Not to be an attack of any sort, Starcat you have briefly nosed in on many threads, a few of mine too I think, and just left kind of a generic
"we shouldn't be thinking in this direction"

Which is fine, really the only issue I have with that is, like lyra said above,
you seem to jump around a bit, and when you comment the way you do sometimes, it comes off as somewhat less than substantive. Too brief, I wish you would explain yourself more.

As a lifelong "overthinker" I am aware of the pitfalls, not all of them of course, I am not infinetely wise.

Thought is our first line of defense, would you agree?

I have made effort to reduce "dwelling"
and increase "productive" thought.

What this comes down to, is that your own perception and experience is making judgement for others, as to how much is the right amount.

I have often considered my own "over"thinking to be a disease.
And who's to say it isn't?

Starcat I do understand at some level what you mean at times, but the language you use is difficult for me to follow at other times.

"on a higher plane"

Which is what I aspire to be. I think different individuals begin their existence at different levels of "baseline" awareness and wisdom.

Starcat, go easy on us slower learners, please.... that is really all I am asking you. And do continue, because you do have some real wisdom which many of us can and will benefit from!

                                                            J

Think like your slamming in rivets with a sledgehammer on the 101st floor of a skyscraper being built.  Precision, Balance, Concentration, Persistence, and Power.

Think densely.  Add new dimensions to all thoughts. 

Let no thought pass without being examined.

Memorize the feeling each thought produces.  Remember how the thought feels.

Utilize all tools to rethink your mind.

Create a core that is untouchable by external influences.  The core is still liquid but can only be changed by self under full sobriety.  Re-examine this core very often.

Practice non-thinking.  Put up mental guards that gently turn away all thoughts and won't allow them to animate.  Ensure no thoughts animate beyond the original thought.  Simply be aware that those thoughts were present and then go back to the no-thought awareness.

Expand the no-thought awareness with new thought forms.  These new thought forms can be added to the core temporarily, then put up the guards and you can test the concept as part of your non-thinking awareness.

Or if you aren't hip on the term 'non-thinking' then think of it as 4d thinking or 4d awareness.  Thinking from the energy body.  An expanded awareness caused by ever-expanding non-3d-thinking.

Think not what your thoughts can do for you but think what your thoughts can do for others.

I stop thinking, therefore I Am.

But there ARE natural gaps in thinking that can be expanded with questioning, (doubt as a tool) and "awareing"

If someone interprets the encouragement to discover *directly*
what is here besides the brain and it's conditioned contents
it's not meant to be understood as a voiding of the thought process
but to include silence or Self reflection in the process as well!

thought can always be questioned
and perhaps that is what we are trying to do.
no one excluded here that i see.

if you are here it is for a reason.
To look, reason, contemplate, digest and respond to each other in a living way.
If there seems to be nay-sayers and negativity (who me?)
it is just us silly conditioned humans probably
the dogmatic close-down is only temporary while the questioning is
unavoidable and persistent.

Words have a way of betraying me/us
as well as thinking
and the self doubt seems to arise regardless of what we think or say or believe. It is natural and good. openness to wondering

what cannot survive analysis and doubt
we can always try to live without
if we are wrong we will find out.
openness to ideas and questions is what this forum is about
so it's all good

cheers

Hello,

I'm not about to leave so fast.

It will take much more bad comments (democracy) to convince me I'm not wanted here.

Best,

Druid

Well, I like your posts too.

Bye, Pictus

“In this edition we have added a MOST important analysis of the current and historical UFO scene. We unveil the original Majestic 12 group and its founder and we discuss the group that took the power away from them recently. Even if you cannot obtain a copy of this important addition, hear our warning regarding the whole alien landing issue...

As part of this discussion, a unique, scientific approach to the truth of the "Face on Mars" issue is given. A more plausible and practical explanation for the event (sans alien culture) and technology is developed. Many people seem to be entranced by the popular hypothesis that the face is a sign of an ancient, technologically advanced, Martian civilization which even pre-dated mankind itself. This edition warns of the use of this whole "face on Mars" farce as a softening item for the public announcement of alien cultures here on earth in our immediate future.

Soon, two major groupings of aliens are going to be identified and exposed to the public - openly. One will be the 'bad' guys or lizards or whatever. The other will be the 'good' guys and will probably be handsome by human standards. BOTH of these groupings will be part of a major deception to the people of Earth. The wise will know them by their actions but the wisest will be aware of their deception before they even arrive.

There will be a true Messiah who will eventually return to Earth and defeat these imposters according to the Bible. We remind the reader that the only sure way to finish on the good side is to make your commitment to GOD through your personal Doorway to GOD, through Jesus of Nazereth - THE Messiah.”

(I agree, but… What if the Antichrist makes everyone believe he is Jesus-Christ himself, as he promised he would come back? I believe that the antichrist – microcosmic incarnation of Ahriman as a parallel with his macrocosmic incarnation in computers-banking-worldshadowgovernment-aliens – will try to seduce us into believing that he is Christ (all religions are witing for his comeback, just like American Indians though conquistadors were their gods coming back. New age alien sectarians are waiting for the retunr of their makers, our 'real creators and ancestors'. Good marketing trick!).

Nicolaas de Jong said that he saw Ahriman in Al Gore, but now he thinks Ahriman left him because he was surprised by his failure to become president. Looking at his ‘knightly’ quest for environment and against global warming, I believe he is one of the agents that take people and scare them with earth catastrophes (environment or big comets, whatever) the create an army of followers. Aliens will make us believe that only them can save us from ourselves and environmental carnage (earth’s death). This is missing the point that Man must spiritualize the Earth (elementals and devas included), as Christ began when he united himself with earth on the Golgotha event.

Druid

This is 'just a detail', but it is, nevertheless, the truth.

By the way, if there's only one article, among those I recommended, that you want to read, I strongly recommend Nicolaas de Jong and Patrick Steensma's articles on ufos from a spiritual scientific point of view (I gave their references in earlier messages). It is a goldmine to me. By the way, I discussed with Nicolaas De Jong and I believe he will answer your questions as he answered mine, if you ask him.

Again...
However 'right' the insights of clairvoyants and occultists may be, one must use always his own thinking faculties and must never rely on autority (or any author).

Best,

Druid

I'm not about to leave so fast.

It will take much more bad comments (democracy) to convince me I'm not wanted here.

Best,

Druid

Did I rightly understand what you mean Starcat? You kinda scared me with what you said. Me, an hyperdimensional menace? I wish I could be sometimes! LOL ......I don't know why, but I'm chased away from all forums: cassiopaea, then someone in montalk... This looks to me like there's something wrong in the picture. Perhaps i'm not talking to the right people.....(Sorry me if this 'division attempt didn't point at me, I am so used to be attacked that I can think the attack is destined to me instead of others. )

I look forward on getting other comments when others will have finished to read what I sent.

Don't take Starcat's comments...........one person out of over 1,000 registered NR users!....as being indicative that you're somehow getting "chased off" from NR.   No one person should ever have that kind of influence over us.  Seriously.  Especially a complete stranger over the internet.  So seriously, come on now.   So far your posts seem fine to me.  Don't take one exchange with one stranger to such heart.  It's not that important.  Honestly.  There are plenty of other people to interact with here at NR, and if you don't mesh well with one, you have 1000 others to chose from. 

End of pep talk!

Talking about the eight sphere being the eighth sphere and not the moon is expressing dissent towards those who claim that the moon is in itself the eighth sphere. I elaborate on this enough not to repeat myself. Is it an attempt at division? Doesn't tha kind of thinking remind you of communism, totalitarism, where freethinking is a crime against the unity of the nation?

I'm disappointed.

Did I rightly understand what you mean Starcat? You kinda scared me with what you said. Me, an hyperdimensional menace? I wish I could be sometimes! LOL Well, everybody has implications with hyperdimentional realities, otherwise we wouldn't have a soul and a spiritual ego. Talking about OP, I can assure you I am not one, even though I can't prove it. One may only feel that I'm a decent person. Also, I speak French actually so my English is not perfect as you may have already noticed.

I don't know why, but I'm chased away from all forums: cassiopaea, then someone in montalk... This looks to me like there's something wrong in the picture. Perhaps i'm not talking to the right people. 

I think it may have to do with ideological wars. I hope not to create ideological wars, I'M just pointing to the findings of my research, which are more based on Steiner than on anyone else. Then comes montalk and cassiopaea, event though they kicked me out of their forum for  don't know what reason. Take what I sent anyway you want, but I already signified what were my motivations in sending these textes.

(Sorry me if this 'division attempt didn't point at me, I am so used to be attacked that I can think the attack is destined to me instead of others. )

I look forward on getting other comments when others will have finished to read what I sent.

Best,

Druid