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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>montalk wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>As for the kinesiology experiment and the lifting bolder, I don&#039;t remember (and cannot find in the photos I took) one that would match it. There were some coral rocking chairs that actually rocked, and a heavy coral gate that could be swung with a firm push of the fingers.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks for the response. I&#039;m well aware of the Rock Gate, and other amenities of the Castle. I believe the &quot;kinesiology&quot; boulder was near the rock quarry from which he obtained his stones.</p><p>AAARRRRGH! I&#039;m always catching these interesting shows at the very end. And when I go to follow up on them via research or otherwise, I come up dry! Even the website for Weird US has nothing on it. And I KNOW it was on that show. It&#039;s like some sort of metaphysical tease!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Lemniscate]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-04-09T01:31:35Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Montalk,<br />Thanks for the long reply and the pics.&nbsp; It&#039;s fascinating how he got all that done and moved all those stones.&nbsp; &nbsp;Now to mention cutting them up too, and all that.&nbsp; It makes you wonder what else that &quot;tuning fork&quot; could accomplish besides moving huge blocks.&nbsp; &nbsp;I would love to try sleeping in a hammock suspended off the ground.... perhaps high up.&nbsp; &nbsp; This harks back to the &quot;harnest&quot; that Don Juan used on Carlos, when he needed to &quot;cure&quot; him of things that are not physical, and to tune-up his awareness.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-04-07T22:43:09Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The theory was that Leedskalnin sat in his chair and spun around, the spinning motion somehow assisting his levitation feats, which relates to the Sufi whirling dervishes ritual and the Pleiadian and C&#039;s advice to practice spinning. Relevant excerpts:</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Q: (L) Did the guy who built the Coral Castle sit in his airplane seat<br />suspended from the ceiling and spin in it?<br />A: Open.<br />Q: (L) Was the airplane seat suspended from the ceiling in his room<br />part of how he did his work?<br />A: If you spin, it must be a precise method, not just spinning<br />randomly.<br />Q: (L) Did he discover a precise method for spinning to do such<br />things?<br />A: Open.<br />Q: (T) So many turns and precise direction? (L) Can we follow up on<br />this? Is there something on this moving things with sound that you<br />can tell us? (J) What about<br />a precise method for spinning?<br />A: Suggest experimentation.</p><p>Q: (L) Do thoughts produce gravity?<br />A: Yes.<br />Q: (L) Does sound produce gravity?<br />A: Yes.<br />Q: (L) Can sound manipulate gravity?<br />A: Yes.<br />Q: (L) Can it be done with the human voice?<br />A: Yes.<br />Q: (L) Can it be done tonally or by power through thought?<br />A: Both.<br />Q: (L) Then, is there also specific sound configurations involved?<br />A: Gravity is manipulated by sound when thought manipulated by<br />gravity chooses to produce sound which manipulates gravity.<br />Q: (L) Now, did the fellow who built the Coral Castle spin in his<br />airplane seat while thinking his manipulations into place?<br />A: No. He spun when gravity chose to manipulate him to spin in<br />order to manipulate gravity.<br />Q: (L) Does gravity have consciousness?<br />A: Yes.<br />Q: (L) Is it ever possible for the individual to do the choosing, or is<br />it gravity that IS him that chose?<br />A: The gravity that was inside him was all the gravity in existence.</p><p>Q: We learned that Leedskalnin supposedly wrote a book<br />back in 1949. (F) He did? I bet he didn&#039;t reveal his secrets! (L)<br />No, but it is interesting anyway. We ordered it. We read parts<br />of it from the internet, and it is written in rather archaic<br />language, or he had some problems explaining things in<br />English, but it is about basic principles he was investigating.<br />We want to play with some of his experiments at some point.<br />(F) Is there anything about spinning? (L) No, but I figured out<br />what the airplane seat was for by reading some of his<br />experiments. (A) Is there any experiment in this book that<br />would show us the way toward UFT, or better, a way out of<br />standard physics? Or, are his experiments just standard<br />things, but since he did not know the laws of physics, he may<br />have misinterpreted his results? He was amazed by the<br />behavior of magnets, but the experiments were standard?<br />Well, we will have to see. I wrote to this anti-gravity group and<br />asked them if there was one, just one, repeatable experiment<br />that I can do myself, which cannot be explained by standard<br />theories. Is there one?<br />A: Is there such an experiment, yes. But one needs the<br />necessary equipment, and that is difficult to come by. One<br />needs the means to supply the adequate power for an<br />artificially created EM field.<br />Q: (A) But that would mean that what is in this book by<br />Leedskalnin is just normal experiments because, for the most<br />part, they just use car batteries.<br />A: More power than that is needed, because the grid is too<br />weak for substantive results.<br />Q: (A) But, when he was building this Coral Castle,<br />apparently he was using such effects! What power was he<br />using?<br />A: Sound waves.<br />Q: (A) How was he producing these sound waves?<br />A: Through correlation of rocks and power source, obtained<br />&quot;illegally.&quot; Instrument was similar to a tuning fork, but<br />energized to a level that was lethal if one were to come in<br />contact with it, or its ground.<br />Q: (A) Have we been discouraged from experimenting here?<br />A: No.<br />Q: (L) Did he use this tuning fork while sitting in his<br />suspended swing?<br />A: Yes, because to do otherwise would have been fatal!.<br />Q: (L) Where did he illegally obtain this power source?<br />A: Tapped into high energy power lines.</p></blockquote></div><p>You can see by the following pictures that the chair on display today is not able to spin:</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://montalk.net/pics/coralchair.jpg" alt="http://montalk.net/pics/coralchair.jpg" /></span>&nbsp; <span class="postimg"><img src="http://montalk.net/pics/coralchairtop.jpg" alt="http://montalk.net/pics/coralchairtop.jpg" /></span></p><p>Either the original suspension was on some type of bearing to allow spinning, the spinning was only a partial twist left and right, or Leedskalnin did not spin in his chair. His bed is also suspended:</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://montalk.net/pics/coralbed.jpg" alt="http://montalk.net/pics/coralbed.jpg" /></span></p><p>Most logical explanation is that suspension merely kept crawling bugs off him as he sat or slept, but it could just as well have kept him electrically and vibrationally isolated from the ground. </p><p>As for the kinesiology experiment and the lifting bolder, I don&#039;t remember (and cannot find in the photos I took) one that would match it. There were some coral rocking chairs that actually rocked, and a heavy coral gate that could be swung with a firm push of the fingers. </p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://montalk.net/pics/coralgate.gif" alt="http://montalk.net/pics/coralgate.gif" /></span></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-04-07T19:14:31Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have a question for those in this string of posts who remember from the C&#039;s forum that Laura or someone else mentioned the guy that built Coral Castle, had a swing hanging from a high ceiling.&nbsp; &nbsp;Or perhaps it was a airplane seat suspended from the ceiling with a rope or chain.</p><p>What was the theory about this seat?&nbsp; &nbsp;And how did it help when it came to moving the huge blocks.&nbsp; &nbsp;Does anyone remember?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-04-07T17:25:02Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that site must have really advanced since the last time I researched it!</p><p>Thanks!</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-04-07T16:28:41Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Here&#039;s an interesting coral castle site: <a href="http://www.coralcastlecode.com/index.html">http://www.coralcastlecode.com/index.html</a></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-04-06T02:13:41Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Montalk,</p><p>I&#039;ve been researching Coral Castle for years now (from afar). How fortunate you were to have an opportunity to visit!</p><p>I have a question (fire up your memory cells...). I was watching &quot;Weird US&quot; on the History channel a while back, and I caught the last bit of an episode on Coral Castle. After elaborating on the remaining eccentricities of that place, the two hosts were shown this large, four foot long rock. It was positioned horizontally on a pivot point, and one of the sides was concave. The &quot;tour guide&quot; had one of the hosts stand in front of the rock while the concave side was pointed away from him. He performed a kinesiology demonstration with the hosts arm (there was moderate resistance) and asked him to pick up an adjacent boulder. It felt normally heavy to the host. Then he pivoted the rock so that the concave side was pointed at the host. When he repeated the kinesiology demonstration, there was considerably more resistance from the host&#039;s arm, and the adjacent boulder was quite easy to lift.</p><p>Did you happen to see this particular boulder, or have any additional insite regarding its &quot;operation&quot;?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-04-05T15:56:59Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting thread, in part anyway, on Coral Castle.&nbsp; &nbsp;It&#039;s cool to see Montalk has actually visited the site and got a chance to see those big coral block&#039;s up close.&nbsp; </p><p>I wonder if anyone remember&#039;s the airplane seat suspended by the high ceiling in Leedskalnin&#039;s home?&nbsp; &nbsp;I wonder what part that had to play in the &quot;sound wave focusing&quot; (I remember most of what the C&#039;s had to say about this), and building it all with such ease.</p><p>I can&#039;t help but think of the &quot;purifing harness&quot; from the Carlos Castaneda book&#039;s, the harness Don Juan used to help Carlos rid himself of ailment&#039;s the are not physical, and also to help him learn a few thing&#039;s that were only hinted at in the book&#039;s.</p><p>It makes you also wonder if Billy Idol&#039;s song, Sweet Sixteen, wasn&#039;t a &quot;mis-direct&quot;, I could not help but think his &quot;handler&#039;s&quot; put him up to that one.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-03-30T09:12:51Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi Montalk!</p><p>I have been quite interested in Cymatics ever since your post.&nbsp; I read Hans Jenny’ book but it was not the highly technical book I was expecting.&nbsp; Don&#039;t get me wrong I did enjoy the book and the pictures but it was not exactly what I was looking for.&nbsp; I decided to build 1&#039; x 1&#039; plates and control the rate of vibration using piezoelectric transducers as you suggested but have run into a few setbacks.&nbsp; I wanted to be able to control the plate vibration rate as well as the amplitude using a single transducer.&nbsp; This appears to be a problem because these devices will vibrate at a fixed frequency and this is solely determined by the transducer properties.&nbsp; There are a few things I could do such as building a driver and controlling the power fed to the transducer but this is more work than I expected.&nbsp; I really wanted to run my tests at low frequencies (5-300 HZ) to study levitation effects (if any) on small pebbles or materials of different densities.&nbsp; So, I changed directions and am considering using my computer to control the sound being fed to a hi-tech speaker.&nbsp; I am looking for software (I have a few leads) where I can record single words &amp; vowels and loop them to make a continuous sound pattern to be sent to the speaker.&nbsp; The speaker is to be mounted similar to your suggestion to visavis.&nbsp; I do think that several speakers will be required to be able to levitate an object and make it hold its position.&nbsp; Let me explain.</p><p>First the incident and reflected waves must be somewhere around 135 degrees from each other.&nbsp; If the reflected wave is 180 degrees from the incident a destructive wave collision should be expected.&nbsp; If one speaker is placed directly underneath the object a pulsating up &amp; down movement should be observed (on the object) and the object will not hold its position in space.&nbsp; If the speaker setup is placed in such a way that the angle between incident and reflected waves is 135 degrees the collisions between the waves is reduced.&nbsp; If a speaker is placed on each cardinal point (in relation to the object) and the sound waves are synchronized (same signal is fed to all 4 speakers)&nbsp; one would expect the object to hold its position in space for there is a constant force (at 45 degrees in relation to the ground or grade)&nbsp; on each cardinal point acting on the object.&nbsp; Of course, this is assuming I am using the right frequency and the object can be levitated.&nbsp; I honestly would love to hear your opinion on this.&nbsp; I am considering spherical objects only at this time.</p><p>Regards</p><p>P.S. It will be allright to say I am nuts! hehehehe</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-12-01T17:04:13Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>i went out and got some stuff and did this experiment.&nbsp; 4&quot; speaker, pcv pipe, wire/plug to connect the speaker to my soundcard, and latex gloves.&nbsp; I got some semi-interesting bits of pattern in the flour, between 75 and 100 Hz... above 130 Hz it was hard to get any movement in the powder particles.&nbsp; </p><p>I also tried salt, particles were too large and coarse for the small 4&quot; surface, they just bounced around without any patterning.&nbsp; I&#039;m gonna give water a go...</p><p>One very interesting thing I noticed was I tried also putting my subwoofer next to the apparatus, laterally.&nbsp; At certain frequencies, it would &#039;draw&#039; the salt (on top of the latext drum) toward it... certain frequencies (only a few Hz away) would repel the salt, which would travel to the other side and fall off.&nbsp; </p><p>Hmm... so I could just see the &#039;edges&#039; of the phenomena so far.&nbsp; I don&#039;t think I had a proper set up for a controlled environment.&nbsp; But interesting, nonetheless.&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[visavis]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-11-27T20:04:55Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>hi visavis, the tin can was an alternate setup to the PVC coupler.&nbsp; So, one or the other. The only advantage to the coupler is that it has a flared base and a cylindrical top, so that it can be set sturdily on a table with the speaker inside pointing up at the latex over the top. Also, the distance between latex and speaker is smaller than with a tin can unless you use a stubby can. </p><p>Another thing to try would be filling a brownie pan halfway with water and setting it over your subwoofer speaker, then looking at a light&#039;s reflection as you play different low tones. At certain frequencies you should be able to get somewhat stable patterns on there. The cheaper the pan, the better, because the more flexible the metal, the more easily the sound waves flex it to vibrate the water.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-11-25T19:00:07Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Tom, missed this post earlier, thanks very much for the elaborate description.&nbsp; So ideally the part between the latex &amp; speaker would be open-ended tin can and the part below the speaker would be the pvc coupler?&nbsp; Would the can &#039;fit in&#039; to the coupler just so, or be glued on top for example?&nbsp; </p><p>You got me going on this again and I think I&#039;ll have to give it a proper try.&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-11-25T13:19:00Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The sound was as loud as when you hum a song or whistle. I used a three inch speaker from RadioShack stuck inside the bottom of a PVC pipe coupler and a latex membrane stretched and secured over the other end.</p><p>For a quick version, try stretching the latex over the speaker itself. Otherwise stretch and secure it over a tin can so that it&#039;s taught like a drum and goes &quot;thwanggggg&quot; when you snap it, and hold the other end as close as you can to a computer speaker or subwoofer. Try frequencies between 100-500Hz. Use baby powder or cornstarch or flour for interesting results. Here is a tone generator if you need one: <a href="http://www.nch.com.au/tonegen/index.html">http://www.nch.com.au/tonegen/index.html</a></p><p>To do the &quot;famous&quot; cymatics experiments, you would need a thin metal plate connected at the very center to the vibrating source. So the center is vibrating, which sends out waves in all directions that then bounce back upon each other and create standing waves of certain patterns at certain frequencies. I haven&#039;t tried that yet, because ideally one would use a &quot;piezoelectric transducer&quot; instead of a magnetically driven speaker to turn the electrical signal into powerful and rapid vibrations. I haven&#039;t had the resources to do the job properly, so haven&#039;t attempted that one yet.</p><p>I did buy a granite plate once to record its resonant frequencies and try playing the tone back, but the sound waves weren&#039;t strong enough and I&#039;d have to use that piezo transducer instead. Could probably shatter the plate if it hits the right note.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[montalk]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-11-20T07:09:07Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>roughly how many decibels / ampage did you need to get your experiment to work, and did you use a normal speaker or subwoofer?&nbsp; </p><p>Was the latex glove on the bottom of the double-open ended can (so the powder was &#039;inside&#039;) or on the top (so the powder was on top)?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[visavis]]></name>
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			<updated>2005-11-20T06:23:48Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Glad you liked the video, I could watch it all day!</p><p>If you would like to try again with a cymatics experiment, find something that is both flat and flexible. The more pliable, the lower its resonant frequency and the lower the pitch you need to get results. You know, like a guitar string that is relaxed...it naturally vibrates at a lower pitch. Metal will work well if you have something loud and high pitched. Hit it with a spoon and you&#039;ll hear a high pitched &quot;ting&quot; -- if you can play a loud sound at that frequency and its multiples, it will work.</p><p>What I did once was stretch a latex glove over the open top of a tin can, then put the other open end over a speaker hooked up to the computer. With baby powder on top, I definitely got some patterns at certain frequencies. Nothing too fancy, but the powder would also clump up into little moving islands. I also tried drops of water, and that was pretty cool.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2005-11-20T04:08:13Z</updated>
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