I wonder if the production of this video, whether based in actual events or not, is more a not-so-subtle tool with which to reinforce fear among those who may have come into some knowledge about negatively-oriented members of the reptilian race operating in places of authority? There are perhaps those who may have ideas or are actively engaged in plans or discussions to reveal such truths to a wider public, as they might understand them, and so this tape was created and is routinely discussed in certain circles to suppress any ideas some might have about coming forward with their knowledge, experiences, or talking about reptilians and secret societies in general. After the actual facts of the production of the video are "debunked" (such a funny word), the question still lingers in the minds of those who know reptilians exist and have seen them, Oh my goodness! Could this really happen? Will they cut off my fingers? 

It's another form of trauma-based mind control.

Fritz Springmeier seems to me a better example of how reptilians might work against humans who endeavor to expose possible governmental conspiracies and offer assistance to people who have long suffered from ritual abuse with regard to negatively-oriented reptilians: ridicule and entrapment for more public figures, and threats of violence and gang-stalking techniques for those outside the public arena. Once a whistle-blower or potential threat like Mr. Springmeier is apprehended for some infraction of the law, or they get drunk in a bar and through carelessness become involved in a fatal accident of some sort, all of their financial resources can then be drained through legal fees and such until they're incarcerated for an extended length of time or left impoverished. No one's going to want to listen to some ex-con Jesus freak or transient talk about lizard people and government conspiracies. Focus will more than likely have shifted to meeting basic needs than exposing hidden truths, anyway.

Every time I read about what happened to Mr. Springmeier I can't help but wonder, What was he thinking?  Shouldn't he have known that they'd be laying in wait for him? Armed robbery and exposing the Illuminati? That's just weird. He should have picked one or the other. Well, now just about anything can be said about him, and is, because he's locked up.

Earlier this year I watched a video program on YouTube about David Icke called "Was He Right?" or something like that, where he was invited to appear as a guest on a popular talk show and nearly laughed off the stage the moment he started talking about shape-shifters. I felt badly for him but couldn't help but think about that, Here's another dodo. His enthusiasm for the material was understandable but he certainly didn't seem to take into account that the reptilians whose existence he was attempting to reveal were planning just such an opportunity as his televised appearance to laugh at him and sow the seeds for lasting alienation and marginalization. Clearly, David Icke has become somewhat savvy over the years, successfully navigating the many methods there are to negate his efforts. 

I'd become aware of reptilians long before I'd heard of David Icke or conspiracy theories. It's not only entirely possible that some can change their shape, it's true. Some can change their shape and some can not. For members of the reptilian race who can alter their appearance, the transformation only takes a matter of seconds. A long-standing question for me was, What do they do with their mass when shifting from a four foot tall old woman, for instance, into a six foot tall man? It's been suggested to me that this is accomplished through some property of quantum physics. I used to laugh to myself with the thought, Maybe they put it in a pocket universe or something. I don't understand quantum physics.

I've known lots of reptilians over the years, but I've yet to encounter one construed to look anything like this:

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Well, maybe in a dream, and it was clear to me that he was attempting to make himself appear especially scary. I've witnessed a reptilian change shape on this plane only once, and then just partially. The actual bone structure of the jaw extends beneath muscle and skin, and reforms. I wonder if it's at all painful? It's quite alarming.

It's my opinion that reptilians are a part of every race, religion, and every culture, all over the world, yet they retain their own culture completely separate from humanity. They're professors at universities and they're making your two-percent lattes at the local coffee bar, so it stands to reason that they're also in high places of authority, as some are simply wild about alignments of power and influence. I still have some doubts that the entire race seeks to enslave humanity and rule the world in spite of some fairly elaborate efforts to quiet me. It's certainly the intention of some highly organized factions to either establish or maintain organizational structures of what some call "service-to-self" at the cost of less fortunate or less aware human lives. Some reptilians are gay and some are straight. An ex-boyfriend, who was also reptilian, was Jewish, and wildly handsome in human form with brown skin, green eyes, and wavy black hair. However, I'd neglected to learn early on which synagogue he belonged to. Talk about problematic . . . Oy!

The Brandon Corey Story itself is a farce, but that's pretty much been proven. The fear sown in its wake however, is more than likely real to those susceptible to this kind of trauma-based suggestive technique.

I could never really swallow that reptile thing. Until recently I have felt that shape shifting reptiles were impossible. Then I saw the following video:

Many people associate the ideas of reptile aliens with the research of David Icke.   While Icke may have done the most to bring the subject to public attention, the existence of reptile aliens is reported in a great number of highly credible UFO-related incidents.    But most people who have not themselves researched the subject extensively are not aware of this.    Through my own work I am aware of many cases of reptilian-humanoid encounters by credible witnesses.     The only outstanding question I have in my own mind is whether they are in fact capable of physically "shape-shifting" their entire physical body at will.    But I know of quite a few anecdotal accounts of the pupils shifting between round and slit, so at least that part of the concept seems pretty strong.

Remember Icke's story of the beginning of his career (told in The Biggest Secret or Children of the Matrix, I believe) where he was attacked at one of his book signings by a mob of pie slinging, costume wearing pranksters? The entire event was completely ruined, needless to say. I believe this to be the immature arm of TPTB reaching out to give Icke the appropriate dosage of 'hand-smackage', so to speak. Now after having to endure years of Icke outsmarting their attempts at preventing his seminars, etc., I would imagine TPTB to eventually become irritable enough to allow that immature arm to grow into something tantamount to a full-blown psy-ops campaign aimed directly at the man, Icke. I would imagine Icke himself to have been aware of such a persuasion as he most doubtedly lives the effects of these 'enemies' daily.

It would seem to me that the presentation of this video as a real documentary and subsequent Icke discredit because of it might have been TPTBs latest attempt at 'getting back' at Icke for revealing the many secrets he has let free. Might also have something to do with the reason why the front page of thetruthseeker.tv site dosen't show the 'disclaimer' they sent to Icke.

So my "suspension of belief" kicked right in and I was caught right up in the drama. I had some doubts along the way but the guy who played the "investigator" clenched it down tight for me. It seemed as if he was giving a testimony rather than reading lines. I have to admit I was fooled at first yet have to say in my defense that this story may be closer to the truth than we all expect.

I also suspect that Icke was caught off guard by the film makers. If not, his ship will sink faster than the Titanic. (It could also be an actual intelligence operation agaisnt Icke) I could never really swallow that reptile thing. Until recently I have felt that shape shifting reptiles were impossible. Then I saw the following video:

Either this is super good rendering with computer graphics - or - this is the real deal... check out the lizard eyes in this video. (I never believed Icke about the Reps but this is a compelling video)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid … ;plindex=1

btw - George H. W. Bush's eyes are blue!

TPTB obviously planned the thing from the beginning.

I didn't actually know what I was talking about with this comment it was just my first impression, I hadn't even watched the movie yet only the trailer and I was under the impression that the documentary movie was sensationalized in the same manner that the trailer was, although my opinion does still hold after seeing the movie: it seems to me that it would fit - TPTB (somehow) using Icke and Kemper even to allow the thing to move into the public arena before they lay down the 'hoax' ruse.

I couldn't actually find the part at the truthseekertv site where it says that the movie is fiction. In fact, the truthseekertv site says in bold print "buy this DVD now before THEY prevent us from selling it to you!" I know that they did tout the fiction story at one point (or the Icke site did) but I didn't find it last night when I searched. Anyone know if the truthseekertv site still has this info about the movie being a fake and if so where it may be found at that site? I would very much like to apply my own personal 'filter' to decide for myself whether it was fiction or real life documentation. Could it be that some parties have renounced their claim of the story being fiction?

I'm watching the thing through again to iron out my own 'kinks' with it - there's a part where they introduce 'the arena' and Corey says 'well I went online and researched them' and I'm like 'how the hell did you do that when I can't even find a single thing about them!?' Would anyone here happen to have any info at all about them? It would seem that they were being presented as a sort of 'good guy' society since the narrator of the documentary says that the members of 'the arena' believe things about world leaders which would parallel things Icke has written about these leaders. This _could_ serve to indicate that 'the arena' would be a force to work towards exposing this secret and that is even exactly what the documentary alludes to when they introduce the possibility that Kemper had ties with this group (and that Kemper allowed this secret to be the reason he decided to infiltrate the guards protecting the vice president.) . . . " . . . he didn't fail . . . he was double crossed . . "

Anyone care to discuss?

there's definitely something a little weird going on here

TPTB obviously planned the thing from the beginning. Presenting the real truth to the ignorant masses and then have the entire thing legitimately debunked as seen from the public eye.

EXACTLY.

It was necessary to have a trusted icon such as Icke be the one to announce it as a hoax so that it would be accepted as such by the true seekers such as those who follow him.

Real or hoax? Let me answer that with a question: Which reality does research confirm?

http://adobe.com/shockwave/download/dow … omoid=BIOW

From what I can tell the full video documentary is no longer available at Google video. Anyone have a link?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid … 7941865090

Etc there are more interesting bits.... but yeah, waste of time. Looks and feels like one of those cheesy direct to video B horror movies...

Barbara Marciniak (Pleiadian channeler) was discussing the "lizzies", reptilians, since her first books in 1990, for example. Although I guess she was not saying that politicians are shapeshifters per se, but I think it is mostly evolved from that line of thought; higher density/dimensional reptilian entities being "in control" in one way or another.

A good friend of mine attended a weekend workshop presented by Marciniak in the UK earlier this year. My friend said that during this workshop Marciniak actually claimed that it was she who first encouraged Icke to write about the reptilians. Make of that what you will.