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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Knitting and Crocheting....great skills if the world falls apart!  :D]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Came across the article below and instantly recalled this thread, so had to post it here <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/lol.png" width="15" height="15" alt="lol" /> (please feel free to move if it&#039;s best elsewhere):<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>News in Science wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p><a href="http://abc.net.au/science/news/stories/2007/1834370.htm">link to article</a></p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://sowelu.seibernet.com/lorenzmanifoldB260107.jpeg" alt="http://sowelu.seibernet.com/lorenzmanifoldB260107.jpeg" /></span><br />This crocheted representation of a <br />mathematical equation may one day <br />allow researchers to make better <br />weather predictions <br />(Image: University of Bristol)</p><br /><p><strong>Mathematician turns chaos into crochet</strong><br />Anna Salleh<br />ABC Science Online<br />Monday, 29 January 2007</p> <br /><p>Crochet is helping researchers to better understand mathematical equations designed to make sense of chaotic weather patterns.</p><p>Dr Hinke Osinga, a mathematician from the <a href="http://www.bristol.ac.uk/">University of Bristol</a>, will discuss her work at the <a href="http://www.anziam07.murdoch.edu.au/">Australian and New Zealand Industrial and Applied Mathematics</a> meeting in Fremantle this week.</p><p>Osinga is working on the Lorenz equations, which are used to model the difficult-to-predict system we know as the weather.</p><p>In these equations, small changes in initial conditions have a big effect on the long-term behaviour of the system.</p><p>This is the maths behind the idea that a butterfly flapping its wings in one part of the world affects the weather in another.</p><p>What makes weather prediction difficult is being precise enough when defining these initial conditions.</p><p>Osinga and colleague Professor Bernd Krauskopf have been working on visualising the Lorenz equations, which is how Osinga ended up with a crochet model.</p><p>Part of modelling the weather is predicting how air particles behave. And the researchers liken air particles in turbulent weather to leaves dropped upstream of a rock in a turbulent river.</p><p>It&#039;s difficult to predict where the leaves will flow in relation to the rock, says Osinga.</p><p>The Lorenz equations simplify such a system to predict the path of these leaves.</p><p>But the equations are limited because they are dynamic. You have to wait and see what happens over time to see what path the leaves take, says Osinga.</p><p>She and Krauskopf decided to try and get a static picture of what happens in such a system.</p><p>They took a particular set of solutions to the equations that modelled, in the river analogy, the &#039;middle path&#039; in which leaves head straight for the rock and stick to it.</p><p>They modelled this on a computer and found it gave a unique complex curved shape, they called the &#039;Lorenz manifold&#039;, that centred on one point.</p><p>&quot;On the top part, the geometry is incredibly complex where you have a helical rotation going up and you have a spiralling rotation going in one of the opposite directions,&quot; Osinga says.</p><p>&quot;I realised the way that we computed the surface naturally translated into crochet instructions,&quot; she says.</p><p>&quot;When I saw that, I just had to try. It was too good for words really that you could actually make one.&quot;</p><p>Osinga, the daughter of a handicrafts teacher, spent 85 hours crocheting a 3D model that she says really put things in perspective.</p><p>For a start, she says the model gave her an idea of the size of chaotic systems in real life.</p><p>And reducing a system of chaotic behaviour into a unique shape also gave Osinga a better understanding of the Lorenz equations themselves.</p><p>&quot;Here we have an instant image and it tells us quite a lot,&quot; she says.</p><p>She says the crocheted 3D model could tells us what kind of weather patterns the Lorenz equations are best at predicting.</p><p>Apart from that, though, the crocheted Lorenz manifold is a fascinating thing in itself, says Osinga.</p><p>&quot;It has absolute artistic value. I get lots of comments from artists who&#039;ve found out about this that are totally smitten by the shape,&quot; she says.</p></blockquote></div></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Knitting and Crocheting....great skills if the world falls apart!  :D]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for starting this thread, Lyra!&nbsp; My best friend crochets and would like to learn knitting as well. I just bought her a book on how to spin your own yarn. We are heavily contemplating moving to a remote area where we will need to be totally self-sustaining and this is right up our alley.&nbsp; </p><p>Lono, thank you so much for the grocery bag link.&nbsp; That is so cool:)&nbsp; I have actually been thinking about what to do with all these frigging grocery bags that the recycling center won&#039;t take. I was thinking of using them for braiding rugs. Now I know how to attach them to each other!!</p><p>Thank you everyone:P</p><p>P.S. Lyra, that last link doesn&#039;t work, hon. (At least not for me!)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Seeking the Truth]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-12-16T17:30:14Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>For anybody out there who&#039;s interested in knitting and needs a little help, there&#039;s this great site worth passing along called Knitting Help:</p><p><a href="http://www.knittinghelp.com/">http://www.knittinghelp.com/</a></p><p>Free how-to videos!!!!&nbsp; Woohoo!&nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" />&nbsp; &nbsp;Lots of how-to video clips, and if you really like them you can buy the CD that contains all the videos found on the website, and more.&nbsp; I just bought the CD because it has a full 40 minute how to knit a sock video.&nbsp; (the website only contains an 8 minute partial video clip.)&nbsp; She takes you through knitting a sock from start to finish, so, that&#039;s awesome.&nbsp; </p><p>The site also has a forum where people ask questions and get help and share tips.&nbsp; Really cool site, that&#039;s all I can say!&nbsp; &nbsp;Tons of useful stuff to be found....</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lyra]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-12-12T21:52:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Knitting and Crocheting....great skills if the world falls apart!  :D]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Pinkrlyq wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I know you said you weren&#039;t fishing for compliments, but I&#039;m gonna give you one anyways! <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" />&nbsp; Your scarf is looking <em>really cute</em>!!&nbsp; I love the colors, too!!</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks!&nbsp; </p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Pinkrlyq wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;m kinda disappointed in myself because I was running some errands today, and I kept repeating to myself.. &quot;gonna stop at HobbyLobby and pick up some knitting stuff... gonna stop at HobbyLobby...&quot; (HobbyLobby&#039;s a really cool and huge craft store)...</p></blockquote></div><p>That&#039;s awesome that you&#039;re going to get back into doing crafty things!&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />&nbsp; Knitting and crocheting especially are very relaxing.&nbsp; It&#039;s like being in a hypnotic trance or something forming the stitches.&nbsp; And making stuff is always a cool thing.&nbsp; </p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Pinkrlyq wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>and you guessed it... I forgot.&nbsp; Actually, not forgot really, but was totally distracted by this freaky, <em>freaky</em> guy that started talking to me for no reason as I was leaving the bank.... Him:&nbsp; &quot;You know Glade?&quot;&nbsp; Me: &quot;Huh?... &quot; Him: &quot;Glade, the air freshener...&quot;&nbsp; Me: &quot;uh-huh&quot;&nbsp; Him: &quot;You know they make this stuff you sprinkle on the carpets to make it smell good&quot;&nbsp; Me: &quot;uuh....&quot;&nbsp; Him: &quot;You think they use that stuff here, on these carpets at the bank?&nbsp; Y&#039;know the Glade?&nbsp; I think they do.&quot;&nbsp; Me: &quot;hmm... coud be... I&#039;ve gotta go&quot;&nbsp; And he kept talking to me as I hurried up to my car... Then I saw him at another store as I was leaving... He was carrying a red gas can into a grocery store!!&nbsp; I was so freaked out, I just got in my car and drove home!&nbsp; &nbsp;Pathetic, I know... Now I&#039;m here at home, feeling stupid and cursing myself for forgetting to go to HobbyLobby!!&nbsp; Grr! <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/roll.png" width="15" height="15" alt="roll" />&nbsp; I&#039;ll have to go sometime next week.&nbsp; (and remember to remove those freak magnets from my pockets next time!)</p></blockquote></div><p>That&#039;s funny.&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" />&nbsp; I used to get those types too, but not anymore it seems, luckily.&nbsp; I must have run out of magnets.&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lyra]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-30T01:15:09Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Knitting and Crocheting....great skills if the world falls apart!  :D]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I know you said you weren&#039;t fishing for compliments, but I&#039;m gonna give you one anyways! <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" />&nbsp; Your scarf is looking <em>really cute</em>!!&nbsp; I love the colors, too!!</p><p>I&#039;m kinda disappointed in myself because I was running some errands today, and I kept repeating to myself.. &quot;gonna stop at HobbyLobby and pick up some knitting stuff... gonna stop at HobbyLobby...&quot; (HobbyLobby&#039;s a really cool and huge craft store)... and you guessed it... I forgot.&nbsp; Actually, not forgot really, but was totally distracted by this freaky, <em>freaky</em> guy that started talking to me for no reason as I was leaving the bank.... Him:&nbsp; &quot;You know Glade?&quot;&nbsp; Me: &quot;Huh?... &quot; Him: &quot;Glade, the air freshener...&quot;&nbsp; Me: &quot;uh-huh&quot;&nbsp; Him: &quot;You know they make this stuff you sprinkle on the carpets to make it smell good&quot;&nbsp; Me: &quot;uuh....&quot;&nbsp; Him: &quot;You think they use that stuff here, on these carpets at the bank?&nbsp; Y&#039;know the Glade?&nbsp; I think they do.&quot;&nbsp; Me: &quot;hmm... coud be... I&#039;ve gotta go&quot;&nbsp; And he kept talking to me as I hurried up to my car... Then I saw him at another store as I was leaving... He was carrying a red gas can into a grocery store!!&nbsp; I was so freaked out, I just got in my car and drove home!&nbsp; &nbsp;Pathetic, I know... Now I&#039;m here at home, feeling stupid and cursing myself for forgetting to go to HobbyLobby!!&nbsp; Grr! <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/roll.png" width="15" height="15" alt="roll" />&nbsp; I&#039;ll have to go sometime next week.&nbsp; (and remember to remove those freak magnets from my pockets next time!)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Pinkrlyq]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-29T20:34:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Knitting and Crocheting....great skills if the world falls apart!  :D]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So this is a pic taken tonight of the first knitting project I&#039;m undertaking.&nbsp; It&#039;s a scarf, or shaping up to be one anyway.&nbsp; I wasn&#039;t even going to do a scarf, but then I realized it&#039;s like the knitting right of passage or something.&nbsp; You can&#039;t knit and never have made a scarf!&nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" />&nbsp; I&#039;m using Artyarns brand Supermerino wool, hand painted.&nbsp; It&#039;s a really neat autumn-y shade of red-orange, purple and tan, and this is a basket weave style pattern.&nbsp; Like all knitting it&#039;s just using the two types of stitches - knit and purl.&nbsp; I&#039;m not posting it to fish for compliments or anything, but rather to show anybody who&#039;s interested that I only just started learning, and if I&#039;m already able to do this after only two classes, then anybody can do it!&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" />&nbsp; Seriously!&nbsp; &nbsp;Not that it&#039;s this big impressive and complicated project though, but still, it&#039;s a good start for a beginner and anybody can do it.&nbsp; &nbsp; </p><p>Soon, I will conquer socks.&nbsp; There will be no stopping me at that point!&nbsp; haha</p><br /><br /><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.in2worlds.net/images/111.jpg" alt="http://www.in2worlds.net/images/111.jpg" /></span></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lyra]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-29T04:24:55Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Knitting and Crocheting....great skills if the world falls apart!  :D]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Those grocery bag sandals are crazy!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Once & Future]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-21T01:11:23Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Knitting and Crocheting....great skills if the world falls apart!  :D]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m loving this thread!&nbsp; Great idea, Lyra!!:D&nbsp; You&#039;ve inspired me to rekindle my crafty ways <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />&nbsp; My mom used to sew and crochet, and she taught me how to sew when I was 9, and I used to be totally into all sorts of crafts when I was younger.&nbsp; I sewed many of my own clothes in highschool just because it was fun.&nbsp; I used to make those wide, patterned <a href="http://parentingteens.about.com/od/activitiesorteens/ss/friendship1.htm">friendship bracelets</a> out of embroidery floss, too.&nbsp; I even got into making jewelry out of those teeny, tiny beads, as well!&nbsp; But I never learned how to knit, and as I got older and other responsibilites took most of my time, I eventually pulled away from doing crafty things.&nbsp; Now, though, it&#039;d be a perfect time to get back into it and learn something new!&nbsp; </p><p>You&#039;re so right about all the new types of beautiful yarn out there now-a-days, Lyra!&nbsp; &quot;This isn&#039;t your Grandma&#039;s yarn, kids!&quot; hehe&nbsp; Some of it feels like cashmere!!&nbsp; I&#039;d <em>loooooove</em> to make some pretty sweaters and fun little winter berets with matching scarfs! </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Lono wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I found this link to a craft board where someone has actually crocheted sandles from grocery bags!&nbsp; There is a link to how to make grocery bag yarn:</p><p><a href="http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=87737.0">http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=87737.0</a></p><p>They actually look rather cool!</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks for finding that link, Lono!! <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" />&nbsp; What fun!!&nbsp; And what a GREAT idea!!&nbsp; Never thought about using the plastic grocery bags, and those sandals are too cute!&nbsp; I can see where the soles might be a little bit of a problem.... I&#039;m glad they discussed that in the post and gave some good ideas about how to reinforce the bottoms. <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-09-20T18:35:20Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Knitting and Crocheting....great skills if the world falls apart!  :D]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I found this link to a craft board where someone has actually crocheted sandles from grocery bags!&nbsp; There is a link to how to make grocery bag yarn:</p><p><a href="http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=87737.0">http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=87737.0</a></p><p>They actually look rather cool!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Lono]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-20T16:50:12Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Knitting and Crocheting....great skills if the world falls apart!  :D]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>A few minutes after reading a blog post about winter knitting projects (<a href="http://16sparrows.com/blog/2006/09/whistling-on-corner.html#links">http://16sparrows.com/blog/2006/09/whis … html#links</a>), and charities that need knitting support, I flipped over to NR and read your post, Lyra! I&#039;ve been crocheting for a few years, but just started learning to knit and sew. In fact, last week I sewed my first handbag - out of old concert T-shirts!</p><p>BTW, I really DO think the whole DIY craft movement is a natural precursor to the shift that&#039;s coming - a lot of people, especially young progressive people, may not be talking about the the transition (the way NR folks do), but on some level, they&#039;re tuned in. The indie/DIY movement is huge and growing on so many levels and it&#039;s heartening to see so many people naturally gravitating toward non-corporate, localized production of goods. (There&#039;s even a documentary being made about the indie craft movement: <a href="http://indiecraftdocumentary.blogspot.com">http://indiecraftdocumentary.blogspot.com</a>)</p><p>Here are a few knitting and craft blogs worth checking out for cool ideas:</p><p><a href="http://woollywormhead.blogspot.com">http://woollywormhead.blogspot.com</a><br /><a href="http://whipup.net">http://whipup.net</a><br /><a href="http://goshdarnknit.blogspot.com">http://goshdarnknit.blogspot.com</a><br /><a href="http://colorguardblog.blogs.com/knitblog">http://colorguardblog.blogs.com/knitblog</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Once & Future]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-19T01:39:11Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Knitting and Crocheting....great skills if the world falls apart!  :D]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Lono wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Lyra, since you&#039;re trying both crocheting and knitting, which one do you find to be easier?&nbsp; I&#039;ve never tried knitting-- like you, I assumed it was difficult.&nbsp; It seems that knitting might offer more versatility.</p></blockquote></div><p>So far they&#039;re actually pretty much even with each other.&nbsp; Neither one is harder than the other.&nbsp; Both involve manipulating yarn and needles/hooks, maintaining tension and gauge.&nbsp; But overall I&#039;d say from the looks of it, it seems that maybe crocheting is going to be the more convoluted of the two, only because there are just SO many types of crocheting stitches.&nbsp; In fact, there was a book at Barnes and Noble that was basically an encyclopedia of fancy crochet stitches....over <strong>300</strong> of them!!!&nbsp; &nbsp;That&#039;s because you&#039;re just dealing with loops...and there are infinite ways to style stitches with loops, and you can loop multiple stitches into stitches, connect them up to other stitches, forward and backward, this way and that.&nbsp; It can get pretty crazy!&nbsp; Whereas with knitting, there are only two main stitches:&nbsp; the knit stitch, and the purl stitch.&nbsp; Those two, worked together, create everything that is done in knitting, from ribbing, to the flat stockinette stitch used in socks, among other things, and everything in between.&nbsp; But yeah, with knitting you only learn two stitches, that&#039;s all there is.&nbsp; Let&#039;s just put it this way..........if you were able to crochet an afghan, then knitting will be a piece of cake for you!&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>For making sweaters, I would totally use knitting, not crocheting.&nbsp; The stitches are neater and tidier, flatter, and making compact stitches with knitting moves a lot faster than with crocheting.&nbsp; Crocheting really seems best for large afghans for instance, because afghans don&#039;t need to be a solid sheet of stitches, as well as funky hats/caps, and lacy tops and dresses made of thin thread.&nbsp; &nbsp;Crochet seems best suited for pretty, stylish fun things, whereas knitting is for practical things like socks and sweaters. </p><p>And that reminds me........my goal is to learn how to knit socks.&nbsp; !&nbsp; &nbsp;When I saw that it involves using FOUR needles, I was like &quot;eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehehehehe....!!!!!!!&nbsp; I&#039;m so there!!!&quot; (rubbing hands together in giddy mania)&nbsp; &nbsp;The more ridiculous the challenge, the more I want to take it on. &quot;I have aaaaaaaall winter......bring it on!&quot;&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lyra]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-18T23:23:56Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Knitting and Crocheting....great skills if the world falls apart!  :D]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Lyra, since you&#039;re trying both crocheting and knitting, which one do you find to be easier?&nbsp; I&#039;ve never tried knitting-- like you, I assumed it was difficult.&nbsp; It seems that knitting might offer more versatility.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Lono]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-18T22:50:55Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Knitting and Crocheting....great skills if the world falls apart!  :D]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Pictus wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I see Lyra creating a “shirt&quot;&nbsp; for the cat, salmon color <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p><img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /> <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" />&nbsp; That&#039;s awesome, it made me laugh out loud!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lyra]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-18T20:08:22Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Knitting and Crocheting....great skills if the world falls apart!  :D]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>This is my mommy new hobby she is doing many beautiful things.<br />I see Lyra creating a “shirt&quot;&nbsp; for the cat, salmon color <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p><br /><p>I do not know if it is good, but here an e-book about Felted Knits<br /><a href="http://rapidshare.de/files/22354140/felted_knits.part1.rar">http://rapidshare.de/files/22354140/fel … .part1.rar</a><br /><a href="http://rapidshare.de/files/22354274/felted_knits.part2.rar">http://rapidshare.de/files/22354274/fel … .part2.rar</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Pictus]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-09-18T20:02:16Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Knitting and Crocheting....great skills if the world falls apart!  :D]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Avalokita wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I reckon that the reason for the knitting revival, is that modern clothes are all mass produced in Chinese and East Asian sweatshops. The workers have no passion for their work. Everything you buy can be bought and worn by someone else, even the rich designer stuff. It kind of makes people feel like cogs in a machine. But handmade clothes and things have soul, there&#039;s real passion in the work and each piece is unique, just like the person wearing it. Homemade clothes would have good energy.</p></blockquote></div><p>Definitely.&nbsp; !&nbsp; Also, crocheting (and embroidery stiching, another interesting craft) gives a piece of clothing a really unique, pretty look. (if it&#039;s done right, with thin yarn using nice lacy patterns.)&nbsp; &nbsp;I&#039;m tired of the soulless boring clothes that we see everywhere.&nbsp; Anytime I&#039;ve come across something unique and unusual for sale in a mainstream store involving crocheting or embroidery, I&#039;ve typically snagged it up and bought it.&nbsp; Just had to have it.&nbsp; That&#039;s my kind of clothes!&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />&nbsp; That burgundy colored crochet dress I mentioned in my opening post came from Sears of all places, and was a shocker to find hanging on the rack.&nbsp; I was like &quot;!!!!!!&quot;&nbsp; when I pulled out the hanger and realized what I was looking at.&nbsp; Didn&#039;t care how much it cost, bought it right then and there.&nbsp; Another time I was at Wal*Mart of all places, needing to find a button down white shirt for work, and came across a unique white shirt, fitted for the female body, which incorporated really nice white embroidery stitching design work.&nbsp; Just a really unusual thing to see for sale at a Wal*Mart.&nbsp; Snagged it up....bought two in fact, to have an additional back up.&nbsp; </p><p>Boo the soulless boring clothes!&nbsp; Boo!&nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Lono wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Years ago I took up crocheting.&nbsp; I made a relatively fancy afghan for my mom and a crocheted bear for a friend&#039;s baby.&nbsp; I also did the obligatory potholders when I was just learning.&nbsp; For some reason I got out of it, but I really enjoyed it.&nbsp; Buying the yarns was so much fun!&nbsp; It&#039;s an especially great hobby in winter.</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;m just glad I figured out what to do with myself for this upcoming winter, so yeah, I hear that!&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" />&nbsp; Before getting into this I was seriously worried about what I was supposed to do with myself.&nbsp; &nbsp;I had NOTHING lined up.&nbsp; Website.....done.&nbsp; Articles....all done, none currently in the works.&nbsp; Book....done.&nbsp; What&#039;s left to do??&nbsp; ??&nbsp; &nbsp;??!!!!&nbsp; &nbsp;Now, I know!</p><br /><p>If anybody&#039;s considering trying this out, or brushing up on the basic skills they already have, then I have to sort of sheepishly recommend the book I found which was the best one that I came across.&nbsp; After sitting on the floor at Barnes and Nobles in the Knitting &amp; Crocheting section for literally, hours, over a two day span, cross comparing all the directions in every single crochet how-to book they had, I settled on........ Crocheting for Dummies. Yes, I know, believe it or not.&nbsp; !&nbsp; &nbsp;In fact it was the LAST BOOK I LOOKED AT for that reason!&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" />&nbsp; &nbsp;I checked out all the hip books first and the ones with big glossy pictures, and then finally after all that was said and done I pulled down the yellow and black Crocheting for Dummies, and discovered that it was by far, the most thorough and complete and easy to understand book out of the bunch.&nbsp; </p><br /><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.pacificwoolandfiber.com/images/Books/Crocheting%20for%20Dummies.jpg" alt="http://www.pacificwoolandfiber.com/images/Books/Crocheting%20for%20Dummies.jpg" /></span></p><br /><p>The thing I noticed about these how-to books is that every book leaves something out.&nbsp; And they don&#039;t always leave the same things out.&nbsp; For instance, one book will have some of the same stuff the other book has, but then is missing some things...and then has stuff the other book didn&#039;t even mention.&nbsp; But trying to find one book that covers ALL bases in a complete and thorough, step-by-step way without leaving anything out or glossing over stuff was impossible....except for the Dummies book.&nbsp; So yeah, I have to say, this was definitely the best book by far.&nbsp; My criteria for purchasing it also involved being able to understand the directions while still at the book store.&nbsp; If I can&#039;t understand what the book is saying while I&#039;m at B&amp;N, then it&#039;s not going to get any better when I&#039;m at home, with needle or hook in hand!&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" />&nbsp; Because that&#039;s another big problem with learning knitting and crocheting through a book - it&#039;s hard to figure out what they&#039;re trying to say a lot of the time, and the pictures are usually REALLY bad.&nbsp; They don&#039;t match up at all to what it is they seem to be talking about.&nbsp; </p><p>Anyway, that&#039;s my adventures and recommendations in crocheting and knitting.&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-09-18T19:31:30Z</updated>
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