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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>zenden wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>... its so damn synchronistic and lot of stuff on here at NR has been lately--so look at this </p><p>Q: (L) Also, there was a supernova that became the Crab<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;Nebula, which occurred 5,000 years ago, yet was not seen<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;on earth, which was 900 years ago, which happens to be<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;exactly the time period I have been looking at as having<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;been a turning point where seeds were planted that are now<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;bearing fruit.&nbsp; Can you tell us if this supernova that was&nbsp; (SEEDS?&nbsp; what seeds?)&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp;seen 900 years ago, were there effects from the Supernova<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;that contributed to this state of affairs at the<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;culmination of the Dark Ages, the creation of the Templars (and everybody STOLE their stuff, =the GOOD guys)<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;and so forth.&nbsp; What were the effects of this supernova<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;that was seen 900 years ago?</p><p>A: Excitation of base liquid molecules.&nbsp; (For eventual DNA crystallization?)<br />Q: (L) Did this have a physiological effect, or genetic, DNA effect on people?&nbsp; (Will it do it again, soon?)<br />A: Slight.<br />Q: (L) What were the pronounced effects that one would have<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;been able to note.&nbsp; That is microscopic...&nbsp; (SO its in the genes, in the cells, cells have memory, genetic karma)<br />A: Growth.&nbsp; (Redemption, maybe by reincarnation even)<br />Q: (L) Growth in what sense?&nbsp; Growth and change in the size<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;of people?<br />A: Close.<br />Q: (L) Growth in a psychological or mental sense?<br />A: Close.<br />Q: (L) What kind of growth specifically?&nbsp; (Overpopulation, pods, unsoulled beings, fakes, a big mess)<br />A: Both.<br />Q: (L) You mentioned the importance of the Horsehead Nebula in relation to the symbol of the Knight.&nbsp; What is the<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;significance of the Horsehead Nebula?<br />A: Keep up your search, as you are near. <br />Q: (L) What would be the effect of cosmic rays emitted by a&nbsp; (Veilakovsky)<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;supernova that is in some proximity to the earth on the<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;human body?&nbsp; (So if it happens every 13,000+ yrs then here we go, again=the new human, 2012, the ascension)<br />A: Genetic splice of strand.&nbsp; (CHANGING DNA, again?, also the tampering with our original, etc)<br />Q: (A) Now this supernova that is supposed to explode soon,<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;will it be soon in the sense of our SEEING it, that is the arrival of the light from this, or soon in the instantaneous sense?<br />A: Optically.<br />Q: (L) So, this supernova must have already occurred?&nbsp; (Repeated cycles of destruction, which r necessary)<br />A: Yes.<br />Q: (A) But, if it already occurred, then this means that the instantaneous effects have already been felt, even if it<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;was lesser than the optical effects.&nbsp; It must have been recorded by anomalous changes in genes? (L Is that true?<br />A: Close.</p></blockquote></div><p>A strange sync here, after reading this thread and the funny Horsehead Nebula topic, I was searching for &#039;rods and cones&#039; + veil , because I am getting a lot of rods/cones in my eyesight recently, (when looking straight up suddenly) and wondered if this was anything to do with the &#039;veil&#039;, (and not retinal detachment) So I got to this site ..&nbsp; </p><p><a href="http://www.capefearastro.org/newsletters/2002/november_newsletter.htm">http://www.capefearastro.org/newsletter … letter.htm</a></p><p>Just an astronomical site, but with this message..</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Revving-Up Those Hot Rods - by Debbi Hayden<br />...In order to make the most of your time spent in the dark, it is important to get your eyes fully dark-adapted. As many of you already know, the longer you remain in the dark, the easier it is to see the fainter objects in the night sky. Even just a glimpse at someone&#039;s car headlights or interior lights can set your dark adaptation back 30 minutes.</p><p>The reason for this has to do with the way the cones and rods of your retina work. The following diagram shows the time course of dark adaptation. It is a two branched function - one for the cone receptors and the other for the rods.</p><p>You can see that the first phase of dark adaptation has the cones decreasing in sensitivity, until they are no longer a factor. After approximately ten minutes, the rods become the more sensitive receptors, and continue to increase their sensitivity over the next twenty minutes. After thirty minutes, the rods are going to be at their most sensitive, and you will be ready to try for the faintest of the fuzzies!</p><p>The rods and cones are not evenly distributed throughout the retina. The diagram below shows the basic appearance of the central portion of a retina.</p><p>The macula is where all of the cones are most tightly packed - 6 to 7 million of them! Visual acuity and resolution are much better with the cones versus the rods, so the macula is where all of your &quot;detailed&quot; vision takes place. The optic disk contains no light-detecting cells at all - this is your &quot;blind spot&quot;. It is the direct connection to your brain, along which all information gathered by the rods and cones travel to the visual cortex of the brain.</p><p>The rods are located throughout the rest of the retina (120 million of them!) and are more responsible for night vision and motion detection. Rods are 1000 times more sensitive than cones, and in optimum conditions, can be triggered by a single photon! This is why when you are trying to see something very faint through your telescope, or even with the naked eye at night, it is best to not look directly at the object. Looking at the object makes the image fall on your macula where the cones are. In the dark, your cones are not really functioning, so use averted vision and look slightly to the side (or above or below) what you want to see. This has you using the sensitive rods and it will suddenly appear much brighter.</p><p>In a little more technical terms, the receptors contain photopigments. These photopigments undergo changes that stop them from sending visual signals to the brain when they absorb light. When in darkness, these changes are reversed.<br />.............The practical application of all of this? Be courteous at all observing sessions and star parties by replacing those white trunk lights with a red bulb, and turn off the headlights when approaching your fellow amateur astronomers&#039; meeting site. Allow approximately 30 minutes before attempting to spot some of the more elusive nebulae, such as the <strong>Horsehead and the Veil</strong>. Have a great time observing!</p></blockquote></div><p>Rods and cones actually <strong>face away from incoming light</strong>, which passes by these photoreceptors before being reflected back onto them.&nbsp; Light causes a chemical reaction <strong> beginning the visual process.</strong> - Or the illusion ?</p><p>Windrunner tantalisingly mentioned this the other day..</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Windrunner wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>.....&nbsp; I would add that I have met a number of people who have trained the previously unused rods and cones of their physical eyes to the point from which they can see a much broader range of the light spectrum than is normally the case.&nbsp; Doing this does not require any psychic abilities at all, just an opening up to the vast unused potential of our physical bodies.&nbsp; I also have heard of some rather extraordinary healers who are able to accurately diagnose illnesses by smell.</p></blockquote></div><p>and this from SiriArc<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>SiriArc wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The Jacob&#039;s Membrane (also known as the &quot;Layer of Rods and Cones&quot;) is the nineth (9th) of the layers forming the retina of the human eye that light reaches after entering the eye: That is, after light from outside the body enters the eye through it&#039;s main structures of the cornea, aqueous humour, pupil, lens, etc..</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; The retina is composed of several layers which, together, form the &quot;screen&quot; in the eye onto which an image of the area viewed by the eye is formed, and information about that image is segmented into packets of information that are passed to the visual cortex of the brain via the optic nerve.</p><p>&nbsp; &nbsp; The retina is a fairly complex membrane consisting of 10 distinct layers. The most important layer from a detection standpoint is the next-to-innermost layer, called Jacob&#039;s membrane. Jacob&#039;s membrane contains the actual detector cells — more than 100,000,000 cells called rods and cones. There are 10 times as many rods as there are cones.</p></blockquote></div><p>Everything but the kitchen sync.&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/cool.png" width="15" height="15" alt="cool" /></p>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>SiriArc wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>[center]<strong><span style="color: red">[size=16]This Distorted matrix</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: red">Will NOT</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: red">Be reloaded. </span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: red">That potential</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: red">Has Been </span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: red">ERADICATED[/size]</span></strong>[/center]</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you for this contribution here. I just wanted to add that this is exactly the same message I have recieved from other aermm &#039;insider&#039; type sources. That this reality will be and is being concluded by the influence of some high intelligence. It will then be up to all of us to create the New Reality.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 12:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>[center]<strong><span style="color: red">[size=16]This Distorted matrix</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: red">Will NOT</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: red">Be reloaded. </span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: red">That potential</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: red">Has Been </span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="color: red">ERADICATED[/size]</span></strong>[/center]</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 06:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>i dug up this thread, a 2012&#039;er wanting to show how cycles and repetitive cycles go with the planet and us as humans on it.&nbsp; &nbsp;this has been on the mind for days and days. someway a return to ancient days as the destiny, as a big possibility.&nbsp; &nbsp;now--here we have what the C&#039;s say about how it will all start over again and ive been feeling that.&nbsp; dont really know if there are ways to entirely get rid of a planet.&nbsp; or a soul.&nbsp; theyre energy modalities so they just transform.&nbsp; looks like a lot of work and with alot of debris and fall-out literally to completely blow a planet and its inhabitants but surely it could be done but maybe thats not useful in the grand scheme of things.&nbsp; maybe no need to eliminate a planet, or souls so either one looks like they re-cycle in cycles.&nbsp; and ive read this C&#039;s quote about 4 times lately and i see it difft each time.&nbsp; much less when reading it orig yrs ago.&nbsp; i have always had the feeling how this may work.&nbsp; when one gets here, the choice has already been made soulwise out of many options but many are trying to understand why that choice was made.&nbsp; (they said that in the matrix movies).&nbsp; this concept is very striking as it can be applied a few difft ways.&nbsp; but all the ways relate.&nbsp; so heres the thing im thinking on it and wanted to show the other day.&nbsp; destiny is involved in here. it just feels like it works this way, is pragmatic and reasonable:</p><p>1.&nbsp; ancient ppls knew alot of stuff.&nbsp; ALOT and where did they get that?&nbsp; from where?&nbsp; how did the celts, the egyptians, the maltese, the phonecians, the greeks, and ad infinitum even the atlanteans get their knowing and whole civilizations?&nbsp; obviously form somewhere before.&nbsp; they lived it and it grew as it grew but foundations for such came with them.&nbsp; they came in somehow knowing and teaching.&nbsp; customs and cultures and belief systems, from architecture to healing and mercantilism and just on and on.&nbsp; and all the mysteries and wonders when u look at humans and history on this planet.&nbsp; i think its recycled from somewhere and were about to do it again.&nbsp; that is re-cycle.&nbsp; since i dont think its gonna blow here. how does one get the skills to build notre dame or to build the great wall of china. or ?&nbsp; theyre &quot;god&quot; - given one could say but there seems more to it.&nbsp; did they do it somewhere else and have it down?&nbsp; talents and skills and knacks for things make me think one has always had them and they grow and diminish depending on use, opportunity, etc.&nbsp; </p><p>2.&nbsp; here may be the clues to the &quot;new earth&quot; where it may start all over again and those that want to stay here may and will and they then are the leaders of tomorrow but its coming in from and with what we know now as who we are.&nbsp; always talking of wanting a better world so here&#039;s the chance.&nbsp; its a 3D to 4D shift but with retention as a wanderer who finally decided on a home or an ex-3D&#039;er who feels like being a teacher, or a wise person or a seer, who brings in what they know from the world they were in before.&nbsp; hard to parse this down since its big but u get the drift.&nbsp; this could get huge and illustrative but doesnt need to.&nbsp; was the oracle at delphi only seeing what she&#039;d seen when she lived in that very time period, from the past or the future?&nbsp; that she predicted?&nbsp; if u were there, u could certainly attest to such--to events, to inventions, to better ways of living, using techniques from an extinct modern day world with new injection of simple yet modern concepts into an &quot;ancient&quot; world, telling ppl about all kinds of things since u had lived with them before.&nbsp; so these concepts are brought to the ppl in that ancient world and it looks miraculous.&nbsp; when its just evolution of concepts that that world hasnt had time to deal with and bring to fruition yet.</p><p>3.&nbsp; methinks thats how we as the individuals we are have been what we say we are.&nbsp; &nbsp;and how that is and was the destiny and how that may work this way.&nbsp; im only using this archetype thing i have going here as an example.&nbsp; so--i say i was a crone before and feel and look like one now.&nbsp; is that because i am only seeing the future where i stay and remain here on earth after some sort of realm border crossing galactic turnaround so am making and wishing a future where that living as a crone wise woman thing actually plays out?&nbsp; so instead of seeing the past (yet thats there...) may be seeing the future with intention and wanting that outcome.&nbsp; u know its been said that intention IS the outcome.&nbsp; remain on earth / earthbound only with 4D skills with a 3D memory of all this.&nbsp; wishing it so also.&nbsp; as destiny.&nbsp; keep thinking its remembered but maybe its actually what will come yet to be.&nbsp; so all the looking and studying and seeking leads to being a crone that brings modern day medicine to old ancient of days so i look all wise but its only aspirin used from the bark of a willow tree, but to somebody in pain on that world it can bring relief and it looks like magic, when its only common knowledge from a 3d earth that came and went before.&nbsp; is that how native ppls knew how to use certain herbs and how to bore holes in heads and build towers, and ..... because they retained part and parcel from before.</p><p>4.&nbsp; if u want to BE some sort of starter upper of a new world then this may be ur/the chance.&nbsp; get to be real wizards and magicians (not that we arent now!) or be or refine anything u want to be with some semblance of memory retention upon arrival into the next shifted world (all is not lost they say this time on cross-over)&nbsp; so this opens up a ton of possibilities.&nbsp; </p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>from the C&#039;s #41116:</p><p>Q: (L) If the mother planet that the human race was seeded on originally, is burned up, or turned into a cinder, I would like to know how it burned up?<br />A: Star expanded.<br />Q: (L) Well, if the star expanded, it must have expanded recently, is that correct?<br />A: Time does not measure that way in that realm.<br />Q: (L) What realm is that?<br />A: Time/space warp.<br />Q: (L) What do you mean by a time/space warp?<br />A: Too complicated but you already have some understanding of concept.<br />Q: (L) So, the star expanded and the mother planet was turned into a cinder. If this was the case, it means that it must have turned into a cinder very close to the point, using time loosely, when human beings were created?<br />A: You can&#039;t even use it loosely.<br />Q: (L) Would you help me out here. I&#039;m trying to figure out why, if that planet was turned into a cinder, why were human beings seeded there... what was the point in being brought into being on a planet that was very shortly to become a cinder... a crispy critter...<br />A: Okay. Now: &quot;Shocker&quot; For you. It hasn&#039;t become a cinder yet.<br />Q: (L) Okay. What is it. You told us it was a cinder... burned up... what is the real story here?<br />A: It will be at the same &quot;time&quot; that you go to 4th density. The human race is currently being formed on D&#039;Ahnkiar.<br />Q: (L) What do you mean that the human race is currently being formed on that planet? Is that because that planet is this planet?<br />A: No. That closes realm grand cycle. <br />Q: (L) Are you saying that there are human beings being created on that planet at this current time...<br />A: Yes, you are. Your race is forming there.<br />Q: (L) How?<br />A: Realm crossing understand?<br />Q: (L) Are you saying that there are 4th density bodies being formed there...<br />A: No. 3rd.<br />Q: (L) There are 3rd density bodies... are we going to leave the bodies we are in and go into other bodies?<br />A: You are drifting... Think carefully. Realm is derivative of reality. Cycle.<br />Q: (L) So the human race is being formed on this other planet at the present time...<br />A: Yes.<br />Q: (L) And at the time of the realm border crossing, this other planet will then become cindered... burned up...<br />A: Yes.<br />Q: (L) Where will the human beings go that are being formed on that planet at the time of the realm border crossing?<br />A: Ancient earth.<br />Q: (L) They will go to ancient earth? <br />A: There is no time as you know it; its all just lessons for the collective consciousness.<br />Q: (L) So at the closing of this grand cycle everything will just start all over again?<br />A: Not exactly; you see, there is no start.<br />Q: (L) Are a lot of souls on the earth going to recycle into these new bodies coming onto the earth?<br />A: Yes.<br />Q: (L) As ancient mankind?<br />A: Yes.<br />Q: (L) And do the whole thing all over again?<br />A: Yes.<br />Q: (L) So, in other words, a lot of people are going back to square one?<br />A: Close.<br />Q: (L) Is this punishment.<br />A: No. Nature.</p></blockquote></div><p>everything we talk about on NR from non-linear time, seeing the future and the past from many POV&#039;s even simultaneously, journey of the soul, 2012, planetary crises, shifting realities, roles, intention, etc even new humans or races of as has been predicted (are we the 5th root?) as in ROOT.&nbsp; could be played out in this scenario.&nbsp; its how the nature of planetary existence seems to work.&nbsp; so its a sci-fi movie with a really cool theme.&nbsp; so u wanna be a princess and feel like u were one but cant quite put the finger on it, this is the chance to now really get to be one, when u were prob one before but may be seeing urself in the future but it looks like the past--the point being its a grand time-loop and u may be preparing here for the next journey but its here on earth only back to ancient days by being HERE right now to exit into it.&nbsp; what a script.&nbsp; lots of possibilities.&nbsp; if even.&nbsp; thats why gotta love those C&#039;s.&nbsp; man, they cover so much that is entertained in the human psyche and seem to impeccably know man well, and the nature of mankind.&nbsp; u know after all--they say theyre us and its clearly obvious how that could be.&nbsp; back to square one may a gas if one is really into wanting to start it all over again but this time with KNOWLEDGE coming in, and not having to scramble and scatter and go thru the games to get it.&nbsp; exit shortcut to ??? whatever u want to be.&nbsp; sounds like fun but much hard work yet?&nbsp; better than crat land if alive and kicking.&nbsp; and what opportunities.&nbsp; staying open.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 23:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well according to the Cassiopaean transcripts, at the time when Laura Knight began channeling these beings in 94&#039; the Cassiopaeans states: </p><p>Q: (L) Will there be atomic war? <br />A: No. <br />Q: (L) Will there be a war in the sky with the aliens? <br />A: Yes. <br />Q: (L) Will it be between Orions and the Federation? <br />A: Yes. <br />Q: (L) Will it be visible on earth? <br />A: Oh, yes. <br />Q: (L) When will this be? <br />A: It has already started. Will intensify steadily. <br />Q: (L) Why are we not aware that it has already started? <br />A: It is disguised at this point as weather. It is still in other <br />dimensions. Will go to this one within 18 years. Anytime within this <br />period. The absolute time is not determinable as to exactly when. It <br />could be tomorrow or 18 years from now. <br />Q: (L) 18 years from now is 2012. Is there some special significance <br />to that time? <br />A: Yes. </p><p>So according to those statements alien ships are supposed to be arriving on earth around the time of 2012 but also:</p><p>Q: (L) Is this the cycle understood by the Mayans? <br />A: They understood partially. <br />Q: (L) Their calendar extends to 2012... is that accurate as to the time of the realm border change? <br />A: Close. Still indefinite as you measure time. Lizzies hoping to rule you in 4th density. Closer to 18 years. </p><p>Now from the start of these sessions of 94, 18 years is apparently 2012, and these &quot;ships&quot; that are supposed to be arriving on earth are riding via a &quot;wave&quot;. In which case im not sure if this is the same wave noted by the C&#039;s that will hit the Earth and transform it into a 4th density realm.&nbsp; </p><p>I believe depending on the individual if they learn all of their required &quot;lessons&quot; for this level of density, 3rd, the transference into 4th is apparently the next step.&nbsp; BUT depending on the individuals energetic frequency (knowledge and awareness raises this) this may determine the point in space/time they make their transition.&nbsp; Also, the individuals who are aware of this, and raise this frequency high enough to resonate with this oncoming wave are able to &quot;anchor&quot; a conduit in space/time that will allow them to transcend beings of their choice.</p><p>Now its hard to say if any of this stuff is how it is, or is how it is going to happen, but it is my understanding that 4th density is a reality shaped by your perception. So when this wave arrives and transforms the earth into a 4th density realm people may not be aware of this transcendence.&nbsp; Since perception will shape your existing reality, if people (which there most likely will be) aren&#039;t open, un-aware of the fact they made a transcendence they will continue to live in a linear perspective and be completely un-aware of anything that may have happened.</p><p>But for those who are aware, should be able to free them-selves from the existing reality and continue to exist in a reality of their choice hence &quot;spontaneous combustion&quot;</p><p>If you haven&#039;t seen it already the Cassiopaean site if very interesting <a href="http://www.cassiopaea.org">www.cassiopaea.org</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 18:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t think life obey such precise schedules, especially concerning humankind destiny (that&#039;s not a little thing).<br />We can&#039;t even tell when our meat is going to be cooked when we put it in on the fire, it depends on so many factors that even a super computer would be wrong about the time it would be ready (and tasty!)...Even see movements are unpredictable precisely.<br />So when it comes to the history of this part of the uiverse, pointing a year like that seems very unrealistic to me.<br />I think this is just another way to program us.<br />And if we are enough people to believe in it, something will really happen.<br />I guess waiting for a special year is not more valuable that waiting for a savior.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>LOL. I was browsing the Steve Pavlina forums and found this regarding the 2012 shift.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Erin Pavlina wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have heard all the speculation about a big transformation coming that year and something to do with the Mayan calendar. I&#039;ve also had &quot;the dreams&quot; that supposedly come with this coming event.</p><p>I don&#039;t know enough about the prediction to comment on whether I think something big is going to happen or not. But I do think we, as a people, are headed for a big transformational event related to consciousness. Just not sure when.</p><p>...</p><p>Mainly catastrophic disasters like meteors, lava, tidal waves, a total shift of the planet&#039;s alignment or something that causes the same type of reaction. Most people die, but some are taken aboard vessels and rescued.</p><p>But I&#039;ve also seen something else. A phasing into a different dimension. It&#039;s really hard to explain, but it was not pleasant. I want to say there was a reptilian race involved and they kept humans in this strange state of being phased between the 3rd and 4th dimensions and were feeding off our energy.</p><p>The vessels people boarded were of the &quot;light&quot; and the reptilian thing was definitely of the &quot;dark&quot; and it is unclear who will prevail.</p><p>I don&#039;t know if this is true or not but it would make a hell of a story.</p><p>...</p><p>Yes, the bottom line is to live the best you can, do the best you can. Preparing for the &quot;end&quot; seems pointless to me. I also don&#039;t believe in predicted dates. If it&#039;s going to happen, it will happen. I don&#039;t want to spend my days preparing for it unless I was absolutely certain it was going to happen. Then I might invest in some lava-proof galoshes.</p><p>...</p><p>Interesting about David Icke. Let me see if I want to open this can of worms.</p><p>I knew nothing of David Icke until one day when Steve and I were in a little bookstore next to Real Food Daily (a lovely vegan restaurant) waiting for it to open. We were browsing and this one book literally fell off the shelf and hit me. Heavy book! I think the title was Tales from the Time Loop.</p><p>I bought it. I read most of it, I think I only missed the last chapter, and possibly a couple chapters in the middle. Very political book. Most of the time I was reading the book I thought the guy was a nutter. But he had some very interesting experiences. I think, ultimately, he&#039;s misinterpreting some of the experiences he had and I think he doesn&#039;t quite have the gist of things.</p><p>However, the dream I had about the reptiles and the phasing thing happened long before I ever read David&#039;s book. So yeah, there was a point there where I was going, &quot;Shoot, if this guy is a nutter than maybe I am too.&quot; </p><p>I do tease Steve about being blond and blue eyed though. That&#039;s a lot of fun. </p><p>All I have to say about David Icke is that he&#039;s probably on to something but he&#039;s misinterpreting his experiences. Then again, he might be right. But there is no proof for his claims so for now the jury is still out on all of his theories. I&#039;d love to see proof for his claims though. That would shake things up. </p><p>...</p><p>Interesting that I had that dream without knowing other people were writing about it. That scares me more than it excites me though. I think I&#039;m going to look into this a little more. Luckily, in my reptile dream a few of us figured out how to bring ourselves back into the third dimension fully and break their hold on us (best part of the whole dream in my opinion). I wish I had written down more details. you never know if they will come in handy one day.</p></blockquote></div><p><a href="http://www.stevepavlina.com/forums/erin-pavlina/4697-2012.html">http://www.stevepavlina.com/forums/erin … -2012.html</a></p>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>^^^ wow.&nbsp; zenden, sir you nailed that indelibly.&nbsp; your passage will be saved and referred to in times of trial.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 06:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>mongoose--so well put and short yet covered the dilemma.&nbsp; my totally favorite subject.&nbsp; whats it gonna be?&nbsp; wake up on another plane that day? (2007 vs&nbsp; 2012-13) after 3 days of darkness, a magnetic pole shift, a faked out holographic rapture?&nbsp; a comet?&nbsp; a nibiruan impact vs landing?&nbsp; an alien invasion?,&nbsp; (they say theyre gonna &quot;help&quot;&nbsp; either way--cuz we will be &quot;ready&quot; then?), leave with a body this time they say, be 33 on the other side, or ya get to be ur fav archetype (and what ill do with THAT!!!), or the/a war occurs and the planet reaches annihilation zero point.&nbsp; most r killed, some ascend?, some survivors exist in pockets.&nbsp; (ive read mundane stuff such as to stay away from the windows nevertheless, for real, and a few other nebulous things that r so of ? account.&nbsp; get ur mind/soul &quot;right&quot; so u will be gone, keep working on urself, etc, align ur DNA, remain open to ?, cleanse ur chakras, recoup ur past, finish ur unfinished business (and thats a feat in itself).&nbsp; </p><p>some stay to maybe help design the &quot;new earth&quot; that may emerge and were really the true leadership destined to do so?&nbsp; &quot;the meek shall inherit the earth&quot;?--(theres alot on that as u know, and i thot i had that down a cpl of times, but dont know now other than it could be the difference between op&#039;s, ensouled adamaic vs pre-adamic again staying or leaving, and those that have &quot;corrected&quot; themselves by self-work and changed their own DNA/karma/script/vibes? i even thot at one time it was the sons of baal /belial/vs those of the law of one. and then i read the other day that that&#039;s an insert, and all contrived, and i thot there were clues in there but now? and i was really into that for awhile, clues, clues, clues... </p><p>so then (newer lately in my mind) its gonna shift DURING a war maybe--and some die in the war while others r shifting? and it all gets criss-crossed? man, and thats maybe planned, what a rigged evil deal.&nbsp; rotten to the core aint it?&nbsp; &nbsp;how so totally ROTTEN, stink to the core of cores, HATRED so deep. it is unfathomable.&nbsp; what an unreal way to live/feel.&nbsp; who and why and how could something hate that bad.&nbsp; the malevolence is stunning, and its over eons of time from the human eye. with their contrived war, it captures some souls and sticks em here or on a &quot;terra&quot; somewhere to repopulate, and so forth.&nbsp; that story of slavery and bondage, and ignorance, yet fire to fight it must end here then somehow,, those damn bad guys just keep playing this. as its an old 3d game thats so played out.&nbsp; i say BORING. they seem to like that story, and is that behind what theyre trying to do again, geez, dont they have any new storylines? and for that matter, dont I? gawd. i wanna leave just to get that over with and behind me. do they ever evolutionize?&nbsp; oh my god, the resistance is incredible.&nbsp; then ya got all the frickin prophesies (yawn) reaching culmination on purpose, is it good or bad? so the temple mount is re-built, sacrifice is back on.&nbsp; the antichrist is having a hayday, or before that survivors re-build the world in the midst of mad-max anarchy (and ive thot lots of ppl these have the look of those MAD MAX characters, so it would really be interesting, incl ME!!!==have u noticed a lot of ppl look sorta like that in dress/style?&nbsp; kinda neat, the influences. scripted? or drawn to it like in a story ur playing out to entertain urself with even.&nbsp; &nbsp;its sorta cool to watch that, even the thread with the kids wearing symbols, and looking goth and stuff, vs more streamlined yet hip these days).</p><p>will we/i leave or will we/i stay?&nbsp; its all in ruins and were/im stuck, and will i be of the clean-up crew again?&nbsp; in the role of an old crone with scraggly dreads, and torn rotting clothing, mixing potions, and delivering the babies of the survivors, telling stories to keep the &quot;past&quot; alive. complaining about what shoulda been done, how it coulda been changed, what we better do the next time.&nbsp; &nbsp;i thot i came in that way, and here it is again?&nbsp; nah--need another 5 act play outta here on this one, its the next BIG story. so then stock up? or not?&nbsp; ok then, the impetus to prepare and how mad one will be at oneself for not having enuf toilet paper or supplies, i used to do this all the time.&nbsp; hoard or dont hoard?&nbsp; hoarders will be reported they say.&nbsp; ive read all that is a scare tactic and &quot;u will have everything u need so quit worrying&quot; ---but what if?&nbsp; should be prepared.&nbsp; then&nbsp; u wonder am i in a safe place, should i have moved?&nbsp; will i be stuck leading around a bunch of pods, in a destroyed neighborhood where i gotta save everybody from their physical injuries?&nbsp; is that why i am medical this time?&nbsp; but i always was i think/remember.&nbsp; what to do as the time approaches. be forced into the &quot;mark&quot; by then, get put in a camp for running my big mouth, be a rebel burned at the stake again? or bypass that scenario all together.&nbsp; then i laugh as i hum or sing that Clash song &quot;should i stay or should i go?&quot; thank god for humor.&nbsp; its so cleansing and clean.</p><p>its a crack up by then, and im laughing and feel better as its probably those alternate realities, and we have so studied that and done our scholarly work to reach that conclusion, in agreement possibly with the formal writers of such.&nbsp; as we read above here, we may already have &quot;done&quot; it, or?, or as i suspect, an entirely NEW/concept may be flourishing if NOT, and is in the works, something so not planned, or gleaned out easily from all our research.&nbsp; its so new=its still in the works,&nbsp; oh my god.&nbsp; and with so much of everything being such a huge lie, cuz almost everything else has been, in this morassed illusion, maybe the next deal, is so un-knowable or such a huge different enterprise, that there really r few clues=its the biggest SURPRISE we&#039;ve ever seen, and all trails/roads do not lead to or from rome.&nbsp; hmmmm.&nbsp; its all been so WIZARD OF OZ.</p><p>as far as &quot;we changing our ways&quot;--and&nbsp; have been purposefully reading (again) lately, for clues/keys, on the subject of those ppl that kept being shown all those scenes of destruction by the greys, and have been given the &quot;warnings&quot;--and that its just one person who&#039;s supposed to change any of the pollution, the destruction of forests, on and on, when theyre in no position whatsoever to do shit, other than to tell everybody that the greys said destruction destruction &quot;unless u ppl change ur ways&quot;.&nbsp; so its back to having guilt then, on using trees for toilet paper.&nbsp; ur damned if u do or damned if u dont, all the guilt that the worlds on her last legs. like these ppl or any of us, r the CEO&#039;s of major companies who can then turn the tide for the ways to be changed on a grand scale.&nbsp; </p><p>i dont know what to say on that other than LOVE (sounds so corny and ridiculous) being the answer and to have it so deep and so profoundly for one&#039;s fellow man, for every half breed, for every species of &#039;em, for every single OP, for even the rotten MIB, for every dim-witted pod, for every idiotic creation of/by the reps. even chucacabras, chimaras/centaurs, spooks; even greys-- to hold no racist/species/nationalistic/souled vs unsouled bias/and fear of anymore.&nbsp; end all OLD OLD ancient distaste for all.&nbsp; be so damn big and huge with that, theres no turning back.&nbsp; its so NEW and clean, to be taken in and given out that, despite all the crap we see and go thru everyday, and remember and harbor resentments for over centuries, that now were back to the one person /each person deal wherein just one soul, yet collectively then, all souls or whatever change course and save or lift or whatever in this sector of the universe.&nbsp; He aint heavy--he&#039;s my brother kinda stuff.&nbsp; oh my god.&nbsp; talk about circles. or is just that my personal mythological full of archetype frickin STORY?&nbsp; yet, i say IT ALL HAD TO START SOMEWHERE IN EACH OF US.&nbsp; how it began, and thats pretty rotten , from what weve read.&nbsp; slaves made from parts of clay and alien DNA. kept in bondage and chains, and they finally quit the game, get the hell OUTTA DODGE as lyra says, and from all those other existences we FIX this shit.&nbsp; we COME from somewhere to play this out, in a ROLE, u have to admit it.&nbsp; we LOOK certain ways, feel certain ways, and all have images of ourselves that we walk around in this time here.&nbsp; its old old stuff yet developing, and yet being influenced by the future and the past simultaneously so this time, its done on a planetary scale, on a cosmic level so cool, even the EVILl ones are lifted from far far down below.&nbsp; we even FREE our captors.&nbsp; bless their hearts. we even grow em a heart, they never had one before.&nbsp; its that pure, that goddam strong. </p><p>all thats left then is kiling time, come seh, come sah.&nbsp; which we do here rather nicely, hanging out with each other, and trading/sharing our concepts.&nbsp; we may be the very magicians that r supposed to do that, from within our minds, (screw the predators that &quot;gave them to us&quot;--screw em i say!) that will pave the way.&nbsp; i feel its in there, in that last part.&nbsp; we r the key.&nbsp; &nbsp;and everything we think, feel, share, as we network, is gathering, all with excellent, clean, fabulous, gorgeous INTENT, while we spin and spin in this vortex of everyday life, we r consciously creating something somewhere that&#039;s never been &quot;&quot;done&quot; like this before.&nbsp; thats all we got, that beautiful intent.&nbsp; the rest is just a story, but it took that to get here....love u all!!! happy halloween my friends</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 19:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well, according to Linda Grabhorn, the author of &quot;My God? What is happening?&quot; and &quot;Planet II&quot;,&nbsp; it will appear as if a large number of people have died. But in truth, they will merely have &quot;ascended&quot; to a higher dimensional Earth, essentially a paradise where humanity can truly flourish. Those &quot;left behind&quot; will live in an utter shithole, responsible for picking up the pieces again, until such a state of anarchy and violence envelopes the 3D Earth that she perceives the Earth &quot;blowing up&quot;.<br /> My take on it is this: She is perceiving alternate time periods. One, where we nearly destroy ourselves, each other and the environment, and the other where the Earth has regenerated, and people take it upon themselves to fashion a paradise out of the ruin.&nbsp; Though it is not necessary that we are brought to the brink of ruin to change our ways, I nonetheless suspect that&#039;s what&#039;s necessary in order to bring about this idyllic world. <br /> This has been a sneaking suspicion of mine, and it was somewhat verified in Courtney Browns book, &quot;Cosmic Explorers&quot; <a href="http://www.courtneybrown.com/publications/CosmicExplorersByCourtneyBrown.pdf">http://www.courtneybrown.com/publicatio … yBrown.pdf</a><br />. Start at page 219, and read the small segment. <br /> But in the end, who really knows?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>lyra--im a total retard on here and im in over my head with my posting probs.&nbsp; i have to learn to do things right.&nbsp; im a terrible quandry with it. im losin it!!!&nbsp; so thank u much for ur advice, which i need to adhere to myself.&nbsp; yes that wouldve made things clearer. and i meant to tell montalk the other day too, how that new qucik post box is better, but cant use it right yet. and that it is appreciated, its a nice new improved one.&nbsp; thank u.&nbsp; i must use the quote thing more accurately too.&nbsp; i think i need soem MEDS of some sort.&nbsp; when all else fails--use chemicals?&nbsp; no, better to sleep maybe.&nbsp; thank u.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 02:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>zenden wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>i looked and looked and couldnt find that direct quote? up there?&nbsp; is that up there or inferred?</p><p>believe me i would never say were all in the same reality, and realize it.&nbsp; most of all that up there is from LKJ and the C&#039;s as she was memoing/emailing vicent bridges.&nbsp; it was just some of her work and quotes from the C&#039;s compiled by me.&nbsp; and the thesis of her book, which id never seen the end of before, that SHE says that thru her work, she THINKS (not me but it is an illuatration here of what might be happening as a mere possibility--altho beats me, i couldnt prove a thing and wouldnt strive to even do so, i dont even care about proving stuff.&nbsp; some stuff cant be proved and measurements to do so r impossibly impossible, and would need to be as etheral).&nbsp; is that theyll have a war while some people are shifting or some cosmic event will occur SIMULTANEOUSLY. </p><p>so, it will look SHE SAYS, like its one event in the eyes/perception of some. when its really 2 distinct events, with the possibility of one being covered up?&nbsp; or shaded by the other, depending i guess, which side of the fence one&#039;s on at the time.&nbsp; if anybody&#039;s even here then.&nbsp; phew.</p><p>no, id never say wwere all in the same reality, and frankly,&nbsp; i was just throwing stuff around up there, and trying to make connections.&nbsp; &nbsp;well, overall, good to know, that its &quot;thicker&quot;...which id venture to say is &quot;help&quot; from within and out, maybe.&nbsp; either way im ALL FOR IT.</p></blockquote></div><p>zenden.....Ganel never said that you said this quote.&nbsp; </p><p>If you do a search - Control F - on the phrase &quot;same reality&quot; and then keep hitting the &quot;Enter&quot; button, it will highlight one by one all instances in this thread where that appears.&nbsp; And that&#039;s where you&#039;ll find that Trancix said it in his opening post.&nbsp; It&#039;s Trancix&#039;s quote.&nbsp; Not yours.</p><p>It helps too if people show the name of who they&#039;re quoting, instead of just quoting something without a reference.&nbsp; &nbsp; This is achieved with the <strong>&quot;Quote&quot;</strong> button.&nbsp; it will automatically show Quote= followed by the poster&#039;s name of who you&#039;re quoting.&nbsp; &nbsp;By leaving out the person&#039;s name it leads to confusion such as this.</p><p>Anyway.</p>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>i looked and looked and couldnt find that direct quote? up there?&nbsp; is that up there or inferred?</p><p>believe me i would never say were all in the same reality, and realize it.&nbsp; most of all that up there is from LKJ and the C&#039;s as she was memoing/emailing vicent bridges.&nbsp; it was just some of her work and quotes from the C&#039;s compiled by me.&nbsp; and the thesis of her book, which id never seen the end of before, that SHE says that thru her work, she THINKS (not me but it is an illuatration here of what might be happening as a mere possibility--altho beats me, i couldnt prove a thing and wouldnt strive to even do so, i dont even care about proving stuff.&nbsp; some stuff cant be proved and measurements to do so r impossibly impossible, and would need to be as etheral).&nbsp; is that theyll have a war while some people are shifting or some cosmic event will occur SIMULTANEOUSLY. </p><p>so, it will look SHE SAYS, like its one event in the eyes/perception of some. when its really 2 distinct events, with the possibility of one being covered up?&nbsp; or shaded by the other, depending i guess, which side of the fence one&#039;s on at the time.&nbsp; if anybody&#039;s even here then.&nbsp; phew.</p><p>no, id never say wwere all in the same reality, and frankly,&nbsp; i was just throwing stuff around up there, and trying to make connections.&nbsp; &nbsp;well, overall, good to know, that its &quot;thicker&quot;...which id venture to say is &quot;help&quot; from within and out, maybe.&nbsp; either way im ALL FOR IT.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 01:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>but we are all in the same reality..</p></blockquote></div><p>Prove it.</p><p>I cannot, but i dissagree. I have seen too much to assume we know what a reality is. 2012 came and went unless time stopped, but by 2008 some would have already stored enough light and crossed dimensions already, with their bodies. I am sure some are doing it today.&nbsp; If you can see the invisible rain of light that pours constantly, then you will know it is becoming thicker. I would more asscociate 2012 with the earth more than people.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 00:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>check this out--its a possibility, crosses many threads,...and cheaper than buying the book, apparently this is the crux behind LKJ&#039;s end of the world scenario (i dont mean to tout it/her), but i keep constantly running into this today, a ton of C stuff continues to pop up. its so damn synchronistic and lot of stuff on here at NR has been lately--so look at this </p><p>Q: (L) Also, there was a supernova that became the Crab<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;Nebula, which occurred 5,000 years ago, yet was not seen<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;on earth, which was 900 years ago, which happens to be<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;exactly the time period I have been looking at as having<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;been a turning point where seeds were planted that are now<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;bearing fruit.&nbsp; Can you tell us if this supernova that was&nbsp; (SEEDS?&nbsp; what seeds?)&nbsp; <br />&nbsp; &nbsp;seen 900 years ago, were there effects from the Supernova<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;that contributed to this state of affairs at the<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;culmination of the Dark Ages, the creation of the Templars (and everybody STOLE their stuff, =the GOOD guys)<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;and so forth.&nbsp; What were the effects of this supernova<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;that was seen 900 years ago?</p><p>A: Excitation of base liquid molecules.&nbsp; (For eventual DNA crystallization?)<br />Q: (L) Did this have a physiological effect, or genetic, DNA effect on people?&nbsp; (Will it do it again, soon?)<br />A: Slight.<br />Q: (L) What were the pronounced effects that one would have<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;been able to note.&nbsp; That is microscopic...&nbsp; (SO its in the genes, in the cells, cells have memory, genetic karma)<br />A: Growth.&nbsp; (Redemption, maybe by reincarnation even)<br />Q: (L) Growth in what sense?&nbsp; Growth and change in the size<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;of people?<br />A: Close.<br />Q: (L) Growth in a psychological or mental sense?<br />A: Close.<br />Q: (L) What kind of growth specifically?&nbsp; (Overpopulation, pods, unsoulled beings, fakes, a big mess)<br />A: Both.<br />Q: (L) You mentioned the importance of the Horsehead Nebula<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;in relation to the symbol of the Knight.&nbsp; What is the<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;significance of the Horsehead Nebula?<br />A: Keep up your search, as you are near.<br />Q: (L) What would be the effect of cosmic rays emitted by a&nbsp; (Veilakovsky)<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;supernova that is in some proximity to the earth on the<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;human body?&nbsp; (So if it happens every 13,000+ yrs then here we go, again=the new human, 2012, the ascension)<br />A: Genetic splice of strand.&nbsp; (CHANGING DNA, again?, also the tampering with our original, etc)<br />Q: (A) Now this supernova that is supposed to explode soon,<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;will it be soon in the sense of our SEEING it, that is the arrival of the light from this, or soon in the instantaneous sense?<br />A: Optically.<br />Q: (L) So, this supernova must have already occurred?&nbsp; (Repeated cycles of destruction, which r necessary)<br />A: Yes.<br />Q: (A) But, if it already occurred, then this means that the<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;instantaneous effects have already been felt, even if it<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;was lesser than the optical effects.&nbsp; It must have been<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;recorded by anomalous changes in genes? (L Is that true?<br />A: Close.<br />Q: (L) So what, in the records, should we be looking for?&nbsp; (Depends on which &quot;records&quot;, u&#039;d have to read so many and we HAVE) n now this is out of sequence but...<br />A: Sign of struggle out of sequence with pre-ordained<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;activities of Royal Blood Lines. (Blue Blood vs?, the set-up, the bankers, the control of the world)<br />Q: (L) In other words, the usurpation of the blood lines?&nbsp; (pre-adamic man vs? OP&#039;s, i swear its IN THERE ---who sseeded who and why?&nbsp; THIS IS the biggest key to it &quot;all&quot; IMO, it SOURCES from this &amp; its gonna go back to this, I can FEEL IT, cloning, hybrids, religions and men, )<br />A: Close. You have, on occasion, related this to DNA changes.&nbsp; Is it that certain individuals are connected to other densities through the&nbsp; (Star children, feeling difft than everybody else=spiritual immunity to lies and deception, warriors on a mission, shamans, healers, dreamers, wanderers, treehuggers, druids, illustrators, writers, patriots, magical mongooses, lonos, heretics, mystics, i leave none of us out!!! here)<br />windows of the stars in certain constellations, and the<br />clues are found in the location of the stars in the<br />figures of the constellations relating to the areas of the<br />body where pockets in the etheric field are points of<br />activation of DNA, and that these relate to certain pains<br />and discomforts?&nbsp; &nbsp;(Remembering stuff--&quot;its in the genes&quot;, illnesses, disorders=from old issues, memories, lives)</p><p>Q: Are the body pains in these areas related?<br />A: To...?<br />Q: Obviously this is a big one... it relates directly to the<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;crossed shin bones, the skull, the shoulderblades, knees,<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;elbows and a lot of other symbology... the exposed breast<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;of the Masonic initiate.&nbsp; &nbsp;(The KT, and those darn masons again, famous grandfather was a mason)</p><p>The original &quot;Zaphon&quot; is another bizzare root word, ZPN, which adds up to<br />137, the number of the word received, or kabalah, in Hebrew. The orginal&nbsp; (Not gonna get away from the Jews)<br />meaning was the place, or state of mind where the knowledge of the universe<br />could be found. Its coruption into Zion represents the control trip of the<br />priesthood. Finally its use by the Priory of Sion, which can be spelled SN,<br />equals 110, or the end of days in Hebrew, signals their understanding of<br />the esoteric significance.&nbsp; He who controls the Matrix of reality, controls reality. The hidden city is<br />really Zaphon, where we realize who we are in the universe.&nbsp; (I always say its the evil priests=from the beginning of time=The Nine, even tho they were Lamas, reincarnated atlantean priests, then egyptian priests, and now--u now, and if that isnt clear than i dont know what is!=Rome, vatican, white house, monarchies, ETC)</p><p>A: Lord of Serpent promises its followers infinite power&nbsp; (Lucifer, the Director of Marketing)<br />&nbsp; which they must seek infinite knowledge to gain, for which<br />&nbsp; they pledge allegiance infinitely for, which they possess<br />&nbsp; for all eternity, so long as they find infinite wisdom,<br />&nbsp; for which they search for all infinity.&nbsp; (As well as the craving for power and security which they cant get enuf of, druids and bhang&#039;s last posts)</p><p>Q: (L) Well, that is a round robin... a circle you can&#039;t get<br /> out of!&nbsp; (SEEEEE!!!???, theocracy, the War in Heaven book, reincarnating traps souls, possibly de-evolutinizes,? evil traps, karma skews, chakras remember and get stuck,&nbsp; dont go to the light? go to the light?)</p><p>A: And therein you have the deception!&nbsp; Remember, those who<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;seek to serve self with supreme power, are doomed only to<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;serve others who seek to serve self, and can only see that<br />&nbsp; &nbsp;which they want to see.&nbsp; (STO vs STS, stunted spiritual growth, pods CAN only see what they wanna see)</p><p>Abraham received this insight from the Elion, the God Most High, or the&nbsp; (Abraham= A BRAHMIN, my plumber mentor taught me that, Yahweh, Jehovah. aliens, tricks by the overlords)</p><p>ion/aeon of the El. The place where he made this covenant was named Zion to&nbsp; (ION? molecule, EL=the sun, lord, king)</p><p>indicate the galactic nature of the alignment. The intersection of Elion,<br />the Draco/Lesser Mag. Cloud axis, and the galactic central axis creates&nbsp; (Reptilians=big stakeholders in all this)<br />&quot;time.&quot; Within this framework, the function of &#039;time&quot; is played out<br />according to the IHVH pattern. This is simply the elemental alignment of (JC is in here=INRI)<br />fixed signs in the pattern Fire/Leo, Earth/Taurus, Air/Aquarius and<br />Water/Scorpio. This pattern fell on the spring equinox roughly 13,000 years (The Mayan Calendar?) </p><p>ago, and is now aligning itself with the fall equinox to repeat the&nbsp; (Astronomy and the placement of the constellations, Astrology, Signs, and Archetypes, gods and goddesses, and god heads)<br />pattern.&nbsp; As an historian, I can think of a dozen time periods that seem to have<br />inexplicable continuity glitches.&nbsp; (Lyra&#039;s time glitches, reality matrix shifts, high weirdness)<br />The worst, in my opinion, is the French Revolution, which seemed to have an extraordinarily large number of<br />time-spooks pulling strings in the background. The key to all of this seems <br />to be the time we are in at the moment, as Nostradamus implied, and the<br />results of this kind of manipulation are approaching critical. What we were (Terrance M, gregg braden &amp; ZERO POINT)<br />trying to say in our book, without coming out and saying it, is that the</p><p>end of the world is a manipulated psycho-drama designed to detract from the&nbsp; (THIS IS IT!)<br />spiritual significance of the cosmic moment. I haven&#039;t ruled out the<br />possibility that time travel and reality manipulation are involved. I just<br />don&#039;t know who&#039;s manipulating whom.&nbsp; (I dont think that matters now, after all this, who even cares anymore?)</p><p>Which brings us to the question of synchronicity. We were very careful not&nbsp; (HOW SYNCHRONOUS!, im freaked!)<br />to give more meaning to any synchronous event than it deserved.&nbsp; &nbsp;(Well, im gonna anyway)<br />Synchronicity seems, in general, to be a field effect of sentience.&nbsp; (Well, thats good to know, advanced SOULS see connections repeatedly, its the CONSISTENCY of all these cross refernced areas from UNRELATED sources)</p><p>Whatever carries the deepest significance will be manifest in your field of<br />awareness.&nbsp; &nbsp;(Yes, we said that, we were only dreaming it? yet we FOCUS on this stuff &amp; seek each other out to do so, CYOR, co-creating, were all secretly gods, in their image, who is THEY?)</p><p>well, that EXPLAINS everything then...the whole enchilada, my hypothesis by cut and paste.&nbsp; the world acc to zenden and i finally got this off my chest.&nbsp; and it all started because i saw those damn little greys at the foot of my bed when i was 8, or so.&nbsp; i searched and searched and i found montalk, and u guys, and im done now.</p>]]></description>
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