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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi cameron,</p><p>Thanks for the info, I&#039;ll check out the HF website &quot;facelift&quot; this weekend, and as well, I&#039;m very much looking forward to reading any new sessions when they come available... sometimes I really miss rappin&#039; with the C&#039;s. It is very impressive that the Higher Forces have been channelled for so long... it says something about how the &quot;entity&quot; has been able to stay balanced through whatever imbalances life has to offer at any given moment.</p><p>My friend and I were talking a few weeks ago about the push for people to take cholesterol meds, she offered up the idea that they must somehow lower or alter a persons frequency, I&#039;ll have to share the above answer to the Vioxx answer with her. What gets to me is that some of those people who needed those types of drugs for&nbsp; arthritis/anti-inflammatory reasons are likely back in pain, it makes me sad for them... it&#039;s too bad they don&#039;t know about taking MSM with a digestive enzyme.</p><p>ET&#039;s in front, or either side? Well those are two things addressable... it&#039;s those sneaky critters that like to come up behind you knowing darn well one can only feel them because we don&#039;t have eyes in the back of our heads that are the real challenge. </p><p>The morning of my birthday I woke up, put my coffee water on to boil, sat down on the couch, and kinda spaced off for a few. All of sudden I saw my honey walk behind me and go into the kitchen, I jumped up remembering I had put water on to boil. I walked into the kitchen talking to my guy who, ahem, wasn&#039;t in there. He then walked in behind me and razzed me about who was I talking to... anybody? <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/roll.png" width="15" height="15" alt="roll" /></p><p>I&#039;ve seen stuff in my peripheral vision for quite a while now, but I have never seen any one of them look as solid as did the one that walked behind me the other morning. Chuckle... I wondered what the rest of the day would bring!</p><p>You know what I say about my pad... never a dull moment!</p><p>Huhn... have the HF ever said anything about smelling alter dimensional beings? </p><p>The other day we were driving down a busy city street, windows rolled up and AC on, and in an instant the cab of the truck filled up with the smell of moth balls. As instantly the smell went away. We were both coughing and gagging it was such a powerful odor of moth balls. I&#039;m just shakin&#039; my head about how and WHY this happens, it&#039;s okay when the smells are cookies or flower blossoms, but moth balls? GACK! It kinda creeped me out, didn&#039;t like it.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2004 20:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Session 559 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It is interesting to be voted that you can speak as a Senator on the floor to represent thousands upon thousands of people.&nbsp; The people&#039;s ideals are important to them and must be respected.&nbsp; And the responsibility is enormous that everyday of your life reflects that responsibility.&nbsp; There is that need to govern oneself through a voice, like that of John the Baptist crying in the wilderness.&nbsp; We all need to make straight the way for the Lord.&nbsp; So when the Senators do come together, they speak.&nbsp; Some speak on other subjects, but they should receive the reflections of what people want done.&nbsp; And what the people want done, it is up to the people to voice.&nbsp; They do not voice it, it cannot be done.&nbsp; Such is the way to the spiritual powers of true powers:&nbsp; through that of service and improving and making things always better.&nbsp; The days ahead are difficult days, but they do not have to be difficult days if you incorporate a positive attitude, a &quot;can do&quot; attitude, an attitude that blocks all negative thoughts, and only supports constructive ideas and ideals.&nbsp; Than that would be the furnace and focus point of your mind, that you would be the servant of the most High, that you will bring in the Law of One, that you will bring in balance and harmony in all that you do, that if you fail you get up again, that if you thought a thought that diminishes you, you remove it.&nbsp; Replace it with one much brighter.&nbsp; You cannot afford to give in to the luxuries of self-indulgence, feeling sorry and right at the same time.&nbsp; They are not constructive thoughts, they are not healthy thoughts, they are not your thoughts.&nbsp; The thoughts do not belong to you.&nbsp; Do not associate with them.&nbsp; Abandon them as quick as they come, that you will be standing in the light and in the power and in the force of creation.</p></blockquote></div><p>(<em><a href="http://higherforces.info/Session/267/Session559">Session 559, November 19, 1990</a></em>)</p><p>This excerpt seemed like one worth sharing.&nbsp; Also, for anyone interested, the <a href="http://higherforces.info">HigherForces.info</a> website got a facelift, and we&#039;ve added some new content.</p><p>Auendove - I know you were asking about some more recent sessions.&nbsp; There a 3 about to be published that cover some interesting topics.&nbsp; Here&#039;s a quick blurb:<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Session 667 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><em>CN:&nbsp; Speaking of drugs, this recent study about Vioxx -- the anti-inflammatory -- that forced them to pull Vioxx off the shelf, could you tell us anything about what that was doing to people or how it was affecting people; maybe even spiritually?</em><br />Forces:&nbsp; Unfortunately, it went against the very grain of the immune system.&nbsp; Even to the point of creating heart attacks within people adversely -- and death.&nbsp; It is a system of drug that counterbalances that of the electrical system in the body.&nbsp; Forcing it to go counter-clockwise when everything in the body is clockwise.&nbsp; So it is an adverse drug that should have never been allowed to go as far as it did.<br /><em>CN:&nbsp; How can help progress the awareness or the knowledge of what some of these drugs are really doing to people -- especially drugs for psychological health, like anti-depressants?&nbsp; I mean is there an activism or is there more research that should be pursued and is it reasonable to assume that some benefit could be gained by doing that?</em><br />Forces:&nbsp; The very first step and principle and that which is only right is the general statement to depend upon drugs is a crutch.&nbsp; And all who take drugs for mental well-being should turn from that and turn to practices of meditation and prayer.&nbsp; Drugs can help to a certain time element.&nbsp; But depending upon drugs takes away the very spirit of the individual.&nbsp; Now is that part of the World Order plan?&nbsp; We think it is.<br /><em>CN:&nbsp; Thank you.&nbsp; Could you just tell me briefly, how does those drugs, especially the anti-depressants, or others, affect how the extraterrestrials interact with humanity -- either through abductions or just for energy transfer?&nbsp; As we&#039;ve learned in past sessions, direct emotional energy is sometimes fed from, fed off of the humans.</em><br />Forces:&nbsp; It is a subject that not so many people understand.&nbsp; There are those extraterrestrials that are moving through your world.&nbsp; And many a times they are right in front of you.&nbsp; But because we are trained not to look or see them to our right peripheral or left.&nbsp; But we are taught only to look forward, that these extraterrestrials have power of moving through time and space.&nbsp; The real factor is that we become to understand that this world as it is now and as it was thousands of years ago, were involved and in thrust by the life force of extraterrestrials.&nbsp; It is the quality of being able to feel and understand their presence.&nbsp; And by taking drugs, it makes their ability to take over the individual much easier.&nbsp; It is a subject that needs to be broached.&nbsp; That to see an extraterrestrial is the quality of understanding.&nbsp; Because if you do not see one, it does not make them not exist.<br /><em>CN:&nbsp; Thank you.<br />IS:&nbsp; When you say the peripheral vision, so are you saying that they are not in the third dimension?&nbsp; They&#039;re not manifested wholly or fully?&nbsp; Or are they manifested fully as a physical body but we just keep seeing them as we see ourselves, but if we look, really look, we will see the difference.&nbsp; Is that it?&nbsp; Which one is it?</em><br />Forces:&nbsp; It is if we train ourselves to see right, than we can see their manifestation.&nbsp; It is we&#039;re taught differently how to look at things so we will not see them.&nbsp; We&#039;re not taught to look on the sides of our bodies.&nbsp; We&#039;re taught to look straight onward at things.&nbsp; This is why people demand the fact to see truth and to see the facts upfront.&nbsp; But in reality, truly to see the facts is to see it at peripheral levels.</p></blockquote></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2004 19:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Auendove wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Will you want to read about my thoughts, or would it be distractive on this page?</p></blockquote></div><p>Likely I&#039;m not the only one interested in your thoughts.&nbsp; Share and share alike!</p><p>Also, sorry for the late response, I&#039;ve been <a href="http://montalk.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=570">busy</a>.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2004 17:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>cameron wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Good question.&nbsp; Basically the term &quot;density&quot; was and is not really a term used by the Forces or the group that has been at the sessions.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yeah, rather late last night (LOL! possibly when you were thinking and writing about this... wouldn&#039;t surprise me!) I thought about how my experience was with the C&#039;s, and not the HF&#039;s. I thought about how I intuited the underlying energy of the C&#039;s, the HF, and as well Operation Terra&#039;s Heavenly Hosts, to be rather undeniably alike, and then once again recognized that the variations in terminology and tone of the messages are the product of the channels resonating the messages through their life experiences and energetic uniqueness. The channels are the variable, not the energy.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Higher Forces (quote #3) wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>We call this the fourth x-factor.</p></blockquote></div><p>Is there an actual mathematical relationship inferred here?</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Higher Forces wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Q: Could you give us a description of your dimension, what you experience what is it like?</p><p>Forces: If we want too. We have given some descriptions in the past of our relations with you all. The descriptions of the trees and the sun and the colors that you do not see sights in the .. It is a particular energy field, everyone here is almost like pure light. We could take on any physical structure we desire. Speak any language in the universe we wish. Move any place at any time at any second. Manifest two places at once if we wish, but be back at home for dinner. We love spaghetti. Only jesting. Food in itself is not a staple for us, spaghetti only belongs to the earth. We in itself can move from galaxy to galaxy, universe to universe, planet to planet, from star system to star system at any moment that we wish. There is tremendous creativity here constantly going on, and creative ability of new worlds that we have to watch and guide. There is an unfathomable amount of knowledge and wisdom being brought from all over the world, all over the galaxies, all over the universe. There is a continuum of sounds, of sights, of smells, that keep on growing and pulsating, with time there is none. It is a dimension that would be so exciting that one moment, one hour, one second within this dimension would mean that you would never be the same. Does that give you some understanding of part of it.</p></blockquote></div><p>Sure sounds a lot like the 6th density beings I&#039;ve &quot;met&quot; before. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" />&nbsp; &nbsp;Spaghetti... HA!&nbsp; This made me giggle, but so did the C&#039;s.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Higher Forces wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Q: Yes. Is it possible that we can reach that dimension?</p><p>Forces: Awareness, a oneness, attunement, is when you reach that particular center or dimension through the stillness within you. As you enter through that door you taste a little bit of this dimension, which will transform you consciously in the earth. It is that one must tune and when you do tune into this dimension you will not be the same person afterward. (reference)</p></blockquote></div><p>There&#039;s a lot of synchronicity for me within these two sentences <em>between</em> the two sources, many more words than are just these two sentences.</p><p>----------</p><p>And then I began reading through the session noted in your third and last quote... I think I was still half-asleep because I literally stumbled onto this!--</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Higher Forces wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> (within quote #3 reference) </p><p>J: Thank you. <strong>You said earlier in the session about centering an energy of blue when we’re faced with these alien influences. Can you explain what we would need to do or is that sufficient?</strong><br />Forces: <strong>Centering in the pineal gland a blue light, a prayerful attitude repels such attacks</strong> and declares, declares yourself of who… </p><p>[End of Side A]</p><p>D:… figures. Are they the ones you told me was the code, the Aborigine code?</p></blockquote></div><p>Holy She-ite!!!&nbsp; My jaw dropped and my eyes got as big as saucers when I read this. This HF session is from 1998, this being a little before the time I began finding the&nbsp; unique blue markings on my underarms (as well as were four other people I knew or had recently met, though some in different places on their bodies). When abduction issues were discussed by the C&#039;s (&#039;94/95?) one of the things they made abundantly clear was that consciousness raising is key in the cessation of abductions or any other aberrant force for that matter (one other example--organic viral agents), this I find to be elementally the same notion the Higher Forces related in &quot;...alien influences... prayer attitude repels such attacks&quot;.&nbsp; I would later find out in &#039;02 at a C&#039;s session regarding the blue marks--</p><p>&quot;It was an energy surge &quot;burn.&quot;&nbsp; EM in nature.&quot;&nbsp; A &quot;Realm curtain EM burst.&quot;&nbsp; </p><p>&quot;Blue color is physiological response the same way a blister is physical response to heat.&quot;</p><p>The response an outcome of an &quot;Intrusion&quot; [alien] into the energy field.</p><p>&quot;[The blue mark] simply denotes the nature of the defense in symbolic terms.&quot;</p><p>Now, my next question is--Given the words from the HF quote &quot;Centering in the pineal gland a <strong>blue light</strong>&quot; put me to the end of my chair, do you have any remembrance or idea what words completed this sentence?&nbsp; I would very much like to know more about the relationship between the pineal gland, the significance of the coloration blue (the coloration possibly a representation of the Christed energy?... and/or communication?), and the empowerment accomplished through prayer/consciousness raising?&nbsp; </p><p><strong>[</strong>a pre-posting editing note--I have since written this post well over five hours ago and have learned a great deal through comparing and contrasting the above and below information in my post, my personal experiences, intuition, and even further more research... I&#039;m tellin&#039; ya true, it was raining synchs at my pad this morning!<strong>]</strong> </p><p>Melatonin is a substance that is produced by the pineal gland, this is fairly common knowledge.&nbsp; The C&#039;s weren&#039;t real big on telling people what to do with their lives (though I think they did all as much as they could given the serious nature of free will), but they did indeed endorse melatonin as a supplement.&nbsp; I myself in the past 10 years have taken melatonin for about 7.5 years of that time. This next quote is poignant to what I write about above, some of the terms and phrases used by the C&#039;s and HF, but the rest of the article was fascinating to me as well, especially given my extended history with melatonin and some of the reality busting experiences I&#039;ve had.&nbsp; The whole article is recommended to fellow NRians as a must read if you&#039;re interested in the metaphysical aspects of the pineal gland.... although I would suggest that if another member (or maybe me) wants to discuss this material further it would be more appropriately so done on a new thread.&nbsp; </p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p><a href="http://www.strayreality.com/Lanis_Strayreality/thirdtyepinealgland.htm">http://www.strayreality.com/Lanis_Stray … lgland.htm</a></p><p>The pineal gland secretes melatonin during times of relaxation and visualization. <strong>As we are created by electromagnetic energy - and react to EM energy stimuli around us - so does the pineal gland</strong>. </p><p><strong>When activated, the pineal gland becomes <em>the line of communication with the higher planes</em></strong> . The crown chakra reaches down until its vortex touches the pineal gland. Prana, or pure energy, is received through this energy center in the head. With Practice the vibration level of the astral body is raised, allowing it to separate from the physical. </p><p>To activate the &#039;third eye&#039; and perceive higher dimensions, the pineal gland and the pituitary body must vibrate in unison, which is achieved through meditation and/or relaxation. <strong>When a correct relationship is established between personality, operating through the pituitary body, and the soul, operating through the pineal gland, a magnetic field is created</strong>. </p><p><strong>The negative and positive forces interact and become strong enough to create the <em>&#039;light in the head.&#039;</em> With this &#039;light in the head&#039; activated, <em>astral projectors</em> can withdraw themselves from the body, carrying the light with them.</strong></p><p>Astral travel, and other occult abilities, are closely associated with the development of the &#039;light in the head&#039;. After physical relaxation, concentration upon the pineal gland is achieved by staring at a point in the middle of the forehead. Without straining the muscles of the eye, this will activate the pineal gland and the &#039;third eye&#039;. </p><p>Beginning with the withdrawal of the senses and the physical consciousness, the consciousness is <strong>centered in the region of the pineal gland</strong>. The perceptive faculty and the point of realization are centralized in the area between the middle of the forehead and the pineal gland. <span class="bbu">The trick is to visualize</span>, very intently, the subtle body escaping through the trap door of the brain.</p></blockquote></div><p> </p><p>I think the bolded and italicized phrases speak for themselves in relation to the C&#039;s and HF quotes...the only thing that doesn&#039;t necessarily fit is my relating astral projectors to EM energy bursts, though you many not have known I was thinking that. Given a little more rope I would certainly be able to try to explain it though.</p><p>As well, I kinda get a pinched look on my face for the underlined words because I think multi-dimensional/density interactions CRUCIALLY entail more of a multi-level consciousness ALLOWANCE for subtle body in/out roads to be openable and traversable, rather than &quot;manufacturing&quot; this occurrence through visualization.&nbsp; But that&#039;s a reflection of me being a C-gal, and hard-core about the manner in which reality busting experiences are manifested.</p><p>The above quote and personal observations were to the end of drawing comparative likenesses between the C&#039;s and the HF, supporting the idea that they transmit from one in the same density. But cameron, I don&#039;t know if you are working on your research in this manner, by comparing the HF with a source such as the C&#039;s, and then contrasting it with &quot;outside&quot; information like the strayreality.com article. BTW--the Internet search for &quot;stray&quot; was: pineal gland+metaphysics.</p><p>Do the parameters of your beginning research into &quot;Higher Forces STO&quot; include considering musings like I&#039;ve posted above? Or are these types of observations distractive of your research?&nbsp; There&#039;s some material in another one of the sessions you referenced that&#039;s BLOWIN&#039; MY MIND when I compare it to the C&#039;s and think about it critically. </p><p>Safety first though, huh? Only one TNT detonation at a time, eh? <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /> Seriously gotta meditate on that one, and see what google magic will manifest later with searching. Will you want to read about my thoughts, or would it be distractive on this page?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2004 18:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Auendove wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Question--</p><p>In the 30 some odd years the Higher Forces have been transmitting through the channel nobody has asked EXACTLY which density they transmit from?&nbsp; Am I misunderstanding something and that&#039;s why I feel the need to ask this question... well, really rather increduosly?</p></blockquote></div><p>Good question.&nbsp; Basically the term &quot;density&quot; was and is not really a term used by the Forces or the group that has been at the sessions.&nbsp; For all intensive purposes, the Forces may use &quot;dimension&quot; as &quot;density&quot;, but they also may not.&nbsp; Most of our understanding (meaning, present company) of the semantics of &quot;dimensions&quot; and &quot;densities&quot; comes from the RA material (80s), and more recently the Cassiopaea Material (90s+).&nbsp; The Forces began channeling in 1972 -- before these sources and after Cayce.</p><p>This may or may not be significant in answering why the Forces chose the &quot;dimension&quot; terminology and not something a bit more accurate (but is it really, for our minds?) like &quot;density&quot;.&nbsp; In the Forces&#039; context, &quot;dimension&quot; is usually associated semantically with &quot;conscious awareness&quot; and also a realm of existence -- therefore it may or may not be equated with the C&#039;s/Ra&#039;s &quot;density&quot;.</p><p>Here are a few references to the concept of &quot;dimensions&quot;.<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Forces: There are 7 dimensions in total. You occupy the 3rd and 4th dimension. <a href="http://higherforces.info/Session/256/Session640">(reference)</a></p></blockquote></div><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Q: Could you give us a description of your dimension, what you experience what is it like?</p><p>Forces: If we want too. We have given some descriptions in the past of our relations with you all. The descriptions of the trees and the sun and the colors that you do not see sights in the .. It is a particular energy field, everyone here is almost like pure light. We could take on any physical structure we desire. Speak any language in the universe we wish. Move any place at any time at any second. Manifest two places at once if we wish, but be back at home for dinner. We love spaghetti. Only jesting. Food in itself is not a staple for us, spaghetti only belongs to the earth. We in itself can move from galaxy to galaxy, universe to universe, planet to planet, from star system to star system at any moment that we wish. There is tremendous creativity here constantly going on, and creative ability of new worlds that we have to watch and guide. There is an unfathomable amount of knowledge and wisdom being brought from all over the world, all over the galaxies, all over the universe. There is a continuum of sounds, of sights, of smells, that keep on growing and pulsating, with time there is none. It is a dimension that would be so exciting that one moment, one hour, one second within this dimension would mean that you would never be the same. Does that give you some understanding of part of it.</p><p>Q: Yes. Is it possible that we can reach that dimension?</p><p>Forces: Awareness, a oneness, attunement, is when you reach that particular center or dimension through the stillness within you. As you enter through that door you taste a little bit of this dimension, which will transform you consciously in the earth. It is that one must tune and when you do tune into this dimension you will not be the same person afterward. <a href="http://higherforces.info/Session/127/chapter-14">(reference)</a></p></blockquote></div><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>I do not know if you all understand this concept. But you are now in the third dimension. But understand this clearly that you are going in a cyclical pattern again. A circle pattern of on upward. And in the year 2011, you will open to what we call the flat door. The flat door or the door is just a box. It is a beginning to the fourth dimension. Your Earth is beginning to revolve into that area of space in its travel that has taken thousands and thousands of years through the first dimension. Then it went through the second dimension. And then it has gone through the third dimension. You are about ready to enter into the fourth dimension. But it is touching it. It will take another thousand to two thousand years before you enter totally into the fourth dimension as known. But the box is all, is the totalness of the fourth dimension. But we call this box the capsule and it gives you a essence of all that is in the fourth dimension at one moment. So, your voice is that of bringing and meshing the souls and preparing them for the fourth dimensional entrance, the entrance of a fourth kind. The fourth entrance or the entrance of the fourth factor. We call this the fourth x-factor. Your voice is the job of revealing this work and meshing the information of the beings around the Earth, through the Earth, in the Earth and, of course, the Council hears this of you. Your job is clear. To bring men and woman through this fourth dimension and get them ready for it. By the year 2011 it will be upon you. <a href="http://higherforces.info/Session/263/Session620">(reference)</a></p></blockquote></div><p>The one thing that continues to ring true is that the Forces do talk about an &#039;ascension&#039; or graduation to the 4th dimension -- but do not add on to that, &quot;and this is where we reside&quot; or &quot;and this is below where we reside&quot;.&nbsp; So again, it is mostly through inference and deduction that I think the Forces are channelling from 6th density (in Cassiopaean terms).&nbsp; </p><p>Now why they haven&#039;t been more explicit in explaining which realm exactly they do reside, perhaps this answer is not easily gathered.&nbsp; And perhaps it&#039;s meant to be that way.&nbsp; Perhaps they knew something about how human&#039;s like to rationalize &#039;what&#039;s what&#039;.&nbsp; Perhaps they were avoiding something or foreseeing unwanted 3rd dimensional rationalization.&nbsp; This is totally speculative and just some of my thoughts.&nbsp; Who knows.</p><p>But, as it is, the direct question will be asked:</p><p><em>Using the term &quot;density&quot;, defined as a realm of conscious existence, what &quot;density&quot; do you, the Forces, reside?</em>&nbsp; (TBA)</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2004 06:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>cameron,</p><p>One observation, one question (for now, initially)--</p><p>Observation--</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Higher Forces wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The room is at least 5 stories high. It would encompass 3 of the Empire State building in length.</p></blockquote></div><p>This just boggles my mind!&nbsp; I know &quot;off world&quot; technology supercedes anything we can yet conceive of, or I can conceive of, but this size notation blows my doors!&nbsp; Holy frijole amigo!</p><p>Question--</p><p>In the 30 some odd years the Higher Forces have been transmitting through the channel nobody has asked EXACTLY which density they transmit from?&nbsp; Am I misunderstanding something and that&#039;s why I feel the need to ask this question... well, really rather increduosly?&nbsp; </p><p>Sorry cameron, I TRULY hope this question doesn&#039;t peeve you, it is not meant to, okay?... I&#039;m just really curious.</p><p><strong>Edit</strong>--Thanks for posting all of this and I&#039;m certainly looking forward to what form your research takes... I&#039;m very, very interested to read what you find.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2004 15:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Auendove wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I thought I read recently through interacting with cameron that the Higher Forces were also channelled from 4th density, although until I read that I had always thought they were coming in from the 6th density, and I remember being really surprised because I always thought, or assumed, they were from the 6th because they &quot;felt&quot;&nbsp; much like the C&#039;s... maybe I just misread something.</p></blockquote></div><p>The Higher Forces may be 6th Density.&nbsp; I did, however, mention them as 4th density above.</p><p>After further consideration -- it appears the Forces are in reality more accuately designated as a 6th Density Entity Group.&nbsp; As usually happens when learning lessons, this understanding came from ruling out what appears to be unlikely and looking objectively at what remains.&nbsp; Personally, this is more of a return to my original intuition about which density the Forces reside (synchronous with Auendove&#039;s first intuition it seems).&nbsp; I was, however, always open to the possibility that they were 4th Density.&nbsp; Some of the reasons why it became possible that the Higher Forces are 4th Density entities are:</p><p>- They talk about interaction with what I&#039;ve come to understand as 4th Density entities (aliens and &#039;graduates&#039;); as well as 3rd Density Humans<br />- They talk about utilizing UFO&#039;s for transportation<br />- The entity (channel) talks about dealing and interacting directly with the Forces<br />- The entity has painted portraits (<a href="http://higherforces.info/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=280&amp;fullsize=1">1</a>, <a href="http://higherforces.info/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=294&amp;fullsize=1">2</a>, <a href="http://higherforces.info/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=290&amp;fullsize=1">3</a>, and <a href="http://higherforces.info/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=310&amp;fullsize=1">4</a>) of what I thought were the higher forces</p><p>More recently, and after some more advanced conversations, the following distinctions were made.</p><p>- The Forces network with a 6th Density Council<br />- They are described by the channel as &quot;ethereal&quot;; without physical bodies<br />- 6th Density entities can and do interact with 3rd/4th density entities<br />- The paintings have been further described as portraits of extraterrestrials and 4th density STO (3rd Density graduates)</p><p>It would explain how the Forces have come through at different times with distinctly different tones and &quot;personalities&quot; -- and yet always claimed to be from a group of overseers.&nbsp; This is in line with sources like the RA material and the Cassiopaea material.&nbsp; The Higher Forces speak about being part of a council that is charged with overseeing mankind&#039;s development, extraterrestrial interactions with humanity, and extraterrestrial&#039;s interactions with eachother.<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Cassiopaean&#039;s wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Zindar Council is a sixth level density council which spans both physical and ethereal realms and which oversees dramatic development points at various civilizational sectors in lower density levels.</p></blockquote></div><p>This may or may not be the same council as the Forces have spoken about -- but it certainly shares a close similarity in explanation.</p><p>Here are a few quotes from the Higher Forces concerned with or mentioning the Council.<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>To all here present to know we are in the area of and have seen great all of those not meeting and deciding fate. It is a sad ___ to notice that that which is the torch of freedom and your republic has turned into a big CEO, who tells and directs the president. We see that you are the members of a particular big company, but it takes the CEO’s to decide your president. You no longer have a voting power for privilege. And one vote, one person, not true. If they feel like it they can take the minorities and dump their votes, intimidate them, let them stand at home. We are up in arms about you allowing this. It cannot be allowed; it is wrong and a very base root. It is so wrong that we and the Council have deemed it necessary to have emergency meetings. <em>Therefore we have certain cause for tragedies to happen it will be the work to remind them of the responsibility that they have let loose. The tragedies are those dealing first with nature, then your financial, then there are two to be unleashed.</em> <a href="http://higherforces.info/Session/258/Session632">(reference)</a></p></blockquote></div><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Now you guys developed your way of rule, we of course are governed by the Council on high. Which in turn is given direction and feed issue and followed by the empire. <a href="http://higherforces.info/Session/259/Session622">(reference)</a></p></blockquote></div><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Yes, We do meet in a large chamber in our ship that is made of pure gold, pure gold. And the table is made of an alloid that is hextnite or hextanite that floats in the air. It beams forth into the physical body that we speak through. These wave-lengths are force beams that penetrate all ten of his centers. If one center is out of harmony, it would eventually destroy the communication. Therefore, if one center is not in harmony, we would not be able to communicate with you now. That is the physical structure and reason why these centers must be put into harmony, so that you will be able to communicate with us, the regions of this higher force. Our sphere of this room is pure gold so that the electrons that pass through our vocal cords, through the thought forms alone do we speak here. And these thought forms bounce off into this table of the sides which peruates the light visions into his centers. His centers are now that are speaking, and not his vocal cords. His vocal cords are moving, his mouth is moving only so that you will perceive. But his centers are vibrating and this is what you hear at this moment is the centers of this vehicle. The room is at least 5 stories high. It would encompass 3 of the Empire State building in length. <em>The numbers that sit at this council is 144,000 in which 3 members of the higher deities speak to you.</em> <a href="http://higherforces.info/Session/173/Session39">(reference)</a></p></blockquote></div><p>This topic is in part a way to explore some of the research that has come about while working with the Higher Forces material.&nbsp; It will be collated into published articles at some point.&nbsp; Any feedback or comments are appreciated.&nbsp; </p><p><em>If it&#039;s not obvious, the above should show at least that my research into this material is just beginning.&nbsp; I&#039;ve in no way made any conclusions or closed the door to what may or may not be true about this large body of work.&nbsp; Mostly it&#039;s enough to just continue getting the source material (audio) into transcribed form -- so that this kind of research can be more realistically done.&nbsp; Of course, my thanks to the Realm Goers and the Realm keeper-upper for allowing a vehicle for this type of non-mainstream exploratory research.&nbsp; Not to be overly dramatic, I&#039;m just aware of how rare it is to find a venue to discuss certain high-frequency ideas.</em></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2004 04:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Another interesting note about albumen--it comprises apx. 67% of the eggs liquid content. This not to far off from the 70% water the planetary and human bodies are comprised of.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>cameron wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The lessons can be learned often times only relative to experiences had.&nbsp; The magic of working with higher dimensional STO entities is the conscious awareness they have of our past and future.</p></blockquote></div><p>And throw into the mix of that that we may be those higher dimensional STO entities in the future. HA! Where does that leave us? Everywhere.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>cameron wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It seems clear that our future as STO candidates imbibes more and more this concept of increasing psychic awareness of others experiences -- a quantum leap in relationship between one and another -- to the point perhaps of being more adequately felt as a group consciousness.&nbsp; This while also firmly grounded in an individualized consciousness -- a unique personality.&nbsp; The Law of One with the individualized conscious nodal structure of cyclical learning.</p></blockquote></div><p>This much like--&quot;It&#039;s what humans don&#039;t share that keeps them divisible&quot;, yes?</p><p>Those were some beautiful words you wrote cameron. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Auendove wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Albumen... aka egg whites.   Maybe I was wrong about the egg cravings some of us had/have going, and it wasn&#039;t just about symbolism. DOH!</p></blockquote></div><p>This is interesting, thanks for pointing it out.&nbsp; No one caught that before -- heck, I didn&#039;t even know what albumen was.</p><p>The Dracula point is well taken.&nbsp; The Forces have a way -- as other prophets have had -- of using the seeker&#039;s personal experience to describe or make real a concept.&nbsp; It boils down to each of us being on our experiential cycle, each with unique and some similar experiences.&nbsp; The lessons can be learned often times only relative to experiences had.&nbsp; The magic of working with higher dimensional STO entities is the conscious awareness they have of our past and future.&nbsp; Surely free will must be upheld, but no harm in choosing words one might particularly relate with when explaining a topic such as reptilian abuses.</p><p>---</p><p>It seems clear that our future as STO candidates imbibes more and more this concept of increasing psychic awareness of others experiences -- a quantum leap in <em>relationship</em> between one and another -- to the point perhaps of being more adequately felt as a group consciousness.&nbsp; This while also firmly grounded in an individualized consciousness -- a unique personality.&nbsp; The Law of One with the individualized conscious nodal structure of cyclical learning.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 17:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Cameron,</p><p>Thank you for sharing the sessions, and I agree with you that there is a current of the C&#039;s energy in the Higher Forces transmissions.&nbsp; I noticed this the first time I read them a few years ago.</p><p>Is there an ETA on a new session?&nbsp; </p><br /><p>To others of you who have been craving eggs--</p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Higher Forces wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You have a thousand children to one thousand five hundred children in America, a day abducted, what does that mean, they disappear. What did they disappear for, their food, they like the children because there is no toxins in their bodies, therefore the toxicity of humans, you, stink, they don’t want you, there is too much toxicity’s, more metals, <strong>albumen</strong>, all sorts of …</p></blockquote></div><p>Albumen... aka egg whites.&nbsp; Maybe I was wrong about the egg cravings some of us had/have going, and it wasn&#039;t just about symbolism. DOH!</p><p>Huhn!... it is further interesting that egg whites are the part of the egg without cholesterol, and therefore healthy, given a healthy egg that is.&nbsp; I wonder how many people gave up eating eggs because of the cholesterol in the yolk and health concerns. Unless you&#039;ve ever eaten an egg white only omelet, you&#039;ll never know just how superior is a whole egg omelet.&nbsp; Maybe I need to have a &#039;lil heart to heart talk with my taste buds, eh? <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p><p>I know a lot of people were afraid of Dracula when they were kids, but I cannot tell you just how scared I was of Dracula when I was a kid. In fact I was commenting to AFB last week about this, and then I wondered why in the heck I was telling him how scared I was of Drac when I was a kid.&nbsp; I even went so far as to get myself a crucifix (not raised Catholic) and hung it on my bed post, otherwise I couldn&#039;t sleep because I was trying to fall asleep whilst scared stiff (hmmm... paralyzed? GACK!), just sure a vampire was going to come and suck my blood... and I would become one of them. Mummies didn&#039;t scare me, Frankenstien didn&#039;t scare me, Godzilla didn&#039;t scare me, etc., just the blood suckers.&nbsp; Bleh, bleh, bleh! </p><p>If syncs keep up at this rate I&#039;m going to have a list that rivals Santa&#039;s by December. And I&#039;m just shaking my head... lately this seems to be something I&#039;m doing upon awaking each day and one of the last things I do before I fall asleep at night.&nbsp; These are vewee, vewee intewesting times. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you SO much Cameron for taking the time to put that together.&nbsp; &nbsp;I appreciate it.&nbsp; It&#039;s interesting stuff, and yup, they definately do correlate with what the C&#039;s are saying.&nbsp; Thanks again!&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 06:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lyra -<br />To be brief, yes the Forces are in general alignment with what was given by the Cassiopaeans.&nbsp; Reptilians do eat humans, according to the Forces, and also are the major controlling faction.&nbsp; The Forces have given information concerning underground bases in connection with the Reptilian info.&nbsp; Basically, as you know from some of my other posts, I&#039;ve read the Cassiopaean Transcripts extensively, and came into awareness of the Higher Forces source and channel only afterwards.&nbsp; So your questions are about the same as my first questions.</p><p>Here&#039;s a quote that comes to mind:</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Forces: See, the reason why we are talking to you about these things – we know how traumatic it might be for you all, but you might as well know the truth instead of sticking your head in the sand. But we’ve talked many, many years about these people, the aliens all around us – all around you. Not us, but you. Fortunately, you’re in paradise of heavenly tours, you know, but… The Reptilian aliens, which are powerful, are on their way as their cyclical – they come every 4,000 years. And that’s who we’re fighting – not us of course – we are watching them fight, and conflicts are happening, and that’s… well, there’s lots of water traveled because these are the… Reptilians are underground… are called Dracule. What happened?</p><p>Q: You said ‘Dracula’, right?</p><p>Forces: Well, that’s where that guy comes from, because they need the blood from humans, and that’s where they had the children, ‘cause they needed to… see the energy… Do you get the picture, you know?</p><p>Do you want to sit here talking… get the film Dracula and watch it… you know… suck the energy, suck the blood, you know… slurpees… slurpees.</p></blockquote></div><p>(from an article I wrote about <a href="http://higherforces.info/Articles/105/Mt-Rainier-Underground-Base">Mt. Rainier&#039;s Underground Base</a> -- which needs updating)</p><p>Here&#039;s one more interesting quote on the subject of Reptilians:</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Session 613 - November 1995</p><p>Greetings to all here present. Now we are in this area, and have seen many changes that are coming about in the political field and endeavors of international and national control. We find that conflicts are still carrying itself on in this mood and great conflicts and battles are ensuing through the Isles of Jupiter. We also find that the Soviet Unions tables are filled with the selling and bartering of our own life, of remember that these extra aliens visiting and coming in this area are not friendly and we see tremendous conflict internally and above the earth, because the silvers (abhor such conflict) such so that you would have to take the conflict going, sealing itself off from… kind of helps you grow into a strong but aloft, all in all we find that these changes are coming closer and closer. As far as where would you like of course with these changes you do have the secret police on your side. We are trying to get people to understand the many changes and adapts in the world history, it is something like a rebirth and in so doing… seems like that in this session, you might have three to four individuals speaking, if that happens, pay no attention to the other three, the one that is speaking is the one you need to listen to. We know that in your society, knowing the many different changes and strange encounters that you meet with, we have a feeling that you are MacDonald Hamburgers, wonder what this means? Well the great arch is the symbol of the reptilian aliens, three arches is of a different race, but the double Mac burger, unfortunately, is an alien symbol and is the reptilian symbol from IO the planet celeste galaxy IO. In this we, we did not want to tell you everything that is happening, but we have just got confirmed and over our own TV screens, says more or less to say, the answer was &quot;what the heck&quot;. So it was that we tried to speak to you to that point in which we got confirmed to speak to you. MacDonald as you have the fast burger, is a reptilian controlled organisation world order style. It is something… it represents meat hamburger and your hamburger meat. It is controlled by and to infiltrate every government and country it can possibly get into and unfortunately, bear with us, there are microchips in the plastic, they are sending out waves and information and gathering of information and used as a front. We did not particularly want to tell you all this, because there is enough paranoia-ism going on at this very moment, but of course, MacDonald is used as an alien force phase front, by the world order and governments of both sides. So it is a convenient spot, there is nothing wrong with it, but you need to understand where it is coming from. It will be controlled and it will be usefuL not only for the reptilian aliens, but also for us, we will take advantage of it. Of course you will say, well, what does this mean to us, hmm everything and nothing, everything because there are many different changes coming, and in this part of the things that are coming, we find that the labels and symbolisms are more pronounced than ever before. There is the question of how do you know the alien reptilian force or alien reptilian in front of you? There are many different caricatures of a reptilian person, this is what I would consider the breakdown of reptilian knowledge or you knowing the fact that the reptilian society alien creatures as we spoke about many years ago, are on their way back. Needless to say, what does this impact apply upon us, being that we are here and the representation of this force, you are protected in that very presence of our presence of this particular mode of creature, therefore, they cannot touch you. It is not you we worry about, but the force of others that are into our line and breaking out and sharing of this protection is our main goal. We still have not answered the question, we know. How can you discern a reptilian alien in front of you? You can’t, why can’t you? you can’t. Well that phone call is good but we must not break this connection. How can you tell, they have slits in their eyes lateral or known as cats eyes.</p><p>1. obstacle.</p><p>2. Scales. There are Ã…“rtain scale-like creatures that being of reptilian nature, their scales would be found below the ear lobes or in back of the ears, they are scale nature substances.</p><p>3. You would find more or less a foul smell, occasionally coming from them, they cannot process the food or air vitally right.</p><p>4. They do try to interfere and block information, they do not particularly like this information coming through.</p><p>5. They are mathematical, very’ very astute to mathematics and very wise in calculus.</p><p>6. They find themselves to be always finger digital movement mild force, in short they have a problem of fingers always moving, reptilian fingers always move they do not stay still.</p><p>7. Serpent tongue. The tongue is quick and strange as it is there are some reptilian humanoids that have snake lizard shaped tongues that dart out., that you don’t particularly want to hear, we knew.</p><p>8. Then you have scales on the fingers and the third digit finger has a scale within a scale, moon within a moon, this is very difficult for them to cover up, they can become humanoid in certain form, but the third finger has three or two moons on it, this is a quick give away, no one is supposed to know this, you do.</p><p>Are they dangerous, they can be very mean and nasty, have no respect for your children or younger creatures, in fact they particularly like storing of younger creatures for their food supply. What does this mean, they abduct children? You have a thousand children to one thousand five hundred children in America, a day abducted, what does that mean, they disappear. What did they disappear for, their food, they like the children because there is no toxins in their bodies, therefore the toxicity of humans, you, stink, they don’t want you, there is too much toxicity’s, more metals, albumen, all sorts of ….your ecological damage, you are a disaster to their systems. They are meat eaters and unfortunately, this is the story. <strong>Now, these reptilians are nasty creatures, apart, they look upon the human race with disparaging ways, they have no regards for you as humans, in fact they have contempt for humans. They do not like humans, they do not like humans, we could all say together THEY DO NOT LIKE HUMANS. Well new that the first lesson continues, now we have fulfilled this information, reptilians are not your friends.</strong> In this way (we don’t have to repeat that) we find that reptilian aliens are not good God-like creatures, in fact on a scale of one to ten, of one not being too bad and ten being the worst, they rate a sole total of thirteen, so, what we would say, these creatures are obnoxious, devious, man-eaters and like children, they also have a certain habit of fouling the air, when they are in or nearby and they have a certain aspect of total dislike for things other than themselves. What we are all trying to show you here, being &quot;What the heck&quot; was the command it is to share with you this information, not to alarm you, but it has been said that the reptilians are coming back. Reptilians are also a part of the Satan- Lucifer family, where they have wings and bat wings in the back scales and have all the characteristics we have just spoken about, that is why the church had taken it upon itself, the last time they were here, around the 14th century, 15th century and 13th century, that they prepared the people and strengthened them for these evil ones, what they did then, there was no control over, though what you could not see this, they could do anything they wanted to then and you know it is almost different now, but they think it is the same, that they could do anything they want to, well – not with us being present here and the force of our presence in this making. <span class="bbu">Unfortunately, they cannot do everything they want to then, which is fortunate for yourselves.</span></p><p>Q: When the reptilians arrive in two to three months, are there any specific occurrence we might look for?</p><p>Forces: First of all, as we said, let us focus not on just one race, but a whole lot of races, people have a feeling that they will be good, when they find out that they are not good, then they are bad, and if they are bad their not good. Of course you will not interfere with that particular interaction, but I think we answered the question whether they are good. We cannot answer any more that they are good or not, they are just plain downright bad.</p><p>Q: The UFO that–––and I saw, and we didn’t see it in its entirety, was it good or was it evil.</p><p>Forces: What color was surrounding it?</p><p>Q: Orange.</p><p>Forces: Then we would say that it was a reptilian force. The orange color is another scale of information, you see ships in the sky, if they have an orange… glowing force around it, then you know 99.9% that you will be their Big Mac.</p><p>Q: When the reptilians come, is part of their aim to release this entity off the island and part of the world order is to control that entity for our purposes or their purposes against the reptilians?</p><p>Forces: Well that can be applied, but it is also their ability to infiltrate, take over the earth in a negative form, which of course, we will not allow to happen, because we represent that force of Mighty Mouse. We give a secret in that little explanation, but their force is that they have been here many thousands of years ago and are just coming back to see what has been done, how the people have advanced and what has been accomplished.</p><p>Q: Why did they leave, or what made them leave in the first place?</p><p>Forces: Because they are on a cyclical journey and their comet and force of energy has to be moved wherever they are at, has to be reflective of the energy field that is allowing them to be.</p></blockquote></div><p>(from <a href="http://higherforces.info/Session/125/chapter-12">Chapter 12</a> of the Excerpt Book)</p><p>Thought you all would be interested in hearing some of these ideas the Forces have expressed.&nbsp; </p><p>Frankly, this source has been talking about aliens, HD reality (no not &#039;high definition&#039; - but isn&#039;t it interesting how that&#039;s the next television technology - HD TV?), underground bases, NWO, conspiracy topics since 1972.&nbsp; The synchronicity between this source and other more current sources leads me to one highly probable possibility.&nbsp; These realities do exist.&nbsp; And due to the implications of this existence for our understanding of reality, it seems to require a critical seat in one&#039;s study, awareness, and conscious development.&nbsp; Spiritual evolution, in other words.&nbsp; But is this seat filled with most people?&nbsp; Do others, like some of us in the Noble Realms, seek to know the truth about who the Reptilians <em>really</em> are?</p>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yes, they say some are good. Just like some humans are good while other humans are bad.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>4D STO wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Forces: No. Let us try to give you an explanation. That Empire was challenged by Ulsa Minor and Ulsa Major. That is your other Empires. These are the ones that eat humans – you. These have an appetite, you are their delicacies.</p></blockquote></div><p>There are different factions. I&#039;m sure Zeta Reticuli (1+2+3) has some wise, good Drachonoids. Remember that above the lizzies lie the 5D STS &quot;human-like&quot; entities. The lizzies are manipulated when STS and objectively adherent to the natural laws when STO. As is all.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Higher Forces STO]]></title>
			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=4177#p4177</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I admit, I don&#039;t have much patience tonight toread through the entire transcript (I&#039;m just so biased towards the C&#039;s material!!&nbsp; hehe)&nbsp; buuuuut....I just want to clarify something..........it seems to me from the chunk I did read so far that the Higher Forces are claiming that the Reptillians aren&#039;t so bad.&nbsp; That they caused our fall from Eden to give us our &quot;independence&quot;, so we could procreate whenever we wanted (?) and I guess do whatever we wanted whenever we wanted.&nbsp; &nbsp;So, they &quot;liberated&quot; us, I guess is what I&#039;m understanding here?&nbsp; &nbsp;And also, that Reptillians aren&#039;t bad,&nbsp; &nbsp;they&#039;re actually &quot;fair in stature, and refined, and they’re good.&quot;</p><p>??&nbsp; Am I understanding this correctly?&nbsp; I just want to make sure I&#039;m not misunderstanding.&nbsp; &nbsp;I haven&#039;t read any other HF transcripts, so I don&#039;t have the complete picture on everything they&#039;ve had to say on the Reptilians, so maybe in other transcripts they have negative things to say about them.</p><p>Which leads to my next question (for Cameron I guess, since he&#039;s the only one here who&#039;d know this)&nbsp; but to the best of your knowledge Cameron, do you ever recall the Higher Forces mentioning anything about Reptilians eating people?&nbsp; &nbsp;Having human body parts and entire bodies stored for consumption?&nbsp; &nbsp; Did they ever mention the Reptillians feeding on human sex / anger / fear energy?&nbsp; Have they ever talked about the Grays?&nbsp; &nbsp;If so, what was their assessment on them?&nbsp; &nbsp;The C&#039;s claim that the Grays are cybergenetic robotoids basically, pawns of the Reptillians who do their abductions.&nbsp; The Grays report to the Reps and have no souls, only a hive mind.&nbsp; &nbsp;They also absorb human and cattle fluids through the skin to sustain themselves.&nbsp; &nbsp;Do the Higher Forces concur?&nbsp; &nbsp;</p><p>Thanks for any feedback you can provide.....</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Higher Forces STO]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>4D STO wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Q: I keep getting the message majority that the Reptilians are the bad guys, but then from time to time I keep receiving that they did some stuff that was good, or that was in the… l don’t understand.</p><p>Forces: They were not bad, but for the sake of not judging, it’s best to say they were the instrument that got you out of the Garden of Eden.</p><p>Q: That’s pretty bad.</p><p>Forces: Not unless you were knowing that the Garden of Eden from the Gods kept you as slaves there. <strong>Listen, if you had to pick fruit all day long, you would get tired of it.</strong></p><p>Q: Were the Reptilians as is depicted a fallen angel or a messenger of God?</p><p>Forces: They were not that bad, but they became bad because they gave you the knowledge that you could procreate any time you wanted to. They were subjected by the gods to tum you on and off when they wanted you to. He came along and told you you could do it anytime. Which made you very what?</p></blockquote></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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