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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Another reason to love the Cathars & Valentinus]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks zenden, I will def. have to come back to this for later reading (tomorrow, probably <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> )&nbsp; Will def. have to check out the links too.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-05-22T03:19:06Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Another reason to love the Cathars & Valentinus]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.russianbooks.org/montsegur/montsegur1.htm">http://www.russianbooks.org/montsegur/montsegur1.htm</a>&nbsp; neat list even of the names of the ones burned/executed.&nbsp; read up if interested in what they have to say about women, and pg women.&nbsp; god, i know i was one of them.&nbsp; and so sad to see the words displaced or &quot;dispossessed&quot; knights.&nbsp; prob meaning no lord nor sponsor to pay for the horses, supplies, armor, farrier, and all that.&nbsp; were up there on that mountain where the church had them cornered for some time.&nbsp; and u know 4 supposedly escaped down the side of that mountain with the treasure.&nbsp; whatever that was.&nbsp; many ideas, no conclusions.</p><p>and speaking of treasure, ben hammot (aka yrs ago as the Tombman) has new discoveries which blew my socks off.&nbsp; and that new movie is coming out called &quot;Bloodline&quot;&nbsp; some pretty fascinating stuff. and hes found a real tomb.&nbsp; go here rather than his site to read up if interested.&nbsp; its the neatest if u like this sort of thing.&nbsp; from that daily grail website that lilmomma and i both mentioned.&nbsp; its neat place with esoteric news stuff all the time.&nbsp; neatest guy operates that site.&nbsp; good natured and funny.&nbsp; </p><p>heres the best view of the new tomb info from andrew gough&#039;s site.&nbsp; fantastic stuff.&nbsp; best to check this out first which tells the story clearly on a timeline.&nbsp; &nbsp;<a href="http://www.andrewgough.co.uk/tomb.html">http://www.andrewgough.co.uk/tomb.html</a></p><p>and see <a href="http://www.benhammott.com/tomb.html">http://www.benhammott.com/tomb.html</a>&nbsp; too with a ton of cool info and discoveries and how he found his clues.&nbsp; good reading on the rennes- le-chateau and montsegur, perillos, and MM stuff that all blends together with the cathars, the KT, the disenfranchised of the day that believed the &quot;secret&#039; things.&nbsp; and whats so unreal about it that here it is centuries later and the families that tried to protect that stuff and hide it really kept their vows.&nbsp; and they were in france at the same time MM supposedly was.&nbsp; from the beginning when she escaped from the mideast supposedly pregnant.&nbsp; those same families started the templars and had some unreal reasons for that.&nbsp; i believe they actually knewher and listened to her and handed down secret stuff.&nbsp; there was alot of wisdom then, and covert stuff going on with alot of dissension and the desire to carry on real teachings and not blind-faith doctrine which has been covered up and destroyed every which way since.&nbsp; there were sects and communities there in gaul and western europe that flourished after the romans let up a bit.&nbsp; &nbsp;this was pre-muslim too and lots was known from eastern knowledge before traditional mohammedism.&nbsp; the KT learned alot from the sufi&#039;s after they went east.&nbsp; &nbsp;and i read the other day she was protected by herod at his house in gaul after her exodus wherein they were hunting her down to kill her.&nbsp; herodias herod&#039;s wife was a friend of hers and preached too.&nbsp; they wore red and that was used by the church later to label them as whores.&nbsp; she left during a hot time with a few other women and men that had to leave the east after the crucifiction.&nbsp; they were wanted and being hunted by the PTB.&nbsp; funny its spelled cruci-FICTION.&nbsp; hmmmmm&nbsp; we will have to see if france allows a real dig there and what the codex book there has to say.&nbsp; its rotting away as the relics are due to bad underground conditions and time is running short.&nbsp; of course i went wild when i saw the shroud had the templar cross on it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[zenden]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-05-22T00:59:22Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>i need to buy these books.&nbsp; there r a couple that are way cool. thanks for that Pellucidar.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[zenden]]></name>
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			<updated>2007-01-22T18:29:41Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Have you seen the books by Arthur Guirdham on reincarnation and the Cathars - &quot;THE CATHARS AND REINCARNATION&quot; and &quot;WE ARE ONE ANOTHER&quot;.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Cathars are reincarnating as was foretold by a troubadour poet (in the 13th century) at the time of the (Cathar) Persecution. The seven centuries silence he foresaw has elapsed and the voice of primitive Christianity is speaking again. Many of those who reincarnate remember their previous lives. All those so endowed have other psychic gifts. A person cannot have far memory without having also in varying degrees of development such gifts as clairvoyance, clairaudience, telepathy and healing. This is what I myself have regularly encountered in and out of my clinical practice.&quot;</p></blockquote></div><p><a href="http://www.pastlifetimes.net/psychic_phone_readings_psychic_research_empowered.htm">http://www.pastlifetimes.net/psychic_ph … owered.htm</a></p><br /><p>Blue Apples</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-01-22T11:24:02Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>this is a book i found, a novel, if u will, interspersed with historical reflections and info on the cathars, who so believed in escaping from duality. i linked this page first so down in the middle u can see that many are drawn these days to that ancient belief system.&nbsp; having resonance with it before.&nbsp; u might like the whole book, its sweet but kinda slow.&nbsp; it also shows the love of the KT for the cathars, and how they went down together, trapped in the mountain caves, starving for months upon months, as they church held them hostage.&nbsp; its past life remembrances of about 5 ppl inexplicably drawn to each other, trying to finish theirpastlives with a sense of duty to an escape route.</p><p><a href="http://www.isleofavalon.co.uk/GlastonburyArchive/messenger/sm-catharconnection5.html">http://www.isleofavalon.co.uk/Glastonbu … tion5.html</a></p><p>this next link illustrates how the seacrh for the grail, always involves the nazis/SS, and the cathars, and the KT.&nbsp; note the mention of doves, &quot;emerald&quot;, the symbology of both, as it applies to the mystery of things. </p><p><a href="http://greyfalcon.us/Otto%20Rahn.htm">http://greyfalcon.us/Otto%20Rahn.htm</a></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2007-01-21T21:59:17Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hey zenden, thanks for the link!</p><p>An interesting and informative article, made even more so by a personal synchronicity.&nbsp; Is there any chance I could have your email as it&#039;s not readily listed, or you could email me, so I could send you a personal thanks/explanation for related synch?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-12-17T08:52:19Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>this is a good one.&nbsp; and, as we all know, the KT really were into/friends with the cathars.&nbsp; i love those guys, both of em, and here&#039;s why, cause they KNEW.&nbsp; dig the part on what god should be saying...</p><p><a href="http://groups.msn.com/TheHolyGrail/gnostic.msnw?action=get_message&amp;mview=0&amp;ID_Message=1210&amp;LastModified=4675601941378577734">http://groups.msn.com/TheHolyGrail/gnos … 1378577734</a></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-12-16T22:52:16Z</updated>
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