Noble Realms — The Machine-Planet: Our future? Darth Vader as Ahriman

Re: The Machine-Planet: Our future? Darth Vader as Ahriman

null@example.com (druid) — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 08:16:43 +0000

Lucifer wants to lull our will so that we tear ourswelves apart from the mission of the Earth and its Future. Ahriman takes hold of our thinking. When people have a dull mind because of drugs or an atavistic disposition (trance, hypnosis, etc.), ahrimanic beings take hold of our unconscious will, and their thinking become our thinking. At one level, the person becomes sensuous and intellectual. It can become worse and jupiter-beings may incarnate in him, and there he is misguided into seeing others as things, and means to an end. The demonically inspired though is much more intent on pure destruction and hatred leading to vicious murders or abuse. Lenin and Trotsky were inspired by Jupiter-men in their unconscious. their thinking waw of an alien nature, alien the earth. it comes from another world. Here Cs would talk about the predator mind. Steiner would talk about Ahriman or ahrimanic beings. The activity of the asuras is making itself more manifest and ever-increasing, so it leads to suicides, pure will to destroy, fragmentation of the self through torture techniques developped leading souls to the eighth sphere and their torturers/killers being lead to demonic possession.

Sorat is most high, but one can say, the most high of the ahrimanic order. He is Sun-Demon, rank of the Exusiai/Elohim.
Ahriman himself is lower than Sorat. Asuras are of the Archai rank, Ahriman is of the Archangel rank, and Lucifer is of the Angel. All these are fallen ones of their angelic level.

Michael opposes Sorat, but ultimately it's Christ that opposes the Beast. Michael also opposes Ahriman or Mammon.

Christ said: have no worry, for I have conquered this world. (My Kingdom is not of this world)
Ahriman is the King of this world.

Christ/God : Ahriman/Sorath

that said, it does not etll much to know what being is called by which name, and to which angelic hierarchy it belongs.

I would suggest to read this introduction to the knowledge of Evil according to anthroposophy:

http://fakeapoc.tripod.com/black_magic/ … ebsite.htm
http://fakeapoc.tripod.com/satanism/sat … ebsite.htm

But in this same epoch human beings will have to battle against attacks of the Luciferic and Ahrimanic [Satanic] powers that will be stronger than those launched in the days of Greek and Roman culture. Again in this later epoch the aim of the Luciferic and Ahrimanic powers is to alienate the souls of men from earthly life on the one hand, and on the other so to mechanize earthly life itself, to make its outer form so entirely mechanistic, that it would be impossible for the ego of man to live in the social order of the Earth. He would therefore take leave of it to enter a life apart from the Earth upon a separate planet [the Eighth Sphere]. [2]
Yet it behoves us to know that the enemy is wont to counterfeit this salutary advent of Christ [i.e. the Second Coming, which is not a physical event] with cunning fraud in order to deceive the faithful, and in the place of the Son of Man, who is looked for as coming in the majesty of his Father, to prepare the Son of Perdition with prodigies [3] and lying signs, that instead of Christ he may introduce Antichrist into the world.... [4]
Unless we mend our ways, unless our republic ceases doing what it has been mostly doing during the recent four years, we are indeed at the very edge of a chasm of ruin and despair such as has been unknown to today's globally extended European civilization since the great New Dark Age which wiped out half the parishes of Europe, and one-third of the level of its population, during the middle of the Fourteenth Century. [5]

Re: The Machine-Planet: Our future? Darth Vader as Ahriman

null@example.com (Antaeus) — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 02:05:54 +0000

According to Steiner, Francis Bacon is the reincarnation of an ahrimanic initiate of the academy of Gundishapur in Persia. (thisis the origin of the perversion of judaism, as it reveals itself in the figure of the Wandering Jew). Gundishapur developped practical sciences and abstract thought to the point it reached an ahrimanic initiation. vivisection and anatomy began there, as black magic "scientific" research. It was inspired by Ahriman and the Two-Horned Beast around the year 666. Francis Bacon (and Roger Bacon) developped experimental science. Francis Bacon was ambiguous: he had rosicrucian inspirations, but he definetly served the cause of the ahrimanisation of science and the western world, by his intellectual and scientific legacy that became positivism and the Enlightenment: the notion that Reason will develop science and heaven on earth through technology. His plan of a perfect civilisation, in pyramid shape with collection of data at the bottom, filtering, analysing, theory-making and Knowers at the Top, it a perfect image of the artificial intelligence, and was the first plan of a computer system. It also expresses Ahriman as one who sheds his light in darkness, as the Eye that See All, symbol of Illuminated ones and their pyramidal elitist vision of civilisation and humanity. As a erflection of the hierarchy of feremasons and manicheism, it is clearly a perversion of manichean gnosis into Dualism, which Ahriman ingraved in the development of modern civilisation. Francis Bacon wrote Nova Atlantis. America is Nova Atlantis. With Sorat as its god, Ahriman as messiah and materialistic neo-Taotl as religion.

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I know I should never ask a question unless I have first attempted to answer it myself. However, is it lucifer that wants our Freewill and ahriman that wants our bodies? Sorat is their tool, like the asuras, or is sorat higher than arhriman?

Re: The Machine-Planet: Our future? Darth Vader as Ahriman

null@example.com (druid) — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 00:13:26 +0000

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite? … 2FShowFull

Aug. 6, 2007
IDF to recruit Jews abroad for prestigious hi-tech course
By YAAKOV KATZ
The IDF is planning to open one of its most secret and prestigious hi-tech courses to teenage Jews from the Diaspora, in an effort to enhance its technological capabilities, The Jerusalem Post has learned.
The program, called Talpiot, is the longest course in the IDF. Its participants are chosen from a pool of highly-motivated youth who specialize in hard sciences such as physics and mathematics. The soldiers, who all become officers, undergo more than three years of training - during which time they receive a degree in both physics and mathematics - and then join the Defense Ministry's Research and Development Directorate or highly-classified units in the air force.
Following the training, Talpiot participants are obligated to sign on for an additional six years of military service, for five of which they earn high salaries.
OC Human Resources Maj.-Gen. Elazar Stern hopes to have the program up and running for Diaspora youth within six months.
The IDF plans to use the resources of the Jewish Agency and the Foreign Ministry to identify candidates for the course. The army plans to begin advertising the new program, based at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, in English on its Web site.
A high-ranking officer told the Post the decision to create the Diaspora program was made to enhance IDF technological capabilities. "We are very happy with the amount and quality of the soldiers who we are currently getting," the officer said. "But we want more."
The Diaspora Jews accepted into the program will need to acquire Israeli citizenship and to become fluent in Hebrew.
Acceptance to Talpiot - one of the IDF's most prestigious programs, alongside the IAF's pilot's course, is very difficult. The first class, established in 1979 due in part to lessons learned from the Yom Kippur War, consisted of 25 cadets. The class size was later increased to some 50. Thousands are rigorously tested in an effort to gain admission to the program.
The Talpiot program also requires a very high security clearance; prospective recruits from abroad will have to pass a stringent security check to participate.

Israelis took over the air defense of the USA mostly electronically (Miter corp. and Ptech zionist-masons) , discovered Chris Bollyn
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Bollyn-MITRE.html
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Bollyn-Ptech.html
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Bollyn-mossad-911.html
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Bollyn-Israel-NSA.html
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Bollyn-Kobi-Alexander.html

Bill Gates is Jewish. A lot of Israelis and Jews become electronic engineers/geniuses. In Judaism, 666 a the number of the Final Jugment by G*d, which can never be 'evil'. Is that ubiquitous number 666 engraved in computers by jews, or people who want us to blame jews? Mormons and delirious biblical/freemasonic atlantists believe that lost Israeli tribes went to America and taht they became Maya and Aztec civilisations. Steiner talks about the resurrection of the Taotl cult in America, which is inspired by the highest Ahrimanic being: Sorat (the Two-Horned - Binary - Beast, which number is 666). This ancient mexican satanic Taotl cult resembles what Laura Knight describes as 4DSTS-inspired ancient judaic cult: human sacrifices, God inspired wars (perpetual war "for peace" as in 1984), pyramids, etc. The Protocols have already been carried out, and their true authors aren't true Israelite jews but Ashkenazi descendents of Turc-Mongols (barbaric genocidal slaughterers) who took the judaic faith and perverted it to the max. More than half the Protocols have already been enacted! We are on the verge of that part of the Protocols were a tyrannical dictator takes the power after a terror attack.

Re: The Machine-Planet: Our future? Darth Vader as Ahriman

null@example.com (Antaeus) — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 21:51:47 +0000

This was an impressive post. Barefoot Doc complimented your efforts nicely. He should get some shoes though.

Re: The Machine-Planet: Our future? Darth Vader as Ahriman

null@example.com (Barefoot Doc) — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 16:20:18 +0000

Seeking the Truth wrote:

Wow, BF doc!! Awesome find! As I was reading this thread, the thought kept running through my mind that old Billy is Ahriman reincarnated. He's probably not, but seeing that website you just posted made me think about it again. Maybe Bill was Horus? Hmmmm.

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Druid, thanks for the information on the book. I'll be looking for it soon.

AMD have got the Horus CPU.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Horus

Re: The Machine-Planet: Our future? Darth Vader as Ahriman

null@example.com (Seeking the Truth) — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 15:23:14 +0000

Wow, BF doc!! Awesome find! As I was reading this thread, the thought kept running through my mind that old Billy is Ahriman reincarnated. He's probably not, but seeing that website you just posted made me think about it again. Maybe Bill was Horus? Hmmmm.

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Druid, thanks for the information on the book. I'll be looking for it soon.

Re: The Machine-Planet: Our future? Darth Vader as Ahriman

null@example.com (Barefoot Doc) — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 11:55:17 +0000

The EDFU temple and the chip.

from http://www.freedomdomain.com/horus.html

Re: The Machine-Planet: Our future? Darth Vader as Ahriman

null@example.com (druid) — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 10:07:28 +0000

I found it funny the Crossing of the Threshold, entering the Gates...

Technology, especially electronic, takes us "across the Threshold".

It's not Bill Gates who's in control of Microsoft... It's ahrimanic forces, it's the doppelganger. the Double at the Gates of Hell...

Re: The Machine-Planet: Our future? Darth Vader as Ahriman

null@example.com (Antaeus) — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 05:54:45 +0000

druid wrote:

Cross the Threshold...
Gates...
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I wasn't trying to be an antagonist, it is just that you only used Bill Gates as a reference and I think it is possible that some other countries might have their 'Bill Gates' examples. It is like the inventor who gets world renown for an invention, but there was three or more other scientists around the globe who were on the verge of completing the same thing.

Cross the Threshold? I don't think I have decided on the red pill or the blue pill. I'm still studying. I have registered with a site that studies Anthroposophy, but I've already committed myself to Theosophy. I don't believe a conflict exists except that Theosophy gets more of my time.

Re: The Machine-Planet: Our future? Darth Vader as Ahriman

null@example.com (druid) — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 04:48:33 +0000

Cross the Threshold...
Gates...

Re: The Machine-Planet: Our future? Darth Vader as Ahriman

null@example.com (Antaeus) — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 00:00:56 +0000

This headlong race forwards goes hand in hand with the continual struggle for the leading position in the economic world. Whoever is not fast-moving and innovative simply goes to the wall in the great capitalistic struggle for existence. It is essential to win the big race on the business-highway fought out at the leading edge of progress by the companies. In this race Gates' gigantic computer company Microsoft has so far done especially well. This is what people like Gates find most exhilarating: "My aim is above all to keep Microsoft at the very forefront by means of continuous innovation. It is a bit disconcerting to see that in the course of the further development of computer technology no enterprise has been able to maintain the leading position which it held in one period, on into the following period ... I would like to break this rule. Somewhere ahead of us lies the threshold separating the epoch of the PC from the epoch of the Highway [= the total computer network]. I would like to be among the first to cross this threshold" (The Way Ahead, 1995).
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I've read some text from another Hoppe; Hans-Herman Hoppe. I still can not see any concrete reason for the United States involving itself in WWI. It spawned so many negative events, and I don't even want to describe it. But I could, I could go on and on about how our involvement brought about so many events that we would have been better off without.

Now we have Bill Gates and the like, and we have Germany, controlling all the air traffic in Europe, Middle East, Eurasia, Northern Africa. Germany also controls security for all of the Mediterranian shipping commerce, including all the way down to the Horn of Africa. Germany controls the military of 25 nations including nuclear research and weaponry. They have a jet fighter fleet that is equal to our 250 million dollar F-22 that we decided not to make very many of. In this I am being very concise because with what I have said there is a lot that can be added. The United States has done a lot of insult and injury but seem to be introspective now and trying to be fair, generous, supportive, helpful to all the nations of the world that they deal with.

I just wanted to change the perspective a bit. You make it sound like Bill Gates is trying to create a self aware Sky-Net that will decide that humans must DIE. Heck, you travel over to Europe and they look more like technocrats than Americans do.

Just one more thing. I think democrats have caved in to faction one, and that Bush is a faction two person.

Re: The Machine-Planet: Our future? Darth Vader as Ahriman

null@example.com (druid) — Sat, 04 Aug 2007 22:08:57 +0000

The book by Francis Paul emberson is

From Gondi Shapur to Silicon Valley (1997) Etheric Dimensions Press, Glengorm Castle, Isle of Mull, Agyll, Scotland. February 1997. ISBN 2 - 904991 - 43 - 3. First Edition: 1991, Reprinted: 1996

I know someone who bought the personal copy of the author himself! Too hard to find!

The copy I own is in French.

talking about your experience with people using energy ot boost their car, I'd assume it's the energy taken from dead people stuck in electromagnetic machines (diabolical scheme of the Lodges, using polarity of geomagnetic forces in the Amrican continent: North-Soth, positive negative, acting upon man's intimate evil Twin and keeping dead people stuck in electromagnetic machines and computers). Emberson talks a lot about this in his book. You have a chapter of the book you can read for free on the forum: http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic. … 004#p48004

Re: The Machine-Planet: Our future? Darth Vader as Ahriman

null@example.com (Seeking the Truth) — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 18:07:13 +0000

Hello Druid. I'd like to say thanks for all of the work you've put into your threads. I am happy to say that I can now read AND follow Rudolf Steiner's writings! It took me a while, since I've just recently been introduced to this unreality of ours. But I've come a long way in just a short time and now Steiner's work doesn't seem so daunting.

I'd like to comment on this machine stuff. I had printed out this thread a few months back and it got buried under other information. Well, I found it the other day and just finished it last night. I had this really strange thought:

There are energy healers on another forum that I used to visit that have actually ran this energy to their dead car battery and revived it! There was not just one person or one occasion. Several of them reported being able to charge batteries and such by 'running energy' as they call it. I didn't think too much about it until I read this thread yesterday. Now I'm thinking, "What the heck???"

What are these people doing (even unknowingly)? Are they giving life to these objects (machines)? They claim that they run 'life-force' energy, so how does that work? And how would that fit in to Steiner's work? He would probably be appalled to hear of people running life force energy into machines.

Of course, reading on Emberson's material (or de Jongg), this will be normal in the years to come? Am I comprehending this correctly?

Also, what is the name of Emberson's book that you're referring to on page one? Do you have an ISBN number for it?

Thanks again!

Re: The Machine-Planet: Our future? Darth Vader as Ahriman

null@example.com (druid) — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 21:23:11 +0000

About half of this is anthroposophical stuff. The other half cannot be said to have direct relations to anthroposophy. But in my mind, they complete the anthroposophic articles I posted.

Re: The Machine-Planet: Our future? Darth Vader as Ahriman

null@example.com (Blue) — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 17:21:04 +0000

Sacre Bleu -steiner sanglant d'enfer pas encore