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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Musical ruts]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I was under the impression that the reason the Powers That Be push shallow commercial music and Rap is because vibrant music has the power to awaken the elevated emotions of man/woman-kind. In the same way eating fine french cuisine has the power to deeply satisfy in a way that a Big Mac with fries can&#039;t. It&#039;s part of the &#039;Make-us-feel-less-than-multidimension-infinite-beings&#039; agenda.</p><p>Another reason bland music is pushed is create a commodity. </p><p>If the public can be enticed to accept any pretty 16 year old girl or no-talent rapper then the record companies don&#039;t have to pay much. The musicians are interchangable.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[google]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-08-04T04:17:39Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Musical ruts]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>lyra wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I don&#039;t even listen to the radio anymore.&nbsp; !&nbsp; &nbsp;Back in Florida I worked in this office and had a cubicle mate who always had her radio set to the same light and easy station, eight hours a day, five days a week.&nbsp; &nbsp;Not only did they endlessly rotate the same playlist, but <strong>they played the songs in the same order.</strong></p></blockquote></div><p>LoL.&nbsp; That must have been fun.</p><p>We had a station here in Sudbury, called Z103, that played popular music and nothing else - so somehow the people complained because they only played popular music (and we don&#039;t have many stations here) so they changed the station to &quot;Big Daddy&quot; and their catch phrase was, if I remember correctly &quot;playing anything&quot;.&nbsp; But of course like all radio stations, they weren&#039;t playing &quot;anything&quot;, but the same playlist, over and over again.&nbsp; So basically the station changed its name,&nbsp; and playlist.&nbsp; Thats it.&nbsp; Instead of rap/hiphop and the occasional rock song, it was old rock song/new rock song/old song.&nbsp; I remember I would always turn off the radio at work, to see what would happen, and it would only be about 5minutes until someone turned it back on.</p><p>I even talked to someone there about it, and asked him &quot;Why do you listen to the radio all the time?&quot; and he said &quot;Because its comfortable&quot;.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Natural Mystic]]></name>
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			<updated>2006-08-02T11:57:27Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Musical ruts]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t even listen to the radio anymore.&nbsp; !&nbsp; &nbsp;Back in Florida I worked in this office and had a cubicle mate who always had her radio set to the same light and easy station, eight hours a day, five days a week.&nbsp; &nbsp;Not only did they endlessly rotate the same playlist, but <strong>they played the songs in the same order.</strong> Talk about maddening.&nbsp; &nbsp;This chick didn&#039;t mind though.&nbsp; Beige walls, fluorescent lighting, and the same crappy easy listening songs, in the same near exact order, 40 hours a week.&nbsp; &nbsp;Week in and week out.&nbsp; &nbsp;It was like being in hell.&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>The same repetitious music serves a variety of purposes.&nbsp; Comfort and familiarity, for starters.&nbsp; &nbsp;And interestingly enough, the coworker in question grew up in a very unstable environment with a mom who was basically mentally ill, to where her basic needs weren&#039;t always being provided for.&nbsp; So there was my 20-something coworker, with her comforting pattern of repetitious music always going in the background providing something familiar and secure...and her McDonald&#039;s Happy Meal toys all lined up on her desk and on top of her computer monitor, watching Saturday morning cartoons, and so on.&nbsp; So sometimes &quot;ritual rut&quot; can provide a person with something secure, especially those who are psychologically wounded.&nbsp; Other times people aren&#039;t even consciously aware that they&#039;re listening to the same old music every day!&nbsp; Just a lack of alertness going on.&nbsp; The same thing that causes them to not notice certain things about this reality causes them to not even notice things about themselves and their immediate surroundings.&nbsp; &nbsp;Sometimes people seem to be stuck in a certain time period.&nbsp; If their heydey was the 70&#039;s, 80&#039;s, 90&#039;s, then they&#039;ll often be drawn to that music.&nbsp; Still others adapt an &quot;old fogey&quot; mindset, a concept related to the &quot;heydey&quot; idea.&nbsp; They think new music sucks and revel in the glory years of their own generation&#039;s music, resisting the change of time.</p><p>Admittedly, I don&#039;t listen to the radio and don&#039;t care for pretty much anything going on music-wise right now, so I&#039;m one of those &quot;rut&quot; people you could say, bordering on the &quot;old fogey&quot; mindset.&nbsp; haha&nbsp; Recently though I came across new Depeche Mode and Green Day songs that I REALLY liked, and which jumped out at me.&nbsp; (&quot;Precious&quot; and &quot;Boulevard of Broken Dreams,&quot; respectively.)&nbsp; But the only reason I even came to discover them was by sheer chance.....in somebody else&#039;s car who had their radio on!&nbsp; <img src="https://forum.noblerealms.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" />&nbsp; &nbsp;So I know not all new music sucks.&nbsp; But....what&#039;s worth noting is that it seems the music industry itself is in a rut.&nbsp; &nbsp;There really isn&#039;t anything new going on in terms of music *style.*&nbsp; Using the aforementioned songs that I liked as an example:&nbsp; &nbsp;&quot;Precious&quot; sounds like Depeche Mode at it&#039;s early 90&#039;s best.&nbsp; New song, but using their same old familiar style.&nbsp; &quot;Boulevard of Broken Dreams&quot; to me has elements of Oasis in it.&nbsp; It&#039;s a relatively new song, but recycling an already used sound.&nbsp; &nbsp;So neither song is &quot;new&quot; or &quot;innovative,&quot; bringing some previously unheard sound to the masses.&nbsp; It&#039;s just the same old, same old, rearranged in a different way.&nbsp; </p><p>Anyway, just some ideas.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-08-02T09:00:55Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Musical ruts]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>You guys have more tolerance than me. I can get into a musical rut with just one song if the same melody plays over and over and over throughout the whole thing, even worse if there is no melody to it either. </p><p>But yeah, repetition on the radio does cater to people finding comfort in ritual, familiarity, and sentimentality...but on the downside it puts them into a braindead timewarp. Not just with music, but other things like lifestyle, fashion, anecdotes, etc... Seems like once the personality cements, it stays frozen for the majority. And corporations have definitely capitalized on this addiction to familiarity or nostalgia. Then again, if the world stays normal and I live to be forty I&#039;ll probably still wear wide leg jeans and listen to the same old music and thus be stuck in my own timewarp, but probably whistling tunes no one&#039;s heard of...</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-08-02T08:39:14Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Musical ruts]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I was having similar thoughts about this exact thing just a few days ago.</p><p>I listen mostly to a few varieties of electronic dance music, mostly psytrance (psychedelic trance) and drum&#039;n&#039;bass.&nbsp; I find a good portion of it to be *extremely* spiritually uplifting.&nbsp; But you never hear anything like it on the radio here, nothing even close.&nbsp; So much so that very often when someone&#039;s riding in the car with me for the first time (like a coworker who I&#039;m giving a lift home or whatever) they not only don&#039;t recognize the particular artist or songs I&#039;m playing, they don&#039;t even remotely recognize the *genre*.&nbsp; Granted, it&#039;s somewhat &quot;niche&quot; stuff, but it&#039;s not so removed that it couldn&#039;t feasibly be played on the radio late nights on the weekend or something at least.&nbsp; But it&#039;s not.</p><p>And what&#039;s so interesting to me is that occasionally I&#039;ll get in a discussion with someone about music and they&#039;ll make a remark like &quot;all the songs on the radio are the same nowadays, they&#039;ve been playing the same bullshit for years; nobody&#039;s making any really &#039;new&#039; music anymore.&nbsp; In previous decades there&#039;s always been some major musical innovation, something that totally changes the playing field; why don&#039;t we have that anymore?&quot;&nbsp; And then I respond by mentioning the kind of music I listen to (and note that it&#039;s just one example; there are many other genres out there), to make it very clear &quot;there most certainly *is* innovation going on, with people producing sounds unlike anything you&#039;ve ever heard before... but this innovative music doesn&#039;t make you want to make more money or buy more crap, so advertisers don&#039;t gain anything from it, so you probably won&#039;t ever hear it on the radio in this country.&quot;</p><p>It usually brings both points home... one, that they&#039;re missing out on some really interesting music (even if it turns out not to be their exact taste, it at least points out that new stuff is happening and they weren&#039;t being made aware of it), and two, that the choice of songs being played on the radio has nothing to do with playing good music, and everything to do with making money.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-08-02T07:49:45Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>During my last job, 9/10 times that I went to work the SAME station would be on, playing the same songs, over and over and over and over and over again.&nbsp; </p><p>It&#039;s like you&#039;ll keep hearing these popular songs until you end up knowing the lyrics.&nbsp; For example, I haven&#039;t listened to the radio in 2 months but I bet I could remember a song or two.&nbsp; Aha!&nbsp; That one song be Gwen Stephanie and Eve &quot;If I was a rich girl, I&#039;d have all the money in the world&quot; which when you think of it, doesn&#039;t really make sense.&nbsp; And then that B.A.N.A.N.A song.&nbsp; But then again, if people enjoy it, good for them.</p><p>It makes me appreciate the bands that I listen to a lot more though.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-08-02T04:40:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Musical ruts]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Today i was pondering about wether there was a hidden reason for the radio to play the same comercialised songs over and over again for years and years.</p><p>Perhaps replaying the same song might keep the masses in a frozen spiritual rut.</p><p>Everyone i know that is spiritualy dead listens to Commercialised music\radio. </p><p>I don&#039;t listen to the radio but i am always surrounded by zombies who do and they are all whistling that same f*cking tune. It reminds me of that movie &quot;The Wizard of Oz&quot; when all the monkeys are singing that same song while marching into the wicked witches castle. Yoeey Yo Yoooo oh! Yoeey yo yoo 0oh!</p><p>Music plays a vital role in everyday life so maybe somehow the evil bastards are using comercialised music to keep people mentally dead.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2006-08-02T04:21:11Z</updated>
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