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			<title><![CDATA[Re: opinions about the ra material]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Personally I found the Ra material to be very thought provoking, compelling, and challenging.&nbsp; I actually enjoy material written in that complex manner because it helps me to better familiarize myself with lofty concepts and generally increases my cognitive abilities.&nbsp; It&#039;s a good sign to me if I have to consult the dictionary to make it through a text without guessing.</p><p>Most intriguing concepts:<br />-law of one and it&#039;s &quot;distortions&quot; as the illusion<br />-chakras as symbolic of densities and vice-versa<br />-hyperdimensional attacks considered as &quot;greetings&quot;, the hidden act of love behind attacks<br />-chakra clearing through contemplative work rather than ineffectual energy exercises<br />-archetypes<br />-STS vs. STO</p><p>The only thing that I can really remember as being not so interesting to me personally at the time was the info on pyramids, banishment rituals....not much else that I can remember.</p><p>I do believe that the &quot;sources&quot; of the L/L Research channelings are of a very pure variety, as well as the actual channels, when compared to the phenomena of channeling itself and the people involved.&nbsp; They don&#039;t seem to be out to make a buck as all of their materials of available to be accessed for free on their website.&nbsp; As has already been pointed out, discernment is always a requirement to successfully digest the nutritious aspects of a teaching/info set and to leave the undigestible/toxic substances behind.&nbsp; While they were helpful for me at the time and place of my personal quest, I know they may not be for others since we all come to what we know through a myriad of different sources.&nbsp; I think heeding the disclaimer preceeding any &quot;Confederation&quot; channelings is a very safe idea.</p><p>StarCat, I&#039;m extremely interested in reading your response to the questions posed to you.&nbsp; You made some very intentionally targetted cryptic comments and suppositions and I would love to hear the &quot;why&quot; part of your reply to the topic.&nbsp; It&#039;s been days now and you have posted elsewhere on NR in the meantime, I&#039;m wondering if you are leaving us hanging on purpose or simply lack time to respond. Regardless, it would be nice to hear your thoughts on the matter as I&#039;m always looking for stuff to help challenge my belief system.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 00:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=45081#p45081</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>StarCat wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The Ra material is a dangerous source and attempt to foster deep metaprogramming and permanently embed it in peoples&#039; psyches and beyond into greater levels of their total being.</p></blockquote></div><p>StarCat, I&#039;m interested to hear more of your perspective on this.&nbsp; Can you elaborate?</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>StarCat wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It has programmed the better part of people in this forum to believe in something they keep repeating over and over again</p></blockquote></div><p>What is being repeated over and over again?&nbsp; Can you be more specific?</p><br /><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>StarCat wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Right now the real issue is being skirted mainly by egoic responses and posturing.</p></blockquote></div><p>What is the real issue that is not being directly addressed?</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>StarCat wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>There is an over the top focus on hyperdimensional information and its not what its cracked up to be.</p></blockquote></div><p>The topic of &quot;hyperdimensional information&quot; seems to me to be potentially very broad.&nbsp; Can you elaborate on what you are referring to and what your concerns are?</p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>StarCat wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The permutations on paradox and double standard are what approach infinity in this plane.</p></blockquote></div><p>There seems like there may be a lot of meaning packed into that sentence.&nbsp; Do you care to say more?</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>StarCat wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Children and people with awareness know that things are altered.</p></blockquote></div><p>Another large and potentially significant topic.&nbsp; If things are being altered, then who or what is doing this and how is it done?&nbsp; Perhaps that topic deserves it&#039;s own thread, and I think that there are other similar threads on this forum.&nbsp; For example, the thread(s) about timeline alterations.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 04:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=45080#p45080</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks montalk, that&#039;s helpful.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (wandering1)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 04:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=45079#p45079</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Wandering1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Montalk, I&#039;m interested to know what parts in particular you find dubious or inaccurate.</p></blockquote></div><p>Apologies, I made the mistake of saying &quot;maybe...dubious or inaccurate&quot; when it should have been &quot;does not currently resonate with me&quot; because I agree that much of this is a &quot;wait and see&quot; type of thing, and doubting something does not make it necessarily inaccurate. </p><p>To be clear, the Ra Material is one of my favorite channeling source. I like the C&#039;s material slightly more only because it covers a greater range of topics and contains more tactical clues about dark stuff. </p><p>But since you asked, in particular I found myself non-resonant with the following ideas: pyramids being thought into existence, the council of saturn, the souls of bigfoot and two million humans having originated on Maldek, that friendly feelings are (necessarily) evident of contact with Confederation forces, all the emphasis on ritual, that this planet has already become fourth density, and that after seventh density the octave repeats at an even higher level. None of this I can absolute disprove, so I&#039;m just leaving it in limbo. As matt_d82 reminded, &quot;If something does not resonate, please leave it behind.&quot;</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (montalk)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2006 04:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=45065#p45065</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>&quot;The Search for Truth: truth falls into your mind like rain upon a desert. Searching is no more than loving and listening profoundly; the wildflower blooms in the spring&quot;<br />~~carefulcarpenter</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 16:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=45059#p45059</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I often get the feeling, when reading all this information, and disinformation, that all we need to do is read with a open (and discerning)&nbsp; mind, and all that is happening, is that we are remembering truths that we already know.</p><p>Without these reminders from our past, we may never trigger the awareness.</p><p>I didn&#039;t used to think this way before I joined these forums, I used to be very suggestive, but now I read with detachment, and I let my Dream soul sift out the nuggets (while I sleep) and represent them to me as feelings, if and when, opportunities arise to confirm thier truths.</p><p>I had a sync with that 555 thread the other day, and at the time, I was quite taken by it, but I decided not to push it, and just see what occurs naturally. Nothing has yet, so be it.</p><p>This way, I am no longer confused by the constant paradoxes, and can continue my search for truth.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 11:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=45057#p45057</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>For all the criticism this material receives, I think it is important to put into context and understand the disclaimer that is written before each session....</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>&quot;It is offered in the hope that it may be useful to you. As the Confederation entities always<br />make a point of saying, please use your discrimination and judgment in assessing this material. If<br />something rings true to you, fine. <strong> If something does not resonate, please leave it behind, </strong> for neither we nor those of the Confederation would wish to be a stumbling block for any.&quot;</p></blockquote></div><p>For some reason, the language used in this material which others find difficult to comprehend, I find easy. Similarly other texts which others find easy to comprehend, I have difficulties. It&#039;s just the way it is. Still, it&#039;s one text that I use for learning the greater picture - it is merely one piece of the jigsaw. </p><p>The Ra Material does not claim to be THE source of information. That has been the problem (one of) with religions, cults and other fanatical organisations throughout history. They use texts that may have had genuinely good intentions, and perverted them for their own end.&nbsp; Through the use of this disclaimer and other acknowledgements throughout the material, it encourages the reader to use it the material as a guide only. The only time I will have a problem with it, is when someone uses the material as dogma.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 10:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=45054#p45054</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Truth falls out on the table--exposed--like a breast falls out of a dress; for the hungry newly born&nbsp; there is comfort and nurishment, for another, titilation followed by manipulation and confusion&quot;<br />~~carefulcarpenter</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 07:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>montalk wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Maybe a third of the material I find dubious or inaccurate, but the rest has provided me with some decent working hypotheses. If there&#039;s something wrong with a particular concept in the Ra Material, then I would like to understand both the flaw and its superior alternative, otherwise for me it stands.</p></blockquote></div><p>Montalk, I&#039;m interested to know what parts in particular you find dubious or inaccurate.</p><p>Not that I&#039;m saying it&#039;s all accurate, as I see many possibilities falling in a &quot;time will tell&quot; category.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2006 06:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=45040#p45040</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Ra Material was my first paradigm shift book.&nbsp; unfortunately, I did not use much discernment when reading! I absolutely ate Book 1 up- I absorbed the content easily and so much of the material made great sense to me at the time.&nbsp; The entire channeling scene is fascinating to me; especially the &#039;professional units&#039; such as Ra.&nbsp; Oddly enough, I have gotten the feeling that Ra is somehow tied to the Council of Nine.&nbsp; And just as Ra preaches human beings to emanate love and specific rays, does not the council of nine state through a mediate that they feed off of love vibrations.</p><p>The entire Loosh farm scenario hits close to home.&nbsp; It makes sense (then again reality has made less and less sense to me) that everything is recycled and consumed to maintain the balance of existence.&nbsp; thus our energy that we produce through this material experience would be livestock for another entity.&nbsp; against our will?&nbsp; or are we experiencing and learning while at the same time helping another being - killing two birds with one stone? ofcourse, the answer is more dynamic than what we can comprehend.&nbsp; fish in a glass bowl or an ant in the yard, indeed.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>nogueroles,<br />I found this summary of the Ra material to be accurate with the books and much easier to read.<br />The Ra materials resonated with me.<br /><a href="http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=category&amp;sectionid=6&amp;id=23&amp;Itemid=36">http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?o … ;Itemid=36</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 12:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=45016#p45016</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>We may all choose to accept or &#039;take in&#039; any or all of the information from Ra - if you choose to read it.&nbsp; Forming views is unnecessary - going further and perverting the information or promoting it religiously or in cult form may very well have negative or even dire consequences would it not?&nbsp; Agreeance is one thing, everyone following one mind is another - agree/disagree?</p><p>Assimilation of information should also be considered I&#039;d say - Is it not an acceptable path to &#039;take on board&#039; information with the notion &#039;it may be useful at some point&#039; or to even accept on the basis &#039;it provides the best solution or ideal view I have found thus far, so therefore I will keep it until I find better&#039;?</p><p>Is it not a stagnation of progress when one automatically assumes a view being passed or all outside forces as being powered by agendas?</p><p>In light of STS/STO orientation - if we understand and agree - is the importance of choosing and acting&nbsp; with one&#039;s choice not the important part, rather than the view itself?</p><p>I am also in support of Lyra&#039;s post in general.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 08:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=45008#p45008</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>When I first read the Ra Material, the language was too complex and the metaphysics too dense and lofty to hold my interest. Several years later, after exploring the more palatable Cassiopaean transcripts, I gave the Ra Material another look and was surprised to find it easier to understand, that it addressed many of the unanswered questions I had accumulated in the mean time. Year earlier the material was not <em>necessary</em> for me to pursue, and therefore I had little passion for it.</p><p>Maybe a third of the material I find dubious or inaccurate, but the rest has provided me with some decent working hypotheses. If there&#039;s something wrong with a particular concept in the Ra Material, then I would like to understand both the flaw and its superior alternative, otherwise for me it stands. </p><p>As for Cosmic Awareness, I enjoy its fearless exploration of dark subjects without being apocalyptic or alarmist, but the channeled answers can be quite hit-or-miss at times. If anyone&#039;s interested, download a <a href="http://lunahelia.com/file_download/12">zip file of 93-95 CA sessions</a> and a PDF of scanned <a href="http://lunahelia.com/file_download/13">Cosmic Awareness Newsletters</a>.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (montalk)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 02:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=45007#p45007</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>i do exactly what lyra does when i read RA.&nbsp; i agree, i go all over the place and cant focus as well as usual.&nbsp; i think its the syntax too.&nbsp; i like CA better=Cosmic Awareness.&nbsp; theyre two definitely different sources for sure.&nbsp; i should thank too, however it is/was that posts some new material from a website that still gets transmissions every now and again on here.&nbsp; so---thanks to whomever that is.&nbsp; belatedly but appreciated.</p><p>druid--i agree too with what u just posted above.&nbsp; yep.&nbsp; i say lets get this show on the road.&nbsp; sick of waiting and waiting all the damn time.&nbsp; oh well.&nbsp; when the shit hits the fan, i will probably complain.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 01:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=45000#p45000</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>As a response to Barefoot Doc&#039;s post, <br />I would say that a cult is exactly the opposite of what is truly needed for the future. What is needed is a community of independent individuals linking themselves to each other in order to achieve a new level of understanding, to make a step further towards the STO (that is the goal of our mutual striving). It is called in Revelation the Church of Philadelphia. Those siritual groups that will form themselves will be a tiny minority of pure STO individuals (or STO candidates) and they will be the tiny protion that will be saved from the War of All Against All, thus they will form the seed of the next civilisation. Without those STO candidates linking themselves to each other in service to a greate good, all civilisation and humanity shall perish... We are either standing at the grave of civilisation or at a new beginning, it depends not only on your point of view but also on your STO or STS soul orientation.&nbsp; I use Ra and Cs terms just to be understood. I am independent from their views. I prefer those of Steiner, who is not a medium but a scientist, wiseman and seer. A truly exceptional individual. We canot say that much of medium; mediums have taken the unconscious way, they want knowledge without changing themselves. their knowledge comes from the subconscious realms, which is open to the underworld, or subnature, and all its deceptive denizens.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 19:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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