"Players maneuver (or try to maneuver) Gibson's Lexus into the path of tequila bottles, which get Mel more and more loaded, which in turn makes the car harder and harder to control. Standing in the way are stern-looking sheriffs, and running into five of the lawmen -- which splatters the poor smokey all over the road -- ends the game. Further complicating the path from A to B is a rabbi standing on the side of the road chucking Stars of David at the Lexus, all to the tune of "Hava Nagila." (Of course, for the record, Gibson didn't hit any sherriffs that or any other night and as far as we know there were no roadside rabbis present either.)"

http://www.gsn.com/games/game_lobby.php?link_id=G402

I'm sorry, I had to post it, it's just too funny.  And if you're politically correct, then don't click, that's all I can say. 

Bwahahaahhaaha, tree!  That's even worse than "sugar tits"!  Hilarious!  I'll have to remember to rib ya about that every now and then, he he.

Im sure you will!!  : D

I do doubt certain aspects of the official story.

I doubt huge chunks of history, concerning things far beyond Israel's origins.

That is not however, the same as denial.

If saying that lands me in a German prison, well, it'll be a change of scenery.

No hard feelings on my end feedbaxlow, I hope that is mutual.

"There are many who believe the Holocaust was staged, or contrived to forever give Israel and Jewry license
to claim victimhood" etc etc

Wasn't the best way to start a credible argument
's all i'm sayin'...
yes a bit emotional
but in this case you are taking a "predictable" and dangerous line
when you introduce it like that...
to reprise that... is put yourself in poor company to say the least

"you didn't deny holocaust" but you did mention that,
so it sounds like you might doubt it?
Let's not to carried away in semantics.

I'm am not arguing against your ultimate point, in fact i probably agree with you to some extent. so i would like to see you avoid the pitfalls of that intro, that's all.

perhaps the other thing is
it is subtle... what can suggested with out really saying it out loud.
and we need to keep on our toes while expressing
the obvious to some extent.

If you take a good look at what AIPAC, the IDF, ADL and UN have done over the years, you will see a disturbing trend.

As far as the real reasons and real players responsible for the genocide, this may have begun as Hitler's and a few others' idea, but ultimately turned into an opportunity for Jewish hierarchy to give themselves a huge future advantage in sacrifiing some of "their own" to re-establish the state of Israel.

Believe what you will, there is much evidence to support the possibility.

Racism does not come into play with what I am saying, not at all. 

If anything, the govt's and people in power will project their own racist beliefs onto he common people as a diversionary tactic, using a nation's patriotic types to instill this behavior.

I'm not fallin' for it.                        J

It's subtle and everyone has a right to there opinions but what i meant is if we want peace we have to stop here" meaning in ourselves" sorry if sounding like i was pointing fingers...that was unintended, poorly stated. sorry.
Was only saying if we want to live with out more violence being perpetuated we have to take responsibilty right here in our own thoughts and words and avoid the old us and them thing...
peace... oh and
Ps Thanks for the reverse lecture...haha
i was not so emotional as i feel your response is?
was just perhaps a little too jumpy to nip that drift and whine factor again.

this isn't about jews... for or against...
the population of Isreal is not responsible (or any country)  for "this" any more than "americans" are for responsible for what's going on in Iraq.

Nobody said they were.  For me, when I said "Israel" I was referring to the government.  Not the people.   

Why "must" it stop?  If somebody has those feelings, then they have a right to those feelings, whether we personally agree with them or not.  Who are you, or anybody, to tell somebody that they "must" feel otherwise?   Playing devil's advocate here, but it's a valid point.  As somebody on the 'net noted, slight paraphrase, Mel didn't say that the Jews should be lined in front of the firing squad, or that he hated Jews.  He said "they're responsible for all the wars in the world."  Whether they are or not is irrelevant....but either way, somehow that type of comment is now considered "racism."  Interesting.   ! 

Heightened emotional, illogical fallacy. 

By my saying that Mel...and everybody....has a right to their opinions, how is that promoting the idea of "ethnic cleansing" ?   

And why is it that in almost any discussion about free speech/a person's right to their (racial) opinion somebody always steps forward and makes this fallacious conclusion?  That somehow pro-free speech people are advocating "ethnic cleansing everywhere" ?  It's so boringly predictable I must say. 

You know, over the years I've encountered rhetoric that was anti-white people, anti-female, anti-American, anti-straight, and so on.  And as someone who can be categorized by 3rd density labeling standards as a straight white American female I can say that I didn't get offended, or even give it another thought.  I don't care if people feel that way.  It doesn't matter to me.  They're entitled to look down on women if they want, to hate Americans, to think white people are Satan incarnate, or whatever their opinion is.  It's their deal.   And nor did I jump to the fallacious conclusion that because they feel that way they must somehow be advocating the complete genocide of women/white people/Americans/etc.   

Who exactly are you referring to with the command to "don't start" ?   Nobody here even mentioned holocaust denial.  You're putting words in people's mouths - another illogical, heightened emotions based fallacy - and are already imagining a whole fight debate scenario that isn't even happening.  Sounds to me like you've duked it out before either in person or over the 'net about topics like that, and are bringing that here......even though it hasn't been mentioned.   

A major tip for better, smoother message board discussions?   Stick to what's actually been said....not the imagined fight scenario going on in your mind, whereby you're already thinking ahead to what you - mistakenly assume - the other person is thinking, or about to write.   You don't want to accuse people of things they haven't even said, or put words in their mouth.   If you're trying to make a point and "be right" then that's the surest way to automatically be wrong.  !

(I have to add that I'd actually wondered how long it would take for this thread spin off into this, and who was going to be the one to post it.    Again, it's so predictable, it was a matter of "when" not "if"....)

I realize we have been muzzled and propagandized, but that's no excuse...racism must stop here!
or you are supporting ethnic cleansing everywhere...
and don't start with that "The holocast was bogus" B.S. ...pulleeeaze...
you'd think somebody's reading "The News of the World" and believing it!

Mel has a bit of a "Saddam" look about him in that first pic lol 

Indeed!

In fact, I just noticed a website called "Saddam Hussein Looks like Mel Gibson."  Here's their pic:

!

and instead, remember Mel when he was having better days!

Oh Mel, Mel, Mel...what happened??

haha 

btw, I'm just kidding.  I've never been a Mel Gibson fan.  Haven't even seen Mad Max (or Lethal Weapon, or most of his movies for that matter).    Oh well.