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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Super-Ancient Civilizations]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Blackbox wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Like if a person wants to succeed, first he sets his mind to dedicate himself/herself to a certain conclusion. In this case it&#039;s becoming wealthy. Now in linear thinking the &quot;means&quot; CREATES the end, right?</p></blockquote></div><div class="quotebox"><cite>Blackbox wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If time does not exist, we must start realizing that the blast of a bomb CREATES the line of events from Scientists researching the atom to the big-man-in-charge saying &quot;Fire!&quot;</p></blockquote></div><p> It is possible to perceive the present from the perspective of that &quot;end&quot; (which may be created consciously. In this case it is an &quot;aim&quot; rather than an &quot;end&quot;). This feels quite nice as current upsets can be seen as minor &quot;glitches&quot; since the &quot;end&quot; result has already been achieved. This can be seen as &quot;living backwards&quot; in a way. I am not sure I am being very clear here but y&#039;know what I mean!</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2004-06-06T02:13:09Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#039;s kind of a funny topic. Not ha-ha funny, but that if you think about it, all conclusions occur by the transitions of events that achieve step-by-step milestones that ultimately lead to the end-result.</p><p>Like if a person wants to succeed, first he sets his mind to dedicate himself/herself to a certain conclusion. In this case it&#039;s becoming wealthy. Now in <strong>linear</strong> thinking the &quot;means&quot; CREATES the end, right?</p><p>But what if linear thinking is a backwards way of thinking of the whole process? What if the process occurs via ANTI-TIME factors? I mean that the END results CREATE the means? I know it&#039;s odd to think about it from this angle, but we&#039;re linear beings and are stuck by the limitation(s) that presents. If time does not exist, we must start realizing that the blast of a bomb CREATES the line of events from Scientists researching the atom to the big-man-in-charge saying &quot;Fire!&quot; The end result from the bomb, the purpose of the bomb, is the energy that is released by its effects. Anything more in observations would lead us to be subjective.</p><p>SOOOO.....without me rambling anymore and with the seeds planted on the ideas I&#039;m bringing up, artistic works of expression that are intended for &quot;waking up&quot; our comrades are part of the MEANS to creating the END result of the possibility of influencing or rather manifesting a turn-of-events.</p><p>So the whole reason I brought this up was to say that it&#039;s never &quot;too late&quot;, seeker. It&#039;s just a matter of concentration and focus of the masse. A network has the might of the Universe. Focus our energies together and we add our vibrations together. Add our vibrations together, and we&#039;re literally rocking the cosmos baby. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2004-05-05T04:05:32Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The CGI film idea is great. If anyone here on this forum has artistic or some other talent that can influence people, by all means use it to wake people up, even if it&#039;s already too late in the game to be woken up. Every little bit helps.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2004-05-05T03:40:01Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>The fifth race then, could possibly mean either humans evolving through DNA mutation in preparation for the next world, or it could be the alien hybrid race.</p></blockquote></div><p>Precisely. I&#039;ve been reading up on this also. This summer is going to be very eventful indeed. When I read this from your perspective, I started to shiver...a very good sign of resonation. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> Thanks for posting this seeker and I apologize for taking so long to respond.</p><p>We should keep this topic going when we get more information. This is probably the MOST important thing on my plate to research for this year. I agree with you that the 5th race is US, but of course the US that is meant to live-on past 2012. Sad to say <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /> But the 5th race are our children.</p><p>This topic is highly important for another reason to (for me that is). I intend to make CGI short-films in regards to revealing arcane-history. Hopefully that will lead me to motion-pictures, video-games, quantum-AI, and so on. I seem to be getting enough attention by business men lately so I&#039;m very confident that I&#039;ll be able to contribute to OUR cause. Hopefully if I do produce these projects I wont be beaten up by the MIB. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2004-05-05T01:11:36Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hey Blackbox, I&#039;ve actually been researching this stuff since your original post a couple weeks back, and while I haven&#039;t found much on ancient civilizations themselves, I discovered something quite amazing in itself.</p><p>I think everyone here is familiar with Edgar Cayce, the psychic. Well he predicted that in the middle of 2004 (this year) the Hall of Records would be disocvered, which is basically a vast library of information detailing human history before and up to the destruction of Atlantis. Supposedly, when the destruction of the Atlantean civilization was imminent, 3 groups were sent to different parts of the world to store 3 identical copies of the Records for future cultures to learn about the history of that time. Cayce named the three locations of the Records as under the Sphinx in Egypt, an area in modern Guatamala, and an island in the Bahamas. I can&#039;t remember the specific names of the last two places right now. The Records under the Sphinx won&#039;t be uncovered as long as Zahi Hawass is in charge of Egyptology. God forbid it be discovered that the pyramids and other monuments weren&#039;t built by the Egyptians! No, the Egyptian government cannot have that. However, a team is currently planning an expedition this summer to Guatamala specifically to search for the Records there. That&#039;s not the most interesting part though. Cayce predicted that the &quot;fifth race&quot; would start to appear in 2004 when the Records are found. Technically, Homo-Sapien-Sapiens (us) are the fourth race of humans. The fifth race then, could possibly mean either humans evolving through DNA mutation in preparation for the next world, or it could be the alien hybrid race.</p><p>It should be interesting to see what&#039;s &quot;uncovered&quot; this summer. Perhaps that long decline toward novelty on the Timewave Zero graph starting in July of this year is related to this?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2004-04-28T15:54:14Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Tom, I had tried a link from some other page about a month ago that said the transcripts were no longer available, or something like that, but this link works.&nbsp; Yipee!!&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>--V</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2004-04-28T12:40:38Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi V and BB,</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>I would very much like to see an excerpt from the transmission/s pertaining to this information.&nbsp; If you don&#039;t have postable access to that particular session/s maybe Tom does?&nbsp; Tom?</p></blockquote></div><p>Here they are below. And remember, you can download the transcripts yourself from <a href="http://www.geocities.com/trixy3992/">http://www.geocities.com/trixy3992/</a></p><p>-------</p><p>Q: The next thing is the dietary restrictions. Many cultures eat <br />rabbits and pigs, in specific, those of Aryan extraction. The <br />rabbit was sacred to Athena, and the Celts at a LOT of pork. <br />Yet, here these items are restricted from the diet of the Jews. <br />Is there any relation between the diet as outlined here, and the <br />Aryan genetic tendencies to conquest and domination? <br />A: Trichinosis used to be nonexistent in Aryan types... But, <br />mixing of genetic factors eliminated this. <br />Q: So, the Jews were susceptible to trichonosis, and the <br />Aryans were not? <br />A: Originally. <br />Q: So, it was necessary for the Jews not to eat the pork, but <br />not for the Aryans, and the mixing caused susceptibility. In a <br />general sense, are strong Aryan genetics indicative of the <br />necessity for the consumption of meat? <br />A: In a sense, but pescadorial features substitute semi- <br />adequately. <br />Q: Pescadorial. Semi-adequately. What needed to be added <br />so that the substitution would be not just semi-adequate, but <br />totally adequate? <br />A: Iron/protein levels.<br />Q: So, it is the iron that the Celts need? Well, that brings me <br />to the next question: In all the Celtic folklore when they talk <br />about &#039;fairies,&#039; which are obviously other density beings very <br />similar to our modern &#039;Gray alien,&#039; these fairy/slash aliens insist <br />that no iron come near them in any way. It was also said that <br />bringing iron into contact with someone thought to be a <br />&#039;changeling&#039; would prove whether or not they were because if <br />they were, they would disappear instantly. Also, the <br />instructions for the building of the Temple of Solomon <br />included restrictions on the use of iron in either the <br />preparation of the materials or the putting together of the <br />building itself, even down to the rejection of the use of iron <br />nails in any part. What is the significance of this restriction on <br />the use of iron by these other density beings, whoever they <br />are? <br />A: Bloodline trails. <br />Q: Are you saying that... I don&#039;t understand... not even well <br />enough to frame another question... <br />A: You will, my dear, oh will you! <br />Q: If it was necessary for the Aryans to have iron... okay, <br />maybe the iron is something that interacts... <br />A: What about iron as an element? <br />Q: Okay, let&#039;s see: Iron - derived from early Celt &#039;iserno,&#039; via <br />Illyrian &#039;eisarno&#039; from the IndoEuropean base &#039;eis,&#039; which <br />means to &#039;move vigorously; strong, holy.&#039; It is a white, <br />malleable, ductile, metallic chemical element that can be <br />readily magnetized, rusts rapidly in moist or salty air, and is <br />vital to plant and animal life; it is the most common and <br />important of all metals, and its alloys, as steel, are extensively <br />used. Symbol: Fe; atomic weight:55.847; atomic number: 26; <br />specific gravity: 7.86; melting point: 1535 degrees Centigrade; <br />boiling point 3,000 degrees C. The electron shells are thus: <br />2,14,8,2. Iron is an element of blood, hemoglobin, and is <br />easily magnetized... there is some new work about iron and <br />magnetite in the brains of people who are psychic or have <br />&#039;abduction&#039; experiences... is it the magnetism? <br />A: Yes.... <br />Q: Is it something that holds one more firmly in 3rd density, <br />and the elimination of it enables one to switch densities... or... <br />A: Tis magnetite that acts as a conduit, and perhaps, just <br />perhaps, allows for transference back and forth at will?!? And <br />what about the legend about the alchemists? Is not the key <br />term there really transformation?!? And has not the &quot;smoke <br />screen&quot; really been delivered so effectively by all the <br />concentration upon the substance?!? And does not this <br />remind one indeed of all the misguided concentration upon <br />substance rather than meaning that one finds so regularly on <br />3rd density?? <br />Q: I get it! So, it is the magnetite in the body, that collects and <br />holds the charge, and it has absolutely nothing to do with an <br />external substance at all! Is that it? <br />A: You are getting &quot;warmer.&quot; <br />Q: Am I right, we need more iron for magnetite, or am I <br />completely off base here? <br />A: You are right, but, do not underestimate the significance of <br />that just delivered! What better deception than to divert the <br />meaning of alchemy, by focusing upon substance, then <br />addicting those souls bound to 3rd density to the substance? </p><p>Q: ... So, they are <br />describing the Pyramid as a stargate, a timegate, a portal. <br />However, they are doing so in figurative terms, that the <br />person could mentally travel, or use this in some way. Could <br />you comment on this bit about the iron stargate? <br />A: Iron is highly magnetic. <br />Q: Yes, we know that... <br />A: Opens doorways or portals. </p><p>Q: ... But, during the time Neanderthal man <br />was on the Earth, did he live alongside Modern man? <br />A: Yes. Except modern type man was different then. <br />Q: In what ways? <br />A: DNA and psycho/electrical frequencies. <br />Q: Does this mean that their physical appearance was <br />different from what we consider to be modern man? <br />A: Radiance. <br />Q: What do you mean &quot;radiance?&quot; <br />A: You find out! <br />Q: Oh, that&#039;s interesting. Well, there are legends that the <br />Northern people had &quot;light&quot; in their veins. Very ancient belief. <br />Is this what you are referring to? <br />A: Maybe. <br />Q: Was this light related to the hemoglobin level, the iron level <br />in the blood? <br />A: Maybe. <br />Q: Did they have a much higher iron level in their blood? <br />A: Possibly.... </p><p>Q:&nbsp; What group mined the copper in northern <br />Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Michigan, like in Isle Royale?<br />A:&nbsp; Aryans.<br />Q:&nbsp; What did they want the copper for?<br />A:&nbsp; Weapons.<br />Q:&nbsp; Wouldn&#039;t iron make better weapons?<br />A:&nbsp; Not in 4th density.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2004-04-28T04:08:38Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>BlackBox wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Sorry to go on a tangent everyone, but I&#039;m getting a tad annoyed to not get any farther on this subject.</p></blockquote></div><p>Hey BB,</p><p>Are you sure it&#039;s just that you&#039;re on a &quot;tangent?&quot;&nbsp; Maybe it&#039;s that you &quot;thrive&quot; on gaining knowledge... hmmmm?&nbsp; </p><p>I admire your passion to realize the greatest of your/ourselves... it is a drive I understand (I wish I had a smiley face with &quot;cheap sunglasses&quot; on, it would be perfect here!).</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>BlackBox wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Did they have the full 12-DNA strand activation? Isn&#039;t the &quot;luminous&quot; characteristic due to iron in the blood? Pulling at straws with what I only know from C-materials</p></blockquote></div><p>Can you expand on these questions?&nbsp; Sorry, I know you would not be asking the questions in the first place if you had an answer, but why do you choose this particular line of questioning, about iron, to delve into/access knowledge about ancient civilizations?&nbsp; </p><p>I was at a session the C&#039;s relayed about this iron thing.&nbsp; I have thought about it a number of times since because I never understood it the first time <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/roll.png" width="15" height="15" alt="roll" />... though it has been a time since it has crossed my mind.&nbsp; I wonder if time, education, and perspective may now allow for an easier understanding... <em>and</em> maybe somebody else here at NR knows what this is all about and I won&#039;t have to &quot;bust a new brain move&quot; (ouch!) to &quot;get it!&quot;&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /> Snicker! Snort!&nbsp; Although I don&#039;t mind a bit working for what I want to know, sometimes I too would just like things explained... simply, &#039;specially when my consciousness &quot;in box&quot; is already overflowing. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p><p>I would very much like to see an excerpt from the transmission/s pertaining to this information.&nbsp; If you don&#039;t have postable access to that particular session/s maybe Tom does?&nbsp; Tom?</p><p>--V</p><p>BTW--it dawns on me that I am probably at least twice your age, the reference to &quot;cheap sunglasses&quot; may be lost on you, do you know the ZZTop song I&#039;m talking about called <em>Cheap Sunglasses</em>?&nbsp; It&#039;s not important, just a giggle.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2004-04-28T02:45:56Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Atlantis - Lemuria - Osirians -</p><p>------------------------------------</p><p>These are all Silver Age civilizations. The C transcripts imply there were, as obviously there were, many many GREAT civilizations that preceded these 3.</p><p>I mean, isn&#039;t anyone else getting curious to know some specifics? It&#039;s <strong>OUR</strong> past that we are all blind of. By &quot;our&quot; I mean the human race. I for one am very interested in that which is not known yet is so profoundly a part of our existence that is needed to put effort in reclaiming the knowledge.</p><p>Imagine all of the great things that have occurred, the great technologies, the great poems, the statues and monuments, the love-triangles, and even wars that are directly-linked with our present situation right now. Linear.</p><p>Sorry to go on a tangent everyone, but I&#039;m getting a tad annoyed to not get any farther on this subject. The only way, besides for contacting Marciniak, Laura, etc, to get answers of this sort via channeling, is setting up my own reciever, but that&#039;s definately not me. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2004-04-10T22:28:35Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi group.</p><p>My knowledge of civilizations <strong>before</strong> Atlantis and Lemuria is lacking. I think the only word I can say is Gor and I still need to learn more about that also.</p><p>Perhaps anyone who knows of civilizations making Atlantis look like the U.S. in comparison could post it up in point-form?</p><p>I&#039;ve been trying to re-think what happened in the initial process when our soul-group went from 3D STO to 3D STS and were placed in the luminous first-type humans. I&#039;m trying to guess on what a STO being would do, in development of technologies, of adherence to the way-of-life spiritually it would be used to yet still being conflicted in a STS environment.</p><p>Did they have the full 12-DNA strand activation? Isn&#039;t the &quot;luminous&quot; characteristic due to iron in the blood? Pulling at straws with what I only know from C-materials.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2004-03-31T16:52:06Z</updated>
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