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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So some smoking awareness people came to work the other day to hand out leaflets and to see what your Carbon Monoxide levels are from blowing into this machine.</p><p>Currently i smoke about 6 organic roll ups a day, i had one about 45 minutes before blowing into the machine and it said i was a non smoker with a low reading of 4 parts CO, all my smoking colleagues had readings of 15 to 18.<br />The guy doing it was gobsmaked that a smoker like me should have such a low CO reading that ruined his talk <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>I put it down to organic tobacco and not being a shallow breather like most folks.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Barefoot Doc]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-02-02T12:50:11Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Polonium 210 in commercial cigarettes, the same stuff used that was used to kill Litvenenko and the radiation scares on UK planes?</p><p><a href="http://www.lenntech.com/Periodic-chart-elements/Po-en.htm">http://www.lenntech.com/Periodic-chart- … /Po-en.htm</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Barefoot Doc]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-12-05T16:55:37Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>They do it to the full flavors as well. I first noticed it on the Marlboro Reds then on the Kool full flavors. The same with the others I mentioned. I don&#039;t smoke the lights or ultra lights and that is why it surprised me. I knew they did it to the lights but i didn&#039;t know they did it to the full flavors.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[seatrout]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-12-05T15:27:14Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>seatrout wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Another thing I have noticed with cigarettes, such as Marlboro, Kool, Camel, and Lucky Strikes, is that they are putting a ring of tiny holes in the filters. You have to get Camel Wides or Kool XLs to not have the holes. You have to really look close because they try to hide them. I don&#039;t know why they started doing that. Any ideas would be nice.</p></blockquote></div><p>That&#039;s their attempt to make it light or ultra light.&nbsp; The idea is that less smoke will get to you because some will escape.&nbsp; Still, most people naturally hold their fingers over the holes, so this is useless.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Lono]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-12-05T14:56:36Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Another thing I have noticed with cigarettes, such as Marlboro, Kool, Camel, and Lucky Strikes, is that they are putting a ring of tiny holes in the filters. You have to get Camel Wides or Kool XLs to not have the holes. You have to really look close because they try to hide them. I don&#039;t know why they started doing that. Any ideas would be nice.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[seatrout]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-12-05T12:19:17Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>LipstickMystic wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><strong>You can take the edge of your hand (one or both hands) and scoop out energy debris from your auric field right above the spot that feels pain.</strong>&nbsp; Scoop out the debris, imagine black or grey goop hovering above the spot where the pain is (because that&#039;s what&#039;s there etherically,) and you&#039;re just using your hand or hands to scoop it away.&nbsp; Best to dump the debris in the toilet or sink, because if you just leave it on the bed or on a chair you WILL feel itchy later on because you&#039;re sitting in the gunk you just cleared out of your field.<br />LipstickMystic aka Jennifer</p></blockquote></div><p>I remembered what I saw in the movie Dances with Wolves, Kevin Costner swooping the smoke from his pipe over his head and upwards (does the smoke carry this &quot;debris&quot; away (if you visualize as such?), the two very well could be related.)</p><p>Back to catching up with the rest of the posts <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Free_Your_Mind]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-12-05T08:10:50Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>from&nbsp; <a href="http://law.ato.gov.au/atolaw/view.htm?docid=aid/aid2002637/00001">http://law.ato.gov.au/atolaw/view.htm?d … 2637/00001</a>&nbsp; </p><p>While each application for an excise licence is determined on its merits it is likely that, having regard to section 39A of the EA and the intention of the legislation, the Collector would refuse to issue excise licences to an applicant who proposes to grow tobacco at a domestic residence for personal consumption.</p></blockquote></div><p><img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/lol.png" width="15" height="15" alt="lol" />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;As for mailing tobacco, could probably get away with a small amount, but yes, illegal.&nbsp; It would be considered smuggling as no excise duty is paid.&nbsp; They gotta have their taxes, cos that&#039;s what will put me off smoking <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/roll.png" width="15" height="15" alt="roll" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[free*world]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-12-04T23:05:29Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thx for the link for seeds.&nbsp; I plan to grow a few plants in next years garden.&nbsp; I had&nbsp; tobacco (pouches of drum) mailed from Canada to South Korea several times without any trouble.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Worldbridger]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-12-04T15:33:32Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I can&#039;t believe it&#039;s illegal to grow there!!&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/yikes.png" width="15" height="15" alt="yikes" />&nbsp; It&#039;s just a flower, for pete&#039;s sake! Grow it in your garden with a bunch of other flowers and they&#039;ll never know the difference <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" />&nbsp; <br />I wonder if someone in the US could ship the product to you?&nbsp; Is it also illegal to send tobacco through the international mailing system --say, for regular folk?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Seeking the Truth]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-12-04T13:06:48Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>just ordered seeds from here.&nbsp; 600 seeds for the price of a 50g pouch of tobacco ($25 aud).</p><p><a href="http://www.coffinails.com/index.html">http://www.coffinails.com/index.html</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[free*world]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-12-04T08:00:43Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yes, have been looking at this angle also.&nbsp; It is illegal to grow tobacco without a license here, however, I doubt anyone would even be able to identify it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[free*world]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-12-04T07:04:43Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m sure you could at least find some seeds.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[limukala]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-12-04T07:00:36Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi Debbie,</p><p>I&#039;ve been rolling my own for 15 years now, and cannot touch &quot;tailor mades&quot;.&nbsp; They taste like poison, burn in a minute, complete waste of money.</p><p>However, I&#039;m in Australia and cannot get organic tobacco.&nbsp; I&#039;ve searched and searched.&nbsp; I would love to try the American Spirit Tobacco, but they can&#039;t send here.&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" />&nbsp; If anyone knows any different, or any Aussie suppliers, then would love to hear about it.&nbsp; &nbsp;Cheers.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[free*world]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-12-04T01:48:27Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi ya&#039;ll,</p><p>This is my first post here as a new member. I&#039;ve been around for a while, but just got registered yesterday. I guess it&#039;s appropriate that my first post would be in the tobacco thread, since I&#039;ve smoked for a very long time.</p><p>I started rolling my own smokes over a year ago. At the time it was because of the money factor: buy a carton for $30 or roll my own for about $15. I didn&#039;t know at the time that this was a very good decision.</p><p>I later learned from an article--that I can&#039;t find <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /> -- the truth about &quot;cigarettes&quot;. It told of how the cigarettes today are anything but tobacco. Most of it is chemicals. They use very little of the plant. Actually, most of what they use is cellulose and other man-made fillers. The take this, combine it with a few stems and roots, lace it with chemicals to make it smell/taste like tobacco, and make a big soup pot of poison. This gets formed into &quot;sheet tobacco&quot; and is turned into cigs (marlboro, winston, camel). Very disturbing information for someone who&#039;s smoked that trash for 15 years!!</p><p>Anyhoo, the article goes on to reveal that most of the cancer causing effects from smoking are caused by these man-made chemicals and from the pesticides used to grow the tobacco. It was very interesting to read of all the pesticides used on tobacco. The bad part is that none of these pesticides have been tested appropriately in the respect of what happens to them when the are ignited and inhaled. The consequences of this are enormous.&nbsp; The pesticides are actually the most harmful part of smoking.&nbsp; Think about it, before the Industrial Revolution, humans smoked tobacco all their lives and didn&#039;t get cancer; only since the advent of pesticide use have we all been dropping like flies from lung cancer associated with smoking. </p><p>Upon reading this, I switched from the regular American Spirit tobacco in the blue can to the organic tobacco, as mentioned above by someone else. There are only a couple stores in town that carry the red pouches (nobody can get the cans), and they only have a few at a time on the shelf. After driving around town and finding it all sold out one day, I found a wonderful website selling organic tobacco. It&#039;s not the same as what you get in the store. It&#039;s actually the full leaves that you have to cut yourself.&nbsp; Which is fine with me, for it slows me down and makes it more of a ceremony--like it was supposed to be--instead of a mindless habit. I also learned from the man who runs this site the difference between the nicotine content as it pertains to the plant. The lowest leaves (lug) contain the smallest amount of nicotine, and have less tobacco taste. The middle leaves are &quot;cutter&quot; and have more nicotine. At the top of the plant (wrapper), the most nicotine will be found, but the taste is quite harsh.&nbsp; Most tobacco sold nowadays is a combination of different leaves.&nbsp; Very interesting information... </p><p>Sun Butler (the man who owns the website) told me that the American Spirit organic really is organic (I was worried that they were dupping the consumer). He actually set up the division for them and hooked them up with organic farmers. So if you can get ahold of the A.S. in the red pouch, then you&#039;ll be getting tobacco without pesticides. However, if you want the real deal, and want to cut down on smoking, I advise going to this website and buying your own leaves, which you can then process into your own cigarettes--and you&#039;ll know for certain what exactly is in your smokes.&nbsp; I have cut down on my smoking because of this, and I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what all my synchronicities have been leading me to.&nbsp; I hope to go further in being able to quit altogether, but for now at least I know where my stuff is coming from, rather than blindly accepting what they offer up as &quot;cigarettes.&quot;</p><p>BTW, if you&#039;re switching from name-brand cigs to real tobacco, watch out!! You will notice a difference, because you&#039;ll be smoking the real plant instead of chemicals. For the first couple days after starting to roll my own, I had headaches. I believe it was from coming off the chemicals. I noticed that every time I tried to quit, by the way, so it wasn&#039;t a headache from the real thing, it was withdrawal from the crap.&nbsp; Roll-your-own cigs are real tobacco, so be prepared for some stiff smokes!&nbsp; My friends can&#039;t handle them because they&#039;re so strong and they&#039;re used to the imitation. Oh, and also my cigarettes last twice as long as a Camel and they also go out on their own if you&#039;re not actively smoking it, which means less waste. Compare the amount of smoke coming off a RYO and a regular smoke--you&#039;ll be amazed!! Less of a fire hazard too <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>okay, well here&#039;s the site I found when doing a search for organic tobacco. I haven&#039;t found any other site that provides this type of whole leaf.&nbsp; It&#039;s <a href="http://grandadtobacco.com">http://grandadtobacco.com</a>. The prices are very reasonable when compared to the AS organic pouches available in the stores. They are out of Virginia. The only problem I had was that the ordering page was not secure, so I didn&#039;t want to order it online. I circumvented that by emailing him and explaining the situation. We got it worked out and I ordered over the phone. Sun Butler is awesome. Very kind and knowledgable. </p><p>On a side note:&nbsp; Thanks to all of you for being in this forum, and a special thanks to montalk for providing a place for us to come. I have already learned a great deal from being here. I have many questions/observations and I&#039;m hoping to receive some answers from all of you. You have my sincerest respect...</p><p>Debbie</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-12-03T16:38:01Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Don&#039;t get me wrong, I am a big fan of occasional tobacco consumption.&nbsp; My wife on the other hand, grew up in a family of heavy smokers, so can&#039;t really handle the whole moderation thing (and that EVIL witch of a mother-in-law bought cigarettes for her and CONVINCED her to start smoking again <em>when she was breastfeeding my daughter!!!!!!!!</em>&nbsp; She also filled our house with junkfood and tries to convince my wife that I am a manipulative bastard for encouraging her to not smoke or eat junkfood.&nbsp; Of course, this is because she weighs about 400 pounds and is in terrible health, but loves to talk about how it is all genetics, never mind the six pack of soda, 8+ hours a day of &quot;Judge Mathis&quot; type television, 8000 calories a day of junk food, and a pack a day of the cheapest, nastiest cigarettes.&nbsp; When her daughter lives a healthy and happy lifestyle, that directly challenges her &quot;its not my fault&quot; mentality (its a thyroid problem, or, &quot;you&#039;d better watch out for osteoporosis, it runs in the family&quot; (which just isn&#039;t true for short, thick boned people, but soda sure as hell suck calcium out of your bones).</p><p>Whew, sorry for the off-topic rant.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[limukala]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-12-03T06:38:53Z</updated>
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