Noble Realms — Another interesting weblink

Re: Another interesting weblink

null@example.com (Moralman) — Fri, 23 Jul 2004 06:19:05 +0000

aaronfirebrand wrote:

If you were the Creator of the Universe with a message for the world, why would you use a blithering idiot in a flashy suit and a cheap toupee (or giant pink hair)? These judas goats are there to make the whole concept look stupid, and to keep anyone from searching past the camouflage. They do a good job, too. I think Jesus is wondering "When do I get to go kick some posterior?" Ah, I'm just kidding. That's what I'd be thinking, though...

Dear Aaronfirebrand
kind regards
I think that Jesus Christ himself is genuinely irritated and annoyed by the TV Evangelists and their obvious bastardisation of Christianity.
No doubt when he(or his spirit) returns to Earth he'll no doubt deal with these treacherous money grabbing devils.
Sometimes I cannot believe what I see on TBN and some the TV Evangelists.
I think that Jack Van Impe and Rexella Van Impe are repetitive.
Morris Cerullo is an obvious conman but I find his tear jerking and screaming slightly amusing.
Benny Hinns stage performing is hilarious.
You've got to take your hat off to them though in truth...........I bet you that they all want to acting school part time whilst they were in the theological seminary.
Its a shame that such talented and intelligent have sold their souls for the almighty dollar.
yours thankfully
John

Re: Another interesting weblink

null@example.com (aaronfirebrand) — Fri, 23 Jul 2004 06:11:11 +0000

If you were the Creator of the Universe with a message for the world, why would you use a blithering idiot in a flashy suit and a cheap toupee (or giant pink hair)? These judas goats are there to make the whole concept look stupid, and to keep anyone from searching past the camouflage. They do a good job, too. I think Jesus is wondering "When do I get to go kick some posterior?" Ah, I'm just kidding. That's what I'd be thinking, though...

Re: Another interesting weblink

null@example.com (manyeagles) — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 22:19:30 +0000

Thank you for your posts Moralman and AFB. I wonder if Jesus is wondering "what did they do to the original message?" By that I mean, what has society done to what was the intended in the first place?

The "premiere fundy-quasi Christian show" that is so popular (in this area), one thinks; why doesn't that lady do something about her big pink puffy hair-du. Do people really take them seriously? Looks like they forgot to take their 8am meds...

Used to be Job's Daughter (masonic stuff for the girls), and it never made sense to me about how illogical it all seemed. Yeah, there was a general "nugget of spiritual truth", but somehow it all didn't make sense that God would be acting this way. Like somehow the original message had gotten twisted to accomodate whatever adgenda "they " wanted.

Re: Another interesting weblink

null@example.com (aaronfirebrand) — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 20:36:17 +0000

TV evangelists? Pat Robertson? Jack Van Impe? Billy Graham? Frauds! Most are either pro-zionist or pro-papacy. I've actually heard straight teaching from Doug Batchelor, whose Amazing Facts TV (on the Family channel) and radio shows are quite good. He's part of the Seventh Day Adventist church, which, of all denominations, seem to be the most honest with scripture (and they rarely ask for money). Doug's the son of a very wealthy transportation tycoon, and he turned his back on wealth to pursue truth. He lived naked in a cave for about a year with only a Bible to read. When he came down from the mountain and tried to find a church whose teachings lined up with scripture, he found none until the SDA. This is not an argument for a particular denomination. I don't join churches. But one of the best things I ever heard from a religious/spiritual teacher was "Don't believe it because I said it, look it up for yourself." That was from several SDA teachers. As Thedore Sturgeon, science fiction, writer stated back in the 50's or 60's, "99% of everything is crud" (or crap, depending on the quote). Apply that rule to anything and you'll be safe as houses (well, safe as you can be). Moralman, you absolutely nailed it with your comment on Job. Also, Nero's victims, the Waldenses, the list goes on forever. No precedent for a secret rapture. Just a lot of warnings about how terrible the persecution will be. Montalk, is there nothing you aren't on top of? Yep, it's a con, alright. The key, I think, is pulling together to pull the wool from our eyes. Mainstream christianity is the religion of the antichrist. Antichrist comes in the place of Christ, like antipasto in place of pasta. Watch for a man with "all the answers",heralded by the world, accepted by the Jews, and riding into Jerusalem on a donkey. And then blow town.

Re: Another interesting weblink

null@example.com (Moralman) — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 19:48:05 +0000

Dear Montalk and Aaronfirebrand
kind regards
Yes you are both correct especially Aaronfirebrand.
Your interpretation is spot on.
My point that Jesus would return in the New World AFTER he destroyed the present one as you rightly indicated.
The Anti-Christ will try to perfect an imperfect World and this will indeed be a smokescreen.
The World in its present state in every way can NEVER be perfected-it is damaged goods beyond repair in every way.
The Anti-Christ will convince the masses that he can repair this present World but the discerning such as us will be able to see through his smokescreen.
Yes the rapture is a scam.........God never raptured Job from his problems neither will he rapture us either-we must face them and we are facing them.
By the way what are all your views on TV Evangelists?
I'd love to hear your views.
yours thankfully
John

Re: Another interesting weblink

null@example.com (aaronfirebrand) — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 19:30:21 +0000

Moralman, I don't know which Jesus you refer to, but I'd like to share a little info (from the Bible). It is widely and incorrectly understood that Jesus Christ is coming to restore the world. Not according to scripture. He actually returns to, well, destroy it! Recall the admonition by Christ to beware "another Jesus". The FAKE Christ (antichrist) arrives to "restore" the world, but this is a ploy to take control of everything. This is the system put in place by illuminati operations, the system ready to place the "capstone" atop the unfinished pyramid. Lucifer's eye is what peers out at you from the back of your dollar bill. The world under this leader will become the absolute worst thing imaginable. So wicked as to be irredeemable. Only worthy of destruction. That's the point at which Christ returns. The wicked of the world, and the world itself are burned up. "The elements melt with fervent heat." The only ones not destroyed are those who are transformed instantly into a form able to withstand the destruction. An ascension to a higher incarnation, if you like. There is no secret rapture whisking the believers away to heaven, a teaching taught by liars to fools, having no basis in scripture. In biblical theory, which allows for about 6,000 years of history, the 6,000 years correspond to the 6 days of creation, after which came the sabbath day rest. At the destruction of earth and it's untransformed inhabitants, the earth lies fallow for 1,000 years as the redeemed spend that time in Paradise (a millenial sabbath). At the conclusion of this period, Christ returns to restore the earth to it's pristine, edenic state. The saints and martyrs rule here with him. I'm not claiming this is my belief. But it is exactly what scripture indicates will occur. I cannot say whether or not King Arthur will be a part of this. It seems unlikely to me, but then to me, Arthur is only legend, or perhaps a legend based somewhat on a real individual. It would seem, though, that both history and the counterfeit kingdom being established give credence to the biblical view.

Re: Another interesting weblink

null@example.com (lyra) — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 19:29:48 +0000

Don't apologize for posting the link Moralman, you didn't do anything wrong. Links and info. are always appreciated. It's just that you did ask for feedback. If you hadn't, I wouldn't have said anything. That website does come across as VERY "noisy" though. Lots of noise and confusion. It makes my head spin. Not only the way it's designed, with the center allignment thing, and different colored fonts and sizes, background imagery, etc., but also the sheer amount of material it covers. It tries to overwhelm the reader. There's so much stuff everywhere all over the place that one doesn't even know where to begin. That sort of thing does tend to drain one's energy, like BB mentioned.

"I can't understand why people would write website articles that are false and have no real meaning........."

Well obviously, to spread disinformation, noise, clutter and and confusion. Keep people chasing their own tail maybe. Could be for any reason, who knows.

Re: Another interesting weblink

null@example.com (montalk) — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 19:05:47 +0000

Thanks for the link - I read through cariel.com, which like the other link you posted (librarising.com), contains a mix of interesting ideas, questionable New Age ideas, and novel interpretation of Biblical concepts. All is worth reading if you have the time and discernment to sort wheat from flakes. For example, the spiritual concepts rang true, but I didn't agree with the website's claim that good aliens come from Sirius or that they are stationed on Nibiru (10th Planet) and will return with its passing.

I assume that when the New World comes along and the Illuminati are overthrown then Jesus would return and place knoble leaders in all the countries.

Part of the New World Order's agenda is to play on religious expectation that Jesus will arrive as a personal figure to rescue the world from its misery. If a personal Christ figure does appear on the world stage, overthrows the former visibly corrupt leaders, and puts in new 'noble' leaders to run various countries under his rule, you can bet your soul that this is a trap. Does the ante-christ not come before Christ?

It is more likely that the Second Comming is not the arrival of a single flesh and blood being, but rather the arrival of Christ Consciousness seated in the hearts of millions who will become increasingly receptive to it, as per the Cassiopaean concept of "The Wave".

If you want to go strictly on scripture, take this into account:

Matthew 24:23-26, NIV
At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!Ã‚’ or 'There He is!Ã‚’' do not believe it. For false Christ's and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect–if that were possible. See, I have told you ahead of time. So if anyone tells you, 'There He is, out in the desert,' do not go out; or, 'Here He is, in the inner rooms,' do not believe it.

There is little doubt that a better world and a raising of consciousness for those who choose to raise it are in store for the future. There's no doubt in my mind that the archetypes of Jesus and King Arthur will play a prominant part. However, the question is whether you interpret these archetypes from a spiritual/metaphysical point of view, or from a more limited literal perspective. The New World Order is counting on the latter, while the first is obvious for those with 'eyes to see'. Just sharing my opinion.

Re: Another interesting weblink

null@example.com (Moralman) — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:58:45 +0000

Dear Blackbox and Lyra
kind regards
Yes you may indeed be right.
The problem is that in a belief system such as this field alot of disinformation becomes information.
I apologise for putting this link here its just that I thought it was a useful link.
I can't understand why people would write website articles that are false and have no real meaning.
But then again this is the Internet.
yours thankfully
John

Re: Another interesting weblink

null@example.com (lyra) — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:52:43 +0000

Well.......................For starters, this website is "center alligned." Meaning, the font is alligned in the center, rather than to the right, left, or justified. The font is a bunch of different colors and the text is alligned to the center. This is a VERY bad sign, for ANY website. Someone else on this forum actually pointed out the whole "center alligned" thing to me. Time and again, it's always equated to websites that are crazy and reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaally "out there."

The psychology behind it is this: The website is totally crazy, the author is crazy and knows it, and in an effort to make themselves seem less crazy, they therefore center the text. By "centering" things, it's supposed to counter balance the unbalanced nature of the website.

Ever since this was pointed out to me, I've noticed it time and time again to be true. Many MANY crazy websites seem to be center alligned, using fonts of all different colors and sizes. And I've never seen a sane website who used the center allignment thing, not ONE.

Start paying attention, see if you all don't notice this too. It's amazing.

Re: Another interesting weblink

null@example.com (BlackBox) — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:52:34 +0000

John,

My point is that 85% of what you'll find on the web is noise/disinformation. It only crowds our minds, jumbles any clarity we hold, and distracts any energy we posess.

When you observe on the right-hand side of a website in regards to a cosmetic-product that proclaims to heal, this is a red-flag, IMO.

Re: Another interesting weblink

null@example.com (Moralman) — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:39:09 +0000

Dear Blackbox
kind regards
Well you are a universalist such as myself so obviously you want a better World too.
I assume that when the New World comes along and the Illuminati are overthrown then Jesus would return and place knoble leaders in all the countries.
You yourself have beliefs based on a better World true or false?
I am not sure what you mean by a noble monarchy.
I am not sure about the moral or spiritual nobility of the Windsors..........they could be reptilians as David Icke depicts them.
I have always been a person who holds the belief that the World has degenerated into a terrible mess and as such needs a massive transformation.
I was bought up as a Roman Catholic so I believe that Jesus plays a part(some would say the biggest) in the World to come.
As for the link I found it whilst web searching and if its garbage then fine but found some of the material useful but I need to read it more in depth before I can give it a rating.
yours thankfully
John

Re: Another interesting weblink

null@example.com (BlackBox) — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:26:26 +0000

Moralman wrote:

This was a website link that I thought might be of use to the people on this forum.

How thoughtful!

So what exactly do you believe is useful in particular?

Does Jesus incarnate, get a bit older, and THEN find the newly incarnated King Arthur? Do they then go to Britain and restore the noble Monarchy? Or does Jesus go to Avalon and awake sleeping beauty himself?

Re: Another interesting weblink

null@example.com (Moralman) — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:20:06 +0000

Dear Cameron
kind regards
Sincere apologies as I am new to this forum.
This was a website link that I thought might be of use to the people on this forum.
yours thankfully
John

Re: Another interesting weblink

null@example.com (cameron) — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:54:31 +0000

John -
Just so you know, there's a links forum where this type of post belongs. It will likely be moved, but FYI.

edit: also, if you're new to the forum-type communication, posting a reasonably explanatory topic title helps fellow board members to place where-is-what in the forum.

Best -
C