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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lyra,</p><p>Explanation: As I wrote to Tom, after posting on NR for a few months over a year ago, I went thru and deleted all my posts.&nbsp; Because of fear, as I&#039;ve recognized. I&#039;ve definitely been programmed to NOT TALK about &quot;abductions&quot;--I have to struggle to overcome the programming to even write in my journal about them. In my previous posts I&#039;d written about personal experiences with the reptilians, and the inner conflict became too much to deal with. And the fear, as ever since I awakened during one abduction and fought back my life has not been easy, to put it mildly. </p><p>But it comes to a point where fear rules your life, or it doesn&#039;t. There is so much NWO-generated fear in the usa and world now--I can feel it hanging over the usa like a dark cloud--that I got to the point of sink or swim.&nbsp; There is definitely more help available, or accessible, now to get out of the fear loop. I think it&#039;s true that it&#039;s either Love, or fear. Qualities, attributes, of Love include Truth, great Truths, and our individual perceptions of Truth.&nbsp; NR is a forum in which people share their experiences and search for truths, the best forum I&#039;ve found for this. My truths are no more important than anyone else&#039;s, but not speaking (writing) them out of fear is no longer an option for me. So I&#039;m back on NR. It&#039;s good to see so many still here, and new members, too. Also as I wrote to Tom, NR seems to be escaping the NASTINESS that is infecting so many forums, esp the usa-based ones. From what I read or hear about TV, this nastiness is being deliberately fostered. Nasty people will run the camps, I guess, or not mind that they are in their neighborhoods.</p><p>Anyway, that&#039;s why you couldn&#039;t find my posts.</p><p>Peace, wynderer</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 16:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>wynderer wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hi Jennifer and everyone else--</p><p>I&#039;m back again after over a year away.</p></blockquote></div><p>I clicked on your name to pull up past posts, but there were none...?&nbsp; Only the ones you&#039;ve done over the past day.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 15:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jennifer and everyone else--</p><p>I&#039;m back again after over a year away. Jennifer, I am sorry about the loss of Rosie. Even if we know that those who cross over still live, it is painful to have them gone from this plane. And thank you for starting this thread, as during the last year all of my cats died a very cruel death at someone else&#039;s hands.&nbsp; All who love their animal friends will know how devastating this was. I&#039;m not going into details, but did want to share an experience that helped me survive and get the faith and strength to carry on. </p><p>One of the worst parts of this was literally having no one in my life at this time who gives a damn about animals. In desperation I went to my computer to write to a relative stranger about this. As I was sitting crying at my computer, preparing to write, it suddenly clicked off by itself, tho the lamp stayed on, and upstairs in my bedroom at the same moment my stereo went on by itself and started playing the CD in it, &quot;Animal Songs&quot; by Will Tuttle; the first song, playing, was &quot;Alive!&quot; </p><p>Re animals and souls: One of the greatest coups in the NWO control/manipulation of human consciousness has been to disconnect almost all humans from the knowledge of our oneness with all-that-is, especially our oneness with our Earth and all the beings with whom we share our planet.&nbsp; One thing all humans, all countries, all peoples share in common is unending cruelty to the animals. The big shameful secret we all share. I believe this is a, if not THE, primary &quot;desensitizing&quot; tool used by the reptilians to accustom humans to cruelty. The immense suffering of millions of animals RIGHT NOW as I write provides food for the reps. I suspect that under the rules of karma and reincarnation as laid down by the reps, all the humans--most of us--who contribute to the animals&#039; suffering--factory farm &quot;meat&quot; or &quot;meat&quot; of any kind, etc., etc.--the forms of cruelty to animals are endless--I believe this partaking in cruelty to animals is one of the &quot;karmic&quot; tools to give the reps the right to treat humans as we do animals. And we ain&#039;t seen nothing yet as far as the karmic consequences of that go. I also find it interesting that Earth and animal rights groups are at the top of usa fbi &quot;terrorist&quot; organizations. </p><p>The hype about animals not having souls is a part of this propaganda. Whatever the soul is, animals do a lot better job of it than most humans I know. We could all learn lessons about acceptance, love, and joy from them. And use our own Spirit-given hearts and compassion to look into an animal&#039;s eyes and see the soul there.</p><p>Chet Snow wrote a book &quot;Mass Dreams of the Future,&quot; years ago before there was much talk of the shift and of different futures depending on our state of consciousness. There were three--or four?--different futures as seen thru the individual eyes of the many people he worked with.&nbsp; All quite grim futures--except for the one in which the humans lived on an Earth restored to health--in which, as one person described it, &quot;No animals are ever hurt here.&quot; Very few humans here now live their lives in such a way to develop the consciousness to end up there. This gives the reps lots more human food, even after the poor animals are all wiped out here--as we are well on our way to doing--and escape to the Earth of Peace they belong to. I think that&#039;s where the elephants you talked to are going, Jennifer. And where I hope I am going.</p><p>It is very painful to live on this Earth empathically connected with animals as I am.&nbsp; I have learned the hard way to keep my feelings and thoughts about animals to myself, because an incredible number of people throughout my life, before I learned to keep my mouth shut, have forced stories on me, all local WHEREVER I&#039;ve lived, of different particular acts of cruelty to animals.&nbsp; There is so much of this that goes on, quietly, in private homes.&nbsp; One place I lived in the country I heard someone torturing an animal at night outside. I called the cops on him. Since I moved I heard that he is still doing it. None of his neighbors say anything.&nbsp; Score one for the reps. </p><p>Anyway--when you cross over, Jennifer, all the animals you have known and loved will be waiting for you, and will greet you with love and joy. I&#039;m sure you know this already.</p><p>Peace, wynderer</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>UPDATE!!!!!!!!</p><p>I know this topic is &quot;dead&quot;, but I&#039;ll resurrect it <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> This update relates to my last story (which happens to be the last post in this subject). So &quot;orange cat&quot; as I call her, is doing great. She is doing well, albeit with all the stichs. After posting the last post, the woman thought the cat wasn&#039;t going to make it and I thought &quot;great, I lied to myself and NR, the cat is going to die!&quot; but alas, it survived and is kicking ass. Tonight, I spent some time with &quot;orange cat&quot; while at work. The Lady&#039;s husband went to park the car and left the cat with me in the cage. It was purring and seemed so happy in my presence and smiling (do cats smile? this one sure did!). A woman that lives in the building walked in the door and noticed the cat and I told her what happened to it a few weeks back. She LOVED &quot;orange cat&quot; asked &quot;why did you jump out of the window, silly cat?&quot; It was funny and the cat was looking at me, happy and gave off the vibe &quot;because I&#039;m a smart, silly cat!&quot; It was dog-like, very personable to me, even though the cat doesn&#039;t know me well. It&#039;s just pure cuteness. </p><p>To make my job situation pleasant and fun, I&#039;ve recruited myself to be the cat&#039;s agent and make her the celebrity of the building. I&#039;ve told a few people about it and they absolutely loved hearing about her fall from the 7th floor and her quick recovery. It seems that when they hear this story and see the cat for themselves, people have a more calmer vibe to them than their &quot;GO!GO!GO!&quot; vibe that they usually have. Of course, I tell a certain few because some others are just so vile that sharing a cool story like this is like throwing buckets of vomit at them (I think I heard that expression here in NR or somewhere else-I love this expression- puts alot of perspective on things!). </p><p>So when the guy came in, after finding a parking spot, I jokingly said &quot;I really like your cat, can I catnap her?&quot; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> The family that owns the cat have a sense of humor, so it was safe for me to joke around with them. They may give it away...hopefully to me, since they&#039;ll move back to Baltimore soon. So who knows! Until then, I&#039;ll be on the lookout for orange cats in this city. I would really like one.</p><p>Thanks, guys!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 09:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Here&#039;s an awesome story that happened at work about cats! It&#039;s a coincidence of some sort, since LipstickMystic was talking about her little kitty and how awesome cats are. I hope this will make someone here in NR love their cat/dog/pet even more <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />!</p><p>Yesterday, this woman left her kitchen window open and her cat jumped out of the window, falling down 7 stories right to the concrete. I wasn&#039;t there to see it, but my coworker and a few onlookers told me that when the cat landed on the sidewalk, it made a loud boom sound and people freaked out when they saw the cat, just laying there, jerking side to side as it went quickly to the bushes for some reason. The owner and her little 3 year old girl came downstairs and took it to the Animal ER. Now, everyone thought it was dead, considering it jumped 7 floors and landed on the cold concrete sidewalk, with a little bleeding coming from the little cat. A few hours later, I saw mother and daughter coming up the street and she told me the cat is in ICU with a fractured thigh bone and minor internal bleeding. They said the cat will recover since it&#039;s only a year and a half old and had remarkable reflexes (I assume all cats do!?). So maybe cats do have 9 lives? I don&#039;t know, maybe I&#039;m naive, but I would say so.&nbsp; </p><p>I just think that&#039;s amazing! Period! I thought about Lipstick&#039;s post when she said her cat is going to be alright eventually and saying to myself &quot;wow, it&#039;s true, cats are definetely no joke! they&#039;re awesome!&quot;. I thought about why the cat would do such a thing, but she has fatten up and got big and would hang around the window ledge and lost grip, though, I don&#039;t understand why someone would let their cat hang around an open window, especially with a 3 year girl in the house, but we&#039;re talking about the cat here, not them. Anyways, I thought it would be a nice thing to share with you guys about the topic of cats and pets in general.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 18:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>good thing, good idea.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 23:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>(druid, hope you don&#039;t mind, but out of consideration for the intent behind this thread, I moved your last post to another one, <a href="http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=45176#p45176">The Spiritual Evolution of Animals</a>, which is better suited for continuing anthroposophical and related discussion about the soul nature and evolution animals. )</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 22:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Jennifer, I&#039;m very familiar with your download explanation.&nbsp; I&#039;ve thought of it in software terms as well, and I thought Robert&nbsp; Monroe&#039;s explanation of a &quot;rote&quot; was interesting.&nbsp; I guess he wasn&#039;t as conversant with computers as we are so he had to come up with his own wording for it.&nbsp; But it&#039;s an interesting phenomenon, isn&#039;t it?</p><p>Before I had much to do with computers, I called them &quot;encapsulated thought forms.&quot;</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 16:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yes, there do seem to be various bandwidths of etheric energy (or astral dimensions) that specific animals gravitate towards after they die.&nbsp; Dog bandwidth for dogs, cat bandwidth for cats, but I&#039;ve also seen that they can travel from one bandwidth to the next just as Red Elk talked about.&nbsp; </p><p>When my white cat Earl died around this time last year after a two year fight with diabetes, I asked him what the afterlife was like from his vantage point. He showed me an image from a cat&#039;s perspective of walking low in the fragrant grasses and weeds here on the property on one of the most perfect early summer mornings, when all of life is fresh and new with possibility. And he showed me that he was a kitten again - or rather, he felt like a kitten again because he was no longer dragging around an old and sick body. The image he sent was very cool and vivid. It was like a shapshot of what he&#039;d experienced in this life, complete in every detail.&nbsp; He had been a mostly outdoor cat who loved to go on long range walks around his territory.&nbsp; </p><p>The image he sent me might have been symbolic of what he immediately saw during his transition time, not the time after that, but the feelings of joy he sent were so clear that I didn&#039;t really worry where else he might be going!&nbsp; But there have been other times in contact with deceased animals when I&#039;ve seen the doggie and kitty heaven place.&nbsp; There is a &quot;god&quot; of each dimension - or I should say, an &quot;elder&quot;, so if you want to talk to doggies or kitties who have passed on, it&#039;s good to meditate and invoke the help of this elder who watches over the spirits of the animals in each dimension.</p><p>When Rosie died his &quot;dad&#039; dog very clearly entered this reality to guide him back to where all the dogs were. So that was cool.&nbsp; I think it was interesting that it was his dad in this case and not his mum.&nbsp; I don&#039;t know the details of Rosie&#039;s early puppyhood so I don&#039;t know if he even knew his dad. Maybe inside he&#039;d always had a question about what his daddy was like and longed to meet him, and he was granted that wish at transition time.</p><p>I think some interesting things are going on in the &quot;afterlife,&quot;not just for animals but for humans. I think the incarnational game is changing and a lot of spirits are finishing up their Earth time and getting ready to move on to other realities and new creations. And that&#039;s very exciting. When that elephant spoke to me, she was hinting at that - that the Earth isn&#039;t the only game in town and that there are many other realities and less dense worlds where there is greater freedom, fun, and love.</p><p>Pictus, whenever a being telepathically communicates with me, I sort of download the concept that they are sending me as a multidimensionl picture/hologram or as an energy ball and then my higher guidance helps me extract information from that energy ball. Think of it as downloading software to your desktop.&nbsp; There the software sits, but you can&#039;t quite read it yet, even though you know the overall theme of what it does or what it&#039;s about.&nbsp; And then you use a file extractor to extract the files contained in that software so you can read the files or the manual or whatever one by one.&nbsp; After the initial download, concepts become linear.</p><p>That&#039;s what downloads are like for me, no matter who I&#039;m &quot;talking&quot; to. Or I should say - whom I&#039;m &quot;listening&quot; to!&nbsp; So many wonderful teachers have stopped in to deliver &quot;lectures&quot; that it&#039;s amazing sometimes. I don&#039;t know what to do with all the notes my honey and I have taken. I need to get more of it out there but it&#039;s overwhelming at times.</p><p>In the file extraction stage, the information forms itself as linear concepts and the flow starts to be much more like real conversation, and I can ask questions for clarification and so forth.&nbsp; So once the energy ball arrives I can analyze the pieces and ask questions if I need more explanations.</p><p>I also sometimes see images and scenes conveyed by the being as they show concepts from their own life - they show me what they see or saw in a particular life if they have lived as a physical being.&nbsp; So a spiritual guide will carefully tell me all about their past lives, their spiritual influences, their gifts and talents before we work together. </p><p>I&#039;ve learned a lot about many Indian tribes and their true spiritual practices this way and have been lucky to have some of it confirmed by real shamans who realized that I &quot;knew&quot; in this way.&nbsp; &nbsp;In modern shamanic practice, as far as what&#039;s been printed in books and stuff, we&#039;re only getting about 25% of the picture. There&#039;s a lot more involved because it&#039;s really multi-dimensional vibrational healing and most people still aren&#039;t ready to receive that info.&nbsp; I think more are getting ready, though, so I hope these techniques are able to be brought forward more in the coming years.&nbsp; And I&#039;m certainly willing to do my part!</p><p>Novice,</p><p>I&#039;d love to reveal more about the elves sometime....but they&#039;re an extremely private people who aren&#039;t fond of the &quot;density&quot; that most humans bring to invoking/speaking with multidimensional entities....so they&#039;ve temporarily asked me not to reveal too much of what they&#039;ve shared with me, and I have to respect that.&nbsp; It goes against my grain not to be a blabbermouth, but I have to respect their privacy for now.&nbsp; </p><p>The problem is the more that is revealed, the more garden variety low level sorcerors who may stumble upon this thread will start trying to invoke them in magical rituals and trying to affect them spiritually through enslavement, which is what New Agers often do, and they&#039;re not eager for that type of contact.&nbsp; I can&#039;t blame them!&nbsp; </p><p>I don&#039;t really know why they&#039;ve been interested in striking up dialogue with me, other than I live near a ley line and I can usually pick up on telepathic exchanges if I&#039;m not tired or under the weather.&nbsp; Our communication has very much been like ambassadors of different races swapping information in an extremely polite, almost old-fashioned, way.&nbsp; There are a lot of protocols observed in their society, and we exchange gifts each time we communicate (I formulate items as energy and give them to them; they give me things back.)&nbsp; So it&#039;s like dignitaries getting together.&nbsp; My honey and I just try to be as polite and &quot;not icky human&quot; as possible with them, keeping our vibrations high, and basically just try to listen and learn.&nbsp; They have a lot to teach us but they aren&#039;t really fans of blabbing their entire species&#039; wisdom to the whole world.</p><p>I will say this - they are extremely tall - the shortest ones are 6 feet or so - and very thin, they have thinner frames than we do.&nbsp; And they all look extremely young, like 25, even though many are hundreds of years old.&nbsp; They&#039;ve learned a lot of cool things about preventing aging and ill health, mostly through sound vibrational healing.&nbsp; But they can pick up viruses and negative energy and illnesses - that&#039;s another reason why they don&#039;t want too much contact with humans because they can get sick from our unbalanced energies being aimed their way. I was privileged to help out with a healing once for a young elven girl and I was using color healing to heal her, and they were amazed at that because their medicine is more sound based.&nbsp; So we&#039;re learning a lot of things from each other. They have a type of &quot;technology&quot; which involves applying encapsulated concentrations of specific sound frequencies (in what look like little blown glass bubbles) to various areas of the body for healing. So their &quot;doctors&quot; carry these little kits around with the sound bottles or bubbles in them, and the sound healing is successful about 99.9% of the time.</p><p>I talk with them for about two days at a time about three times a year and have been trying to write everything down for more sharing when/if the time is right.</p><p>Okay, I&#039;ve rambled enough!&nbsp; Thanks again for all the kind sentiments expressed in this thread.</p><p>LipstickMystic aka Jennifer</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 15:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I am very sorry to hear of the loss of your loved one LipstickMystic. I always thoroughly enjoy your posts and find them most enlightening.</p><p>I don&#039;t post much but I couldn&#039;t help thinking of this short passage from an interview with Red Elk on The Spectrum web site describing dog heaven...I&#039;ve lost many cats in the past few years and gained much comfort from thinking that they had gone on to such a cool and happy place. Have you had any experience of these realms? </p><p>&#039;There’s Heavens for dogs, Heavens for cats, Heavens for horses–I’ve seen many of them; just beautiful.&nbsp; When a dog dies, I don’t care how vicious the dog is here, it has done no wrong.&nbsp; It might have been trained wrong, or whatnot, but it’s done no wrong.&nbsp; Or, done wrong through madness, like rabies or something, but it is free.&nbsp; It is just free.&nbsp; And these animals, no matter what breed, and birds, and fish, all kinds of things, this Heaven is a mass rolling cloud, for each individual-type animal–you know, dogs for dogs, horses for horses.&nbsp; And I say it’s like that.&nbsp; It’s a cloud of pure–say we’re going to dog Heaven, right?&nbsp; It is a cloud of absolutely pure dog awareness joy.&nbsp; It is something else.&nbsp; I’ve had to help some animals into this Heaven, including two or three of my own who were so attached to us, they wanted to stay with us.&nbsp; No, it’s time for them to go home and enjoy what’s there for them.&nbsp; So, I’ve had to take them, in spirit actually take them, and show them the place.&nbsp; And they look, cock their heads, and “Wow!” </p><p>And I say: “It’s ok.&nbsp; Go!”&nbsp; &nbsp;And they just run and leap into this, and just become one with this mass of joy.&nbsp; I’ve gone up, occasionally, just to look.&nbsp; And this is the only Heaven that I, literally, go up to on my own.&nbsp; The rest of the time, I’m taken into the Heaven for us.&nbsp; By the way, there are animals in that Heaven for us, too.&nbsp; And what happens is, these animals from Dog Heaven, for instance, they’re called by their former masters and they’ll just transfer to there, and be with them.&nbsp; &nbsp;But they are not “locked”&nbsp; into the human Heaven.&nbsp; They can go back and forth.&nbsp; If they get tired of being around: “Sorry, pop, I gotta go.&nbsp; I’ll be back later.”&nbsp; &nbsp;And bang, off they go.&nbsp; This Heaven is a kick! </p><p>Like I’ve said, I’ve been up there, and suddenly one of the animals, over my lifetime, in this mass of confusion, chasing each other, biting each other on the butt, just having dog-fun, not hurting anything, just having fun–then, they’ll all of a sudden recognize that I’m out there, watching, because I’m not allowed to go INTO this.&nbsp; </p><p>And suddenly, word seems to go out: “Hey, Red Elk is out there!”&nbsp; &nbsp;And then just out of this massive cloud would bound a little whiff or cloud, and turn into one of my former animals, and just run up, and sit down, and look up at my face, and the tongue would be out, saying: “I’m having fun.&nbsp; Nice to see you.&nbsp; Bye!”&nbsp; &nbsp;And that’s that.&nbsp; It’s a wonderful place.&#039;</p><p>PS Maybe you could elaborate on the Elven world you described in a recent post at some time...I found that fascinating!:)</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 10:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m sorry about your cat&#039;s passing, Lipstick. Pets are really like people the more I think about it. It&#039;s all in the eyes (and not just animals, either) and whomever coined that phrase &quot;eyes are the windows of the soul&quot; couldn&#039;t have said it better! </p><p>It&#039;s great you posted how dogs and cats and animals in general have an individual purpose. That reaffirmed what I&#039;ve always believed&nbsp; about animals and simply couldn&#039;t understand and accept that they&#039;re empty beings. They sure aren&#039;t. My brother&#039;s dog absolutely loves me to the point where I play with him more than my little nephews. Go figure! There&#039;s just something so deep about him, yet fun and whacky that it&#039;s funny. A complete and total munchkin! </p><p>Pictus: Awesome picture!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 06:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Glad you guys liked the picture, I just mixed some images <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p><strong>LipstickMystic</strong> when you exchange or receive information from the Earth<br />animals or extra entities the information comes all in one second or is linear?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Oct 2006 03:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>druid wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Just another anthroposophic comment:<br />Steiner said that the death of an animal isn&#039;t anymore tragic than getting your hair cut ; i.e. when you get your hair cut you cut something &#039;living&#039; but you still continue to live (I hope so).</p></blockquote></div><p>By the way, I never said that I thought death was tragic. I don&#039;t.&nbsp; I&#039;ve had too many spirits of dead people and animals come around during their transition time (the three days it takes for the spirit to fully make the transition from this plane to the next) and express SHEER JOY at being out of their heavy bodies.&nbsp; It&#039;s much nicer without a body, even if your body wasn&#039;t particularly old or sick.&nbsp; </p><p>So while I mourn the loss of an indvidual being, Rosie, who was a wonderful part of my life, I am in no way immersed in feelings of tragedy. Far from it. I&#039;m very lucky to have had so much contact with the dead because, after you chat with a few folks who have passed on and learn stuff that is independently verifiable - stuff you didn&#039;t know beforehand - it shows you how life is everlasting. It&#039;s just the body that doesn&#039;t keep up.</p><p>Also, I think people need to learn the difference between mourning someone in the spiritual sense vs. being mad at God or whatever for taking someone away. True mourning is an expression of love, a celebration of all that a person or animal was, an opportunity to open the heart and allow that love to flow freely.&nbsp; Tears aren&#039;t bad. They keep the heart open. Tears are good.&nbsp; </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>druid wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>One day in the not so far distant future, animals will disapear, and it is not due only to our way of living that creates more endangered species each year</p></blockquote></div><p>Again, it&#039;s useful to talk to the animals about this one.</p><p>About a decade ago I was at the Washington National Zoo in the early hours, just after it opened. Things were quiet, no people were around, and I was able to make telepathic contact with several animals. One was the last surviving panda, whose partner had died the year before, I believe. What a sweet and funny personality!&nbsp; Very mischievous and playful, which I didn&#039;t expect.</p><p>I went over to see the elephants. They weren&#039;t in an enclosure. They were standing not five feet from me with a small stone wall separating us.&nbsp; I looked into those big eyes and started crying and crying and crying. It just struck me how, one day soon, there will be no more elephants.&nbsp; And I was kind of caught up in my own grief about this when suddenly the elephant&#039;s mind broke through my thoughts. She was tellling me that it&#039;s all right for the elephants and the pands and a lot of the other creatures to be going. She shared with me a long narrative, I forget most of it now, but it was about how certain species (the ones currently endangered) carry a particular vibration in their cells and that the vibration that&#039;s changing on the planet right now (she didn&#039;t say this was negative; just that it&#039;s part of the Earth&#039;s evolution) is incompatible with many species down at the DNA level. And that she knew they were going to be moving on to a different type of life, a less dense form of body, in another reality, and that the animals who had already made that transition were very happy indeed. She wasn&#039;t talking about &quot;death,&quot; exactly. She was talking about animal spirits being able to &quot;incarnate&quot; in a new way, into a less dense body, somewhere else.&nbsp; And the animals were all looking forward to it!</p><p>This message came from OUTSIDE of me, directly from this nice elephant.&nbsp; Up until that point, I&#039;d pretty much been mad at humanity for forcing so many animals into becoming extinct, and it hadn&#039;t even crossed my mind that there might be some higher, perfect, and wonderful process going on. It humbled me that the elephants were aware of it, although here I was the &quot;psychic chick,&quot; and I was clueless about it!</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>druid wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You won&#039;t weep to much for your pets if you know they just awoke to a new life on the other side, in the ego of its specie. This is different form the life of a human being. Human beings are endowed ewith an individual ego, a personal biography that is absolutely unique. Animals have a stronger genetic memory ans specie-consciousness which is more unified than humans (our grop soul has split with the Fall).</p></blockquote></div><p>Again, I beg to differ here. This elephant was not telling me that the elephant essence would be retreating back into some group soul form of life. She was talking about reincarnating or taking on some form of body again, although a less dense body, while maintaining an individual identity who has her own goals, desires, and path.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>druid wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Also, Steiner mentionned that by (individualising&#039; too much an animal (forexample taking it as pet), it is torn apart from its group ego (the ego of this particular specie), and becomes a wandering fire-spirit, filled with passions and a pseudo-human-ego-individuality (because of the way we de-naturalised it).</p></blockquote></div><p>Again, I have to respectfully submit that this is bunk.</p><p>I have had telepathic contact with many wild animals.&nbsp; A coyote. Two whales. Many deer. Very close, very unusual encounters where I am in the wild and the animal decides for some reason that I&#039;m &quot;cool&quot; (or maybe am not smelling in those moments like the typical icky human <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> and decides to show itself and communicate.&nbsp; These are &quot;wild&quot; animals, they have not formed &quot;egos&quot; due to being pets or from being fed by humans or in any way habitualized to being in a relationship with humans.</p><p>AND THEY EACH HAD UNIQUE, RECOGNIZABLE PERSONALITIES.....hopes, dreams, aspirations, talents, and a unique place in the world.</p><p>If we all had more Dr. Doolittle/talk with the animals moments, I believe we&#039;d quickly disprove a lot of what Steiner theorized as being......inaccurate at the very least, bunk if you want to use stronger terms.</p><p>LipstickMystic aka Jennifer</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 19:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: When Beloved Pets Pass Over the Rainbow Bridge]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Lono, and Druid, too -- (I know you meant well with what you expressed and didn&#039;t mean to negate my current experience with grieving Rosie the dog <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>However......</p><p>Sometimes Steiner is just full of bunk.&nbsp; (IMHO)</p><p>I&#039;d be willing to believe half of what he wrote if I weren&#039;t psychic and couldn&#039;t talk to animals....plus receive telepathic communication in response.</p><p>And I&#039;m not talking about the typical type of quasi-psychic contact of the pet psychic type.&nbsp; (I love pet psychics, but too often they only seem to convey messages from the animal that are boring and made-up sounding, not necessarily verifiable messages of genuine contact with something outside their own understanding....along the overly simplistic lines of &quot;Me love treats. Me love to chase ball.&quot; Animals are a lot more intelligent than that. Even bugs.)</p><p>I&#039;m not telepathic with my animals 100% of time - far from it, as I&#039;m far too self-absorbed <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />&nbsp; Plus, it&#039;s invasive to go around reading thoughts all the time. The cat I have the best telepathic relationship with, my gray cat Smokapuss, doesn&#039;t seek me out with contact unless there&#039;s a specific message she wants to convey. Same with my other cats, pretty much.&nbsp; </p><p>Still, it&#039;s very cool when an animal can tell you stuff that is independent of you, i.e, outside your own beliefs and understanding, and you can later verify what they tell you.&nbsp; That&#039;s what I&#039;m talking about. That type of contact.&nbsp; I&#039;m not engaged with them at that level all the time, but it&#039;s happened enough over the years to be pretty damned cool.</p><p>For instance my oldest girl cat, Kirby, once told me back in my bachelorette days that some men had come into my apartment while I was out that day, and she was VERY clear about this message, and she wasn&#039;t talking about esoteric &quot;men&quot; or green men but very real humans. She said they came in while I was gone and fixed something, it took a few hours, and then they left.</p><p>At the time, I&#039;m going, &quot;Whoa.&nbsp; I don&#039;t usually hear Kirby the cat tell me anything. I must be making this up.&quot; Still, I went around my apartment and examined things very carefully. I saw nothing amiss or out of place so I just figured I was inaccurate with the message I thought I&#039;d received from Kirby.</p><p>That evening my landlord called me and apologized for the fact that he and the plumber had had to make an emergency visit inside my apartment earlier that day on no notice because there was a leak downstairs and it was coming from my plumbing system upstairs. It took them two hours to fix it and then everything was okay. They&#039;d put everything back so carefully and left such a small imprint on my space that I didn&#039;t even notice it.&nbsp; </p><p>But my Kirby knew!&nbsp; And having visitors suddenly barge into my apartment like that must have startled her, and she knew that I needed to know, so I got the news first from my cat. Much better than CNN!</p><p>I&#039;m sidetracking here from my main point, which is that I think it&#039;s bunk that animals have a group or &quot;hive&quot; soul and aren&#039;t individuals.&nbsp; None of the animals I&#039;ve spoken to didn&#039;t possess a clear, individualized consciousness.</p><p>They are also part of a soul group that chooses to incarnate as that species, but in that regards, they are no different from humans. We humans possess an individualized aspect as well as a group soul aspect.</p><p>What gets confusing is when you are part of group souls of humanoids from several different planets....like me and many metaphysical seekers...because while you can identify with the Earth human group soul since you&#039;ve had multiple incarnations here, you also fondly remember other worlds where things are .....nicer....and life is very different.....and so you are processing soul memories and instincts across multiple species.</p><p>Again, I digress.</p><p>Rosie the dog and Audrey used to love to sit outside with us on summer evenings and talk to us about stuff.&nbsp; I wasn&#039;t always tuned into their vibration and didn&#039;t always &quot;hear&quot; them. But on several occasions I was receiving such detailed and lengthy communications about their pasts, their hopes, their thwarted desires, and other info that I would be overwhelmed by information. My honey wrote down a lot of it while I dictated notes from the dogs. Maybe I&#039;ll go over the notes and see if there is anything that might be interesting to share here. I&#039;ll have to dig them out.</p><p>Rosie the dog told me lots of stuff about past stuff that happened on the farm and about current stuff going on with our neighbors - stuff I had no conscious awareness of but stuff we were later able to verify.&nbsp; During this same conversation he talked about HIS UNIQUE GOALS, his perceived role or function on this farm, and more.</p><p>He was pretty much a happy dog but he frequently expressed one regret - that he never had a &quot;little one&quot; so he could pass on all that he had learned, and all the wisdom he&#039;d accumulated, to his son or daughter.&nbsp; He sent me a clear image of a little black lab puppy and how he wished he&#039;d had one to teach stuff to.&nbsp; </p><p>What would he have taught this puppy?&nbsp; All kinds of stuff!&nbsp; About how to ward off etheric intruders, how to keep the people here safe, how to heal (he was a healer and an empath,) and more.</p><p>Do these sound like the goals, the aspirations, or the talents of a non-individual?&nbsp; Keep in mind that the things he shared with us were very different from the goals, dreams, and perceptions of Audrey the dog, his companion dog.&nbsp; She has a very different personality and very strong opinions about things. She&#039;s also a different breed of dog - an Italian spinone.</p><p>During Rosie&#039;s passing he showed me that he could see his daddy, a black lab, helping him astrally and guiding him through his transition to the spirit realm. But from his perspective this was simply a loved one helping him out.</p><p>No different from what I&#039;ve perceived around humans who are dying. We were blessed to be a part of my honey&#039;s mother&#039;s passing. She was 92. She&#039;d been gradually loosening her grip on this plane for about six months prior to her passing. She&#039;d be out of it and then come back and talk about how she&#039;d seen different people - from a minister to family members - nearby. They were acting as guides preparing her for her transition.</p><p>No different from Rosie the dog seeing his daddy dog at the time of transition.</p><p>So I respectfully submit that if you TALK TO THE ANIMALS -- or maybe more accurately -- LISTEN TO THE ANIMALS.....that they are a lot more like us humans than you might expect.</p><p>Individuals like we are AND also possessing strong ties to a soul tribe or group soul unique to that species. </p><p>Best,</p><p>LipstickMystic aka Jennifer</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 18:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Um, Druid.... I know you mean well, but... well.... that&#039;s really not the right thing to say to someone who&#039;s grieving over a pet.&nbsp; So what if Steiner thinks it&#039;s no more tragic than a hair cut.&nbsp; The truth is, every animal expresses that &quot;group soul,&quot;(if you subscribe to that) in a unique way.&nbsp; Jennifer is truly grieving, and that&#039;s legitimate.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 23:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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