I don't know, it just seems to me that may have been what was going on...maybe when they take the shape of a close family member it's some way of giving a sign of some sort to those involved, a way of showing positive intent to help? I'm just tossing out ideas...although I feel it can't be coincidence that the nurse who showed up for your grandmother looked identical to you...something's going on, that's for sure!

Well, whatever happened in my grandmother's room while the look-a-like was there nobody'll know because there was no one else in the room. And unless whatever happened actually saved her life a "miracle" did not occur, my grandma had permanent and severe damage. She's now an invalid in a nursing home.

I made a joke in my earlier post, but as far as catching one of your tossed out ideas I did have a further thought a little later this morning when I was more awake and a little less loopy .

My mother comes from a large family, 10 kids. I have 21 first cousins. Minus my mother and aunt, and including me, that leaves 30 familiar and friendly family faces to chose from... why me? There's only one thing that seperates me from these 29 others... I'm an alternative healer/energy worker, I have the aptitude and potential for that kind of work. If my cousin Shelia was the healer and I was an office manager, I bet you it's her likeness that would've come sauntering down the hall, and not mine. Ya know what I mean?

EDIT--Oh! I almost did it again! I've been meaning to tell y'all that Richard Bach's One is an exquiste tale about parallel timelines, alter dimensions. I suggest every person have had read this book, especially if you're having a hard time wrapping your noodle about the idea of parallel timelines. One, like all of Richard Bach's books, is gently thought provoking.

Hmmm... well, I hadn't considered the angel angle lyra... makes sense though given the conditions as you've pointed out.

And now I'm laughing because... imagine that! An angel fashioning themself after my likeness... boy-oh-boy, now that must've been a stretch!!!

I don't know, it just seems to me that may have been what was going on...maybe when they take the shape of a close family member it's some way of giving a sign of some sort to those involved, a way of showing positive intent to help?   I'm just tossing out ideas...although I feel it can't be coincidence that the nurse who showed up for your grandmother looked identical to you...something's going on, that's for sure!

And now I'm laughing because... imagine that! An angel fashioning themself after my likeness... boy-oh-boy, now that must've been a stretch!!!

I think I've told this story before on NR, but I don't remember where... at least it wasn't on this thread. Anyway, a number of years ago my grandmother had a major stroke. My aunt and mother were outside of her room while doctors were assessing her condition. My aunt said she looked down the hall and told my mom to look too, that I was walking down the hall. This woman introduced herself to them as my grandma's Occupational Therapist, my mother said they were just so shocked at how much she looked like me. She said the therapist went in the room for a few moments, came back out, and they never saw her again.

Can't possibly be any bad judgement coming from my close family members.... it really does happen lyra. When I first heard about this story I thought about dopplegangers, but maybe dopplegangers are more fully explained through alternative timelines intersecting.

Hi Auendove,

Hmmm...I have a story like this.  Actually, it's more like my mom had a story like this.  I was too young to remember most of it.   But when I was 1 1/2 years old I caught meningitis and spent almost a month in the hospital.  Came within a day of dying because it went for so long before being caught.  My mom was just a kid really when it happened, only 23, very scared and freaking out.   She was in the hospital alone, sitting in a chair in the hallway waiting for my dad to get there.   Lots of anxiety, wishing her grandparents were there.  (they raised her when she was a kid.)   Right then she looks up and sees an old couple coming down the hall that were the spitting image of her grandparents, my (now deceased) Nanny and Poppy.  Nanny was short and stout with white hair, Poppy tall with thin white hair.   She actually thought it was them, it was a very confusing moment.  It wasn't them, but they came down the hall and of all things they stopped to say hello to my mom.   They sat on either side of her and engaged her in conversation, asking her why she was there, and offering up words of comfort.   Up close there were differences in appearance to Nanny and Poppy...but enough similarities that it was uncanny, including their heights and weights.  They told her everything was going to be okay, then got up to go after a bit.  And that was that.  She was left feeling much more calm, as if she had just spoken with the real Nanny and Poppy.

And as if that weren't enough, one of the nurses that was assigned to me was the spitting image of her mom, my grandmother.  So much so that even *I* thought it was my grandma, and in my sick delirious state I reached up for her and said "grandma!...." happy to recognize a familiar face.  I remember that, it's really weird.   I remember laying in that crib and looking up and seeing her smiling down at me.  I can still remember how excited and comforted I was when I saw her, and I remember her shaking her head, smiling, telling me she wasn't my grandma.   crazy.  So even though my mom wasn't able to have her mom and grandparents with her during all of that, she had "substitute dopplegangers" filling in.      

I only mention this because your story was similar in that it involved a hospital setting and somebody who was the spitting image of a family member.  (in this case....you!)   I think rather than parallel timelines this could be something else going on.   Sickness and hospitals and death create a lot of interesting phenomenon, and I think one of them could be angels, or whatever we choose to call them, coming in and helping out.  Possibly taking the form of a familiar loved one to ease anxiety.

Yeah, but what if something like this happens and it's your mother and aunt telling you they met someone who looked just like me...

Sssppffhhh... I meant "just like you"

DOH!

... someone I work with just recently, like last week, saw a girl here in the town where we live who, he claims, looks JUST like me.  So much so that he assumed it was my sister.  I told him no, I don't have a sister.  Then I just dismissed him entirely and laughed about it, but he kept swearing she looked JUST like me.  I asked, "Yeah, but with RED HAIR??  Come on!"  (my hair's dyed red now.)   He said "Yes!!  Red hair and everything!!"  And I said, "And skinny?? Like me??"   He said "Yes!!  I'm telling you, she looks just like you, I would swear you're sisters!!"  He was so excited about this, like now that he found out we weren't related he just couldn't believe it.

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Either he's blind, or I have a twin.   I don't know if this relates to parallel timelines, or it's just something else going on.  Like, people being blind and bad judges of what people look alike.

Yeah, but what if something like this happens and it's your mother and aunt telling you they met someone who looked just like me... well over one thousand miles away from where I was?

I think I've told this story before on NR, but I don't remember where... at least it wasn't on this thread. Anyway, a number of years ago my grandmother had a major stroke. My aunt and mother were outside of her room while doctors were assessing her condition. My aunt said she looked down the hall and told my mom to look too, that I was walking down the hall. This woman introduced herself to them as my grandma's Occupational Therapist, my mother said they were just so shocked at how much she looked like me. She said the therapist went in the room for a few moments, came back out, and they never saw her again.

Can't possibly be any bad judgement coming from my close family members.... it really does happen lyra. When I first heard about this story I thought about dopplegangers, but maybe dopplegangers are more fully explained through alternative timelines intersecting.

It was then, and is now, kinda weird to think there's someone walking around out there that looks so much like me that it would throw my mother and aunt for a loop!

I still don't think that the creation of timelines is a mechanical function of every decision we could possibly make.  I think they have to be created intentionally, by going back in time along our own timeline or by higher dimensional interference.  Would dogs create new timelines based on whether or not they actually fetch the bone?  Making informed choices would result in a better individual timeline, but there would be no new information that would result in a different, separate timeline.  And how would these timelines merge then? 

I don't know any of this for certain.  I am just trying to get my brain around this concept.  And it just seems more logical that they would have to be deliberately created as a function of consciousness which begins to expand beyond the present individual timeline.  Then merged through a further development of conscious awareness. 

Kathy

I was walking around a world very much like Earth (it was Earth) but something was different.  The friend I was with brought my attention to a news paper... It was dated 1980 but was one I didn't recognise.  I looked on the back page to see the sports news - it was all 'wrong'.  Teams I had never heard of - sports I was unsure of.  What was going on???  I looked back at the front page and there was an article about hitler - and it called him "the great planner"  My friend told me that this was a different dimension! A reality in which Hitler had won the war!  Strangely enough everybody seemed content. I ran up to somebody and asked them some questions - they too referred to Hitler as "the great planner" and it was very evident that I was indeed that I was in a different reality!   I shouted "I am in a different dimension!" and people looked at me as if I was crazy.  I was on a main street, there were many people going about their lives.  I asked people if they were happy and they said yes.  I noticed soldiers in grey uniforms dotted around the streets.  The other thing that caught my attention was the technology - although I can't recall what I saw exactly, my feelings at the time were "wow, these guys are really technically advanced"

The scene changed and I was in front of hitler!  He was old and looked...friendly.  I talked to him about my predicament (being in the wrong universe) and he said that he could help me get back to my dimension - because they had built a device/portal on the moon! 

So then I tried to fly up to the moon... Except I had to first cross a lake.  I considered that no problem (I am getting good at flying) but this time there was a problem!  The lake was filled with crocodiles... And no matter how high I flew they kept getting bigger, and snapping at my ankles.  I aborted the attempt to the moon, and landed back on some safe ground - annoyed.

Then I woke up!!!!

What a weird dream.
I have a lot of "being in different Earth dimension" dreams.  In one I was walking around a super market noting down all the different makes of food that I had never heard of!

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ok, now my personal opinion regarding alternative selves:

I believe that our "real" being is like a tree, a tree with infinite amounts of branches and sub branches.   
In our current state we seem to be a single leaf on that tree, un aware of all the other leaves and all the different branches.   

But we are NOT the individual leaves - we are the WHOLE tree, we are the life force that runs throughout every part of the tree. 

Every choice we make and every one we don’t EXISTS as a branch on this tree, complete with it’s own sub-branches & different adventures.   Just like all the leaves co-exist on the tree at the same time.   ALL EXISTS, AT ALL TIMES.

Yet are these other ‘non-chosen’ realities ALIVE like we are?  Are they being ‘experienced’ like we are experience our own leaf right now?  After a long amount of pondering, I believe the answer is YES.  (yet I need to think about this some more) 

I am going to stop writing now and go and do some more pondering. I know I am still missing some important details. It’s a subject that gets really complex really fast!   

I will leave with my final conclusions (so far).

ALL IS ONE
YOU PEOPLE READING THIS ARE ALTERNATIVE SELVES OF ME!   (and vice versa of course)

How can one person prove to another that he is conscious? Is there ANY way to prove this?  I think the only way is when the one person remembers, and experiences that there is no separation – that he IS both people...   Yet something is separating me and you, and I feel trapped in “me”  so what do I need to do to break that barrier? Knowledge? awareness?  A stint in 5th Dimension?  Aghhh!  Ok, rambling now.

Last words from the C’s

Q: (L) You are not, by any chance, one of those weird ant or
preying mantis beings are you?
A: Yes and no.
Q: (T) You are just another part of ourselves? You, us, the
Lizards, the ants, the grays, the trees...
A: We are your whole self as you/we are in 6th density.
Q: (T) So, what we are working to become is You? You are
us?
A: Yes.

Thanks for making me think...

Cheers
DALE

Lyra, I find it extremely interesting that you mentioned you are "unusual" looking.  I am too--I have only ever seen one other girl who looks remotely like me.  I also have a mixed genetic background  and do not look at all conventional.   Even my immediate family and cousins have  a more generic and conventional "mixed genetics" look--it's strange.   That's why I always found it hard to believe that there are other people who look just like me--b/c I simply do not look like other people.

Yes....same here.  !  My BROTHER looked more conventional than me.   Even though we have the same genetic mix, he came out looking VERY Irish, with pale white skin, dark brown black hair and hazel eyes, and I just look like who knows what.      I've even had someone come out and ask me one time, "What ARE you anyway??"   haha  The weirdest part is someone I work with just recently, like last week, saw a girl here in the town where we live who, he claims, looks JUST like me.  So much so that he assumed it was my sister.  I told him no, I don't have a sister.  Then I just dismissed him entirely and laughed about it, but he kept swearing she looked JUST like me.  I asked, "Yeah, but with RED HAIR??  Come on!"  (my hair's dyed red now.)   He said "Yes!!  Red hair and everything!!"  And I said, "And skinny?? Like me??"   He said "Yes!!  I'm telling you, she looks just like you, I would swear you're sisters!!"  He was so excited about this, like now that he found out we weren't related he just couldn't believe it.

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Either he's blind, or I have a twin.   I don't know if this relates to parallel timelines, or it's just something else going on.  Like, people being blind and bad judges of what people look alike.   

I haven't experienced this before, but that's pretty trippy!

Oh yes...found something tonight in my infamous handy dandy "log book" of strange phenomenon, relating to the day last year when I originally dreamt up the idea for this thread.   It was so weird that it's worth posting here:

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April 26 - 27, 2004

Me and Tom were hanging out talking after I'd experienced a de ja vu.   I mentioned that I had come up with a great idea for a thread topic when I was at lunch today, but now, I can't remember what it is!  Completely forgot it, poof, gone.   And it bothered me because I knew it was a cool idea.   So then a little while later when we were talking, he tells me that he's getting a de ja vu, which lasted for a few seconds.   I say, "Oh my god!" kind of kidding around, like, Wow!!!  Whoa!!!  Cool!   When I said that, he responded with , "Okay, now's it's over.   I know you didn't say THAT in a parallel universe."   A little humor about de ja vus being related to timeline manipulation.

But that's exactly what my thread idea was at lunch.   A thread about parallel universes and alternate timelines.   That exact phrase.  And I wouldn't have remembered it had he not had a de ja vu!  So that was a first....me and Tom getting back to back de ja vus, and his de ja vu resulting in a specific phrase that connected synchronistically to something that I had thought about earlier in the day, then forgot and was trying to remember.
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(maybe my de ja vu was something negative changing the timeline so I'd forget about writing a topic on alternate timelines, while his de ja vu was a counter attack to get me to remember it again.  haha!  too crazy....)

Okay this just came to mind. The idea of parallel universes or timelines relates to the STS hyperdimensional entities. I think being awake makes it harder for the STS hyperdimensional entities to control/manipulate us because we can not go with the flow of the matrix world. We can stop for a moment and make a critical choice that does fork our timelines away from the matrix choice or timeline which may make it harder for the STS hyperdimensional entities to keep track of us to calculate our next move so they don't know WHERE we, our SELVES are in all of these timelines.  Sorry just a thought that came to mind wanted to type it out before I forgot it.

And wow I just had a premination right before i finished that last post and it happend, guess I'll share the story something kind of small but still i saw it and it happend. Just this girl IM'd me that I havent talked to for a few months and I even guessed that not only would she IM but tell me that she would tell me she had broken up with her b/f and yup thats exactly what she told me.

lol

Looks like someone decided to offer you a bribe to keep you from elaborating on your origional train of thought! Accepted or declined, either way can/will lead to interesting times! I confess that sometimes I come into this forum and I have to read a thread at least 3-4 times because I get so distracted by other thoughts, experience sudden onsets of sleepiness, and other blocks.  lol

I think that you're completely spot-on with this, because nobody (even high level STS) can see beyond the choices that they're aware of. By a specific micro-process we run through time which is not so much non-linear as it is multi-dimensional in a quantum sense.

I'm not versed in quantum thinking or theory in a mathematical sense, but I would like to explain how I see it, so if someone has a better understanding of the areas I lack could follow with a more detailed analysis, I'd be most thankful. I could also be completely wrong, but that's why I love NR! Props to lyra & everyone for this kewl thread!

Alternate timelines and stuff definitely exists. If you can imagine time as a huge "zipper" (yes, the kind on your pants) that in between each "tick" of time exists a whole other set of time (WOW, I'm starting to remember this stuff as I'm typing it!) where events proceed in a way that WE would preceive as "backward" and each decision/choice becomes a part of a "path" as it is made. So as time goes in OUR forward, the zipper zips up, and when it's fully closed the path that remains is what actually happens, and the next tick of the cycle begins at it's full potential stage, to proceed backwards as all potentials are again eliminated, then the next, etc. Add all these things up and they distill truth from potential and comprise of what each individual calls "reality." This means that ALL possible options are present at EVERY moment, but options are narrowed once a person decides, consciously or unconsciously, to eliminate something from the potential pool. I thought I'd bring this up, because of an earlier discussion about how polarity style thinking sometimes seems to draw it's opposite instead of the desired result. What's happening is the energy is still generated, but since you're feeding the situation from the wrong direction, this is why things usually don't go as desired/planned. Also consider that one of the best types of energy that can be farmed by STS for other purposes is seething frustration. The trick isn't to wish for a negative opposite, but to find another way to direct your energy so it doesn't get funnelled away in this manner. There's a lot more, but I'm getting a caution flag.

Ever miss someone so much that you find yourself doing things that you used to do with the other person just out of habit without realizing it? That sometimes when you find yourself doing those things, if you seize the moment to call the other person, more often than not, you'll find that they were just thinking about you? Once the person is gone from your presence, all you have left is a memory, but as we progress through time we invariably change in response to the world around us, departing from the memory-image in another's mind. I think that some people are actually able to feed off of that memory-image if enough people feel the same way, and this explains a lot about OPs and why they do what they do.

I think that memory shells definitely exist, both within our individual memories, and within a greater consciousness. I've known some people whose appearance in my presence would ALWAYS be dependent on how/if I was thinking about them. From my own experience, one person in particular stands out. While she wasn't a chronic flaker, she would always lag, and would only appear in the moment that I was just about to give up on her. On top of that, she had refined her ability to feed off of me to the point that I became addicted to it. (shudders) I think that this was where I realized that the explanations of OPs was so spot on that I had to join this site. In hindsight, I now realize that when she didn't need my energy she was always ready and on time, because she would always be late when she needed an energy boost.

Thanks for the welcome and your comments.  They are very thought-provoking:)

Hi all--

I have been enjoying the forum for awhile and I decided to de-lurk to ask a question re: this very interesting topic.

Here goes --  Many times during my life I have had people say--"Haven't I met you before--you look (or seem) familiar."   I have had the above experience many times over many years.  Usually it is in a business/academic setting, for whatever that is worth.   It's as if I have a good twin or triplet out there in the world:-)

So, does this "I know you from somewhere" tie in to this parallel existence phenomenon in any way?  Any and all thoughts on this are gladly appreciated.

Hi nancy q, welcome to the forum!   Congrats on delurking! 

But yes, I've had this before.  I was going to mention it but didn't get to it.  But yeah, back in Florida I was on my lunch break picking up pizza at this place run by New Yorkers from Brooklyn, and the guy who ran the joint was trying to figure out where he knew me from.  And it wasn't to hit on me either, like tossing out a pick up line or something.   He was genuinely mystified, so sure he knew me from somewhere.   And I don't look like everybody else either, I have an unusual look due to a weird mix of genetics, so it's not like I can be easily mistaken for the average girl on the street.   I knew the guys who ran the place were from Brooklyn so when he asked me where he knew me from I seriously came *this* close to saying "On another timeline. " (new york timeline, of course)    It almost came out but I stopped myself.   He was there making food and kept glancing at me with furrowed brows, trying to work it out where he knew me from.  I didn't recognize him, but he was so sure he knew me.  It's in my opinion that if I'm in NY, I think I live/d in Brooklyn, but work/ed in Manhatten.

I've had the same thought too nancy q, that I must have a good twin or triplet out there in the world because I've gotten this before.  I figure either people aren't very good at figuring out who looks alike, or else there really are people out there in the world who look like me.   I don't know how though, because again, I don't have an average look.   It's weird.

How about this one..........the idea that it's purposely arranged that we'll continually bump into certain people, even on another timeline.    !   It almost borders on the idea of destiny.   I've met people who I've bonded with, and for me I don't bond with just anybody, so if I do, there's something going on.   And it turns out that they've either lived in other states where I've lived and /or  possibly have a parallel timeline on, and so it seems that there's a strong possibility that we could have bumped into each other on those other timelines.

I have been enjoying the forum for awhile and I decided to de-lurk to ask a question re: this very interesting topic.

Here goes --  Many times during my life I have had people say--"Haven't I met you before--you look (or seem) familiar."   I have had the above experience many times over many years.  Usually it is in a business/academic setting, for whatever that is worth.   It's as if I have a good twin or triplet out there in the world:-)

So, does this "I know you from somewhere" tie in to this parallel existence phenomenon in any way?  Any and all thoughts on this are gladly appreciated.