To be brief,  Starling, I share your concerns about suddenly adding in a symbol when you're doing the Quantum Touch technique. I'd be wary of using any such "filters" to an otherwise cool-sounding technique. Some people will definitely be incompatible/out of resonance the minute you start using a symbol or letter as part of what you are conveying to them. Best to keep things in as pure a form as possible, as unfiltered energy, I would guess.

Celephais,

Interesting that you say you're not so visually attuned -- that you're more into conveying pure vibration or "tone" with your work. I like that ! I think that will keep your work very clean and pure, bypassing all of those constructs that have come to be associated with all forms of languages and symbols and just getting right into pure energy. I'd bet money that that's what distinguishes your work from others who have studied Reiki - you're not inscribing symbols over people, it sounds like, neither are you mentally hooking into the Reiki symbols in your work. You sound like you're simply focusing on the qualities associated with each symbol like power, love, etc and accessing those pretty directly.  Maybe this is what creates the divide between people who have good experiences and people who don't. It also sounds like you had a very clued in teacher who was responsive to her students and helped them along with their learning curve, very important.

Still, this seemed to raise some red flags for me --

See there's a big difference between death as a choice that a person makes from a Higher Self perspective -- which could be going on when someone is suddenly blasted with really high vibrational energy and thus decides to leave their physical body for good -- and death as a by product of massive psychic attack by negs, which is what I've witnessed and others have witnessed as a byproduct of some Reiki treatments. I'd say the two things are different and that caution is indicated because of this.

Yes, the energy sensitives and clairvoyants who are wired "similarly" to me in terms of their abilities are confirming that they see and sense these weird, not so nice, critters associated with the Sanksrit letters in particular, and with Reiki practice in general.  I think the Sanksrit is the problem because I've sensed these same negative entities around Tibetan Buddhism and those who teach/practice it.  Not so much the Japanese letters or Kanji.  Perhaps it's the mixture that is dangerous -- blending the Sanksrit and the Japanese together in such a funky blend.

All good points to ponder!  And I'm so glad that you are a discerning, careful person who obviously has real talents and skills.  Keep on with what you're doing and just keep your eyes open, I'd say. I think the more that all healing practices can move towards pure vibrational healing vs. adding in letters or human-created stuff, the better, and it sounds like you are focused on doing very pure work.

LipstickMystic aka Jennifer

What I mean in "blanket accusation" is that your numbers of "bad" incidents just seems small in comparison to the amount of reiki being done.  There's something like 39 or 40 different branches of reiki up there (lets say 40, just for the round number) If each of those branches only had 5 "professionally" practicing members, you'd have 200 practicing members total.  How many clients do you have for your practice?  Multiply that by 200.  I'll use my own number of 5 for people I work on regularly (obviously not enough to make a career out of, but I think I'm still too young and inexperienced myself to move in that direction at this time in my life).  That's 1000 clients.  "Dozens" and "hundreds" of cases that have "bad" effects just seems kind of a small percentage to me out of a thousand clients.  If we add in people who do reiki non-professionally in the .... hundreds of thousands?....  we get a lot more reiki being done to make the statistical significance of "dozens" and "hundreds" of cases of "bad" stuff even lower.

Sometimes, people just die. That's a part of life.  Could reiki have been a factor in it?  Sure!  I don't know the case studies... were any of instances where the person was ready to "transition" anyway, like old age, or seriously injured? Was that even mentioned as a factor? What qualifies a person for making that assessment? I know the system I use (which isn't mentioned above)  states very blatantly a warning that reiki can instigate death in the elderly, terminaly ill, seriously injured or other persons ready to "transition".  Sometimes, for some people,  death is a "better" alternative than life. 

Reiki doesn't work for you. That happens.  I've refused to do reiki on people who have asked me for it, because their/my higher self says no.  Some of these problems could be from a practicioner being less discerning. It hasn't worked out in the general 3D perception of "good" for some other people.  Between the two of us we have listed a  number of factors that could be the cause of that.  But again we're talking about hundreds of cases out of hundreds of thousands of reiki sessions, 0.1%.  It just doesn't seem that there are enough "bad" cases to justify saying that the whole system, in whatever of the 40+ forms, is tainted.  There is enough to say that there should be some more discipline and discernment from the practicioners and even more importantly, from the teachers, and that people should be cautious and discerning.  But let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

I can't speak for your experience. I can relate to it in a way.  Like I said, I am not a visual person. I just don't perceive the various energies that way when I am in a sober state of mind. Instead,   I feel a "tone" or "pitch". But regardless, I am aware of these "critters", though my "sensual" and therefore "conceptual" interpretation of "them" is very different. To me "they" feel a "lower" consciousness than that of the higher selves, but not something that I would consider malign or evil, simply ignorant in comparison. I was not aware that this consciousness traveled to people that are being worked on as well as initiated. I can see how that would be disconcerting, especially for someone who does have a consistent negative reaction to reiki. I will have to think on this more, take what limited visualization skills I have and find out if I can see them your way, but without the allergic reaction.  Maybe a different perspective can give us both further insight.  Have you spoken with others who sense and interpret energy visually about them?

I emailed you about a possible way to test QT. I understand that you can't judge a system by the way it makes you feel; running the energy using any method will make you feel "blissed out". But I would like to know that I'm actually helping people, not exposing them (and myself!) to some possible long term horrible side effect.

I dunno... I personally, have not experienced any "problems" of any kind associated with reiki either in my own life or any second hand in the lives of the people who I "work" on.

Good for you!  Maybe you have a natural screening mechanism of some kind that allows you to access spiritual energy really cleanly, and so you aren't passing along any "ick" with your work. A really sincere big heart can do a lot to mitigate the more problematic aspects I've witnessed with Reiki, although I don't think it will always prevent troubles.  It certainly helps though!

In Reiki III the Sanskrit symbol Raku is often passed along in attunements.  And the others are Japanese Kanji interpretations of earlier Sanskrit writings. So you've got a weird mixing of the energies of the original Sanskrit and then that's overlaid with Kanji. You know -- that might even be part of the problem right there!  If language is tapped into certain ley lines of metaphysical energy, which I believe it might be, and if language also ties into certain ancient entity groups who GAVE humans language (or influenced its development after we fell out of oneness,) might there be a weird mix of two different, not entirely compatible, entity groups going on with the mixing of these symbols?

So you have the Sanskrit critters (these are a very distinguishable group of entities; I see them in the energy fields of every person I've known who either received a Reiki treatment or who has been initiated into Reiki -- they tend to hang out and try to convince folks that they are "spiritual guides." Oy!)  And then you have whatever energies might be uniquely tied to Kanji.  This could cause a sort of muddling of energies, or a mixture that can be experienced as something incompatible to the person receiving those symbols through a healing session .

These are all very excellent points and definitely factor into the equation, I believe.

Yes, Reiki isn't just "null" energy that automatically "fixes" whatever needs fixing. It is definitely the ADDITION of something to that person's field, and oftentimes, this process is not a pleasant or comfortable one for the client.  So practitioners do need to be very careful about just WHAT they envision Reiki to be -- or not to be -- and think carefully through about just what they are doing to a patient. I think in the rush to gain Reiki I and Reiki II initiations in one weekend (very common among practitioners, unfortunately,) a lot of these steps about discernment and accountability and finer energy sensitivity are missed.

I dunno. At what point am I allowed to be critical of something and say I have grave concerns about something?  Is it after one person dies after receiving the technique?  Two? Ten?  I have ten cases of death that I can directly trace to occurring after receiving Reiki treatment.  And I have dozens more of SUSPICIOUS deaths that SEEM to be associated with Reiki but don't have such a clean "cause/effect" that can be "objectively" traced.

And then there are dozens of cases of other health crises people have experienced after receiving Reiki that did NOT behave as typical "detox" or "healing crises" situations -- I'm talking flatlining, heart attack, stroke, mental or nervous breakdown, psychotic episodes, and more.  This is culled from all the cases I've been gathering notes on over the years from a) my own healing practice as an intuitive counsellor, which put me in direct orbit with many Reiki practitioners and their patients b) corroborative experiences of other professional healers and c) cases and communications gathered from healers and holistic people I don't personally know that well from all over the world, but 90% of these folks I have been able to check out in terms of their credentials and so forth as being "legit" and knowing what they are talking about.

Dozens of cases, probably more like over a hundred, that seem to provide very STRONG negative evidence of Reiki being the DIRECT cause of some very bad stuff. 

At what point, then, am I allowed to be critical and continue my "blanket accusations?"  What further research must I do?  How many more people have to die?

Just let me know.

I appreciate this.  Because most Reiki practitioners I know and have known would have gotten busy sending me Reiki before even typing up their response within this thread.

And, well, I'd just have to send it back -- with the heel of my boot gently propelling it along

LipstickMystic aka Jennifer

More info:

"Usui Reiki symbols are not as mysterious as they might seem. They have actually been created from Japanese kanji which means they are simply words from the Japanese language. Their names can be found in a Japanese/English dictionary. The first two symbols vary from this somewhat. While the names of the Power and Mental/Emotional symbols are Japanese, the symbols themselves may be shamanic or a combination of Sanskrit and Japanese kanji. It is a practice of Japanese Buddhists' to sometimes combine ancient Sanskrit with Japanese kanji in their sacred writings and symbols so the way these first two symbols are drawn may have been influenced by this practice. The distant and Master symbols are completely Japanese kanji, both in their names and in the way they are drawn and all the characters can be found in a Japanese/English dictionary."

http://www.reiki.org/reikinews/usuisym.html

"The Reiki symbols are Sanskrit-derived Japanese forms. It is believed that all languages of the world are derived from Sanskrit. The Vedas are the oldest texts know to man and these are written in Sanskrit. According to the Vedas, Sanskrit is the language of the spirit world."

http://www.indobase.com/reiki/info-for- … mbols.html

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About Karuna Reiki, which is a different system from Usui Reiki I believe:

KARUNA REIKI
Karuna is a Sanskrit word which means 'compassionate action'. This compassion is associated with Kwan Yin (the Chinese Goddess of compassion and mercy) and the unbounded sea of love, which, when combined with wisdom, can bring enlightenment. It evolved out of Usui and Tibetan Reiki.

http://www.reikiliving.com/Karuna%20Reiki%20Symbols.htm

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This one is a very visually annoying page that takes a while to load, but in the secton where it talks about Reiki III it says:

"There is also three Reiki 3 or Masters symbols.

DAI KO MYO - is used both for attunement and healing and it works on the spiritual body level, healing the soul.
DUMO - is a Tibetan Master Symbol representing the fiery heat of the kundalini.
RAKU - is a Sanskrit symbol often used when passing attunements. "

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More on the origins of Reiki:

http://www.reiki.org/reikinews/rootsreiki.html
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So there would appear to be a mixture of Japanese and Sanskrit language influences woven into the symbols.  Somewhere I also read that the Sanskrit symbol for "Om" is woven into one of the Reiki levels. Maybe level one?

And lastly, here is a list from one website about some of the very many types of Reiki classes that are being offered. Talk about splintering and fragmentation!  How could any system passed along so many different "branches" remain "clean?"

This list taken from:

http://www.training-classes.com/course_ … _study.php

Archangelic Seichim Reiki Home Study</A></li>
Ascension Reiki Home Study
Attraction Reiki Home Study
Aura Empowerment Reiki Home Study
Aurora Reiki Home Study
Celtic Reiki Home Study and Live class
Crystal Reiki Master Home Study
Dolphin Trilogy Reiki Home Study
Dos Rios Reiki Home Study
Elemental     Reiki Master Home Study
Empowerment Reiki Home Study
Excalibur Reiki Home Sudy
Gendai Reiki Home Study
Gold Reiki Home Study
Golden Triangle Healing Home Study
Imara Reiki Home Study
Inner Light Reiki Home Study
Karmic Reiki Home Study
Karuna Ki Reiki Home Study
Karuna Reiki  Live Class
Kundalini Reiki Home Study
Lightarian Reiki Level 1 & 2 Home study
Ma'heo'o Reiki Home Study
Medicine Buddha Reiki Home study
Medicine Reiki Home Study
Money Reiki Home Study
Nature Elements Reiki Home Study
OBE Reiki Home Study
Raku Kei Reiki Home Study
Sacred Moon Reiki Home Study
Seichim Reiki Home Study
Sekhem System Home Study
Seven Pearls of Reiki Home study
Threshold Reiki Home Study
Tibetan Reiki Home Study
Usui Shiki Ryoho Home Study
Violet Flame Reiki Home Study
White Dove Reiki Home study

That's a heckuva lot of Reiki!

LM

But at the same time I don't believe it is a system of energy healing that should have these blanket accusations made against it.  Yes, the teachers usually don't do their job of training properly.  Yes, the students are usually clueless.  But again, these are problems with the practicioners, not the energy itself, IMO.

Incidently, I would like all of you who disagree with me to know that I am not intending there to be any energy sent to you, whether reiki energy (as that would be a freewill violation that I will not participate in or condone, and am disgusted that others have) or any kind of malign intent, as you are entitled to your opinions, and I was sharing mine, nothing more.

As far at this goes I believe he did this because were not doing it for simple togetherness and peace like you mentioned, they were doing it as a way of standing up to God and his authority.  I believe that it is implied here that the drive of the people was based out of arrogance and pride and those are things that the Lord of the hologram dislikes.. Thats why he was angered by it and scattered them to the wind. It could also be said that by doing so he created the initiative for humanity to have diversity through various cultures as it was implied here that there was one culture and race on the Earth at this point. As far as being omnipresent but being in one place that is summed up pretty easily in the fact that he manifested in physical form in 3d. Of course he knows what is going on everywhere- he set up the original values for all the variables in the beginning of the hologram and set them in motion. Naturally, knowing the original values of all the variables for everything and how they interact with one another would allow him know the values at the end. Thats why he says he is the alpha and the omega- because he is present in all places at all times. Which brings up the question, if Lucifer "satan" is the prince of darkness- then who is the king of darkness? Well.. the LORD is of course. There would not be evil or darkness unless he created it. Or at least thats my take on it anyway..

Basically, it shows etymology of the letters themselves.

The underlying meaning behind a form.

The link is that the topic of yoga positions was discussed, and the idea that yoga poses or forms can have energetic effects.

Examining underlying symbology.

http://www.resurrectisis.org/vislang.htm

http://www.resurrectisis.org/Tower1.htm

http://www.resurrectisis.org/Babel1.htm

this is a cool site.  u can "do" ur fav numbers, and ur name, or at least initials.

And to be really politically incorrect, Hebrew letters when you scan them (as the neo-Kabbalah people from Rav Berg's group advise you to do to become enlightened or to heal or to access "good" energy) hooks into the albino/Nordics as well.

Which raises a lot of interesting and disturbing questions about the very nature of language and letters itself.

Remember the whole Tower of Babel story and the alleged scattering of the languages that happened in ancient times?  Mankind supposedly had a shared, telepathic language before then, and so man was unable to "lie' to another man because untruths were immediately detected.

Then you perhaps had "God" or ET's masquerading as godlike beings scattering humanity across the globe, isolating them, instilling what we now use as language, and suddenly......

Man became capable of deception and lies.  Because without telepathic abilities, it's hard to discern truth.

So....is language itself a tool to make us in "Their" image?  To turn us into deceptive, easily controlled, manipulated beings who have lost their spiritual sovereignty?

Interesting possibilities.

Ok, great idea here LM.  I'm thinkin' yea.  There is certainly something deeper to this biblical story.  Read closely (between the lines, if need be):

I do wonder if the Hebrew text implies more "communication" rather than vocal "speech."  Anyone knowledgeable in Hebrew here?

Cue the 'Jehovah' character:

If God is everwhere, then who is this "Jehovah / LORD" character that is "coming down"? 

So, the "LORD" is purposefully truncating and even eliminating human peace, togetherness, communication, abilities, and potential.  I wonder if there is a logical way to come to any other conclusion than this... if so please share. 

It's a mess, I tells ya! 

The article was interesting because the guy outlines the changes his girlfriend went through.  He also mentions the glossy vacant stares of the yoga girls he'd see at Whole Foods rummaging for root vegetables.    haha  It ends with him being single again, divorced after five years of marriage, and having a flirtacious moment with a woman shopper at Whole Foods....til he notices the OM/sanskrit tattoo on her shoulder blade.  She rounds a corner to the right and glances back to see if he's going to follow her.  He turns left.     

If there are dangers associated with Reiki and Yoga, people need to hear about it, so thanks for sharing what you know LM.

I am sure most people have a sincere interest in Reiki and are not really out to hurt people.  But I get the sense that it opens people to forces that ARE out to hurt people.  And so many people will justify the negative effects they cause others by taking pride in their belief that they are doing good.

I have seen people on the internet who flaunt their Reiki title and status so much, they literally can't post anything or communicate with anyone without mentioning it.  It seems like there is a lot of ego involved in it, and brainwashing too.  Like it becomes such a huge part of who they are, they can't separate themselves from it at all, they don't leave home without it.   

Now the one who interfered with me didn't advertise herself as a healer, and she even asked me not to tell anyone about it.  Which is because she was just using the practice for her own dark purposes.  It goes without saying but it's really never a good idea to accept a healing/reading/whatever from someone you don't know very well.  No matter if it's offered for free, you can still end up paying a huge price.

It is unbelievable the lengths people will go to for gaining access to your energy.  The bottom line is if someone truly wants to hurt you, there is only so much they can do remotely.  They have to get into your awareness somehow, to make you receptive to it.  They can impose a series of situations on you to make you feel you are under attack, and when you are worn down sufficiently, they present a solution, ie. if you just accept this healing, or this amulet, or this protective ritual it will help.  And what actually happens is they just put their hooks in you further.

All the comments here about yoga are really interesting.  My thought on it is that holding your body locked into certain poses would create an unusual energy signature.  So it's more about the energy pattern than the poses themselves.  And the overall pattern of holding the body rigid is going to attract entities who want someone willing to be under control.  It's like you are showing them how dedicated you are to controlling yourself and fighting impulses, and parasites love that.

Tim