll have less depression, less pain. Thats just my experience. I try not to do it at all anymore. After about a month without sex I start to feel re-energized, as if I have a vast store of energy at my disposal. I operate from abundance and not deficit, and thats better for me psychologically.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[oavada]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-04-21T14:53:19Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Masturbation is like unfinished business...<br />Not much pleasure like the real thing, and no energy exchanged, just lost...<br />But people with over energy can afford I think.<br />Well, at least is better than sex with those energy vampires OPs.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Pictus]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-04-21T06:22:51Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I went to Catholic school in my early days and they told me I would go blind if I masturbated. I asked them if I could just do it until I needed glasses.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[WEOPPOSEDECEPTION]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-04-19T03:51:56Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>We are sexual beings it&#039;s apart of us and yes it is an energy source for many. But, I doubt any of us are going to stop being sexual I don&#039;t think that would be healthy. Perhaps when you reach the state of infinite pleasure you should use it to activate your kundalini or third eye. You can focus on these when you reach your peak. Or use this massive amount of energy to project a more positive reality for earth. Doesn&#039;t have to go to waste if you are concerned about the energy going to all the wrong sources you can direct it where you want it to go. This has been my experience. </p><p><img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[belljar]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-04-19T00:10:45Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>All men posting here? Women also masturbate,&nbsp; although not often to porn I guess. I know when I accidentally discovered this pleasure as a child, there was no fantasy about it. Just pure physical pleasure, no thought whatsoever. Later I guess I got addicted to the comfort, coming from a very unloving family. When fantasy started coming into the picture, things got ugly. YES, we do draw to us what we think about, and especially during sexual activity. The problem is it is difficult to block out what may &#039;pop up&quot; in one&#039;s mind in the middle of a &quot;session&quot; no matter what one was thinking about to begin with. Seems like unwelcome stuff would come in right at the moment of orgasm, giving tremendous energy to said thoughts. A friend once told me he was watching a &quot;regular&quot; porn movie that suddenly switched to very sick and demented porn in the middle, he was devastated after, not able to stop himself. Wasn&#039;t porn actually named after a demon? Pornia is the name, I think. anyway, why masturbate if you have to use something to get aroused? Why not wait until a few short strokes while not thinking about anything will do? Yea, I know I&#039;m not a man but really, sometimes I think people use masturbation or sex as an alternative to exersize . Get a bike. Take a hike. Dance, for Pete&#039;s sake.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[4dwannabe]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-04-18T22:38:32Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Rue is also used to shut down psychic awareness.&nbsp; <br />Good for hysteria.&nbsp; Protects from astral attacks, but also<br />prevents you from picking up intuitive impressions.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Tom Paine]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-01-24T01:47:30Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><strong>From the link I post above</strong><br /><a href="http://ecoport.org/ep?Plant=18352&amp;entityType=PL****&amp;entityDisplayCategory=full">http://ecoport.org/ep?Plant=18352&amp;e … egory=full</a></p><p>Rue is a small, woody, perennial, erect and densely branched sub-shrub. The extract (of leaves and twigs) is used for medicines and the essential oil in perfumery and flavourings. It is also cultivated as an ornamental plant. It might cause dermatitis if it touches the skin. <strong>Rue has abortive effects and must not be taken during pregnancy.</strong></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Pictus]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-01-23T19:00:44Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Becareful with ruda plant...It is a plant used for abortion purposes in&nbsp; Spain in the old times..so please Pictus...inform you better...<br />happy days for all<br />Nacho</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-01-23T12:13:39Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>i just love you Blue, just do.&nbsp; i understand, completely.&nbsp; really do.&nbsp; had to say that.</p><p>oh, and i had no idea that u said the same, in turn, on that 2012 john lash thread.&nbsp; i just quickly had to say what i think of u, and ur fine work, and connectedness, after reading what u posted right above.&nbsp; see how that works?!&nbsp; so i got back in here to edit this immediately.&nbsp; we&#039;re all so synched.&nbsp; my god.&nbsp; and i loves me my tom paine, oh yes.&nbsp; and u guys are such the best.&nbsp; dont worry Blue, i got enuf energy to rally on everything, any time, altho i will get into trouble with that soon, i feel.&nbsp; i always do, runnin the mouth with goddamn opinions.&nbsp; swearing again.&nbsp; blame it on the very thing u were saying, damn menstrual cycles.&nbsp; i wanted my uterus to be made into a coin purse in the 70&#039;s.&nbsp; nice, little pouch, with a cute sweet lil zipper.&nbsp; whip it out at the store, have ppl comment...&quot; now isnt that cute, where&#039;d u get that honey?, i&#039;d like one&quot;, they said.&nbsp; if i could scrape it out, i would.&nbsp; with a rusty spoon.&nbsp; that thing has caused me more trouble than my mouth, if thats possible.&nbsp; i will shut the hell up now.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-01-21T01:57:39Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Masturbation]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I am happily married, but obviously lunar cycles restrict natural acts, and during those times I invariably &#039;suffer&#039;:D erotic dreams.</p><p>These are continual, and in the past I suffered with them, denying the urge, ( or in times past giving in to the urge all too easliy ), but now I know the menstrual cycles, I note my dreams, I know I can hold on for so long and still be quite sane.</p><p>But there comes a time (the 4th/5th day) , when a release HAS to be made (otherwise my body/mind will go apeshit), then, at (my) chosen time, I will follow the strong sexual impulse, and release, but without the usual formation of a mental thoughtform.&nbsp; Hard to desrcibe without being crude, but culminating in flaccid&nbsp; ejaculation after a sustained period of erotic erectile impluse. (Anti-climax- suck on that Lizzies he he)</p><p>It wasn&#039;t always this way. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p><p>Sorry for being crude, but this is a valid topic, and I have suffered in the past with this, and wanted to comment.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-01-20T23:21:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Masturbation]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Just thought I&#039;d mention that much has been discussed at NR about this topic in the past, here:</p><p><a href="http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=2401&amp;p=1">http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic. … 01&amp;p=1</a></p><p>May be worth a look.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-01-20T22:41:30Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ontrack24 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Interesting thread.</p><p>I remember reading about how sex with a partner, and of course, preferably in a loving relationship, can result in a sort of reciprocal charging, whereas masturbation leads to emptying as the energy is not received anywhere but more or less dissipates (or, possibly, gets snatched by energy-hunting entities?). There may very well be something to it.</p><p>Question is how to repress this &#039;natural&#039; urge, especially for a man, in a way that does not lead to unhealthy &quot;pressure cooker&quot; type build-up of unreleased sexual energy. All men not in active relationships (and with normal function of the sexual systems) will get the urge to either jack off or have (casual) sex, usually often. Bad results from not getting this relief, have been registered. I guess it&#039;s all about ones state of mind and way of thought, when it all comes to it.</p></blockquote></div><p>I think that sex with the wrong partner or in the wrong way or wrong situation can be just as draining, if not more so, than masturbation. It all depends on the energy dynamix. I can give myself an orgasm that leaves me fealing vital and clean and refreshed. And I can have an orgasm with a partner that I love and afterwards feel bitter and disgusted. When I consciously direct my sexual energy through my body, think &#039;good&#039; thoughts, and make a willful decision about whether to have an orgasm or not (at this point I generally want to only have about one per week) then I find my sexuality is very empowering and feels wonderful. </p><p>Maybe it is importend to supress the urge to masturbate or have casual sex, but I don&#039;t think it is good to supress sexual energy in general. It is a very, very powerful source of energy. It can be cultivated and used to heighten one&#039;s awareness, creativity, and general powers. Before one can make use of it, one must have conscious control of it. One must undo the conditioning that our unhealthy sex culture which includes pornography visits upon us. </p><br /><p>Capitan, you might consider finding some support. Orgasm and porn can very much be an addiction like drugs or alcohol, and it&#039;s not always easy to break such a habit by yourself. Most men probably have a simillar problem as you (I have it), but we don&#039;t reallly talk about it in our society. If you can&#039;t find support in your existing social group, you might find a men&#039;s group in your area that deals with these issues, or at least something on the internet.</p><br /><p>I can reccomend a book that talks about this stuff. It&#039;s called &quot;Taoist Secrets of Love - Cultivating the Male Sexual Energy&quot;. As far as I can tell it is a legitimate exposition of taoist sex practices that have been kept secret, probably because the practice can unlock so much power. I&#039;d say it&#039;s as powerful (thus dangerous) as any kind of magical working. The book suggests that one should NEVER ejuculate, except for procreation. I think this practice is necessary if one is ready to fully cultivate the light body and achieve taoist immortality, but isn&#039;t really practical for most of us. Still, the exersizes and techniques it offers will help one to redirect the flow of energy so that rather than it all going out the penis, it can climb the latter. It&#039;s really the essence of kundalini practices, but is practical and real, not just meditation and visualization.</p><p>Mencius</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Mencius]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-01-20T21:53:15Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Interesting thread.<br />I definitely know (about) this problem. I also do it from time to time (please myself w/porn on the computer), and have for quite a while now realized it&#039;s not too good for me. I have felt this more on a personal level though, and I can&#039;t say I&#039;ve thought about the possibility of plugging in and sending energy to a larger matrix, possibly feeding some neg entities in the process. I have always felt a little drained after the deed is done, though, so I can clearly relate to what you&#039;re saying. But this drained feeling is also just a natural result of having gone through the full sexual experience until orgasm/ejaculation...</p><p>I remember reading about how sex with a partner, and of course, preferably in a loving relationship, can result in a sort of reciprocal charging, whereas masturbation leads to emptying as the energy is not received anywhere but more or less dissipates (or, possibly, gets snatched by energy-hunting entities?). There may very well be something to it.</p><p>Question is how to repress this &#039;natural&#039; urge, especially for a man, in a way that does not lead to unhealthy &quot;pressure cooker&quot; type build-up of unreleased sexual energy. All men not in active relationships (and with normal function of the sexual systems) will get the urge to either jack off or have (casual) sex, usually often. Bad results from not getting this relief, have been registered. I guess it&#039;s all about ones state of mind and way of thought, when it all comes to it.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-01-20T19:39:00Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If sex/masturbation is not desired, better find some natural anti-aphrodisiac to lower the libido.</p><p>Rue (Ruta graveolens) was used by monks, funny for women it is aphrodisiac... <br />good link but in Portuguese<br /><a href="http://www.jardimdeflores.com.br/ERVAS/A05arruda.htm">http://www.jardimdeflores.com.br/ERVAS/A05arruda.htm</a></p><p>I did not find much good English links<br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rue">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rue</a><br /><a href="http://ecoport.org/ep?Plant=18352&amp;entityType=PL****&amp;entityDisplayCategory=full">http://ecoport.org/ep?Plant=18352&amp;e … egory=full</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Pictus]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-01-20T19:19:36Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have definitely noticed what you are talking about Mencius.&nbsp; This is coincidental because I would label this as my number 1 problem right now, and yet I have been helpless to do anything about it.&nbsp; I struggle all week to not do it, then in one moment of altered state of mind I am somehow convinced to do it.&nbsp; I completely agree with you that it takes away your vital energies, and have no clue how to stop.&nbsp; </p><p>I actually found this post searching for &quot;chakra&quot;&nbsp; because I seem to have this problem with my stomach that I was wondering if it could be caused by some problem with whatever chakra is located there.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Capitan]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-01-20T18:19:14Z</updated>
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