But then, you ask yourself: How do I know that? 
April 4, 2007
The US is planning to attack Iran's nuclear reactors and other nuclear facilities by the end of this month, the Kuwait-based Arab Times newspaper reported Wednesday.
Citing anonymous sources in Washington, it said that various White House departments had started preparing the political speech to be delivered by the US president later this month, announcing the military attack on Iran.
The speech will provide the 'evidence' and the 'justification' for the US to resort to the military option after failing to persuade Tehran to give up its nuclear ambitions, said the report.
According to the Times, one of the justifications expected in the speech is Iran's alleged role in the killing of American soldiers in Iraq by supporting various militias with money and arms.
Today, April 11th, CNN puts out this headline: Iraqi insurgents being trained in Iran, U.S. says. So the pretexts for war are still being strewn into the public consciousness (an oxymoron, I know).
End of this month?
Well, Germany invaded Poland on September 1st, 1939.
On September 1, 1939, Germany invaded Poland, using the false pretext of a faked "Polish attack" on a German border post. The United Kingdom and France gave Germany two days to withdraw from Poland. Once the deadline passed on September 3, the United Kingdom, Australia, and New Zealand declared war on Germany, followed quickly by France, South Africa, Canada and Nepal. Immediately, Great Britain began seizing German ships and implementing a blockade.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II
Which, as has been pointed out earlier on this thread, corresponds to May 3, 2007. Guess we'll see...
http://montalk.net/older_from_newer.htm - find older date given a recent/future one
http://montalk.net/newer_from_older.htm - find recent date given an older one
There's a WWII timeline here:
http://www.islandnet.com/~kpolsson/ww2hist/ww21936.htm
Morning buying turned into a precious metals free for all, with silver rising 4% to a two-month high over $13 an ounce, after China central bank governor Zhou Xiaochuan said without getting specific that China was considering many instruments to diversify its $1 trillion foreign exchange reserves.
"It certainly means pressure on the dollar against all other currencies," said a dealer at a refining company. "Mainly, it's going to be the yen and euro, and there might also be some gold involved."
Also:
Dollar Drops This Week as China Says It Will Diversify Reserves
]]>Plus I anticipate a whole spiritual element on the upswing - because taking away familiar routine and comforts will open people up.
I most definitely agree. The spiritual element will come into full play on the upswing. I happen to be of the mind that the upswing doesn't begin until 2009, and won't reach its inflection point until 2012.
I want to be clear that I'm not dooming and glooming, but I do think that it will have to come to a breaking-point until the awakening begins in earnest. It has to be crystal clear to certain people that if they don't change their way of life- like right now- there won't be a way of life for any of us. . . at least not on this planet.
I also think that it will take a different group of people to realize that floating around in a happy-bubble, ignoring the evils of the world in hopes that they will just go away doesn't work. It isn't the solution. It can't be or it would have worked already. Being "only positive" just makes things more negative for everybody else. Looking at the negative doesn't have to be a downer, it can be very inspiring as well. It's all about perspective.
What my little experiment made clear to me is that certain things are set in motion that have yet to play out.
I am not familiar with the "Calleman Model" which you referred to earlier in the thread, but it sounds liike he has come to the same conclusion. Well, as you said, we shall see. I'm finding myself curious to know more about what was going on 'behind the scenes' in contrast to the World Stage.
Anyhow, I think Parts 2 and 3 will carry more happy news, but for now I guess I'll just wait and see if Part 1 turns out to be predictive or not.
]]>Yes, we could get martial law for a period of time.
Meanwhile, back in the U.S., the vast majority of people are still reeling from the shock as they begin to face the fact that their “It will never happen here" belief couldn't change reality after all.
Well put. I see the shock opening doors, many, many doors that have been closed in people's minds.
It well be painfully obvious that things are not as people thought they were. A whole new group of people will become open to questioning things like they never have before.
Now, this group may be relatively small in percentage terms (1%?, 5%?, 10%)?, but they may be enough to start a sea swell of opinion change.
I see it likely that there will also be many people who continue to buy whatever story the mainstream media offers, but let's not worry about them for right now.
So along with a new openness comes many more stories about things that had previously been hidden - lots of stories about corruption and abuses of power and some of these stories may come from mainstream news sources.
Plus I anticipate a whole spiritual element on the upswing - because taking away familiar routine and comforts will open people up.
So, we shall see, we shall see.
]]>News began to pop out that various countries in South America were abandoning the British pound in favor of the U.S. dollar, a move which made a lot of sense to political leaders. Europe had little to offer South American countries, viewing them as something to be colonized and fought over, rather than as autonomous states in a global economy. Adoption of the dollar offered them capitalism, and while it would do little to help the working class of those countries. those in power recognized an opportunity to become wealthier than they had ever dreamed.
This was the beginning of the replacement of the British pound with the U.S. dollar as the global reserve currency which is the primary reason the United States received so much support during the war, and became the global superpower that it is today.
Now let's review the last few weeks. . .
October of '06 opens with record highs in the stock market, but uneasiness takes over as downright morbid news begins to surface concerning the housing and auto markets. Talk of the weakening dollar spreads. Once again, illegal immigration is again a hot topic, but this time, instead of Americans focusing on the eastern border, we are focused on the southern one. Now we have entered a pause as everybody awaits the outcome of the November elections.
Here's my prediction: Something unexpected will happen.
Everything that follows is pure literary conjecture.
Part I - Global Economic Crisis
The news will come out of China. It may be predicated on concerns over newly nuclear North Korea, or perhaps a claim of U.S. impotence due to a political gridlock following the elections, but it will be a bold economic move that demonstrates to the world that China is truly a force to be reckoned with. I will take a wild guess and say that China will announce a new alliance with Japan and voice its intention to back the Yen as a major contender for the next global reserve currency with the massive amounts of gold it has been quietly accumulating while simultaneously dumping American dollars in South America in the form of foreign aid.
The U.S. stock market begins to go haywire, and the government, along with the plunge protection team, pulls out all the stops in a heroic effort to artificially stabilize failing stocks. After a short period of recovery, all hell will break loose when the bond market suddenly crashes due to exponentially increasing defaults on home, auto, and student loans. The stock market will soon follow and the United States will be hurled into a Grand Depression that makes the early 30's (and end of 2006) seem a golden era of peace and prosperity by comparison.
Again, European nations will scramble as the the EU's close ties with the U.S. dollar act destabilize the European economy. Europeans will begin to look more earnestly to the Iranian Oil Bourse to help stabilize the Euro. The plan will work for a while, but continued political instability in the Middle East and the Caucasus will continue to plague the struggling Euro. Enter Russia, who rushes to the rescue with the announcement of oil reserves discovered in Siberia so massive as to easily meet the needs of the EU while simultaneously expunging the need for dependence on Middle Eastern oil. Russia will offer to abandon the rubel as its own currency in exchange for euros should the EU agree to buy its oil exclusively from Russia through its own oil bourse. The proposition will be met with heavy skepticism and debate among EU members.
While the Europeans hem and haw, the increasing consolidation of money and power in eastern Asia will break into a frenzy as some countries in South America (ex. Bolivia, Venezuela, and maybe Brazil) wholeheartedly abandon the dollar in favor of the yen as their preferred foreign currency exchange. Simultaneously, civil unrest will reach unparalleled highs in the Middle East as news of losing their previously unchallenged hold on the oil market emboldens various military factions to open defiance of their “elected" governments. The unrest will reach such grand proportions that it will encroach heavily on nations of the Caucasus, threatening western Russia and eastern Europe.
Suddenly, Iran will not look so good to the EU, and the government will make an offer of acceptance to Russia's plan. But by now, Russia has new plans. In a sudden turn toward hostility, but in classic form, Russia will renege on its offer, claiming that its oil reserves might be better put toward national defense, especially on the rapidly destabilizing western border, leaving the EU to suffer the consequences of its indecision.
Meanwhile, back in the U.S., the vast majority of people are still reeling from the shock as they begin to face the fact that their “It will never happen here" belief couldn't change reality after all. Of course, this will hit boomers the hardest, as they watch their pensions and retirement funds evaporate almost overnight. Also hit hard will be the younger generation, as they will be suddenly forced to pull their ears out of their I-pods and join the rest of humanity in the emerging global crisis. Life in the big cities will turn outright deadly, and though many will desire to move to more rural areas, they will be paralyzed by their inability to find work, and the fact that nobody is willing to buy their oversized houses. . . at least not for a price anywhere near what they paid. The final shock will occur as, for the first time in U.S. history, presidential elections are suspended indefinitely under a declaration of martial law.
Shortly following the militarization of U.S. domestic affairs, another bombshell will fall as the world witnesses the re-emergence of the Soviet Union. Perhaps under a different name, but with all the same players who had been quietly waiting in the shadows for just this sort of opportunity. Nations in the Caucasus will be retaken by the newly declared republic, not by military force, but by economic. The Soviets will make an another offer for European nations, this time to join the union. Astonishment will rattle the E.U. as Germany and Poland quickly accept the offer, but all eyes will be focused on Afghanistan, and its massive oil pipeline.
Now, it's India's turn to move as it announces a new willingness to use its nuclear capability. Feeling encroached upon by all sides, India will again make strange bedfellows, now with Iran and North Korea, forming a loose coalition of nations threating to pull the plug on the entire planet, if things don't simmer down, and soon.
Next comes a pause, as the world takes its first collective breath.
But then, you ask yourself: How do I know that?
First off, I stopped the search pretty much at where you see it because the sheer number of matches I was getting. While some of them might be a stretch, others, such as the ones that pulsar mentioned literally made my jaw drop. I also particularly like the one about the turbine engine, since I think it may have some value as a tool to predict the development of technology.
The work was very tedious, and I think I got out of it what I wanted to. I suppose a more rigorous study could be taken by anybody else wishing to validate it for themselves. Montalk's calculator will greatly speed up the process. Thanks, Montalk, for that. I found the NY Times online archive to be incredibly thorough, though there are surely other avenues and faster techniques I haven't considered.
I should also point out that, to be scientific, a "control" study should be done picking a random date and fractal periodicity in order to establish statistical significance. Anybody got a free 20 hours? 
Though I've read many articles and books on this subject, this was the first thing that I have taken as positive external proof that we are approaching a singularity in time that is represented by the date 12:21:12. As for internal confirmation, I've had it for a while, but I'm not sure I could describe it in a comprehensible way to anybody else. I believe that place is different for each of us.
Of course, the more pressing question is: So now what?
The answer is: I don't know.
I don't know if pursuing something like this as a means to predict the future is desireable, or even possible.
I don't know if it really matters.
I don't know how the concepts of free will and determinism fit into all of this.
. . . and I don't know what I don't know.
Meaning there are probably much more profound implications to this kind of thing than fortune-telling, or winning a sports-pool, for example. (Although I will admit I'm sorry I had only half a mind to bet on the Cards winning 4-2 
)
What I can offer is an basic overview of the Winter of 31, and make some wild predictions based upon my own extremely limited understanding of the events that followed.
I will try to have that up by tomorrow.
In the meantime, I'm going to get some sleep.
]]>I was also just thinking about how the coming events of 2007 may be a reflection of the 40's. . which got me onto a little thought experiment on fractal time.
I assumed 12/21/12 is the singularity point and 13 years is the fractal equivalent of one year in time, which are obviously both arguable assumptions, but I found one interesting result so far.
2006 (actually 21 Dec 2005 - 21 Dec 2006) correlates to the period of 1922-1934.
I find this area of inquiry very interesting. In the book "The Invisible Landscape" (1975), Terence McKenna proposed something similar with regard to the fractal nature of time. Also, Carl Calleman, in his book, "The Mayan Calendar and the Transformation of Consciousness" (2004) elaborated a similar model.
Daniel Pinchbeck, in his book "2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl" (2006) summarized the Calleman model and Pinchbeck has been referring to it in his public speaking.
So these ideas are available for people who are interested in them.
According to the Calleman model, which is based on his interpretation of the Mayan calendar, there are alternating periods of "day" and "night." In this model, the “Fifth Night" is approaching and corresponds to the period Nov. 19, 2007 to Nov. 13, 2008, which corresponds to the previous period 1932-1952 (Great Depression, World War II), which corresponds to the previous period of approximately 400A.D. to 800A.D. when there was a “temporary return to a tribelike world of nomadic Huns and marauding Germanic tribes."
He has the specifics in his book and also some free stuff on his website: http://www.calleman.com/
Now his specific timeline may be off, but the theory is that in the next year or two, we are going to see some major events unfold which echo the World II/Nazi era. Of course, one could claim that we are already seeing this now. I feel that we may be entering a period of intensification of totalitarian tendencies, but these will not last. These models suggest a hopeful outlook in that the worst of it may only last a year or so (and maybe even less).
Whatever the specifics, the models suggest an acceleration of change. For several years, I have been thinking that if we are going to see the type of change that some people say will happen by the general 2012 period, a major global consciousness shift, then it is likely that in the current period, we will increasingly live through major changes. The type of changes where it will be clear to almost everyone that we are living through momentous times and the “business and life as usual" period is over. I don’t think we are quite there yet.
]]>Sept 1 1939
The beginning of WW2.
New Date:
May 3 2007
I guess we'll have to wait and see. Good test for your hypothesis.
]]>Because time of day is not figured into this, calculating the older date leaves a large window of approximation. A one day wiggle room for a newer date equals thirteen days for the older date. So it's better to input the older date to calculate the new, otherwise just remember that the older date is approximate within 13 days.
Links:
enter the date like this: 10 23 2006 or 4 18 1933
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In this thread tenetnosce was talking about two dates that reflect each other, a newer date closer to 2012 and older date farther in the past. The time difference between the newer date and 2012 makes up one of the smaller half-circles in the diagram. If you go back from 2012 thirteen times that difference, you arrive at the older date it reflects.
I'm writing a small Python program to do this automatically, finding the newer date given the older, or older date given the newer. Will try embedding it in a web-page so that anyone here can just punch in a date and find the other.
If this theory is valid, then it suggests that the closer we get to 2012, the closer these two dates (newer and older) become until on winter solstice 2012 they merge.
]]>Pretty crazy really, but it kind of makes sense too..
So the war is probably coming sometime next year then, judging from your first post here... - or - "anti-war=rebellion against tptb(?)"
OMG are proper words here... and I can't help but wonder if Schwarzenegger somehow comes into the
picture, seeing as he's german and all that.. I really feel he's going for something/being groomed for something,
before he's out of the picture...
Looking good, looking good </irony>
]]>i just want to chime in here and say that i don't understand the math on this thread completely, but LOOK AT THOSE DATES!!
i mean, how weird is it for all these similar-connected things to happen on mathematically correlated dates??!!
the uruguay exchange one, the hypnotist on TV one? not to mention the cards.....geez....more thoughts on this now that you have the headlines, tenetnosce??
peace all
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